No NMH for other consoles. Suda stays on Nintendo

Remember when everyone asumed Suda51 was moving NMH franchise to other consoles due to wii limitations?Nothing farther from the truth.

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=97604

I guess older NMH might get ported to other consoles, but wont get sequels. Most likely tho, i think NMH will stay as the benchmark of highest mature rated wii game.

He better start actually adding substance in his games, instead of just "style". Games are meant to be played; not watched.

He better start actually adding substance in his games, instead of just "style". Games are meant to be played; not watched.

HipYoungster42

Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

I think the word "shovelware" has officially become meaningless as of this moment.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!GabuEx

I think the word "shovelware" has officially become meaningless as of this moment.

I agree with Hip/Psycho on this... (even though I wouldn't consider it shovelware)

I love Suda's artists, but the game overall just felt like one big "blah" and empty... I couldn't even finish it, and NMH was a game I was completely hyped for.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!wiifan001

Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

This is excellent news, for whatever reason. Though I'm disappointed to hear that Travis's story is finished in Desperate Struggle.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!GabuEx

I think the word "shovelware" has officially become meaningless as of this moment.

From Encarta:

shovelware

shov·el·ware [ shúvv'l wèr ]

noun

Definition:

poor quality software: software or material that is put on the Web or on a CD-ROM indiscriminately without regard for its appearance or usefulness ( informal )

The definition fitsNo More Heros perfectly.

He better start actually adding substance in his games, instead of just "style". Games are meant to be played; not watched.

HipYoungster42

i dont see how that is diffrent from all those graphicsz games this gen

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

gotta love SW,

i remember those cows and lemmings got excited when they though it would come to their consoles xD

I love Suda's artists, but the game overall just felt like one big "blah" and empty... I couldn't even finish it, and NMH was a game I was completely hyped for.

danger_ranger95

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] say what? No More Heroes is shovelware?Vexx88

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

your wrong, it isnt on the other consoles cuz it isnt a FPS ;)

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!GabuEx

I think the word "shovelware" has officially become meaningless as of this moment.

Broken games aren't shovelware anymore?

From Encarta:

shovelware

shov·el·ware [ shúvv'l wèr ]

noun

Definition:

poor quality software: software or material that is put on the Web or on a CD-ROM indiscriminately without regard for its appearance or usefulness ( informal )

The definition fitsNo More Heros perfectly.

psychobrew

The game currently averages an 8.3 among critics and an 8.5 among users.

You don't get to call a game shovelware just because you personally don't like it.

Broken games aren't shovelware anymore?

Jaysonguy

Shovelware has become synonymous with "games I don't like". When games that are widely critically well-received and enjoyed by the vast majority of gamers are deemed shovelware, yes, the word has officially lost all meaning. It has become nothing more than a pet label used by those who wish to dismiss a game.

Which is bad, because that makes it impossible to discuss or refer to the games that actually are shovelware.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

From Encarta:

shovelware

shov·el·ware [ shúvv'l wèr ]

noun

Definition:

poor quality software: software or material that is put on the Web or on a CD-ROM indiscriminately without regard for its appearance or usefulness ( informal )

The definition fitsNo More Heros perfectly.

The game currently averages an 8.3 among critics and an 8.5 among users.

You don't get to call a game shovelware just because you personally don't like it.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

From Encarta:

shovelware

shov·el·ware [ shúvv'l wèr ]

noun

Definition:

poor quality software: software or material that is put on the Web or on a CD-ROM indiscriminately without regard for its appearance or usefulness ( informal )

The definition fitsNo More Heros perfectly.

psychobrew

The game currently averages an 8.3 among critics and an 8.5 among users.

You don't get to call a game shovelware just because you personally don't like it.

Arent you the one who defends The Conduit as a good game?

Oh the irony..

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] say what? No More Heroes is shovelware?DeadEndPanda

your wrong, it isnt on the other consoles cuz it isnt a FPS ;)

I don't know about it. I didn't play and not interested on the first one but I'm interested on the sequel. I don't see a shovelware there. Shovelware are more like Hannah Montana, Superman 64, ET on Atari, Rig Racer 2, ...

[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"] The game is obviously not good enough for other systems. If it were good enough, it would be on them.Communistsheep

your wrong, it isnt on the other consoles cuz it isnt a FPS ;)

which?

OoT?

GTA?

SMG?

oya :O

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!GabuEx

I think the word "shovelware" has officially become meaningless as of this moment.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

The game currently averages an 8.3 among critics and an 8.5 among users.

You don't get to call a game shovelware just because you personally don't like it.

TaMuK711

Arent you the one who defends The Conduit as a good game?

Oh the irony..

Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"] I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.JebranRush

Arent you the one who defends The Conduit as a good game?

Oh the irony..

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

The game currently averages an 8.3 among critics and an 8.5 among users.

You don't get to call a game shovelware just because you personally don't like it.

Arent you the one who defends The Conduit as a good game?

Oh the irony..

I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.psychobrew

But that's what I'm saying. Why not just say "I don't like it", when that is what you're really saying? Why do you need to call it "shovelware" when the vast majority of the population clearly enjoys it and finds it a quality game? All that does is render the term meaningless and impedes communication.

[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"] I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.psychobrew

Arent you the one who defends The Conduit as a good game?

Oh the irony..

Your so opinionated. It isn't shovelware. Shovelware means crappy games, and NMH is far from that. If The Conduit isn't shovelware than NMH isn't, The Conduit was a huge letdown.

[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"] I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.psychobrew

Arent you the one who defends The Conduit as a good game?

Oh the irony..

Not to me, so that means its shovelware. It was designed like an N64 game with glitched out AI and broken online, which fits the definition of shovelware.

See what I did there?

Shovelware means crappy games

randomwiiplayer

It doesn't even just mean that; it refers to a game that not only is bad, but which the developer obviously knew was bad and released it anyway just to cash in on the back of something much more successful. A game that happens to be bad, but which still hopes to sell on its own merits, is not shovelware.

A game has to be more than just bad for it to be shovelware. A game that is bad... is a bad game.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.GabuEx

But that's what I'm saying. Why not just say "I don't like it", when that is what you're really saying? Why do you need to call it "shovelware" when the vast majority of the population clearly enjoys it and finds it a quality game? All that does is render the term meaningless and impedes communication.

Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

:roll: Have you played the game?...

I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.psychobrew

But that's what I'm saying. Why not just say "I don't like it", when that is what you're really saying? Why do you need to call it "shovelware" when the vast majority of the population clearly enjoys it and finds it a quality game? All that does is render the term meaningless and impedes communication.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]Yay!! More shovelware for the Wii!!!psychobrew

Really? The guys in system wars was drooling for it and will be very sad they do not get it:cry:

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.psychobrew

But that's what I'm saying. Why not just say "I don't like it", when that is what you're really saying? Why do you need to call it "shovelware" when the vast majority of the population clearly enjoys it and finds it a quality game? All that does is render the term meaningless and impedes communication.

LMAO, so sales = quality? Your credibility just fluttered out the window.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]I personally don't need a review to tell me if a game is good or not, but to each his own. One man's trash is another man's treasure, but whatever your treasure is the definition of shovelware that I linked to above is a great fit for the game.psychobrew

But that's what I'm saying. Why not just say "I don't like it", when that is what you're really saying? Why do you need to call it "shovelware" when the vast majority of the population clearly enjoys it and finds it a quality game? All that does is render the term meaningless and impedes communication.

That only makes it unpopular, though. There are plenty of games out there that are made on a low budget and don't sell (your remarks about a lack of regard for appearance and being pointless is merely from your perspective, however), but that don't classify them as shovelware, or even as bad games. I can understand if you don't like it and/or think it's simply a game focused on style and nothing else, but I think it's safe to say that you're going overboard about all of this. Personally, I have no interest in this series myself, but I think it has some qualities to classify itself in a class above that of a game that was mindlessly being pushed onto a system with no intention of being a decent gaming experience.

That said, I suppose it's ok that Suda wants to continue to make this series for Nintendo systems, but I'm also one of those people who want to see this series (and Suda's games, in particular) to evolve from the idea that being unique and edgy is enough. No disrespect, but this guy's work is always niche for a reason, and a large part has to do with the fact that you have to be part of a certain crowd to get the most enjoyment out of his games. I'm not saying that he should sugarcoat his work or add rainbows and ponies to make his games more appealing, but perhaps applying a little more diversity (which in this case would probably mean thinking more inside the box) would do well to compliment the art style of most of his games.

It's a poor quality game (low budget, no regard for appearance, and generally pointless).psychobrew

Nooo, it really isn't. The people who played it are widely in agreement that it was an enjoyable, quality game.

The vast majority of the population clearly did not care enough for the game to even buy it.psychobrew

Wait, what? Are you asserting that a game with comparatively low sales can only be in that situation because it is low quality? :?

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

But that's what I'm saying. Why not just say "I don't like it", when that is what you're really saying? Why do you need to call it "shovelware" when the vast majority of the population clearly enjoys it and finds it a quality game? All that does is render the term meaningless and impedes communication.

LMAO, so sales = quality? Your credibility just fluttered out the window.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]It's a poor quality game (low budget, no regard for appearance, and generally pointless).GabuEx

Nooo, it really isn't. The people who played it are widely in agreement that it was an enjoyable, quality game.

The vast majority of the population clearly did not care enough for the game to even buy it.psychobrew

Wait, what? Are you asserting that a game with comparatively low sales can only be in that situation because it is low quality? :?

I didn't say that, but you do bring up a good point. Quality games usually sell decently if for no other reason than word of mouth. That does not mean the highest quality games are always the best selling, but for such a critically acclaimed game and all the free marketing that comes along with it, you would have expected sale to be much better than they were. Obviously, it wasn't an interesting game to most people.psychobrew

Maybe more games would have been sold at a higher price if they advertised there games so that people knows that it exist before it drops to 20$.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] say what? No More Heroes is shovelware?Vexx88

Don't forget Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, Red Steel, Mario Kart Wii, Twilight Princess and Wario Ware.