New DS more or less confirmed, Pokemon is most likely launch title

Ok, so an all new Pokemon title was announced today. When I say a new Pookemon title, I don't mean a spin off like the God awful Mystery Dungeon or Ranger games- I mean a game in the main series, a true sequel to Diamond and Pearl. The press release was short, stating only a Fall 2010 release date for Japan, and stating there'd be all new Pokemon, and a new region in the game.

My question- if this game is indeed on the DS, then it surely CANNOT be compatible with the existing five DS games, because of it having new Pokemon? Meaning, it can at the most have limited interaction with the older games. Obviously, Nintendo is not dumb- this would curtail the newer games significantly, and would mean that completing the Pokedexes in this new game would be impossible.

What then, is this about? Most likely, this new game is slated for the new DS that is alleged to be in the works... and would be able to have complete interaction with the existing DS games via backwards compatibility, similar to thePal Park in Diamond and Pearl.

What does this mean, then? Is the new DS coming sooner than we expected? And surely, it means Pokemon is likely to be a launch title?

What doyou guys think? Is my reasoning sound, or is it just baseless speculation? Is a new DS indeed in the works? Would you want it if it was? And what about the new Pokemon games? Are you looking forward to them? Sound off!

SOURCE: New Main Pokemon Game Announced (IGN)

I think the DS is getting old, it is in its sixth year, we need a new handheld console to keep our appetites thirsty.

I think the DS is getting old, it is in its sixth year, we need a new handheld console to keep our appetites thirsty.

outworld222

it would be unfair to new DS owners.HerGuitar

Probably a new redesign or like they did with the GBC, a pokemon themed DS. A miracle can happen and it could be on the Wii (would be ideal time to come out on the console).

Probably a new redesign or like they did with the GBC, a pokemon themed DS. A miracle can happen and it could be on the Wii (would be ideal time to come out on the console).

Nintendo_Man

All we can do is wait and see. I kind of doubt there'll be a new DS by fall; typically there'll be leaks about new hardware and we haven't seen anything and all we've heard was the rumor of it using Nvidia's Tegra 2 chip (or whatever). I really hope a true DS successor comes out this fall... my DSfat is getting old and tired.

[QUOTE="HerGuitar"] it would be unfair to new DS owners.charizard1605

It'll probably have some DSi specific functionality.

Edit: Also, while I'm not going to knock the possibility of a DS2, Nintendo usually announces that they have a new piece of hardware in the works atleast a year before the "unveiling". So far the only thing we've seen are the Tegra rumours...which are at this point still rumors.

Edit2: Unless I missed something.

It'll probably have some DSi specific functionality.

Edit: Also, while I'm not going to knock the possibility of a DS2, Nintendo usually announces that they have a new piece of hardware in the works atleast a year before the "unveiling". So far the only thing we've seen are the Tegra rumours...which are at this point still rumors.

Edit2: Unless I missed something.

forgot_it

Yeah, Iwata confirmed it in an interview. But this doesn't bode well for an early DS2 release :(

i think "new pokemon = new system" is a pointless theory.BrunoBRS

Aye. Misleading topic is misleading...

its prob a dsi specific game.

All this yells at me is that I need to learn a new metagame in fall XP. Granted it'll be annoying to have to rebreed everything, as it seems to be hinting at a new gen, which usually means drastically different game mechanics, and it might not even have backwards compatibility to any degree with D/P (unlikely now IMO, since I'm pretty sure they realize that people enjoy backward compatibility). Personally, if this is true, I'm looking for some leaks so I can try and predict the metagame before it starts.Hegna1

i was thinking the exact same thing. it'll be fun to be there when the meta is first formed though. i didn't plat competitively this gen until 1 and 1/2 years after pearl was released, meaning everything was, for the most part, set it stone. everyone knew what did well, and what didn't.

assuming they don't change the IV, EV formula though, i would supect that alot of your (and my) current pokemon will be usable in the next gen (some more than others) so its not all bad news.

Well the DS is in its sixth year so there is clearly going to be a new handheld soon. Fall in Japan would mean an E3 showing and a spirng release here. Pokemon is the perfect game to launch a handheld with. I'm not a fan but whatever. Nintendo knows that to stay on top of the handheld market they need to introduce something new. Apple foolishly thinks there a threat and Sony is just messing around but Nintendo can't get lazy.

i wouldn't be shocked if it was DSi only and not a new DS,....

but if its this rumored Tegra 2 DS, than i don't think Pokemon is the best game to show off the hardware, but it is a good game to sell at launch

But that would be a Pokemon RPG once a year for 3 years in a row, i'm hoping it doesn't end up like COD. i like POkemon but i really don't want to see yearly installments, at least every 2-3 years

If this DS uses Tegra, i doubt they'd make a pokemon game that strayed far from the top down 3D view of D/P/P

i don't think Pokemon would be the first game i'd say i'd want to see out of Tegra 2's 800Mhz CPU and 200Mhz GPU (or is that Tegra APX2600?)

but yes it would sell and be a wise decision although i'd rather see a new Super Mario 3D platformer for the device, maybe a Sunshine Spinoff (and not remake!)

i don't think Pokemon would be the first game i'd say i'd want to see out of Tegra 2's 800Mhz CPU and 200Mhz GPU (or is that Tegra APX2600?)

but yes it would sell and be a wise decision although i'd rather see a new Super Mario 3D platformer for the device, maybe a Sunshine Spinoff (and not remake!)

darth-pyschosis

How about something like a new Star Fox or Metroid? I bet those would be good games to show off the new tech, whenever it comes.

Look at it this way guys, this why i think the Tegra 2 DS rumors are false

the Zune HD uses the current on the market Tegra i think, it costs roughly about $150-$180 to make the Zune HD everything included, multi-touch OLED, wifi, 16GBs flash, Tegra, 256MB RAM, etc.

now would nintendo really take a system on a chip designed for netbooks,smartbooks, smartphones, tablet PCs and put it in the DS when its still cutting edge tech and would force the manufacturing costs of the handheld after 2 screens (at a higher res too), multi-touch (coz if it isn't multi-touch its a joke), wifi, some flash memory, etc.... it could likely push the hardware costs near or above $200, i just don't see Nintendo launching a console for that much coz nintendo is known, like apple, to sell consoles at near a 30% profit

Lets say it costs $180 to make it, nintendo would likely charge $230 or $250 to turn a GOOD profit, i don't see nintendo makin it and selling each unit for $10 profit

even the Wii was around $210 in 2006, and they made $40 profit on it (to make i mean)

i would say its 50% chance its a new DS game, 40% chance its DSi only, 10% its a new DS launch title

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i don't think Pokemon would be the first game i'd say i'd want to see out of Tegra 2's 800Mhz CPU and 200Mhz GPU (or is that Tegra APX2600?)

but yes it would sell and be a wise decision although i'd rather see a new Super Mario 3D platformer for the device, maybe a Sunshine Spinoff (and not remake!)

Luigi12901

How about something like a new Star Fox or Metroid? I bet those would be good games to show off the new tech, whenever it comes.

i'd love that, Metroid would be more likely since it seems Nintendo forgot about SF as an IP they own sadly

I sure hope these "new gameplay elements" don't completely ruin me favorite series. Honestly I'm completely okay with more of the same.

metroid and star fox are not that popular espeacially in Japan. Not good launch titles at all. Miyamoto even said he thought Star Fox might be dead a while ago.

Golden Sun would make a good launch title I'm sure it could show off lots of cool new ablities :P

The new handheld is coming lets not hate it for the lack of a GBA slot ;)

metroid and star fox are not that popular espeacially in Japan. Not good launch titles at all. Miyamoto even said he thought Star Fox might be dead a while ago.

Golden Sun would make a good launch title I'm sure it could show off lots of cool new ablities :P

The new handheld is coming lets not hate it for the lack of a GBA slot ;)

Cruse34

Hopefully not or I bought a DSi for nothing.

I actually think pokemon would be a good game to show off the new graphics. Pokemon has been using a pretty low standard for some time, and fans don't seem to mind that at all. The Tegra set up is going to be significantly better graphics, meaning most pokemon fans will be blown away by the change between current pokemon games and one on this new system, even if it wasn't up to the new systems highest standards. It would also be a great way to have a ton of kids begging parents for the newest system to play the newest pokemon game, and it would work.

3d sanbox pokemon with hd graphics plsFILIPINOMAZTER

Not happening, anytime soon

If its a new handheld, actually yes since it would technically be HD so long as its higher than 256x192

This wouldn't be the first time Nintendo put two generations of Pokemon on one Handheld...

This wouldn't be the first time Nintendo put two generations of Pokemon on one Handheld...

windsquid9000

Gold and Silver don't count because they were specifically designed for the Game Boy Color.

they said the game's being made for the DS, not a new hardware... so STOP THINKING A NEW DS IS COMING BECAUSE OF THIS.BrunoBRS

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It's really not that hard to see that they talk about a new pokemon game in the ds.

As someone else said the game has been confirmed for the DS. I would highly doubt that Nintendo would release a new handheld shortly after the DSi was released. Also the DS has a gigantic userbase and Nintendo would be foolish to abandon them and start all over again with a new handheld.

they said the game's being made for the DS, not a new hardware... so STOP THINKING A NEW DS IS COMING BECAUSE OF THIS.BrunoBRS

Pokemon Red and Blue were released only two months before the Game Boy Color replaced the Game Boy.

I am not saying that a new handheld is going to be released soon, but just because the new Pokémon game is going to be released this year is no guarantee that a new hardware is not coming.

As someone else said the game has been confirmed for the DS. I would highly doubt that Nintendo would release a new handheld shortly after the DSi was released. Also the DS has a gigantic userbase and Nintendo would be foolish to abandon them and start all over again with a new handheld.

Scythes777

Uhmm.. if you remember back when R/B/Y/S/G/C came out they were compatible with eachother.. why wouldnt these be able to be? SLUSHiNaToR

[QUOTE="SLUSHiNaToR"]Uhmm.. if you remember back when R/B/Y/S/G/C came out they were compatible with eachother.. why wouldnt these be able to be? Scythes777

[QUOTE="Scythes777"][QUOTE="SLUSHiNaToR"]Uhmm.. if you remember back when R/B/Y/S/G/C came out they were compatible with eachother.. why wouldnt these be able to be? windsquid9000

Following that reasoning, RSE shoudn't be compatible with DPPt.

It is.

Edit: The reason of the non-compatibility between RBY/GSC and RSE were the large amounts of bugs and glitches that the firsts editions had. Pokemon and item cloning, missigno and the box trick, only to name a few.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]they said the game's being made for the DS, not a new hardware... so STOP THINKING A NEW DS IS COMING BECAUSE OF THIS.gacs_25

Pokemon Red and Blue were released only two months before the Game Boy Color replaced the Game Boy.

I am not saying that a new handheld is going to be released soon, but just because the new Pokémon game is going to be released this year is no guarantee that a new hardware is not coming.

[QUOTE="gacs_25"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]they said the game's being made for the DS, not a new hardware... so STOP THINKING A NEW DS IS COMING BECAUSE OF THIS.BrunoBRS

Pokemon Red and Blue were released only two months before the Game Boy Color replaced the Game Boy.

I am not saying that a new handheld is going to be released soon, but just because the new Pokémon game is going to be released this year is no guarantee that a new hardware is not coming.

My point. Both arguments effectively cancel each other.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]they said the game's being made for the DS, not a new hardware... so STOP THINKING A NEW DS IS COMING BECAUSE OF THIS.gacs_25

Pokemon Red and Blue were released only two months before the Game Boy Color replaced the Game Boy.

I am not saying that a new handheld is going to be released soon, but just because the new Pokémon game is going to be released this year is no guarantee that a new hardware is not coming.

Guys, Nintendo only announced a new Pokemon game to the DS. The only thing that can be undestood from that is that there will be a new pokemon game on DS!

There's no point in creating crazy theories of a new handheld only based on that! It's like saying "My chinese vase was broken by a cat, then tomorrow will be a rainy day. Because the vase had a rain painting." And if something like that has happened in the past, nothing says that it WILL happen again.

We are not creating "crazy theories". People discuss, just like you do. We are not trying to create a bonfire and burn the heretics; we are just discussing the many possibilities that the future may hold.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]they said the game's being made for the DS, not a new hardware... so STOP THINKING A NEW DS IS COMING BECAUSE OF THIS.windsquid9000

Pokemon Red and Blue were released only two months before the Game Boy Color replaced the Game Boy.

I am not saying that a new handheld is going to be released soon, but just because the new Pokémon game is going to be released this year is no guarantee that a new hardware is not coming.

No. The GBC had retail games specifically made for it, ergo, it was a new console. Only a few games released were actually capable of being played on the GB; it essentially rendered the GB useless. This is not the case with the DSi.