metroid prime 3 trilogy should contain online multiplayer, who agrees with me?

[QUOTE="ANewGoldenAge"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Its not a FPS.

Its like me asking for the next zelda to have 32 player death match with bow and arrows.

Rocky32189

Metroid prime is a first person shooter. How is it not?

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]I'd rather devs not waste any more time with a compilation of old games.Jaysonguy

I agree with this statement

I agree with this statement.

this great Wii online FPS you're craving is coming out June 23rd. I mean 13 modes, new and old types, Wii Speak, original IP wii built from ground up yet we're all ignoring it.

It could work, but these are cheap cash ins for the most part it seems, i''ll pick up the trilogy as i haven't finished MP and haven't played MP2 but beat MP3.

I wish it does, but its confirmed in IGN that it doesn't. My, my, we sure do have people who don't socialise (the ones who think that its a bad idea to add multiplayer for metroid)

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"] And here's the best part. If Nintendo does include multiplayer in a Metroid game you do not have to play it and stick with your "it's a single player experience" while others enjoy it. clicketyclick

Both sound like pretty valid arguments to me.

So that's the excuse for not making online? There's a perfectly good opportunity for Nintendo to make some online, people have been complaining about the need for better online offered by Nintendo, now that this possibility comes up it's a stupid idea?

Pyro767

You want to know what Metroid would be like with Multiplayer, go play Hunters - yeah, it was a lovely game.

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]

So that's the excuse for not making online? There's a perfectly good opportunity for Nintendo to make some online, people have been complaining about the need for better online offered by Nintendo, now that this possibility comes up it's a stupid idea?

Haziqonfire

You want to know what Metroid would be like with Multiplayer, go play Hunters - yeah, it was a lovely game.

no

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]

[QUOTE="ANewGoldenAge"]

Metroid prime is a first person shooter. How is it not?

Pyro767

Thats why it got great scores. No need for acting emo about the whole multiplayer feature. You're not gonna die if it gets multiplayer.Pices

it was one of the lowest reviewed Metroid games to come out.

It wasn't amazing. The only reason it scored well because yes, multiplayer was done well - but the "metroid" part of the game didn't exist.

Yes, that is an excuse because the game is not suited for multiplayer. Have you ever played the multi in Metroid Prime 2? It was awful. If they add online to a Metroid game they will be taking away from it's strengths (single player) to enhance something that is terrible. Some games should remain single player only and Metroid is one of them.Rocky32189

it was one of the lowest reviewed Metroid games to come out.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]it was one of the lowest reviewed Metroid games to come out.clicketyclick

It was well done. Still doesn't mean I liked it, it felt out of place in the Metroid universe.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]it was one of the lowest reviewed Metroid games to come out.Haziqonfire

It was well done. Still doesn't mean I liked it, it felt out of place in the Metroid universe.

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"] It's not a traditional FPS. It's primarily an adventure game.

Rocky32189

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"] That doesn't mean anything! :lol: I can say, it's the 5th-best-rated Metroid game, and the 3rd best had local multiplayer that could easily be put online. Since you admit that the multiplayer of Hunters was "done well", here's an idea that might make your head asplode: try imagining Hunters multiplayer - bear with me - attached to Corruption's single-player. :oclicketyclick

It was well done. Still doesn't mean I liked it, it felt out of place in the Metroid universe.

I don't think MP3 should be online. I think the development team should focus mainly on an actual storyline that's good and try and work on controls, camera, graphics, etc to make an awesome game. Metroid wouldn't make a very good online FPS in my opinion.

"It's something we talked about early on, but we only have so many resources. We opted to devote those resources to making a better single-player experience." - Michael Kelbeugh

An interview with this man in GamePro. Online play, while fun in it's own right, seems to interfere with a lot of solo stuff and myself and many others hate that. There are a lot of people who play single player and would rather see it kept that way. Some games are made for online, such as Halo, Call of Duty, and such, but Metroid shouldn't be one of those.

Developers don't have unlimited resources. Time spent on multiplayer is time not being dedicated to what has made Metroid a great franchise for the past 20 years, single player.Rocky32189

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It was well done. Still doesn't mean I liked it, it felt out of place in the Metroid universe.

Rocky32189

Quantum of Solace is an awesome online FPS for Wii!!!

Its just too bad, the wii doesnt have an outstanding online FPS game like killzone or gears, and i think metroid is their only chance to do that, oh well.scratch-o-hey

No. Metroid is a single player adventure game. If you want an online FPS buy Call of Duty or wait for the Conduit.Rocky32189

I'd rather devs not waste any more time with a compilation of old games.AlexSays

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It was well done. Still doesn't mean I liked it, it felt out of place in the Metroid universe.

Rocky32189

Oh God, please, no. Metroid Prime was a breath of fresh air. The entire reason why I liked it was because it was so diametrically opposed to most other FPSes. The entire charm of the whole thing was the loneliness, the exploration, the fact that it wasn't just Samus mowing down hordes of aliens. Metroid Prime is Metroid Prime-caliber; it does not need to be (game X)-caliber.

The sooner the craze ends of "EVERY GAME MUST HAVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER", the better.

Oh God, please, no. Metroid Prime was a breath of fresh air. The entire reason why I liked it was because it was so diametrically opposed to most other FPSes. The entire charm of the whole thing was the loneliness, the exploration, the fact that it wasn't just Samus mowing down hordes of aliens. Metroid Prime is Metroid Prime-caliber; it does not need to be (game X)-caliber.

The sooner the craze ends of "EVERY GAME MUST HAVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER", the better.

GabuEx

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]

It wouldn't.

But then again not every game needs a multiplayer mode. BioShock and Prime are two examples of games that don't really need any.

The way most games are headed its like multiplayer is a must and single player games don't seem to matter anymore - as long as they have a multiplayer mode in them, then and only then people are satisfied.

I agree with you but I realize that it most likely isn't going to happen (Though I would buy it in a heartbeat if it did).

Okay, but what if, hypothetically, every new Metroid game that came out, regardless of it's genre (2D, Pinball, FPS, FPA, etc), had a Hunters style multiplayer mode tacked on to it? Just tacked on. Would that ruin the single player experience for you?ZumaJones07

Here's the thing: Metroid has always been about the atmosphere, the exploration,about seeing alien worlds through the eyes of Samus. The combat is purposely over quick (save for boss fights), because blasting the crap out of bad guys is not the driving source of entertainment from the game. The very core essence of Metroid is diametrically opposed from the combat-centric experience inherent in any multiplayer deathmatch mode, which is just about killing all the other guys, without any puzzle-solving, without any atmosphere, without anything really Metroid.

The multiplayer in Metroid Prime 2 felt like an afterthought, and that to me was a good thing, because it meant that the multiplayer was made to fit Metroid, not the other way around. To do the other way around gets you a game like Hunters, that is practically a Metroid game in name only, with little resemblance to what makes Metroid what it is. And that is precisely what I worry so much about: that if so many people clamor after a Metroid game with multiplayer that it is decided to make a Metroid game in which the multiplayer is actually a big consideration that affects other design decisions in the game, then I see no way that that would not detract from the ultimate Metroid essence contained within the game.

Sure, you could just tack on a multiplayer mode that's a total afterthought like in Metroid Prime 2 and have that, but why? Why Metroid? There are so many other games that offer multiplayer deathmatch and other multiplayer modes - why not play them if multiplayer is what you're after? Why not just leave Metroid alone and keep multiplayer in games built and designed to accomodate more integrated multiplayer? Why must every single game have multiplayer?

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]Okay, but what if, hypothetically, every new Metroid game that came out, regardless of it's genre (2D, Pinball, FPS, FPA, etc), had a Hunters style multiplayer mode tacked on to it? Just tacked on. Would that ruin the single player experience for you?GabuEx

Here's the thing: Metroid has always been about the atmosphere, the exploration,about seeing alien worlds through the eyes of Samus. The combat is purposely over quick (save for boss fights), because blasting the crap out of bad guys is not the driving source of entertainment from the game. The very core essence of Metroid is diametrically opposed from the combat-centric experience inherent in any multiplayer deathmatch mode, which is just about killing all the other guys, without any puzzle-solving, without any atmosphere, without anything really Metroid.

The multiplayer in Metroid Prime 2 felt like an afterthought, and that to me was a good thing, because it meant that the multiplayer was made to fit Metroid, not the other way around. To do the other way around gets you a game like Hunters, that is practically a Metroid game in name only, with little resemblance to what makes Metroid what it is. And that is precisely what I worry so much about: that if so many people clamor after a Metroid game with multiplayer that it is decided to make a Metroid game in which the multiplayer is actually a big consideration that affects other design decisions in the game, then I see no way that that would not detract from the ultimate Metroid essence contained within the game.

Sure, you could just tack on a multiplayer mode that's a total afterthought like in Metroid Prime 2 and have that, but why? Why Metroid? There are so many other games that offer multiplayer deathmatch and other multiplayer modes - why not play them if multiplayer is what you're after? Why not just leave Metroid alone and keep multiplayer in games built and designed to accomodate more integrated multiplayer? Why must every single game have multiplayer?

You are right when you say that atmosphere is the driving source, but I find that I also enjoy myself when blasting through hordes of pirates in the combat challenges. And if there is multiplayer added and you don't like it, just ignore it, it's not like the game will go "YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED ONLINE IN A WEEK. BEFORE YOU PLAY SINGLE PLAYER AGAIN, PLEASE PLAY -10- ONLINE MATCHES. YOU WILL THEN UNLOCK SINGLE PLAYER MODE." And like I have said, Metroid Prime Trilogy will require almost no work on the single player mode, it's just rearranging control schemes and then slapping them together. If they love us, maybe they will do some graphical work. I mean MAYBE. Therefore, why not add in some multiplayer? You can't be in atmosphere mode all the time, sometimes a little competition is fun too. And the multiplayer CAN be separate from the single player, we don't have to have them intertwine like you suggest. And why would we put multiplayer on Metroid? Same reason we put it on Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Halo, Gears of War, Pokemon, most computer games, ect ect ect. It's because it's FUN. Like I've been saying: Multiplayer can be an OPTIONAL thing. Metroid is a good candidate for multiplayer, and I say that if I can have fun that way, have at. If single player is what you are after, why not go play something like Zelda, Mario, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy? Why must every single game be exactly how you want it to be?Pyro767

What I really, really don't want is for multiplayer to be a central enough consideration in a Metroid game such that choices are made that impact the single-player experience based on what would make multiplayer better. There are a million FPSes out there of which multiplayer is a big part. I don't want Metroid to become one of them because then it would fundamentally no longer be Metroid; it would be that much closer to just another FPS on the pile.

If people want to just have a multiplayer mode like the one in Metroid Prime 2 added, fine, be my guest, but I really don't see why someone would turn to Metroid of all games for multiplayer when there are so many other FPSesfor which multiplayer is a much larger and thus more integral consideration.

I don't see why it's so important... I mean these games are single player games, not multiplayer. Everything doesn't need multiplayer to be good.

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]You are right when you say that atmosphere is the driving source, but I find that I also enjoy myself when blasting through hordes of pirates in the combat challenges. And if there is multiplayer added and you don't like it, just ignore it, it's not like the game will go "YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED ONLINE IN A WEEK. BEFORE YOU PLAY SINGLE PLAYER AGAIN, PLEASE PLAY -10- ONLINE MATCHES. YOU WILL THEN UNLOCK SINGLE PLAYER MODE." And like I have said, Metroid Prime Trilogy will require almost no work on the single player mode, it's just rearranging control schemes and then slapping them together. If they love us, maybe they will do some graphical work. I mean MAYBE. Therefore, why not add in some multiplayer? You can't be in atmosphere mode all the time, sometimes a little competition is fun too. And the multiplayer CAN be separate from the single player, we don't have to have them intertwine like you suggest. And why would we put multiplayer on Metroid? Same reason we put it on Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Halo, Gears of War, Pokemon, most computer games, ect ect ect. It's because it's FUN. Like I've been saying: Multiplayer can be an OPTIONAL thing. Metroid is a good candidate for multiplayer, and I say that if I can have fun that way, have at. If single player is what you are after, why not go play something like Zelda, Mario, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy? Why must every single game be exactly how you want it to be?GabuEx

What I really, really don't want is for multiplayer to be a central enough consideration in a Metroid game such that choices are made that impact the single-player experience based on what would make multiplayer better. There are a million FPSes out there of which multiplayer is a big part. I don't want Metroid to become one of them because then it would fundamentally no longer be Metroid; it would be that much closer to just another FPS on the pile.

If people want to just have a multiplayer mode like the one in Metroid Prime 2 added, fine, be my guest, but I really don't see why someone would turn to Metroid of all games for multiplayer when there are so many other FPSesfor which multiplayer is a much larger and thus more integral consideration.

OK online for this game would have been awesome but its not like this isnt a deal and a half. Not to mention they also added to rewards to this game so u can unlock a bunch of new and interesting extras. As for Metroid not belonging online thats completely absurd, think about it like this. A new Metroid game with online co-op. With Hunters and Corruption they introduced many other characters, it can be done. Now as for a death match I dont know about that one. I guess it all depends on how you view Metroid, for me I would love it, others would hate it. As far as we have heard we wont be getting anymore FP Metroids so I think this thread is rather useless but oh well.

Well I never suggested that they base single player on multiplayer. In fact, I don't think that would be possible with this game, the single player is already established.Pyro767

I know, I'm talking more in terms of the general idea of Metroid with multiplayer, not specifically of adding multiplayer to Metroid Prime Trilogy.

What I'm really trying to get across is that things change and just because someone does not like it or does not think it will work is no excuse to explore other options. Multiplayer games are appearing more and more and people clamor for them because they can be fun. Super Mario 64 was a fine game on its own, but now there is a multiplayer mode on the DS version. New WiiWare games more often than not, feature a multiplayer mode in them. In my case as well as others, multiplayer modes make me come back for more. And believe me, I get what all of you are saying about Metroid's atmosphere and all that jazz, but Nintendo tried a multiplayer approach for two of the games and people liked it. If a mass majority of people like something it's wise to market to those people and not hold back just because it's different. Grand Theft Auto, Resident Evil, Mario, Zelda, and Animal Crossing among other games are all examples of games that started out solo and changed into something else for the better. All of these are usually top-notch games so what would make you think the Metroid franchise would fail? Because it would be like other FPS's? Maybe. But that's where experimentation comes in.ZumaJones07

All I am saying is what I said above: I do not want, under any circumstances, for there to be choices made that make multiplayer better in a Metroid game at the expense of single-player. Metroid's core appeal is the experience ofexplorationanddiscovery as Samus on an alien world, and that, to me, is an absolute #1top priority to be preserved at all costs.If a multiplayer mode can be added that does not in any way detract from the core single-player experience, then have at it; I have no problem with that at all.

If a multiplayer mode can be added that does not in any way detract from the core single-player experience, then have at it; I have no problem with that at all.GabuEx