Nintendo's First Girl Game On Wii - Will Pikmin Be Successful?

[QUOTE="everlong12"]

If I may ask a side question. Why is Pikmin considered a "game for girls"?

Darth_Nater307

[QUOTE="chang_1910"]

Lets face it when Jaysonguy have something stuck in his head there is nothing that would make him reconsider or even open to a "maybe"... after all he for some reason always ignore some of the post. Maybe mine and some others were just the reason that may make him otherwise.

Dingerious

He doesn't get random things stuck in his head, it's more like just one thing. Check out his other threads and ask yourself what they all have in common when posted in the wii forums:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26786021

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26791502

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26762133

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26741184

There's a common theme here if you can spot it.

[QUOTE="Darth_Nater307"][QUOTE="everlong12"]

If I may ask a side question. Why is Pikmin considered a "game for girls"?

nintendoman562

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"][QUOTE="Darth_Nater307"] I must ask the same thing.darth-pyschosis

He was being sarcastic.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="nintendoman562"]Pikmin was inspired by Miyamoto's hobby for gardening. All girls do outside of the kitchen is garden so it makes sense.Dingerious

He was being sarcastic.

[QUOTE="Darth_Nater307"][QUOTE="everlong12"]

If I may ask a side question. Why is Pikmin considered a "game for girls"?

nintendoman562

Like others have been saying, I see no evidence of Nintendo making some kind of dramatic shift in Pikmin to make it a "girl game." Goodmorning Japan discussing it has absolutely no relevance here and if it does I'm really not clear on that so if you could explain that a bit more that would be great.

And I've never played it, so what exactly makes Super Princess Peach a "girl game" other than the fact that it has a very gender stereotypical character in the leading role?

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"][QUOTE="Darth_Nater307"] I must ask the same thing.clicketyclick

Yes, we strong, intelligent men can't leave girls alone with gardening tools. They might get hurt!

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="nintendoman562"]Pikmin was inspired by Miyamoto's hobby for gardening. All girls do outside of the kitchen is garden so it makes sense.Dingerious

Yes, we strong, intelligent men can't leave girls alone with gardening tools. They might get hurt!

As far as I know, male gamers weren't turned off from the original, nor did they think of it as a girl game. In theory, the same should happen here, unless, as Jordan said, the game is heavily advertised toward women. Even then, I doubt that would sway many male gamers away from buying. Even if you're right, and Play on Wii Pikmin is a girl game, no one but you thinks of it that way. The main character is male, and the game doesn't appear "girly" at all. You just can't compare it to SPP in that way and expect sales to be similar.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]Jaysonguy refuted his argument that Pikmin is a game "for girls".Jaysonguy

Nintendo said it's for girls and obviously the journalists in Japan say it's for girls since they did a story on the game that only involved girls

So yeah, I have no idea where you think I'm saying anything against it

Pikmin is not a game just for girls.

Men can enjoy Pikmin as well.

I don't see how a game can be a "girls" game or a "boys" game.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Well Nintendo sees girls drawn to the title but they didn't give the reasons

The person on Good Morning Japan said it's because the game ties in with the "motherly instinct"

Jaysonguy

That's what I'm thinking too lol

I think he means more along the fact that you're supposed to keep as many safe as you can to accomplish all your objectives

Saying that Pikmin is for girls is like saying Pokemon is for girls. Except pokemon would make A LOT more sense. Let's see why shall we?

1. You stated that Pikmin appeals to girls more because of 'motherly instinct" towards the Pikmin. Well in Pokemon you RAISE and BREED Pokemon. You make them HAPPY you LOVE them. You HEAL them and NURSURE them when they are hurt. That sounds more motherly to me than Pikmin.

2. You said that games for girls are toned down, well just play five minutes of Pokemon and you will see my point.

3. Also, just because toys based on a certain series are bought a lot from girls doesn't mean the game is for girls. Im sure that 80% of the girls who bought those Pikmin toys have never played a Pikmin game. They probably just said: "Ahhhhhhhhhhh these little critters are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo CUTE!"

Also I want to add im a huge Pokemon fan so yeah.... long live Pokemon!

Just to point something out, play several hours of Pokemon and you'll realize quite a bit of strategic depth is required (hence why there's a huge field of competitive play for the game). For some reason, I feel I might have accidentally made a point.

Wow. I'm currently playing Pikmin 2 and I haven't found it girly at all, but I guess that girls look at it in a different way. I can guarantee you that the mayority of Pikmin players are male. What really worries me, though, is that they may consider toning down the game just to make it more likeable for girls, making Pikmin fans disappointed (which is pretty common with Nintendo). I just hope they leave the Pimin games as they are and make both genders happy.

Just to point something out, play several hours of Pokemon and you'll realize quite a bit of strategic depth is required (hence why there's a huge field of competitive play for the game). For some reason, I feel I might have accidentally made a point.

Boomarley

Nintendo thinks the market is saturated enough to release their first game for girls

Jaysonguy

The rest of your article should be talking about Animal Crossing.

But don't take my word for it!

Pikmin is a 'girls game'? I have the first one but never played it. Since I'm a 'girl' I guess I should just buy this one :|.

Pikmin has already proved its success but I don't understand why this will appeal so much to girls.

Im a girl and I love pikmin but I know plenty of guys who like it too..

I wouldn't say its just a girls game :P same for super princess peach

Pikmin is a 'girls game'? I have the first one but never played it. Since I'm a 'girl' I guess I should just buy this one :|.

Pikmin has already proved its success but I don't understand why this will appeal so much to girls.

princesszelda

I think it's a game that can appeal just fine to women. But it doesn't appeal to women because of their gender.

I have the first one but never played it. Since I'm a 'girl' I guess I should just buy this one :|.

princesszelda

Sarcastic or not, that is the worst reason to buy the remake.

You already own the game, why invest more money into an unknown quantity?

[QUOTE="princesszelda"]

I have the first one but never played it. Since I'm a 'girl' I guess I should just buy this one :|.

SirSpudly

Sarcastic or not, that is the worst reason to buy the remake.

You already own the game, why invest more money into an unknown quantity?

Sarcasm, people. Sarcasm.

Sarcasm -a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark

This won't end well.

_BlueDuck_

Is everyone forgetting that the Pikmin are flowers?

Actually, Miyamoto takes his real life experiences and puts them into his games. He loves his garden and imagined what it would be like if the garden was alive. But Nintendo found that a lot of girls enjoyed the first game and put a heavier emphasis on flowers in the sequel (ie, more colors).

Is everyone forgetting that the Pikmin are flowers?

Actually, Miyamoto takes his real life experiences and puts them into his games. He loves his garden and imagined what it would be like if the garden was alive. But Nintendo found that a lot of girls enjoyed the first game and put a heavier emphasis on flowers in the sequel (ie, more colors).

bob_newman

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

Is everyone forgetting that the Pikmin are flowers?

Actually, Miyamoto takes his real life experiences and puts them into his games. He loves his garden and imagined what it would be like if the garden was alive. But Nintendo found that a lot of girls enjoyed the first game and put a heavier emphasis on flowers in the sequel (ie, more colors).

clicketyclick

So you think the sequel to Pikmin is Pikmin 3? Where does 2 fit into that? Prequel?bob_newman

Hold on now, the opening cutscene of Pikmin 2 gives away that it is directly the sequel to the first game.

There is no guessing as to which happened first.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="bob_newman"]

Is everyone forgetting that the Pikmin are flowers?

Actually, Miyamoto takes his real life experiences and puts them into his games. He loves his garden and imagined what it would be like if the garden was alive. But Nintendo found that a lot of girls enjoyed the first game and put a heavier emphasis on flowers in the sequel (ie, more colors).

bob_newman

Pikmin 2 is a remake. So you're saying the one on GC was targeted at women? Because there were so many women with a GC of course...

what Ninty seems to have been saying is that they were surprised by the unusual amount of female gamers playing Pikmin, so they decided to bring it to Wii. It's not that they changed anything about the game or made the game originally for women.