Nintendo 3rd party fails...Post your frustrations

If Nintendo advertised 3rd party games like The Conduit, MadWorld, or No More Heroes they wouldn't have fared terribly at stores. Nintendo fans listen to Nintendo simple as that. If HVS says this game is great... no one listens. Meanwhile...Nintendo says this game is great and it sells well. Am I right or not? You decide.

I think at one point Reggie mentions that the conduit was a great game, but i guess his opinion wasn't important the game still didn't sell that much

I wouldn't recommend Conduit to someone who doesn't have an Online Connection.

Ask the 3rd party why they failed not Nintendo. It's their games.

Its up to 3rd party publishers to advertise their games. They can't expect Nintendo's marketing division to do all the work for them. Besides, Nintendo is awful at marketing core games.meetroid8

The Conduit was a 7/10 game at best and still managed 400,000 copies sold.

Madworld was a whopping 4 hours long and still managed 515,000 copies sold.

No More Heroes 1 had VERY little ads in Europe and none in America, and still shipped 500,000 copies.

None of those games make anyones best of all time list, and scrape the bottom hundred for their respective years of release. Games that are good enough to sell millions, will be enabled to sell millions. Publishers who believe in it the series will promote it.

People blame Nintendo for every little thing, but the fact of the matter is, the majority of 3rd party developers are terrible. Publishers are even worse. In this case, the biggest problem is the man in the mirror.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Its up to 3rd party publishers to advertise their games. They can't expect Nintendo's marketing division to do all the work for them. Besides, Nintendo is awful at marketing core games.crazyluigi199

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Its up to 3rd party publishers to advertise their games. They can't expect Nintendo's marketing division to do all the work for them. Besides, Nintendo is awful at marketing core games.crazyluigi199

"if nintendo did the publisher's work" it's not nintendo's fault.BrunoBRS

there we go. why on earth would Nintendo feel obligated to advertise the Conduit, or No More Hereos? theres nothing there for them to help with. Nintendo has smartly choosen a few games and in teh media treated the as first party. They are going to help out Epic Mickey and Goldeneye big time they have been and they will continue to. They have also helped the thrid parties by getting them over to NA in the first place.

Nintendo has no need to help the Conduit such normal not special games. But when something special does come along they help it out to become nuch more of a commerical success

No More Heroes is the only good game on the listbobcheeseball

I have to disagree. Madworld is the only "good" game on the list. I hate No More Heroes:P

I honestly don't think The Conduit was all that bad. Sure, it was simple as hell but I had enough fun playing it.

Aside from bringing those games up on an eventual E3 presentation - something that they have already done - I really don't see how Nintendo could help third-party developers advertise their software.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Its up to 3rd party publishers to advertise their games. They can't expect Nintendo's marketing division to do all the work for them. Besides, Nintendo is awful at marketing core games.crazyluigi199

When you take the time out to think, Nintendo has advertised almost every big game QUALITY game 3rd parties have given them.

MH3? Ad campaign. Samurai Warriors 3? Localization & Ad campaign. Dragon Quest 9? Ad campaign.

Unfortunately, the ride stops there because 3rd parties haven't given them a game WORTH promoting since.

It was not a good game that lived to its hyped and targeted to a very niche audience that likes their fps titles generic.wiifan001

When you take the time out to think, Nintendo has advertised almost every big game QUALITY game 3rd parties have given them.

MH3? Ad campaign. Samurai Warriors 3? Localization & Ad campaign. Dragon Quest 9? Ad campaign.

Unfortunately, the ride stops there because 3rd parties haven't given them a game WORTH promoting since.

DaLegendKilla92

It was not a good game that lived to its hyped and targeted to a very niche audience that likes their fps titles generic.wiifan001

The people that like their FPS titles generic aren't exactly a niche audience.

[QUOTE="DaLegendKilla92"]

When you take the time out to think, Nintendo has advertised almost every big game QUALITY game 3rd parties have given them.

MH3? Ad campaign. Samurai Warriors 3? Localization & Ad campaign. Dragon Quest 9? Ad campaign.

Unfortunately, the ride stops there because 3rd parties haven't given them a game WORTH promoting since.

crazyluigi199

That is why Nintendo advertised them they have no obligation to do the job of a Publisher for 3rd Parties if they aren't actually publishing the game in some region.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]It was not a good game that lived to its hyped and targeted to a very niche audience that likes their fps titles generic.DraugenCP

The people that like their FPS titles generic aren't exactly a niche audience.

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]It was not a good game that lived to its hyped and targeted to a very niche audience that likes their fps titles generic.wiifan001

The people that like their FPS titles generic aren't exactly a niche audience.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

The people that like their FPS titles generic aren't exactly a niche audience.

Sepewrath

On another system, they are extraordinarily niche compared to the wii audience.

Guess I am one of the only few here that actually likes 3rd party titles... :P

btw

Teh 3rd Party Fails on Wii. :P

Third party software doesn't sell as well on the Wii because third party software tends to be of higher quality on the 360/PS3.

Lets face it, the Wii sucks. It has the worst graphics than any of the consoles on the market. That's why third parties don't make games for the Wii that often. They want to make an exploding building as detailed as possible. There hasn't been a game out for the Wii I wanted in a few years. A couple years ago I played the demo for Overlord and I wanted it for the Xbox 360. For christmas, my parents got me the Wii version instead. When I played it I thought, this isn't like the demo at all, this sucks. It was then I realize they had to completley remake it on an engine suitable for the Wii. GraveDigger571

:lol: if you're in Australia virtually no 3rd party games gets advertise :P

No third party developer has made a game with a big budget and with a top tier team yet. The only one coming up is Epic Mickey - Which is made with 250+ staff, Warren Spector and Pixar also helping out the studio. A lot of those games also don't perform well commercially because of timing of release or they don't justify people spending $50 on that over a Nintendo game. No third party, to this day, has made a game as good as a Nintendo title on the platform (Monster Hunter Tri is close). Epic Mickey may be the first to be on par with other Nintendo titles, otherwise I see nothing in the future that will stack up.

I believe there are enough games out that prove otherwise to your statement.

2007

Zack and Wiki

Resident Evil 4

2008

Okami

De Blob

Bloom Blox

No More Heroes

Trauma second opinion

2009

House of the dead Overkill

Rune Factory

Little Kings Story

Maramusa the Demon Blade

2010

Trauma 3

Tatsunoko vs Capcom

No more Heroes 2

Monster Hunter Tri

Sin and Punishment 2

NBA Jam

The Conduit 2

Sega racing all stars

Sonic Colors

Goldeneye

There are plenty examples. I know I am jumping the gun a bit with games that are not out yet, but what I have seen of them, they may not be triple A, but they seem worth your time anyway.

No More Heroes is the only good game on the listbobcheeseball

If Nintendo advertised 3rd party games like The Conduit, MadWorld, or No More Heroes they wouldn't have fared terribly at stores. Nintendo fans listen to Nintendo simple as that. If HVS says this game is great... no one listens. Meanwhile...Nintendo says this game is great and it sells well. Am I right or not? You decide.

Two of the games you mentioned already have sequels, No More Heroes had major names in Marvelous and Suda51 celebrating their highest sales yet... >_>