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#1 Wintry_Flutist
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...is what Nintendo game will showcase it?

Nintendo will probably use a big franchise to guarantee huge MotionPlus launch sales. The WiiWheel had Mario Kart, and the WiiZapper got FRIGGIN ZELDA.

What's next?

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#2 Arc2012
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Punch Out!!! ?

But I'm hoping for Zelda.

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#3 Tuky06
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Punch Out!!! ?

But I'm hoping for Zelda.

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I can see that working, 1:1 swordplay wouyld be awesome, tho it could also work for the lightsaber in TFU.
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Ok, now I'm hoping that i get to create Captain Rainbow's rainbows in 1:1 motion.

Which is more important to gaming than 1:1 swordplay ever was.

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#5 Callous-Bstard
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Im guessing Wii Play 2 and perhaps Zelda. I could even see it being bundled with the new Tiger Woods, Star wars Clone wars games.

Nintendo will want to make this standard IMO....so I would hope the big 3rd parties are already working on titles for it.

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#6 lolag
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Zelda, cmon tell me when you guys got Tp you would be hoping to swing the remote like an actual sword. Nintendo is doing a very good job for its fanbase and its only the beginning
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#7 Arc2012
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Oh hey, I forgot about Wii music. It seems like it could be put to good use there. Though the game has been in production for about 2 years.

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#8 mario_brawler
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Wii Sports 2?
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#9 lolag
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Wii Sports 2?mario_brawler
Nintendo confirmed no Wii Sports 2. So might be something else
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#10 LINKloco
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It will probably be WiiMusic.=/
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#11 Wintry_Flutist
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It will probably be WiiMusic.=/LINKloco

Well, it's not like WiiMusic wouldn't be HUGELY improved with such accessory.

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If it is hard to show case it imaging how hard it will be to have anyone else care about it. Peripherals, unless packaged with the original console, are just fluff until next gen when it CAN be packaged in a console. Until then, no one should actually take them seriously.
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#13 m1k3m
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"]It will probably be WiiMusic.=/Wintry_Flutist

Well, it's not like WiiMusic wouldn't be HUGELY improved with such accessory.

Yeah, I don't really see how Wii Music could be thoroughly improved by using this.

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If it is hard to show case it imaging how hard it will be to have anyone else care about it. Peripherals, unless packaged with the original console, are just fluff until next gen when it CAN be packaged in a console. Until then, no one should actually take them seriously.raahsnavj

Say that again when the next Nintendo blockbuster requires it! :lol:

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#15 Wintry_Flutist
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="LINKloco"]It will probably be WiiMusic.=/m1k3m

Well, it's not like WiiMusic wouldn't be HUGELY improved with such accessory.

Yeah, I don't really see how Wii Music could be thoroughly improved by using this.

Well, in the last news (that aren't so new), they gave examples of Wiimote use, and I'm sure with more precision it will avoid a lot of disappointment.

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I'll think there's a good chance Retro's current project will be a showcase for this capability.
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I'll think there's a good chance Retro's current project will be a showcase for this capability.thriteenthmonke

Nice catch.

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#18 N-One
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It'll most likely come with Wii Music since all games in the Wii series comes with somthing. Wii Sports has the system, Wii Play has an extra Wii Remote, Wii Fit has the Wii Balance Board, & most likely Wii Music will have the Wii MotionPlus. Though they'll likely let more games use the Wii MotionPlus like Punch-Out Wii, Zelda Wii, Animal Crossing Wii, & Star Wars games on Wii (The Force Unleashed & Clone Wars). I also see games like Rock Revolution, The Conduit, Red Steel 2, Retro Studios' new game, some other Tennis games, & more use the Wii MotionPlus.
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[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]If it is hard to show case it imaging how hard it will be to have anyone else care about it. Peripherals, unless packaged with the original console, are just fluff until next gen when it CAN be packaged in a console. Until then, no one should actually take them seriously.Wintry_Flutist

Say that again when the next Nintendo blockbuster requires it! :lol:

In most cases having a hardware update like this thats almost manditory is questionable but this update is not. Its a great idea to imrpove the wiimote motion sensing but how will it be priced?20-30 bucks with a game is really the only fair thing but being as how they will probably now releeses large amounts of games that require the add on so they might just take advantage of us wii owners

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#20 webbut
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[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]If it is hard to show case it imaging how hard it will be to have anyone else care about it. Peripherals, unless packaged with the original console, are just fluff until next gen when it CAN be packaged in a console. Until then, no one should actually take them seriously.Wintry_Flutist

Say that again when the next Nintendo blockbuster requires it! :lol:

In most cases having a hardware update like this thats almost manditory is questionable but this update is not. Its a great idea to imrpove the wiimote motion sensing but how will it be priced?20-30 bucks with a game is really the only fair thing but being as how they will probably now releeses large amounts of games that require the add on so they might just take advantage of us wii owners

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#21 dragonball3900
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I hope Clone Wars comes packaged with it, or some other game that I want.
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#22 Wintry_Flutist
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Please people, get real:

There's a 0.001% chance the Star Wars games will support it. Those games started being produced way before this announcement, and in interviews it's clear the devs aren't aiming for 1:1. I don't think they will start remaking the games now.

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#23 chris3116
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Please people, get real:

There's a 0.001% chance the Star Wars game will support it. Those games started being produced way before this announcement, and in interviews it's clear the devs aren't aiming for 1:1. I don't think they will start remaking the games now.

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That's what I'm thinking. A 3rd Star Wars game (Force Unleashed and Clone Wars) will be announced before LucasArts will remake the game.

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#24 legend26
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"]It will probably be WiiMusic.=/Wintry_Flutist

Well, it's not like WiiMusic wouldn't be HUGELY improved with such accessory.

....im really scared nintendo will make wii music the main event in the show, just like wiifit last year...

my hopes are maybe be used with new zelda? someother thread here says maybe redsteel 2? disaster day of crisis?

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Can anyone explain to me what 1:1 means? if it's makes the controls more smoother and better than I'm paying for it, but It better be bundled with a good game.
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#26 slimdave21
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This reminds me of Nintendo's expansion pack for the Nintendo 64...

It's too bad they didn't just make the controllers perfect to begin with...

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Can anyone explain to me what 1:1 means? if it's makes the controls more smoother and better than I'm paying for it, but It better be bundled with a good game.Dymond7

We use 1:1 to say every Wiimote movement is actually accurately reproduced in game.

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#28 ineedmoney555
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devs have wanted to do 1;1 for a long time so i think this will really excite them
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I'm going to say that Nintendo will have at least two titles to showcase off the Motion Plus at E3, at least one casual and one hardcore. I think the titles that they will focus on will be ones that legitimately cannot be done with the current Wii Remote, I also think that there is a good chance that their showcase games for this device are ones that we have not seen yet. The game(s) they choose to bundle this with will have mass appeal and will probably be built entirely around advanced motion control mechanics, I also think it will be a game we haven't seen yet.
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#30 lancea34
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I'm betting Wii Music.
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#31 Wintry_Flutist
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I'm going to say that Nintendo will have at least two titles to showcase off the Motion Plus at E3, at least one casual and one hardcore. I think the titles that they will focus on will be ones that legitimately cannot be done with the current Wii Remote, I also think that there is a good chance that their showcase games for this device are ones that we have not seen yet. The game(s) they choose to bundle this with will have mass appeal and will probably be built entirely around advanced motion control mechanics, I also think it will be a game we haven't seen yet.thriteenthmonke

That would be perfect, but... Too good to be true.

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a friend said something interesting:

"since it will have more accuracy, we could get a full motion zelda, with no mapped buttons, real moves" that was basically what he said.

imagine... every move you make copied EXACTLY to links movements...

that makes the "new zelda" theory more possible... but still unprobable...

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#33 Wintry_Flutist
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a friend said something interesting:

"since it will have more accuracy, we could get a full motion zelda, with no mapped buttons, real moves" that was basically what he said.

imagine... every move you make copied EXACTLY to links movements...

that makes the "new zelda" theory more possible... but still unprobable...

BrunoBRS

Sorry, but he said something dumb. The MotionPlus can't do everything Link does (let's start listing: sword, shield, bow, roll, push, items, jump... no need for buttons? Yeah, right...) and it would be annoying to be making every movement through the game.

The new Zelda isn't a theory. It's something said by Miyamoto himself. Now whether it will use MotionPlus or not is different matter.

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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]I'm going to say that Nintendo will have at least two titles to showcase off the Motion Plus at E3, at least one casual and one hardcore. I think the titles that they will focus on will be ones that legitimately cannot be done with the current Wii Remote, I also think that there is a good chance that their showcase games for this device are ones that we have not seen yet. The game(s) they choose to bundle this with will have mass appeal and will probably be built entirely around advanced motion control mechanics, I also think it will be a game we haven't seen yet.Wintry_Flutist

That would be perfect, but... Too good to be true.

I think Nintendo is looking for huge attach rate for this, it's not something like the Wii Balance board, or the Wii Wheel which have very limited applications, it's a small, presumably cheap device that can be applied to a wide range of games. I'm assuming that Nintendo will have both a casual and hardcore game to showcase it with because they want to sell it (and the games that use it) to both those groups, and I feel that they did the same with the Wii launch, where IMO Wii sports was the casual showcase and MP3 was their hardcore showcase. The reason I believe they'll be showing new games with the device is because I don't really see anything right now that I believe can work as a proper showcase for the device.
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#35 danger_ranger95
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There could be two possibilties for them to showcase this off at E3 tomorrow.

Kid Icarus (core gamers)

Wii Music (everyone)

it would make sense...

ohh...and to all these other fools that think Nintendo would package this with a 3rd party game is ridiculous. It would never happen. 99.9% if not 100% of all their accessories have always been bundled with 1st party games.

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#36 Lord_Omikron666
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Being realistic, Wii Music is probably the most likely to show it off, I don't think if there's a Zelda Wii tomorrow it would be ready to show the 1:1 off.
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Being realistic, Wii Music is probably the most likely to show it off, I don't think if there's a Zelda Wii tomorrow it would be ready to show the 1:1 off.Lord_Omikron666

Anyway, If Zelda is announced, it will be a teaser video. So it's not like we'll know how it will support MotionPlus if it does.

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#38 kart_racer
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I hope they offer it like they did with the wii remote jackets or the replacement straps, but I doubt it. Although i also hope that the "Motion Plus" comes built in to the Wii remotes later on which I think is reasonable.
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#39 MagnuzGuerra
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They better show a good use for it, and better be cheap. My pocket already hurts just from knowing that there will be some good game that will require it (like Majora's Mask and N64 memory expansion).
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Kid Icarus?

Anyway, I don;t think that the attachment will be made mandatory for every game, because it'll peeve off everybody who wants *insert game that doesn;t come with Wiimotion plus here*, but doesn;t want to shell out the cash for the attachment, so unless nintendo packages it with every new game that releases for a time, there's no way. One can always hope though!...... right?

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I dont see myself ever needing the MotionPlus. I think the Wiimote is good enough the way it is.
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[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"]Being realistic, Wii Music is probably the most likely to show it off, I don't think if there's a Zelda Wii tomorrow it would be ready to show the 1:1 off.Wintry_Flutist

Anyway, If Zelda is announced, it will be a teaser video. So it's not like we'll know how it will support MotionPlus if it does.


That's what I'm expecting, a teaser, nothing more and nothing less. I guess that will at least settle all the rumor hype and end up making even more hype though.
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Kid Icarus?

Churie

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Kid Icarus?

Anyway, I don;t think that the attachment will be made mandatory for every game, because it'll peeve off everybody who wants *insert game that doesn;t come with Wiimotion plus here*, but doesn;t want to shell out the cash for the attachment, so unless nintendo packages it with every new game that releases for a time, there's no way. One can always hope though!...... right?

Churie

Think of it like the N64 Expansion Pak.

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#45 Lord_Omikron666
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[QUOTE="Churie"]

Kid Icarus?

Anyway, I don;t think that the attachment will be made mandatory for every game, because it'll peeve off everybody who wants *insert game that doesn;t come with Wiimotion plus here*, but doesn;t want to shell out the cash for the attachment, so unless nintendo packages it with every new game that releases for a time, there's no way. One can always hope though!...... right?

Wintry_Flutist

Think of it like the N64 Expansion Pak.


DK64... Good times. DK platformer for the Wii with MotionPlus ;)
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Churie"]

Kid Icarus?

Anyway, I don;t think that the attachment will be made mandatory for every game, because it'll peeve off everybody who wants *insert game that doesn;t come with Wiimotion plus here*, but doesn;t want to shell out the cash for the attachment, so unless nintendo packages it with every new game that releases for a time, there's no way. One can always hope though!...... right?

Lord_Omikron666

Think of it like the N64 Expansion Pak.


DK64... Good times. DK platformer for the Wii with MotionPlus ;)

That's not what I meant, though... :P

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[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Churie"]

Kid Icarus?

Anyway, I don;t think that the attachment will be made mandatory for every game, because it'll peeve off everybody who wants *insert game that doesn;t come with Wiimotion plus here*, but doesn;t want to shell out the cash for the attachment, so unless nintendo packages it with every new game that releases for a time, there's no way. One can always hope though!...... right?

Wintry_Flutist

Think of it like the N64 Expansion Pak.


DK64... Good times. DK platformer for the Wii with MotionPlus ;)

That's not what I meant, though... :P


The N64 Expansion Pak used with DK64. A little on topic thought if there could be another DK platformer.
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[QUOTE="Churie"]

Kid Icarus?

Anyway, I don;t think that the attachment will be made mandatory for every game, because it'll peeve off everybody who wants *insert game that doesn;t come with Wiimotion plus here*, but doesn;t want to shell out the cash for the attachment, so unless nintendo packages it with every new game that releases for a time, there's no way. One can always hope though!...... right?

Wintry_Flutist

Think of it like the N64 Expansion Pak.

Im not sure if anyone is clear on this but isnt the MotionPlus improving the sensitivity of the controller thus making the tracking data thats send from the wiimote to the wii more acurate...not adding more information and features just making the current tracking info and features more acurate? cause thats what it seems like its doing to me but everyone else describes it like its adding a new feature thus needing new games to support it

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I've been saying all along, DK would fit perfectly on the Wii.

If they could pull the same effect with DK's (and the other Kongs') hair as with the Queen Bee in Galaxy...that would own. Plus, what other Ape can wear a tie?

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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Churie"]

Kid Icarus?

Anyway, I don;t think that the attachment will be made mandatory for every game, because it'll peeve off everybody who wants *insert game that doesn;t come with Wiimotion plus here*, but doesn;t want to shell out the cash for the attachment, so unless nintendo packages it with every new game that releases for a time, there's no way. One can always hope though!...... right?

webbut

Think of it like the N64 Expansion Pak.

Im not sure if anyone is clear on this but isnt the MotionPlus improving the sensitivity of the controller thus making the tracking data thats send from the wiimote to the wii more acurate...not adding more information and features just making the current tracking info and features more acurate? cause thats what it seems like its doing to me but everyone else describes it like its adding a new feature thus needing new games to support it

that's what I'm getting out of it. It's just improving what we already have basically.