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Lets not get in a 3DS versus Vita war. They are both good handhelds. The 3DS does have great games they just released the system before the games were ready. Kid Icarus, Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Luigi's Mansion 2, Animal Crossing, and Paper Mario are really good games. Nintendo did overcharge for the system, it should have been $199 to begin with but I'm happy with getting 20 free games.That's one of the reasons. The other reason is because they were asking way too much for it. By lowering the price and trying to make up for it, they are basically admitting that the 3DS isn't worth any more than $170 (probably less or else they wouldn't make any profit) and they've been ****ing over all the people who paid $250 for it.
Oh, and the irony here is that everyone said the 3DS would win the war against Sony because of all the "great games". :D
GAMESHARQ
well, the thing is that the biggest problem they made is NO MARIO LAUNCH title, im not saying that ocarina of time is bad but they would have sold it much better to kids if they would pack in mario, also there is no starfox,pokemon,metroid etc... for me, the main reason why I bought my ds was for Mario and Pokemon, so until they have Mario on the 3DS, this game console is worth barely anyhting
Price drop is coming to Aust in Aug 12th ...from SRP $349 AUD (insanely ridiculous) ..to SRP$249 AUD. Early adopters get free games :D
Combination of 2 things stupid price & no NEW 1st party titles ...Zelda OoT is rehash, people who already played this weren't really gonna be too excited about it. No one to blame but themself.
http://www.nintendo.com.au/index.php?action=news&nid=1098&pageID=6
..bahahaha...
It was both the lack of games and the price. Now that there is going to be a price cut, a HUGE one, and more games comming out soon the 3DS should sell a lot more.
Yeah. I agree, the other reason for the failure was the high price tag, though Nintendo has fixed that. 170 for the 3DS? holy moly, thank god they are giving us early adoptors 20 free games or I would had been pissed.
Yeah, I agree. I'd even argue that the lack of games has affected sales more than the price.Aquat1cF1shI would agree, the lack of games is was allowed the price to become a topic of conversation. If people were too busy talking about the onslaught of games, price wouldn't have been much of an issue. The price wasn't so outrageous that it would override a large quantity of solid software.
Zelda shipments were pathetic. Stores here are still regularly sold out of copies, and it's not because the game is just selling like mad - the biggest stores in my city only received a couple dozen copies during the first week of release.DJ_LaeThat's on the retailers, when was the last time you heard of a game being sold out? Those retailers simply didn't take into account the demand of the area and didn't order enough.
Overpriced with no games and poor advertisement (this is DS in 3D). That's the failure of the 3DS. But the biggest one is no games--yes.
That's on the retailers, when was the last time you heard of a game being sold out? Those retailers simply didn't take into account the demand of the area and didn't order enough. SepewrathMaybe, but I heard that Nintendo artificially constrained shipments when the game came out (it's why sales figures for Ocarina of Time 3D were relatively low, because only that many copies were actually made). I don't know what Nintendo expected to happen when that game released - obviously people are going to want to buy the first good game for the 3DS.
May the PS Vita win!
Spinnerweb
Are you kidding? Sony said that the psp vita won't be profitable for 3 years and it is as cheap as it is no price drops anytime soon. So it's best to buy it if you can.
Overpriced with no games and poor advertisement (this is DS in 3D). That's the failure of the 3DS. But the biggest one is no games--yes.
cdragon_88
the main reason that there were no great games is because the 3ds wasn't selling well. Game companies tend to have considerations throwing out there games if the system it self did not sell well, so yeah if the 3ds would sell well with the price drop, there would be an oppertunity to invite third party games.
This is a tide turner and a golden oppertunity for nintendo to stand on par with the market today and to balance there standing profit if the the 3ds tends to survive.
This reminds me of the ps3 back then when there the price was original, certain game companies consider not to make games because there are only few who have them.Therefore, this is a great move for nintendo.
But I could never escape the fact that I bought it at launch, makes me want to cry.
Yeah. I agree, the other reason for the failure was the high price tag, though Nintendo has fixed that. 170 for the 3DS? holy moly, thank god they are giving us early adoptors 20 free games or I would had been pissed.
Gamingclone
I'm still pissed. None of these games really interest me. I would rather have had a coupon (or two) for a 3DS game. I have a 3DS to play 3DS games, sure it's fun to play snes and gbadvance, but that's not why i bought it.
I feel screwed by Nintendo. The only reason i still have to keep my 3DS (and buy new Nintendo consoles) is Pokemon.
Exactly, doesn't exactly sound believable does it? That scheme that people were talking about, making it look like its in high demand doesn't work with software, especially in this situation where the hardware is starved for games. So in other words, its a pretty safe bet that isn't true. SepewrathMaybe the low shipments were a Canada only thing, then. I'm not really sure. But it does seem odd Nintendo would underestimate how many copies they would sell of the first good 3DS game.
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Yeah. I agree, the other reason for the failure was the high price tag, though Nintendo has fixed that. 170 for the 3DS? holy moly, thank god they are giving us early adoptors 20 free games or I would had been pissed.
DGonlag
I'm still pissed. None of these games really interest me. I would rather have had a coupon (or two) for a 3DS game. I have a 3DS to play 3DS games, sure it's fun to play snes and gbadvance, but that's not why i bought it.
I feel screwed by Nintendo. The only reason i still have to keep my 3DS (and buy new Nintendo consoles) is Pokemon.
Well Nintendo hasnt revealed what all the games they will give away for free are. Also, cant please everyone. If you so please, just return your 3DS and buy another one for the lower price.
well success dont happen overnight see ds ,
and where it is today, im suprised they dropped the price when it all it needed was a software line up which is coming soon ,
aka mariokart paper mario starfox resident evil driver pacman etc , the list grows , ,
yet some get canned oh well move on ,
and this price drop will boost this thing to a good rate , and it is good cause not only does it face palm all those who said oh im not buying 3ds its the same prices as so and so , ehhh wrong hah and us early adapters get 20 free games ,
will sony ever come close - i dont think so , they only offere 2 for psn , and microsoft only offered 1 , so what company beside nintendo that gives out
not 2 but 22 free games-counging excite bike , the upcoming free zelda and the newly announced 20 free games thing ,
so ya and being 169,99 on par with dsi , , and i hope yall didnt buy dsis lol , id feel so bad ,
hahah it will get its titles and more now lol
Sounds pretty accurate. I just don't see why Nintendo didn't make Pokemon Black and White a 3DS title from the beginning since they launched so close to each other. That would've been a good launch seller right there.
Well the same way people complained about Nintendo just jumping to the Wii U at the expense of the Wii, they would have said the same if Black and White had jumped ship. Also keep in mind, it would take at least a year or so for the 3DS to get an install base large enough to cover the typical sales of Pokemon. Putting it on the 3DS would have slowed sales as its moving away from the huge potential audience on the DS.Sounds pretty accurate. I just don't see why Nintendo didn't make Pokemon Black and White a 3DS title from the beginning since they launched so close to each other. That would've been a good launch seller right there.
soulless4now
Its a couple of reasons
1) Lack of software
2) Too expensive
3) horrible advertising
Basically everything that was wrong with the ps3 at launch... While cutting the cost is great, and we know the games are going to come soon.. they really REALLY need a great ad campaign to complete the package and make this thing a success.
In my opinion, I think the lack of software was just a minor problem. Of course here on the GS forums its the biggest deal to us. That because we are all gamers and take pride in that fact. However Nintendo's main reason for success is how the kids and the more casual people latched onto the DS. I honestly think it was because of its low price. If the 3DS launched at 170 from the start, there would be no sales failure.
IMO launching the system without a MAJOR Mario release is just stupid. People buy Nintendo for Zelda, Mario, etc. Nobody buys a new console for a port of Stree Fighter 4. I was excited to get my system at launch, but the titles were just dissapointing. This isn't Nintendo's first system launch without a major title, they seem to repeat this process and get worse ever since the Cube. Anybody old enough to remember the N64 launch? You couldn't find a console on the shelves if your life depended on it, and Mario 64 copies were almost as hard to find.
Anyway, my thoughts as to why its failed so far...
1. Software (lack of!)
2. Economy
3. Price was too high
4. Poor marketing (Plenty of ads, just wrong approach)
o you guys think this is the main reason?DrakeNathanPerceived lack of quality games was definitely a problem, even though I think it's more myth than reality as there have been a number of excellent games available for the 3DS since day one, but with the press eager to torpedo the 3DS, they didn't give the games a chance and fed into that false perception.
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