Nintendo did a bad job on the 3DS...

by not showing people that it is a NEXT GEN handheld system, come on "3DS" was smart and catchy but it makes everyone think that its just the DS with 3D capabilitys, when really its not...i think they really NEED to change its name.

White_wolf_eye

[QUOTE="seankane"]

The OP is actually pretty spot-on.

You guys cant argue from the, "if you had watched E3....", or "Nintendo *said* it was next-gen", because not everybody follows video games like we do. With all the different DS's out there, you'd be hard pressed to know that this is a new generation handheld just by the name.

Its all marketing. Ideally, if everybody was knowledgeable, or had the motivation to become knowledgeable about products they have an interest in buying, there would be absolutely no need for marketing at all.

I dont think Nintendo have done a good job at all about making it known that this is not just another version of the DS. Thats evidenced by all the people that are still unaware. But to be honest, there's still plenty of time. We're probably not gonna get the 3DS til early next year, so there's 6 months+ for Nintendo to get the word out and do some better marketing for it. Nintendo is usually quite good in this area.

Rheiken

this isnt about sony but i dont think they will have a problem because everybody thinks the psp 2000 or 3000 is just "the psp non GO" ask the casual gamer and this is what your going to get : "lol whats a psp 3000" lol i do understand because alot of people hwere thinking the psp Go was the psp2 unfortunetly.

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

by not showing people that it is a NEXT GEN handheld system, come on "3DS" was smart and catchy but it makes everyone think that its just the DS with 3D capabilitys, when really its not...i think they really NEED to change its name.

Sly_Boogy07

^ Yeah, but that's why Nintendo will hammer the world with adverts around the time the 3DS is released. The only problem I imagine them having convincing people that it is a significant improvement on the previous generation is in not being able to show 3D unless you're there in person, but even then, they can still just have Ant and Dec or whatever celebrities the American adverts might use to do adverts where they're showing the 3DS to members of the public and the people are all amazed etc.

But when it comes out, they'll pretty easily be able to make a big deal about all the reasons why it's massively improved. When the DSi XL they had adverts of a DSi XL next to a DSi to emphasise the increase in size etc, they could easily do something similar where they show and explain all the various improvements and all the new features that the 3DS will offer etc. No point doing stuff like that now from a casual point of view, they can still sell a few DSis, but there'll be loads of adverts around the time of release and I don't think many people will be confused when that happens.

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

not from my experience.

Sepewrath

The reason the Vii didn't sell is simple. Zero advertising, Zero brand recognition, number of stores seliing it: slim to none.

• Imagine: Babyz, Gamerankings score: 35% (1 Review), 2.78 million copies sold.
• Just Dance, Gamerankings score: 48.41% (17 Reviews), 3.4 million copies sold. (20th best selling game on Wii)

• Game Party, Gamerankings score: 30.5% (6 reviews), 2.2 million copies sold.

^ Lol yeah, the average Nintendo consumer researches thier purchases.

lol i just looked up the VII, is it really by nintendo?

lol i just looked up the VII, is it really by nintendo?

White_wolf_eye

[QUOTE="TriniPlayer"]I thought it was obvious that it was the next gen handheld since it got it's own lineup of games.White_wolf_eye

Having said that I am sure Nintendo will finda way to impress upon people that this is the next big thing. Let's be honest. Selling hardware and advertising is something that Nintendo has been extremely adept at during the last few years. I am sure that trend will continue. Whether that means a shift in marketing or an outright name change though is Nintendo's call. I trust at this point they know what they are doing...if they call sell a system called 'Wii' then they sure as heck do know that.

The reason the Vii didn't sell is simple. Zero advertising, Zero brand recognition, number of stores seliing it: slim to none.

• Imagine: Babyz, Gamerankings score: 35% (1 Review), 2.78 million copies sold.
• Just Dance, Gamerankings score: 48.41% (17 Reviews), 3.4 million copies sold. (20th best selling game on Wii)

• Game Party, Gamerankings score: 30.5% (6 reviews), 2.2 million copies sold.

^ Lol yeah, the average Nintendo consumer researches thier purchases.

19061980

lol i just looked up the VII, is it really by nintendo?

White_wolf_eye

I think Nintendo has already said it's a brand new handheld. Only stupid people haven't figured it out yet, you know, the ones who constantly troll the forums making new threads asking the question of whether or notit's a new handheld, when really all they need to do is look at other threads that have answered this.

So Nintendo didn't do a bad job at all. The OP's got it all messed up.

Ovirew

Is the 3DS a new handheld? lol Just kidding, I know it is, but what defines a console as a new or different generation? I used to think it was a span of four years but now Im not too sure...

[QUOTE="Ovirew"]

I think Nintendo has already said it's a brand new handheld. Only stupid people haven't figured it out yet, you know, the ones who constantly troll the forums making new threads asking the question of whether or notit's a new handheld, when really all they need to do is look at other threads that have answered this.

So Nintendo didn't do a bad job at all. The OP's got it all messed up.

Chopinist

Is the 3DS a new handheld? lol Just kidding, I know it is, but what defines a console as a new or different generation? I used to think it was a span of four years but now Im not too sure...

Somehow I still think it'll sell well...

Man, one page into this post and I was already annoyed with the TC..the point of E3 is to showcase new stuff in the industry..you have only yourself to blame if you didn't watch it...*******

[QUOTE="Rheiken"][QUOTE="seankane"]

The OP is actually pretty spot-on.

You guys cant argue from the, "if you had watched E3....", or "Nintendo *said* it was next-gen", because not everybody follows video games like we do. With all the different DS's out there, you'd be hard pressed to know that this is a new generation handheld just by the name.

Its all marketing. Ideally, if everybody was knowledgeable, or had the motivation to become knowledgeable about products they have an interest in buying, there would be absolutely no need for marketing at all.

I dont think Nintendo have done a good job at all about making it known that this is not just another version of the DS. Thats evidenced by all the people that are still unaware. But to be honest, there's still plenty of time. We're probably not gonna get the 3DS til early next year, so there's 6 months+ for Nintendo to get the word out and do some better marketing for it. Nintendo is usually quite good in this area.

White_wolf_eye

this isnt about sony but i dont think they will have a problem because everybody thinks the psp 2000 or 3000 is just "the psp non GO" ask the casual gamer and this is what your going to get : "lol whats a psp 3000" lol i do understand because alot of people hwere thinking the psp Go was the psp2 unfortunetly.

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="TriniPlayer"]I thought it was obvious that it was the next gen handheld since it got it's own lineup of games.BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="Chopinist"]

[QUOTE="Ovirew"]

I think Nintendo has already said it's a brand new handheld. Only stupid people haven't figured it out yet, you know, the ones who constantly troll the forums making new threads asking the question of whether or notit's a new handheld, when really all they need to do is look at other threads that have answered this.

So Nintendo didn't do a bad job at all. The OP's got it all messed up.

BrunoBRS

Is the 3DS a new handheld? lol Just kidding, I know it is, but what defines a console as a new or different generation? I used to think it was a span of four years but now Im not too sure...

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Chopinist"]

Is the 3DS a new handheld? lol Just kidding, I know it is, but what defines a console as a new or different generation? I used to think it was a span of four years but now Im not too sure...

White_wolf_eye

ugh if its called 3ds its not gonna be confused with any ds since nintendo always put ds first with dsi dsixl etc

and it will have its own section of gamesi n a store

ugh if its called 3ds its not gonna be confused with any ds since nintendo always put ds first with dsi dsixl etc

and it will have its own section of gamesi n a store

mariokart64fan

[QUOTE="19061980"]

The reason the Vii didn't sell is simple. Zero advertising, Zero brand recognition, number of stores seliing it: slim to none.

• Imagine: Babyz, Gamerankings score: 35% (1 Review), 2.78 million copies sold.
• Just Dance, Gamerankings score: 48.41% (17 Reviews), 3.4 million copies sold. (20th best selling game on Wii)

• Game Party, Gamerankings score: 30.5% (6 reviews), 2.2 million copies sold.

^ Lol yeah, the average Nintendo consumer researches thier purchases.

Sepewrath

On the topic of Gamerankings:

1. Would you have prefered I used Gamespot's reviews? Or IGN's? A single person's opinion. Or an average of public opinion, which is what I chose to do. Gamerankings was the easiest vehicle to make my point.
2. There's a natural phenomenon called "The wisdom of the crowd". When people all put there knowledge in on a single matter, thier final average value is always correct or very close.

With regards to my purchasing habits, take a little look at my games collection.

Average score: 7.9

Not exactly the shining beacon of perfection you (wrongly) assume my purchasing habits must be.

No I'm pretty sure its just another DS slightly beefed up...jmg128thinfrgt

Then you'd be wrong. It is, by official announcement, a whole new handheld console, and the first eighth generation platform.

It is in fact a next gen handheld system and is entirely a different hand held from the previous "DS". It will have different games (probably 2 Gigs in size) so expect it to feature console graphics with a 3D effect. Perhaps you thought that it was just a DS with a 3D screen...:P