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#1 sonic_spark
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http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=134159

Hm.

Let's get this into the official thread.

8.5

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#2 outworld222
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Whaaaa, I honestly thought after all the hype it woudl at least get a 9.

Disappointing :(

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#3 bob_newman
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Whaaaa, I honestly thought after all the hype it woudl at least get a 9.

Disappointing :(

outworld222

Oh yeah, a .5 makes such a huge difference doesn't it?

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#4 outworld222
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[QUOTE="outworld222"]

Whaaaa, I honestly thought after all the hype it woudl at least get a 9.

Disappointing :(

bob_newman
Oh yeah, a .5 makes such a huge deal doesn't it?

Do you know anything about anything? A game 9.0 or above is a great game. A game in the 8s is okay. Huge difference, no?
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a 8.5 from nintendo power is a horrible score

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#6 raahsnavj
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Score doesn't matter... The content of the review is what I'm wondering...
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#7 Gohansephiroth
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Score doesn't matter... The content of the review is what I'm wondering...raahsnavj

Agreed

Anyway an 8 is not a mediocre score, its good to great. This is part of why i think most sites review systems are messed up since anything below a 9 is considered not awesome by the majority. 6 would be decent and in the middle if there scoring system wasn't out of whack yet most people consider that a flop now, and 1 through 5 don't even get used all that much if at all. Something really needs to change review-wise since the review system is really broken now, and there's no reason anybody shouldn't pick up this game, because that's a pretty good score all things considered.

But like raahsnav said the content within the review is what matters most, since it will lay out the good and bad aspects that matter most to someone looking into the game.

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#8 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="outworld222"]

Whaaaa, I honestly thought after all the hype it woudl at least get a 9.

Disappointing :(

outworld222
Oh yeah, a .5 makes such a huge deal doesn't it?

Do you know anything about anything? A game 9.0 or above is a great game. A game in the 8s is okay. Huge difference, no?

I REALLY hope you're joking because that...I don't even know what to say...you spend too much time on System Wars.
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#9 outworld222
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Score doesn't matter... The content of the review is what I'm wondering...raahsnavj
I'll still wait for other reviews. It could end up still being a 9 or 9.5 at best.
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if i remember well, the reason i stopped reading nintendo power was because any game was given a shallow review and an 8.5 score, no matter how good or bad the game was. there was the lack of content and the absurd price too, but the reviews pissed me off.
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if i remember well, the reason i stopped reading nintendo power was because any game was given a shallow review and an 8.5 score, no matter how good or bad the game was. there was the lack of content and the absurd price too, but the reviews pissed me off.BrunoBRS
Pretty much. I don't care about any official magazine's review.
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#12 FPS1337
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:( I thought it would be 9, but 8.5 is good i guess.

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#13 ImprovedMind
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Wow, the game must really be terrible then. If a Nintendo endorsed magazine gives the game anything less than a 9 then there must be serious issues that are able to eliminate the apparent conflict of interest. I was sitting on the fence about this title, but now it is a definite no.
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#14 LegatoSkyheart
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That's a much better score than a 3/5.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]if i remember well, the reason i stopped reading nintendo power was because any game was given a shallow review and an 8.5 score, no matter how good or bad the game was. there was the lack of content and the absurd price too, but the reviews pissed me off.SaltyMeatballs
Pretty much. I don't care about any official magazine's review.

well it wasn't "official magazine's" fault, it was nintendo power's. i read NGamer (a british one which also happens to have a brazilian counterpart) and their reviews are, in most cases accurate. well, in text. their scores are a bit weird, but if you follow what they said and not the score they gave, you'll have a pretty damn good review.
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#17 InfinityMugen
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Since I had doubts about this game, I cancelled my pre order earlier in the month. I'm waiting for the general consensus when it comes out.

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#18 wiifan001
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Oh, it's just a rating score. The review isn't up yet.
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[QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="bob_newman"] Oh yeah, a .5 makes such a huge deal doesn't it?

Do you know anything about anything? A game 9.0 or above is a great game. A game in the 8s is okay. Huge difference, no?

I REALLY hope you're joking because that...I don't even know what to say...you spend too much time on System Wars.

that's like saying mom and dad, my 85% was very close to an A.
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Had my doubts about it and cancelled my pre order earlier in the month. I'm waiting for overall consensus from gamers when the game comes out.

InfinityMugen
overall consensus seems to be 8.5, which is "great" by gamespot standards.
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[QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="outworld222"] Do you know anything about anything? A game 9.0 or above is a great game. A game in the 8s is okay. Huge difference, no?teknic1200
I REALLY hope you're joking because that...I don't even know what to say...you spend too much time on System Wars.

that's like saying mom and dad, my 85% was very close to an A.

So it's either an A or it's a failure?
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#22 Arc2012
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That's about what I thought just from looking at it. Good, but no where near Prime level.
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#23 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Had my doubts about it and cancelled my pre order earlier in the month. I'm waiting for overall consensus from gamers when the game comes out.

BrunoBRS

overall consensus seems to be 8.5, which is "great" by gamespot standards.

Reviews are nice but I'm waiting for what the average gamer has to say about it. Might give it rent just to be sure.

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#24 LegatoSkyheart
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So it's either an A or it's a failure?wiifan001

You'd be surprised. Before I graduated one kid freaked out because she got a B and was all like "My Mom's going to kill me!" and stuff.

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#25 Raiko101
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Some people take ratings far too seriously. 8.5 is a really great score.
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#26 AmayaPapaya
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Sounds about what I suspected. Other M will probably deliver the AAA experience, but fall short because of the obvious problems it might have.

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#27 roboccs
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[QUOTE="outworld222"]

Whaaaa, I honestly thought after all the hype it woudl at least get a 9.

Disappointing :(

People get too bent out of shape about review scores. Just because someone in the media doesn't like it as much doesn't mean you won't. Plus, people nowadays get bent out of shape if a game isn't a 9 or above. What's wrong with an 8.5??
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Had my doubts about it and cancelled my pre order earlier in the month. I'm waiting for overall consensus from gamers when the game comes out.

InfinityMugen

overall consensus seems to be 8.5, which is "great" by gamespot standards.

Reviews are nice but I'm waiting for what the average gamer has to say about it. Might give it rent just to be sure.

i'm not gonna say you're wrong, but i always wondered why people don't trust the "official reviewers", since the average review score tends to be really close to the average user score. but suit yourself.
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[QUOTE="teknic1200"][QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="outworld222"] Do you know anything about anything? A game 9.0 or above is a great game. A game in the 8s is okay. Huge difference, no?

I REALLY hope you're joking because that...I don't even know what to say...you spend too much time on System Wars.

that's like saying mom and dad, my 85% was very close to an A.

No it isn't. It's nothing like that. This isn't high school, where a grade is set in stone. It's one person's opinion of their experience of the game. Actually no, it's not even that. It's an arbitrary number allocated to the game by one person. How do you quantify what is "good" in a video game, or how much "good" there is in the game? There is no formula for how to score a game, it's entirely opinion. And you don't even know what he said in the review, so how can you assume that the game is just "okay" based on a number? Let me give you a scenario: Here we have a food critic, who just happens to hate lasagna. So he goes to a restaurant and what do they give him? Lasagna. He pans the restaurant and gives them a 1/5, but his review states WHY he gave it that score. So is this score representative of everybody? Should it really matter to anyone who likes lasagna? No, and the same goes for numbers attached to game reviews. It's what is written in the review that should be important, and even that is subject to personal opinion and cannot be taken as truth. Reviews aren't definitive, nor do they represent the views of others. If they were, every review would look exactly the same.
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] overall consensus seems to be 8.5, which is "great" by gamespot standards.BrunoBRS

Reviews are nice but I'm waiting for what the average gamer has to say about it. Might give it rent just to be sure.

i'm not gonna say you're wrong, but i always wondered why people don't trust the "official reviewers", since the average review score tends to be really close to the average user score. but suit yourself.

Because scores don't matter. That is why people don't trust official reviewers - they push scores. The user's score doesn't matter... The info is in the details, not the score.
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#31 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Thats lower then I was expecting from nintendo power, I expect less from Gamespot.:| This just went to my rent list instead of buy. Not the game I was hoping it would be.:(

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#32 Fusionmix
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Other M will fail. The horrible voice acting, vapid story, and clumsy controls (D-pad? Really?) will all contribute to its downfall.

/flame shield

But seriously, this will be the second Metroid in a row I don't buy.

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#33 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="InfinityMugen"] Reviews are nice but I'm waiting for what the average gamer has to say about it. Might give it rent just to be sure.

raahsnavj

i'm not gonna say you're wrong, but i always wondered why people don't trust the "official reviewers", since the average review score tends to be really close to the average user score. but suit yourself.

Because scores don't matter. That is why people don't trust official reviewers - they push scores. The user's score doesn't matter... The info is in the details, not the score.

well the score is the attempt to resume the quality of the game (better expressed on text) in a simple 2-digit number. if a game is getting 8.5s everywhere, then you don't have to wait for text reviews/opinions to know that it is, in fact, good. but if you're waiting for something different, like a certain part of the gameplay or something on the controls, then you're right, numbers won't help.

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#34 LegatoSkyheart
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Other M will fail. The horrible voice acting, vapid story, and clumsy controls (D-pad? Really?) will all contribute to its downfall.

/flame shield

But seriously, this will be the second Metroid in a row I don't buy.

Fusionmix

8.5 = Fail? :|

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#35 chocolate1325
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I was concerned by it a little bit but an 8.5 is not a bad score most games on the Wii have an 8.5 like Metroid Prime 3 and New Super Mario Bros Wii.

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#36 Gorillanator
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An 8.5 is a great score. These next four days will be torture.

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#37 KungfuKitten
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Nintendo power =/= automatic high grades. Anyway if this scores 8.5+ across reviewers then this is a huge success. They completely turned metroid inside out, which is a huge gamble. It's not that easy to think of a new success formula and make it work.

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[QUOTE="teknic1200"][QUOTE="bob_newman"] I REALLY hope you're joking because that...I don't even know what to say...you spend too much time on System Wars.wiifan001
that's like saying mom and dad, my 85% was very close to an A.

So it's either an A or it's a failure?

It's either excellent or par for the course. the difference is that one is near the top and the other is lost in the field. i don't care much for scores, but there is a difference between 85 and 90 is all with 90 putting something into an elite field while 85 "has such great potential". :P
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#39 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Nintendo power =/= automatic high grades. Anyway if this scores 8.5+ across reviewers then this is a huge success. They completely turned metroid inside out, which is a huge gamble. It's not that easy to think of a new success formula and make it work.

KungfuKitten
This is why if It only got a 8.5 at nintendo power, I am worried. I know 8.5 is not a bad score but I expected higher from them, I expect much lower here, I also expect alot of mixed reviews. It may be a love it hate it game.
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#40 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Nintendo power =/= automatic high grades. Anyway if this scores 8.5+ across reviewers then this is a huge success. They completely turned metroid inside out, which is a huge gamble. It's not that easy to think of a new success formula and make it work.

Advid-Gamer

This is why if It only got a 8.5 at nintendo power, I am worried. I know 8.5 is not a bad score but I expected higher from them, I expect much lower here, I also expect alot of mixed reviews. It may be a love it hate it game.

Well it has at least one very obvious flaw and that is d-pad controls in 3D space. That alone will cause scores to disperse a little.
I just know I really want to learn more about Samus, so.. I get this anyway.

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#41 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] overall consensus seems to be 8.5, which is "great" by gamespot standards.BrunoBRS

Reviews are nice but I'm waiting for what the average gamer has to say about it. Might give it rent just to be sure.

i'm not gonna say you're wrong, but i always wondered why people don't trust the "official reviewers", since the average review score tends to be really close to the average user score. but suit yourself.

Will do. It's not the score I'm focusing on but what the gamer has to say about the game. Regular gamers arent paid to do reviews and can sometimes give a more honest depiction on the games they play. Not to say professional reviews arent credible but at times I feel they can be out of touch and judge games on standards most wouldnt care about. If I want to watch a movie I may be interested in, I'd rather get the opinion from a friend who watched it rather than read a professional's opinion on the matter. I'm weird like that :P

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#42 bob_newman
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the average review score tends to be really close to the average user score.BrunoBRS

Not true. That's not usually the case on the Wii, especially with niche titles with dedicated followers like this.

Here are just a few examples on Metacritic:

Arc Rise Fantasia:

Reviewers: 62

Users: 78

Fragile:

Reviewers: 67

Users: 80

Conduit:

Reviewers: 69

Users: 84

Kororinpa:

Reviewers: 69

Users: 95

Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom:

Reviewers: 85

Users: 94

Monster Hunter:

Reviewers: 84

Users: 92

No More Heroes 2:

Reviewers: 84

Users: 92

Trauma Center: New Blood:

Reviewers: 77

Users: 95

Pro Evolution Soccer 2010:

Reviewers: 82

Users: 97

deBlob:

Reviewers: 82

Users: 92

Dawn of Discovery:

Reviewers: 81

Users: 93

MadWorld:

Reviewers: 81

Users: 90

Muramasa:

Reviewers: 81

Users: 92

A Boy and his Blob:

Reviewers: 80

Users: 95

Toki Tori:

Reviewers: 79

Users: 92

Rune Factory:

Reviewers: 79

Users: 88

House of the Dead: Overkill:

Reviewers: 78

Users: 93

Fire Emblem:

Reviewers: 78

Users: 90

Pikmin:

Reviewers: 77

Users: 93

Klonoa:

Reviewers: 77

Users: 92

Endless Ocean 2:

Reviewers: 76

Users: 93

Dokapon Kingdom:

Reviewers: 72

Users: 90

Deadly Creatures:

Reviewers: 72

Users: 91

Mushroom Men:

Reviewers: 72

Users: 95

Tenchu:

Reviewers: 70

Users: 91

Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility:

Reviewers: 65

Users: 93

NiGHTS:

Reviewers: 69

Users: 89

Overlord:

Reviewers: 68

Users: 84

Tales:

Reviewers: 68

Users: 84

Cursed Mountain:

Reviewers: 67

Users: 79

One Piece:

Reviewers: 67

Users: 95

FFCC:

Reviewers: 66

Users: 89

Spore Hero:

Reviewers: 61

Users: 87

Pokemon Rumble:

Reviewers: 59

Users: 89

Sonic Riders:

Reviewers: 56

Users: 82

Onechanbara:

Reviewers: 55

Users: 86

Quantum of Solace:

Reviewers: 54

Users: 84

Baroque:

Reviewers: 50

Users: 84

Tournament of Legends:

Reviewers: 45

Users: 75

Brothers in Arms:

Reviewers: 45

Users: 72

The Grudge:

Reviewers: 39

Users: 60

Valhalla Knights:

Reviewers: 35

Users: 73

There are a lot more examples but I think you get the idea. Reviewers do not always represent the fans.

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#43 TheFallenDemon
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It's a good thing I stopped treating Nintendo Power reviews with credibility ten years ago!. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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It's a good thing I stopped treating Nintendo Power reviews with credibility ten years ago!. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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What you expect higher?
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#45 Pixel-Perfect
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Well it has at least one very obvious flaw and that is d-pad controls in 3D space. That alone will cause scores to disperse a little.

KungfuKitten

Which is something a reviewer will probably care about and I won't. :P

So yeah, the content and personal preferences means more than the score to me. That said, I dunno why everyone's so upset about an 8.5. I mean, I could understand if you'd been hyped for something for a year and half and it got a 7 or so, but 8.5 is a good score.

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#46 madsnakehhh
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Other M will fail. The horrible voice acting, vapid story, and clumsy controls (D-pad? Really?) will all contribute to its downfall.

/flame shield

But seriously, this will be the second Metroid in a row I don't buy.

Fusionmix

Your loss i guess, because for me, this is going to be the...actually i lost count.

So, Nintendo Power give it 8.5 and suddenly is the worst game of the year??? right, i wonder what would happend if they give it a 9.5 or more, i know, people would be like, i don't trust them, they always inflate scores :|

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#47 Fusionmix
Member since 2010 • 1656 Posts

[QUOTE="Fusionmix"]

Other M will fail. The horrible voice acting, vapid story, and clumsy controls (D-pad? Really?) will all contribute to its downfall.

/flame shield

But seriously, this will be the second Metroid in a row I don't buy.

madsnakehhh

Your loss i guess, because for me, this is going to be the...actually i lost count.

So, Nintendo Power give it 8.5 and suddenly is the worst game of the year??? right, i wonder what would happend if they give it a 9.5 or more, i know, people would be like, i don't trust them, they always inflate scores :|

I've been burned by too many Nintendo Power review scores to pay attention to them anymore. The cringe-worthy trailers were enough.
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#48 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]the average review score tends to be really close to the average user score.bob_newman

Not true. That's not usually the case on the Wii, especially with niche titles with dedicated followers like this.

Here are just a few examples on Metacritic:

Arc Rise Fantasia:

Reviewers: 62

Users: 78

Fragile:

Reviewers: 67

Users: 80

Conduit:

Reviewers: 69

Users: 84

Kororinpa:

Reviewers: 69

Users: 95

Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom:

Reviewers: 85

Users: 94

Monster Hunter:

Reviewers: 84

Users: 92

No More Heroes 2:

Reviewers: 84

Users: 92

Trauma Center: New Blood:

Reviewers: 77

Users: 95

Pro Evolution Soccer 2010:

Reviewers: 82

Users: 97

deBlob:

Reviewers: 82

Users: 92

Dawn of Discovery:

Reviewers: 81

Users: 93

MadWorld:

Reviewers: 81

Users: 90

Muramasa:

Reviewers: 81

Users: 92

A Boy and his Blob:

Reviewers: 80

Users: 95

Toki Tori:

Reviewers: 79

Users: 92

Rune Factory:

Reviewers: 79

Users: 88

House of the Dead: Overkill:

Reviewers: 78

Users: 93

Fire Emblem:

Reviewers: 78

Users: 90

Pikmin:

Reviewers: 77

Users: 93

Klonoa:

Reviewers: 77

Users: 92

Endless Ocean 2:

Reviewers: 76

Users: 93

Dokapon Kingdom:

Reviewers: 72

Users: 90

Deadly Creatures:

Reviewers: 72

Users: 91

Mushroom Men:

Reviewers: 72

Users: 95

Tenchu:

Reviewers: 70

Users: 91

Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility:

Reviewers: 65

Users: 93

NiGHTS:

Reviewers: 69

Users: 89

Overlord:

Reviewers: 68

Users: 84

Tales:

Reviewers: 68

Users: 84

Cursed Mountain:

Reviewers: 67

Users: 79

One Piece:

Reviewers: 67

Users: 95

FFCC:

Reviewers: 66

Users: 89

Spore Hero:

Reviewers: 61

Users: 87

Pokemon Rumble:

Reviewers: 59

Users: 89

Sonic Riders:

Reviewers: 56

Users: 82

Onechanbara:

Reviewers: 55

Users: 86

Quantum of Solace:

Reviewers: 54

Users: 84

Baroque:

Reviewers: 50

Users: 84

Tournament of Legends:

Reviewers: 45

Users: 75

Brothers in Arms:

Reviewers: 45

Users: 72

The Grudge:

Reviewers: 39

Users: 60

Valhalla Knights:

Reviewers: 35

Users: 73

There are a lot more examples but I think you get the idea. Reviewers do not always represent the fans.

wow... i... i actually feel sorry you looked up all those examples yourself (unless metacritic made a new one of those, just for wii games and with that many examples), just a couple would have convinced me. but anyway, excluding the last third, the differences never stray from more than 2 points (aproximately), and it's usually from "well it's good" to "hey it's great", not from "well it's good" to "OH MY GOD IT SUCKS". since i was talking about a more bland overlook at the general quality of the game (which is exactly what scores are for), i think it still applies. unless you're looking for something as "different" as baroque.
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#49 SoraX64
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if i remember well, the reason i stopped reading nintendo power was because any game was given a shallow review and an 8.5 score, no matter how good or bad the game was. there was the lack of content and the absurd price too, but the reviews pissed me off.BrunoBRS
That's because they have a ton of reviews in each issue. They only do big write-ups about games that score very well.
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#50 Warship_19
Member since 2010 • 1565 Posts

a 8.5 from nintendo power is a horrible score

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There were proably just being generous.