Nintendo - 1st to go next-gen

[QUOTE="1PMrFister"][QUOTE="rcafan"] sony and ms won't be able to add much to grapchis in the next gen systems., hence this why nintendo will look better. n64 speaks for itself. so does cube.. cube was more powerful than ps2. but less powerful than xbox. n64 was more powerful than ps1. not sure really about sega at the time.rcafan

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[QUOTE="1PMrFister"]Gamecube and N64 were both outsold handily by other systems. If anything, the only thing Nintendo learned from that is a stronger system doesn't guarantee better sales (which the Wii and DS have only further proved).1PMrFister

if they go first sony will copy everything they do

if they go first sony will copy everything they do

dontshackzmii

Nintendo went in a direction of less complexity and more accessability.

Gamers often complain that Wii games lack depth, complexity, and storylines. Yet, when Nintendo went for storyline with Other M, people complained.

As I see it, the three main reasons to go with a next gen console are: 3D, deeper storylines, and deeper more complex games.

However:

There is no base of 3D TVs.

People don't like Nintendo's stories.

Nintendo wanted less complexity in their games, not more.

On the other hand, It would be nice to see what Nintendo could do with a more more powerful system. It would also be nice to have a backwards compatible system that could upscale and anti-alias the graphics.

Surely they wouldn't have the same controls. Nintendo are technological geniuses. They would be more original, creative and would explore. I could very well be wrong, but they would have a new perspective, wouldn't they?

paranoidpixie95

Nintendo went in a direction of less complexity and more accessability.

Gamers often complain that Wii games lack depth, complexity, and storylines. Yet, when Nintendo went for storyline with Other M, people complained.

As I see it, the three main reasons to go with a next gen console are: 3D, deeper storylines, and deeper more complex games.

However:

There is no base of 3D TVs.

People don't like Nintendo's stories.

Nintendo wanted less complexity in their games, not more.

On the other hand, It would be nice to see what Nintendo could do with a more more powerful system. It would also be nice to have a backwards compatible system that could upscale and anti-alias the graphics.

mrfokken

1. People complain about the story of Other:M because our perception of the protagonist apparently was very wrong, and Metroid fans were shocked. The story itself was actually good.

2. The 360 and PS3 have deeper and more complex games? How do you figure? They have more adult oriented games or as some people like to say "hardcore" titles.

3. 3D TV's are still brand new, it'll be the gen after next before we see 3D TV's as common place. Heck, HDTV's are just becoming commonplace.

4. Who doesn't like Nintendo stories? Last time I checked a game like Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was praised for it's story and charm. Could easily name another half dozen games.

5. Nintendo wants accessibility and streamlined control. If you ask me all companies are doing that. Gaming is becoming commonplace in society and it has to be accessible. Nintendo is good about making games accessible, but difficult to master (ala Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Metroid, etc.)

6. With the DS, Wii and now 3DS being so revolutionary but not ridiculous (Virtual Boy, although I LOVE Virtual Boy) I'm extremely curious to see what they have up their sleeves.

Sonic you bring up a very good point. I'm thinking about all the consoles of Nintendo and I'm thinking that only the NES was the first in it's gen but as we've seen this gen Nintendo is never predictable. I also think it's interesting that Wii's life might be at the end with Zelda just like GC was. I wouldn't mind an HD upgraded graphics skyward sword to come out alongside it.

Im expecting that they will stick with motion control, just improve on it. They will make a major jump in graphics compaired to the Wii but, they are not going to have the latest and greatest hardware (at least graphics wise) to keep cost down and to keep it simple for 3rd party devs to develope for it. They will obviously improve the online gaming experience and maybe make it were the download content for this new system has the great quality of game play and work put into it that we would see from Nintendo themselves. I also expect them to throw something else into it (that many people would consider a gimmick), but it will be one of the selling points for this console. I also expect that they will keep BC with Wii games and maybe even GC games. They just have to do the above and do a few other things and once again Nintendo will see their brand printing money.

[QUOTE="mrfokken"]

Nintendo went in a direction of less complexity and more accessability.

Gamers often complain that Wii games lack depth, complexity, and storylines. Yet, when Nintendo went for storyline with Other M, people complained.

As I see it, the three main reasons to go with a next gen console are: 3D, deeper storylines, and deeper more complex games.

However:

There is no base of 3D TVs.

People don't like Nintendo's stories.

Nintendo wanted less complexity in their games, not more.

On the other hand, It would be nice to see what Nintendo could do with a more more powerful system. It would also be nice to have a backwards compatible system that could upscale and anti-alias the graphics.

sonic_spark

1. People complain about the story of Other:M because our perception of the protagonist apparently was very wrong, and Metroid fans were shocked. The story itself was actually good.

2. The 360 and PS3 have deeper and more complex games? How do you figure? They have more adult oriented games or as some people like to say "hardcore" titles.

3. 3D TV's are still brand new, it'll be the gen after next before we see 3D TV's as common place. Heck, HDTV's are just becoming commonplace.

4. Who doesn't like Nintendo stories? Last time I checked a game like Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was praised for it's story and charm. Could easily name another half dozen games.

5. Nintendo wants accessibility and streamlined control. If you ask me all companies are doing that. Gaming is becoming commonplace in society and it has to be accessible. Nintendo is good about making games accessible, but difficult to master (ala Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Metroid, etc.)

6. With the DS, Wii and now 3DS being so revolutionary but not ridiculous (Virtual Boy, although I LOVE Virtual Boy) I'm extremely curious to see what they have up their sleeves.

1. I agree. I like Other M. Still, many people don't like the story based nature of it. Mario, Kirby, and Donkey Kong don't really need much of a story. Metroid's lack of a clear story led to people's misperseptions, and Zelda retells the same story at different times with different twists, but it is a recurring story.

2. I love my Wii. It is my system of choice, but let's be realistic. What games on the Wii have the depth and complexity of Red Dead Redemption or Uncharted 2, or Assassins Creed 2, or Alan Wake, or Batman Arkham Asylum, or . . . Whatever you want to categorize them as, they are compelling complex games which 3rd party designers don't even try to produce on the Wii. As much as I like my Mario, Zelda, and Metroid, I can see that many designers choose the other platforms for their visions. That is how I figure.

3. That is what I said.

4. Yes, please name another half dozen Nintendo games that have a deep story. I can't think of them.

5. Yes, and no. Nintendo wanted people to move the controller like the action you would make in the game. Golf, bowling, tennis, and other games work great this way. However, Monster Hunter Tri and TvC are examples of games where that idea just doesn't apply. While I am a big fan of motion controls, I realize there are games that are best played with controls that casual gamers would not feel comfortable with.

6. Me too.