[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Mario galaxy 2 is right around the corner yet the first one is still at a 50 dollar price tag...kontejner44
Did the economy really hit that hard?
Well considering he is closing in on his 40th Wii game I think it is actually lol
Yes..., The price of not limiting your self to one console is expensive... All I'm saying is why doesn't nintendo lower there prices? The other platforms did it.
If your game is still selling well, would you reduce its price and thus ultimately not make as much profit as you could?
Fightingfan
Mario galaxy 2 is right around the corner yet the first one is still at a 50 dollar price tag... Like I said. If your game is still selling well and making a good amount of profit, would you reduce its price and thus make less profit then you potentially could?
Well considering he is closing in on his 40th Wii game I think it is actually lol
Yes..., The price of not limiting your self to one console is expensive... All I'm saying is why doesn't nintendo lower there prices? The other platforms did it. Oh sure, so Nintendo should just follow everyone like a sheep. High price leads to profit, you know that.
The other platforms need to in order to compete with Nintendo, things like Player Choice are a a "Buy Me" plea. They don't need to do that since their game and console is selling. Galaxy 1's price will obviously drop with the release of Galaxy 2, just like Uncharted 1 went down in price a few weeks before Uncharted 2 came out.
Well considering he is closing in on his 40th Wii game I think it is actually lol
LastRambo341
Yes..., The price of not limiting your self to one console is expensive... All I'm saying is why doesn't nintendo lower there prices? The other platforms did it. Oh sure, so Nintendo should just follow everyone like a sheep. High price leads to profit, you know that.
So you are pro-choice when it comes to paying 50 bucks for a game? Pshh, It took 2 years into this gen to finally pay 60 bucks for a ps3 game.
The other platforms need to in order to compete with Nintendo, things like Player Choice are a a "Buy Me" plea. They don't need to do that since their game and console is selling. Galaxy 1's price will obviously drop with the release of Galaxy 2, just like Uncharted 1 went down in price a few weeks before Uncharted 2 came out.
Sepewrath
Ahh, true I never thought of it this way. Forgot Nintendo is Jugger-naunt for the industry.
Then don't buy it. Who's forcing you? Different companies, different strategies. Maybe you should start asking why Nintendo still hasn't made an HD console yet. The one thing they responded to was the price cut of the consoles themselves since it would really hurt them. As for software, it seems there's no problem there since they're still selling.
Then don't buy it. Who's forcing you? Different companies, different strategies. Maybe you should start asking why Nintendo still hasn't made an HD console yet. The one thing they responded to was the price cut of the consoles themselves since it would really hurt them. As for software, it seems there's no problem there since they're still selling.
greenarcher02
Yes, yes they are forcing me. How can I obtain nintendo games without paying for them? Atleast where I can get a "legit" copy.
Nintendo has definitely turned more into a corporation who's main priority is to turn profit for its shareholders ever since Iwata took over from Yamauchi. Still, Iwata did return nintendo to its former glory. At least i'm getting that feeling, since the production cost of some games is really low and yet they get more profit than the combined word wide sales of toilet paper, just look at NSMBW, it could have been a lot better - but why make it better and use money in the process while they can release it just the way it is and still earn a lot. (still it's a great game, no doubt)
^lol Nintendo ever since they were making cards was a company whose priority was making profit, in fact every companies priority is making profit(providing your not a non-profit organization) Your crazy if you think it has ever been any different for anyone. And the whole it could have been better, everything COULD be better, My favorite team can have a season where they only lose one game, but they COULD have a perfect season.
^lol Nintendo ever since they were making cards was a company whose priority was making profit, in fact every companies priority is making profit(providing your not a non-profit organization) Your crazy if you think it has ever been any different for anyone. And the whole it could have been better, everything COULD be better, My favorite team can have a season where they only lose one game, but they COULD have a perfect season. Sepewrath
A companies priority should not be to only turn profit, Nintendo was different 10 years ago and even more different 20 years ago..
I rather just buy used or wait for clearances, than get it cheaper but with a ugly box. Remember the Player's Choice line on the GC with the huge yellow stripes? Ugh.
There have been a few price drops that I'v noticed. Like MP3 for $40 and TP for $50. Those were only 10 bucks but still. Mario will likely go down soon due to Galaxy 2. Nintendo games sell slower but more consistent from the other consoles. NSMBW is still top 10 but MW2 is nowhere to be seem
[QUOTE="XenoLair"]A companies priority should not be to only turn profit, Nintendo was different 10 years ago and even more different 20 years ago..GabuEx
Evidence?
Where are the nintendo comics, adventure books, nintendo's characters were in animes and cartoons. Im sure they arent making stuff like that anymore cause it didnt turn much of a profit though. I think NSMBW would have been better if made before Wii.
[QUOTE="XenoLair"]A companies priority should not be to only turn profit, Nintendo was different 10 years ago and even more different 20 years ago..GabuEx
Evidence?
No I would ask common sense? The only difference between Nintendo now and Nintendo a decade ago is the are back to their accustomed position in the market. That is all. They always have and always will be driven by profit, this is not a starving artist routine, its a business and the only way to keep a business running is through money.
Where are the nintendo comics, adventure books, nintendo's characters were in animes and cartoons. Im sure they arent making stuff like that anymore cause it didnt turn much of a profit though. I think NSMBW would have been better if made before Wii.XenoLair
I don't understand how the creation of those things indicates that Nintendo was not at the time as interested in turning a profit as they are today. I mean, those were basically stealth advertisements.
I wouldn't even call it stealth advertisement, Nintendo made no effort to hide the fact that they were using every available avenue to advertise. You know why they advertise? Because they wanted to make money.
I wouldn't even call it stealth advertisement, Nintendo made no effort to hide the fact that they were using every available avenue to advertise. You know why they advertise? Because they wanted to make money.Sepewrath
Well they were stealth advertisements in that the message of "BUY THE RELATED GAMES PLZ" was implicit rather than explicit.
before this gen started ninty talked about the strategies used to sell games. the other model is based on the big selling blockbuster ideal. it needs to sell millions in days or it looses shelf life and usually goes to a cheaper players choice type thing 6 months later. this gen ninty decided to try and give games a longer shelf life. as they see it the age of a game is irrelevant to its price...if a game was worth 50 quid to them at launch then they think it should still be worth 50 quid. they consider the blockbuster model to be wasteful. im not sure its quite worked mind. are older games like galaxy and TP still selling?
well, i dont care too much about that, other than the price cut, this is why i buy used games, when they get oldere they get really cheap,much cheaper than the new copies.
Nintendo has definitely turned more into a corporation who's main priority is to turn profit for its shareholders ever since Iwata took over from Yamauchi. Still, Iwata did return nintendo to its former glory. At least i'm getting that feeling, since the production cost of some games is really low and yet they get more profit than the combined word wide sales of toilet paper, just look at NSMBW, it could have been a lot better - but why make it better and use money in the process while they can release it just the way it is and still earn a lot. (still it's a great game, no doubt)XenoLair
Nintendo has always been about profit. I'm sorry you fooled yourself into thinking otherwise, but Nintendo has never made games just because they want to put a smile on your face. Not on the NES, not on the SNES, and not now. The smile on your face is a nice bonus on the side, all they ever really cared about was whether or not you opened your wallet, which made them smile. Any company in this business who made games just to put a smile on your face, with profits as an afterthought, hasn't stayed in the business very long at all. If Nintendo had not been about profits all those years ago, they'd be where Sega is right now. Sorry, but that's just simple reality. Cold as it is, we have to deal with it.
[QUOTE="XenoLair"]A companies priority should not be to only turn profit, Nintendo was different 10 years ago and even more different 20 years ago..GabuEx
Evidence?
10 to 20 years ago Nintendo was more like Sony is today. At lunch they where selling consoles more powerful than the last ones at a lost and they had more quality tittles from third partys. I AM NOT A TROLL AND I DON'T HAVE INTENTIONS TO CAUSE A SYSTEM WAR DEBATE HERE TO GET BAN FROM MODS HERE but the truth about Nintendo this gen is they really are ripping off all of us customers.
The Wii is basically an minor upgrade from the GameCube, most GameCube games look better than the ones from the Wii, almost all third party games suck, they don't have an online system like the PS3 or 360, they have taken a lot of time to lunch games like Mario Galaxy and have took an eternity to lunch the next Zelda. From the start they promised the wii was going to be more powerful than the original Xbox and right now at the moment the only game to demostrate this is Mario Galaxy and the upcoming sequel, they promise a revolution with motion controls telling us even in the official Nintendo magazine imposible possibilitys like exact movement detections.
The worst part they charge us $39.99 for a Remote, $19.99 for just a stick and now $19.99 for a motion plus accessorie. That's $60.00 dollars per controllers that even need batterys wile the competition have controllers with more buttons, two sticks and integrated batterys that can be charged . In my opinion the GameCube had more quality games available in less time. Sure this gen Nintendo franshises games are better but last gen they had more variety and more third party quality games.
[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]^lol Nintendo ever since they were making cards was a company whose priority was making profit, in fact every companies priority is making profit(providing your not a non-profit organization) Your crazy if you think it has ever been any different for anyone. And the whole it could have been better, everything COULD be better, My favorite team can have a season where they only lose one game, but they COULD have a perfect season. XenoLair
A companies priority should not be to only turn profit, Nintendo was different 10 years ago and even more different 20 years ago.. Actually the Wii and DS are cIassic Nintendo.
Eh, its not as bad as you think, their is a balancing factor, its called third party titles.
3rd party titles on the Wii drop in price quicker and faster than anything I have ever seen on any console before!
So sure 1st party titles may be a little rough with price drops but with how fast and steep the 3rd party ones end up dropping I think your still getting a great discount overall on Wii software.
And sure buttons are more expensive than accelerometers and gyroscopes. You're talking about the graphics only. Not taking into account the medium used, controllers, etc. If you're going to compare a console, factor everything in.
Do you know the PlayStation Move?
Do you know Microsoft charges so much for HDD's and Flash Drives?
"they promised the wii was going to be more powerful than the original Xbox and right now at the moment the only game to demostrate this is Mario Galaxy and the upcoming sequel,"
That proves that the Wii IS more powerful than the original Xbox, nobody just uses it. And don't start on TP, it was a GC game.
"Sure this gen Nintendo franshises games are better"
The reason why they don't cut prices. You just said it.
Anyone remember the "greatest hits" for the nintendo platform?
revofanboy2005
Thats because there's like, 5 good games for the wii. Cant have graetest hits if the games suck and dont sell well.
There are 81 games that average an 80 or more on Metacritic, and 150 more that average between 70 and 79, so I'm kind of curious how you're defining "good".
Anyone remember the "greatest hits" for the nintendo platform?
GabuEx
Thats because there's like, 5 good games for the wii. Cant have graetest hits if the games suck and dont sell well.
There are 81 games that average an 80 or more on Metacritic, and 150 more that average between 70 and 79, so I'm kind of curious how you're defining "good".
In this context I'm defining a "good" game as not only a game that appeals to me personally, but one that has both commercial and critical merit. Just because a game is reviewed well doesn't mean it'll sell or that it will appeal to a large group of people. I think games like beyond good and evil illustrate that perfectly. "greatest hits" games are ones that generally sell well and have at least a decent amount of critical acclaim. The only games I could see fitting that description on the wii are twilight princess, galaxy, smash bros, new super mario brothers, and maybe MP3.
Nintendo are just trying to make more money and as much as I hate the prices it's smart of them because Nintendo know people are willing to pay the price for the game especially if it's a Mario game. I think it's best if you buy the game on release I remember getting Super Mario Galaxy for £29.99 around release then it went up to around £39.99 and stores are still selling it for around £34.99.
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