Nintendo getting Lazy!!!!

i dont know but i'm starting to think that nintendo is getting lazy, because whats up with all the remakes it's the same story same every thing except diffrent controls. For example Pikimin why not just make Pikmin 3, Mario Tennis, etc.

i dont know but i'm starting to think that nintendo is getting lazy, because whats up with all the remakes it's the same story same every thing except diffrent controls. For example Pikimin why not just make Pikmin 3, Mario Tennis, etc.

EvilShark94

Honestly, it's not their remakes that are the reason they're lazy. It's their blatent disregard for localizing so many games over seas. Seriously, where's Disaster? Where's Captain Rainbow? Where's Professor Layton 2 and 3?

Most of these titles are already in english, meaning there is NO excuse to not localize them.

They are getting lazy and its sad gamers are denying it, the Virtual console itself is proof they hadn't released a big name game since probably november one of the greatest features to be on a system and they are screwing it up. Not to mention its pathetic they can get the license from their own games from RARE which is believe is one of the greatest gaming companies in the world making the greatest games in the Donkey Kong Country games. And they are making crap games for the wii they are allowing the third parties to make crappy games that aren't helping the system grow. I"m waiting for them to bring out the next big title which is who knows when. Nintendo is LAZY!!!

I dont wanna say that i think they getting lazy, but it might be true. There hasnt been any announcements on the games we want, and that is what bugs me. Just tell us that you makin a Pikimin3, SMG-2, Zelda, Metriod, Starfox, etc... and we will be happy. I dont mind remakes, cause i would like to replay prime 1,2 and pikmini, but i want new games. But what we all need to realize, is nintendo has been doing this the longest, they make tons of amazing games, and i really doubt with the fact they have the #1 system, they are not making the games we want to see. We still have 3+ years to get them.da_chub

Honestly, it's not their remakes that are the reason they're lazy. It's their blatent disregard for localizing so many games over seas. Seriously, where's Disaster? Where's Captain Rainbow? Where's Professor Layton 2 and 3?

Most of these titles are already in english, meaning there is NO excuse to not localize them.

Dingerious

[QUOTE="Dingerious"]

Honestly, it's not their remakes that are the reason they're lazy. It's their blatent disregard for localizing so many games over seas. Seriously, where's Disaster? Where's Captain Rainbow? Where's Professor Layton 2 and 3?

Most of these titles are already in english, meaning there is NO excuse to not localize them.

livinitup01

Yes, that one also. Then again, I wouldn't buy Fatal Frame 4 simply because...i mean, c'mon, whose idea was it to NOT use the pointer as the flashlight? That's just plain idiotic.

It's no wonder they are only geared towards the younger crowd they make crappy games and allow the third party games to be the leaders. They will NEVER live up to the big two in which people like me a hardcore gamer can rely on to produce good games that keep up playing for hours. Unlike nintendo who produces one good game every six months. Doesn't seem to take the big two very long to produce good games quickly and why would i care about grammar if nintendo doesn't deserve me taking time to write something good about them. I mean for crying out loud the best system they had was the SNES the systems have been average ever since.

TOADSTOOLTOUR23

Thats sad I don't think nintendo will ever live up to the big two systems especially with games like Halo, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto the list goes on. All they have is Mario and Zelda and the last two games for those were average with the exception of Paper Mario which is a good game. Zelda needs to adjust their controls. TOADSTOOLTOUR23

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="TOADSTOOLTOUR23"]Thats sad I don't think nintendo will ever live up to the big two systems especially with games like Halo, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto the list goes on. All they have is Mario and Zelda and the last two games for those were average with the exception of Paper Mario which is a good game. Zelda needs to adjust their controls. TOADSTOOLTOUR23

I don't think my opinion is a fact i'm just stating my opinion on how disgusted with the system that has been sitting on my tv for over a month untouched due to the lack of good games that have been produced. Even with the virtual console i've beaten all my favorites even after having to send my wii in for a week and having everything erased already done with them. My 360 is been one of the best systems i've ever had so far, and as far as their third parties see how they produce good games compared to those company nintendo signs on making terrible games trying to copy the wii sports game and making their own. Like i said this is simply my opinion i stand by it having spent my hours with games.

The only game on that list would be house of the dead which i do want to try but the others don't sound like a good game. I keep my wii simply for the virtual console games that lead the way for the games of today and they aren't doing to well on probably the greatest feature that is on the big 3 I know sony is screwing it up by not allowing backwards compatibility.

1. You are being a bit lazy with you're grammar. 2. It was either the Wiimakes or nothing. Good games take time to make, and until Pikmen 3, the next Metroid, etc. come out Nintendo released Wiimakes. There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them. Also, these games are drawing in more money for Nintendo to make better games. They are also introducing new gamers to the franchises so that the sequels will sell more when they come out. Finally, the Wiimakes are helping to convert "casuals" who play horrid things like carnival games, into "hardcore" gamers who will support quality titles like the sequels to the Wiimakes. 3. I rest my case.Head_of_games

I dont wanna say that i think they getting lazy, but it might be true. There hasnt been any announcements on the games we want, and that is what bugs me. Just tell us that you makin a Pikimin3, SMG-2, Zelda, Metriod, Starfox, etc... and we will be happy. I dont mind remakes, cause i would like to replay prime 1,2 and pikmini, but i want new games. But what we all need to realize, is nintendo has been doing this the longest, they make tons of amazing games, and i really doubt with the fact they have the #1 system, they are not making the games we want to see. We still have 3+ years to get them.da_chub

I'd like to thank you for touching on the points that I've bolded here. Nintendo isn't being lazy, people. Heck, you could easily make the arguement that it's doing more than anyone this gen, seeing as how it has to keep two super successful systems afloat, with one of them getting next to no quality third party support to keep it going. The problem is that because it's not the games most of the complainers so greatly desire, it is seen as a sign of laziness. I've mentioned it before, but for the sake of this thread, I'll bring it up again. Between now and the end of June, Nintendo will have released eight more games for the Wii and DS combined, excluding WiiWare and DSiWare games. That's two games a month we're talking about here. I'm curious to know how many people actually noticed that when they looked at the list that was released last week. Even if a few of those games are remakes of GCN games, time and effort still have to be dedicated to release as many quality titles in such a span.

However, until Nintendo's "Big Guns" arrive once again, people are going to continue to write the company off as lazy, despite evidence that proves otherwise. As usual, in this "what have you done for ME lately" gaming community that we live in, a lot of things tend to be overlooked in favor of personal preference. :|

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]1. You are being a bit lazy with you're grammar. 2. It was either the Wiimakes or nothing. Good games take time to make, and until Pikmen 3, the next Metroid, etc. come out Nintendo released Wiimakes. There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them. Also, these games are drawing in more money for Nintendo to make better games. They are also introducing new gamers to the franchises so that the sequels will sell more when they come out. Finally, the Wiimakes are helping to convert "casuals" who play horrid things like carnival games, into "hardcore" gamers who will support quality titles like the sequels to the Wiimakes. 3. I rest my case.TX360

Thank you

[QUOTE="TX360"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"]1. You are being a bit lazy with you're grammar. 2. It was either the Wiimakes or nothing. Good games take time to make, and until Pikmen 3, the next Metroid, etc. come out Nintendo released Wiimakes. There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them. Also, these games are drawing in more money for Nintendo to make better games. They are also introducing new gamers to the franchises so that the sequels will sell more when they come out. Finally, the Wiimakes are helping to convert "casuals" who play horrid things like carnival games, into "hardcore" gamers who will support quality titles like the sequels to the Wiimakes. 3. I rest my case.TOADSTOOLTOUR23

Thank you

So, games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Animal Crossing: City Folk, or Wario Land: Shake It don't ring any bells? They all came out in 2008, along with some other titles Nintendo made (just for the Wii, mind you). Not to mention the fact that games like Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, and Super Paper Mario came out the year before, so the idea that it takes Nintendo longer to make great games is anything but true. Of course it's going to take time for Nintendo or anyone else to make a great game, so to even suggest that Nintendo is doing something different or wrong is just not true. How quickly great games can be forgotten these days...

[QUOTE="TOADSTOOLTOUR23"]

[QUOTE="TX360"] Really then why do sony and microsoft release quality games 1-2 years but nintendos best effort in 2008 was wii music?Madmangamer364

Thank you

So, games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Animal Crossing: City Folk, or Wario Land: Shake It don't ring any bells? They all came out in 2008, along with some other titles Nintendo made (just for the Wii, mind you). Not to mention the fact that games like Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, and Super Paper Mario came out the year before, so the idea that it takes Nintendo longer to make great games is anything but true. Of course it's going to take time for Nintendo or anyone else to make a great game, so to even suggest that Nintendo is doing something different or wrong is just not true. How quickly great games can be forgotten these days...

Outside of Smash Brothers Brawl which came out in the beginning of last year was amazing and Paper mario good for a few hours and Mario Kart: But Galaxy in my opinion got old real quick. I didn't play wii music but since the summer there hasn't been too many games worth picking up.

1. You are being a bit lazy with you're grammar. 2. It was either the Wiimakes or nothing. Good games take time to make, and until Pikmen 3, the next Metroid, etc. come out Nintendo released Wiimakes. There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them. Also, these games are drawing in more money for Nintendo to make better games. They are also introducing new gamers to the franchises so that the sequels will sell more when they come out. Finally, the Wiimakes are helping to convert "casuals" who play horrid things like carnival games, into "hardcore" gamers who will support quality titles like the sequels to the Wiimakes. 3. I rest my case.Head_of_games

1. That is total BS and you know it!

2. These "Wiimakes" that Nintendo is making could be bought used for cheaper for the Gamecube which can be used on the Wii anyways! The last thing that Nintendo needs to be doing right now is creating MORE hardcore gamers just to leave them dissapointed in a few months! Do you have any idea how many of us hardcore gamers are just sitting here waiting for any positive news for Nintendo to release a good game!? I mean Punch Out 2!? are you kidding me, thats the next "big" game they could make for us? Not something we have all been practically begging Nintendo for for the last year or so? I'm pretty sure Nintendo has the hugest fan base of any game oriented company out there. They have been around forever!

3. They need to be concerned with making quality NEW games. Not remakes of games people can get for cheaper anyways!

I rest my case.

[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"][QUOTE="TOADSTOOLTOUR23"]

Thank you

TOADSTOOLTOUR23

So, games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Animal Crossing: City Folk, or Wario Land: Shake It don't ring any bells? They all came out in 2008, along with some other titles Nintendo made (just for the Wii, mind you). Not to mention the fact that games like Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, and Super Paper Mario came out the year before, so the idea that it takes Nintendo longer to make great games is anything but true. Of course it's going to take time for Nintendo or anyone else to make a great game, so to even suggest that Nintendo is doing something different or wrong is just not true. How quickly great games can be forgotten these days...

Outside of Smash Brothers Brawl which came out in the beginning of last year was amazing and Paper mario good for a few hours and Mario Kart: But Galaxy in my opinion got old real quick. I didn't play wii music but since the summer there hasn't been too many games worth picking up.

Ok, I see your point. Still, what does that have to do with Nintendo being lazy? Once again, what you speak of is a matter of personal preference, not what Nintendo is or isn't doing. Maybe you're not into Wii Music, and that's ok, but it does exist. That means Nintendo has done SOMETHING during that time period in order to develop and release the game. We all have our opinions on the game lineup; heck, I haven't even picked up one of the more recent releases myself, seeing how Mario Kart Wii was the latest release I purchased. Still, I'm aware that just because I haven't bought anything in a while doesn't mean it's Nintendo's fault. Nintendo can't throw out a game every single month to keep everyone satisfied, you know. :P

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]1. You are being a bit lazy with you're grammar. 2. It was either the Wiimakes or nothing. Good games take time to make, and until Pikmen 3, the next Metroid, etc. come out Nintendo released Wiimakes. There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them. Also, these games are drawing in more money for Nintendo to make better games. They are also introducing new gamers to the franchises so that the sequels will sell more when they come out. Finally, the Wiimakes are helping to convert "casuals" who play horrid things like carnival games, into "hardcore" gamers who will support quality titles like the sequels to the Wiimakes. 3. I rest my case.TX360

1. You are being a bit lazy with you're grammar. 2. It was either the Wiimakes or nothing. Good games take time to make, and until Pikmen 3, the next Metroid, etc. come out Nintendo released Wiimakes. There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them. Also, these games are drawing in more money for Nintendo to make better games. They are also introducing new gamers to the franchises so that the sequels will sell more when they come out. Finally, the Wiimakes are helping to convert "casuals" who play horrid things like carnival games, into "hardcore" gamers who will support quality titles like the sequels to the Wiimakes. 3. I rest my case.Head_of_games

i dont know but i'm starting to think that nintendo is getting lazy, because whats up with all the remakes it's the same story same every thing except diffrent controls. For example Pikimin why not just make Pikmin 3, Mario Tennis, etc.

EvilShark94

After reading the other posts, I think people are missing some points. Nintendo has already said they are making Pikmin 3. The number of Wiis sold has already sold more that the number of Game Cubes, so there are a lot of of people that haven't played Pikmin. Instead of allowing Pikmin 3 try to find an audience - like they did with the Fire Emblem for the Wii and fail - they went back to update the originals so that there may be a larger audience for when they release it. When Metroid 3 came out, people were asking if Nintendo would make the first 2 with Wii controls. Nintendo saw a market and did that. Nintendo is currently on a roll and is sitting on the cat bird seat, so they can be a little more cautious with release schedule. If you step back, you may realise the economy isn't doing so well and people are cutting back on spending. It seems like every week we hear of a development studio laying off people or closing. In these times, as a business why would it be a bad idea trying to release games that people may have not had to played before. Sure there are people that will yell, "I can get Pikmin 1 from Gamestop or Ebay." Remember Nintendo doesn't see any of that money. It's not being lazy. It is giving people what they want (Metroid), ensuring a sequel has a chance to be successful (Pikmin), and trying to see see if can make money off of something that did well that not a lot of people played (Tennis, DK). It is a good business strategy. Not lazy.

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]1. You are being a bit lazy with you're grammar. 2. It was either the Wiimakes or nothing. Good games take time to make, and until Pikmen 3, the next Metroid, etc. come out Nintendo released Wiimakes. There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them. Also, these games are drawing in more money for Nintendo to make better games. They are also introducing new gamers to the franchises so that the sequels will sell more when they come out. Finally, the Wiimakes are helping to convert "casuals" who play horrid things like carnival games, into "hardcore" gamers who will support quality titles like the sequels to the Wiimakes. 3. I rest my case.PS2Dude89

1. That is total BS and you know it!

2. These "Wiimakes" that Nintendo is making could be bought used for cheaper for the Gamecube which can be used on the Wii anyways! The last thing that Nintendo needs to be doing right now is creating MORE hardcore gamers just to leave them dissapointed in a few months! Do you have any idea how many of us hardcore gamers are just sitting here waiting for any positive news for Nintendo to release a good game!? I mean Punch Out 2!? are you kidding me, thats the next "big" game they could make for us? Not something we have all been practically begging Nintendo for for the last year or so? I'm pretty sure Nintendo has the hugest fan base of any game oriented company out there. They have been around forever!

3. They need to be concerned with making quality NEW games. Not remakes of games people can get for cheaper anyways!

I rest my case.

There are plenty of Wii owners who missed out on those games either because they didn't have a gamecube, didn't have any system, or had a gamecube but couldn't afford/didn't know about them.Head_of_games

Given the full backwards compatibilty of the Wii, I'm annoyed that they can't just keep the original GameCube games in production - perhaps just with new cover art, squeezing in the Wii logo there somewhere.

But out of curiosity, is the Pikimin game for the Wii a remake of the first game (like with Resident Evil for the GameCube), or just a port (like Resident Evil 4 for the Wii - the same game but with the controls changed and with some bonus features)?

Nintendo isn't lazy, it's greed

They finally found out that they could rerelease games and people would buy them over again

We COULD have new games but instead this is the route they'll take for now.

Nintendo already said they're doing this because they don't like how they sold last gen. This is all about money, Nintendo lost badly last gen and they're making the money back this gen

Nintendo isn't lazy, it's greed

They finally found out that they could rerelease games and people would buy them over again

We COULD have new games but instead this is the route they'll take for now.

Nintendo already said they're doing this because they don't like how they sold last gen. This is all about money, Nintendo lost badly last gen and they're making the money back this gen

Jaysonguy

That makes perfect sense, except for the fact that Nintendo made, not lost, money last gen.

i dont know but i'm starting to think that nintendo is getting lazy, because whats up with all the remakes it's the same story same every thing except diffrent controls. For example Pikimin why not just make Pikmin 3, Mario Tennis, etc.

EvilShark94

I agree partially that the remakes are kinda pointless when a person already played through AND Beat the game but I do see the other side of that too. I personally don't think Nintendo is being lazy, I think they are too busy trying to make new games that people keep bugging them about. Nobody can make the amount of games in one year that is being told they should make. It's too many people complaining about what games Nintendo should make. They will eventually come out with the games so People quit asking for the Obvious. As for Lazy, I'd love to see some of these GS members get out there and make all these games that they are telling Nintendo that they should make. We would probably never see anything come out then. Point being, making games takes time (ALOT OF IT). The games will come out when they want them to. Sorry for the rant.

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Nintendo isn't lazy, it's greed

They finally found out that they could rerelease games and people would buy them over again

We COULD have new games but instead this is the route they'll take for now.

Nintendo already said they're doing this because they don't like how they sold last gen. This is all about money, Nintendo lost badly last gen and they're making the money back this gen

Dingerious

That makes perfect sense, except for the fact that Nintendo made, not lost, money last gen.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Nintendo isn't lazy, it's greed

They finally found out that they could rerelease games and people would buy them over again

We COULD have new games but instead this is the route they'll take for now.

Nintendo already said they're doing this because they don't like how they sold last gen. This is all about money, Nintendo lost badly last gen and they're making the money back this gen

Dingerious

That makes perfect sense, except for the fact that Nintendo made, not lost, money last gen.

[QUOTE="Dingerious"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Nintendo isn't lazy, it's greed

They finally found out that they could rerelease games and people would buy them over again

We COULD have new games but instead this is the route they'll take for now.

Nintendo already said they're doing this because they don't like how they sold last gen. This is all about money, Nintendo lost badly last gen and they're making the money back this gen

alexh_99

That makes perfect sense, except for the fact that Nintendo made, not lost, money last gen.

[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="Dingerious"]

That makes perfect sense, except for the fact that Nintendo made, not lost, money last gen.

Head_of_games

Except the people who want new games

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Exactly. We get to replay awesome games, "Casuals" and former PS2/Xbox owners get to experience them for the first time, and Nintendo makes money. Everyones happy.Jaysonguy

Except the people who want new games

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Exactly. We get to replay awesome games, "Casuals" and former PS2/Xbox owners get to experience them for the first time, and Nintendo makes money. Everyones happy.Arc2012

Except the people who want new games

Yes

Instead of getting first party and third party games users who don't feel like pretending it's 2002 get half the selection

That would probably tick off some users and cause them to tell other people to pick another console over the Wii if they see them in the store

We get to replay awesome games, "Casuals" and former PS2/Xbox owners get to experience them for the first time, and Nintendo makes money. Everyones happy.Head_of_games

One could always just buy the actual games. Unless they're actual remakes and substantially different (and hopefully improved).

[QUOTE="Arc2012"]

They get to play awesome 3rd party titles!

Jaysonguy

Yes

Instead of getting first party and third party games users who don't feel like pretending it's 2002 get half the selection

That would probably tick off some users and cause them to tell other people to pick another console over the Wii if they see them in the store

Wiis sales numbers are surely reflecting this trend.

And to say that nintendo is filling half of the wii's library is a bit much, don't you think?

And more importantly:

Last years big nintendo titles: Brawl, MKWii, WiiFit, Wiimusic, AC:CF - 5 titles

This years big nintendo titles: Punch Out!!!, Wii Sports Resort, S&P2, and I'm going to go ahead and bet that they annouce at least 2 games at E3 (like last year, but it could be more) for the holiday season - 5 titles.

So how are they being lazy again?

Edit: General question, not directed at anyone in particular.