No Talk Of Wii Successor Until 45 Million Wii Units Sold In U.S.

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#1 Tri-Enforcer
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Well lets start buying extra Wiis or get people we know, who don't have a Wii, to get a Wii! Cuz Reggie will allow at least 'talk' of the Wii sucessor when the Wii's install base hits 45 million. So far it sits at 30 million...still aways to go. That just tells me that the successor will be available holiday 2012 on par with most guestimates.

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=142247

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#2 bob_newman
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Well I guess we'll never see a successor because the Wii will never reach 45 million units in the US.

He's full of it.

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#3 elbert_b_23
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i hate Reggie so much he doesn't care about nintendo or video games just making money, i have to wonder if he'll retract this quote like when he was jiimy falon show a few months back and said that the 3ds would be out before next year
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Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

NoA has almost zero power or influence on Nintendo. So what Reggie says always has to be taken with a grain of salt. And I still am calling for a holiday 2011 release of the next console

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#5 elbert_b_23
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Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

NoA has almost zero power or influence on Nintendo. So what Reggie says always has to be taken with a grain of salt. And I still am calling for a holiday 2011 release of the next console

LaytonsCat
i doubt next year because nintendo is putting everything they have with the 3ds and trying to get all of the developers behind that they want to focus all into that for the first year its out, the 3ds is nintendo's most ambitious handheld todate
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#6 LordQuorthon
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Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

LaytonsCat

Reggie plays a much, much more important role than all the previous Nintendo of America presidents put together. Reggie was hired when Iwata started thinking about disruptive strategies, and Reggie was chosen BECAUSE he had more experience on the subject than anyone else at Nintendo's headquarters in Kyoto.

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#7 JuarN18
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Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...LaytonsCat
he never said he will release the console, he just said he will talk about it, something he can do
i hate Reggie so much he doesn't care about nintendo or video games just making moneyelbert_b_23
how do you know that?
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#8 Jaysonguy
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Well I guess we'll never see a successor because the Wii will never reach 45 million units in the US.

He's full of it.

bob_newman

Thank you very much

These panic statements come out of nowhere these days

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#9 meetroid8
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It'll be released holiday 2012.
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#10 elbert_b_23
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[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...JuarN18
he never said he will release the console, he just said he will talk about it, something he can do
i hate Reggie so much he doesn't care about nintendo or video games just making moneyelbert_b_23
how do you know that?

he has said more then once things like" inless a game sell over a million copies its not worthwhile" thats why there is a bit of nintendo published games that are not one of nintendo's characters that we will never see in n/a
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#11 AmayaPapaya
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That means it has to sell a 3rd of it's total life time sales so far. That is very far away:?

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#12 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="JuarN18"]he never said he will release the console, he just said he will talk about it, something he can do [QUOTE="elbert_b_23"]i hate Reggie so much he doesn't care about nintendo or video games just making moneyelbert_b_23
how do you know that?

he has said more then once things like" inless a game sell over a million copies its not worthwhile" thats why there is a bit of nintendo published games that are not one of nintendo's characters that we will never see in n/a

If a game flops nintendo will lose money in distribution costs, that's better for nintendo! that's a logical business move

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Well I guess we'll never see a successor because the Wii will never reach 45 million units in the US.

bob_newman

why not? sure it's slowing down, but hey, it's "only" 15 million.

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A similar DS/Wii launch we'll see with 3DS and Wii 2 around the same time frame from one another
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[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

Well I guess we'll never see a successor because the Wii will never reach 45 million units in the US.

BrunoBRS

why not? sure it's slowing down, but hey, it's "only" 15 million.

well it took 4 years to get 30 million..... that means at the least it will take another two years to get to 45. but taking into account how the sales are slowing down, it may not happen.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

Well I guess we'll never see a successor because the Wii will never reach 45 million units in the US.

alexh_99

why not? sure it's slowing down, but hey, it's "only" 15 million.

well it took 4 years to get 30 million..... that means at the least it will take another two years to get to 45. but taking into account how the sales are slowing down, it may not happen.

3 more years, taking in consideration the slowdown?
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[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

LordQuorthon

Reggie plays a much, much more important role than all the previous Nintendo of America presidents put together. Reggie was hired when Iwata started thinking about disruptive strategies, and Reggie was chosen BECAUSE he had more experience on the subject than anyone else at Nintendo's headquarters in Kyoto.

\

true but Reggies an ant and NoJ is a Human

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[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] why not? sure it's slowing down, but hey, it's "only" 15 million.

BrunoBRS

well it took 4 years to get 30 million..... that means at the least it will take another two years to get to 45. but taking into account how the sales are slowing down, it may not happen.

3 more years, taking in consideration the slowdown?

I wouldn't mind a 2013 release there are still some games that they can put out for the wii. *cough* Pikmin 3 *cough*

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="alexh_99"] well it took 4 years to get 30 million..... that means at the least it will take another two years to get to 45. but taking into account how the sales are slowing down, it may not happen. Minishdriveby

3 more years, taking in consideration the slowdown?

I wouldn't mind a 2013 release there are still some games that they can put out for the wii. *cough* Pikmin 3 *cough*

i was thinking more starfox... nintendo still owes me a refined version of assault's multiplayer with online. now THAT is a shooter i'd buy.
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i hate Reggie so much he doesn't care about nintendo or video games just making money, i have to wonder if he'll retract this quote like when he was jiimy falon show a few months back and said that the 3ds would be out before next yearelbert_b_23
all compaines only care for money that all compaines even retial.
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#21 OreoMilkshake
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Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

LaytonsCat
He decides when it comes out in the U.S.
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i hate Reggie so much he doesn't care about nintendo or video games just making money, i have to wonder if he'll retract this quote like when he was jiimy falon show a few months back and said that the 3ds would be out before next yearelbert_b_23

Oh noes! A businessman in a capitalist economy cares about making money! Shame on him for not being an idiot!

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#23 Minishdriveby
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[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] 3 more years, taking in consideration the slowdown?BrunoBRS

I wouldn't mind a 2013 release there are still some games that they can put out for the wii. *cough* Pikmin 3 *cough*

i was thinking more starfox... nintendo still owes me a refined version of assault's multiplayer with online. now THAT is a shooter i'd buy.

Yep, that was another game I was thinking of. I'd also like it if Nintendo would do more with Motion +; it's weird of them to be pushing out a product to enhance games and then never using it themselves on any of their big games except Zelda.

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#24 wiifan001
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In six days it will have been officially 4 years of the Wii's release in the U.S, and has sold 30 million, and the Wii sales will continue to slow down squirmfully after the holiday season. This business strategy is illogical.
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#26 thomasward00
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By late summer to next Christmas, Nintendo will drop the regular Wii price to 129 and offer a full HD Wii for 199... The Wii's worldwide sales sits at nearly 76 million units with the 360 at 44, that is an insurmountable difference that cannot be overcome in this generation.
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#27 sonic_spark
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Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

NoA has almost zero power or influence on Nintendo. So what Reggie says always has to be taken with a grain of salt. And I still am calling for a holiday 2011 release of the next console

LaytonsCat

It's impossible that it will come out in 2011. Expect Holiday 2012 at the earliest.

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#28 gamenerd15
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I don't know why people even want new ones. I still haven't played hardly anything in the gaming world because of school. I wouldn't mind waiting another 4 to 5 years for another system, but I know they all will come out before then. We don't need better graphics, we already have good enough controllers, there really is no reason to upgrade. I would rather companies focus on different stories and different ways of making genres fun. We already have all the genres there will ever be. New hardware is not the answer to average games that are out there. Developers are now producing quality work on all 3 systems, I wouldn't want them to have to start all over again when they are now pulling off some great stuff. I would rather have 3 more years that are equal to 2010 in terms of software than for Nintendo to come out with a brand new system and the games be lackluster because developers have to learn what it can do. All Nintendo needs to do is issue an update and get rid of friend codes and promote its peripherals more and they would be fine. Nintendo made motion plus, the balance board, and wii speak but the company does not promote it. The big evolutions in gaming are done. What else do we need from our games?

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#29 redlightstudios
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Wow.....just wow......

These statements are such rubbish sometimes. When the sales slow down to the point of major disappointment is when the new console will be discussed. It doesn't have anything to do with "we'll talk when it hits our mark."

That would be like them saying "we're not discussing a new Mario game until its the best selling Mario to date."

Not to mention, I still think the Wii will be supported after a new console is released just like the NES and PS2 prior their upgrades being released.

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#30 painguy1
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lol good luck with doing that.

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#31 darth-pyschosis
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I'm hoping for fall 2011 or at least a spring 2012

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#32 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

NoA has almost zero power or influence on Nintendo. So what Reggie says always has to be taken with a grain of salt. And I still am calling for a holiday 2011 release of the next console

sonic_spark

It's impossible that it will come out in 2011. Expect Holiday 2012 at the earliest.

Its more likely than you think, with the gen extended by move and kinect they could release a console comparable to the hd twins and no one would notice, sell it for $250-$299, get multiplats and more 3rd party support going strong into when MS and Sony launch new products in 2013 and have a huge headstart.

Sales are slowing down, quite a bit. It fits their usual timeline, and what do they really have left on tap for Wii that are system sellers? Pikmin?

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"] I wouldn't mind a 2013 release there are still some games that they can put out for the wii. *cough* Pikmin 3 *cough*

Minishdriveby

i was thinking more starfox... nintendo still owes me a refined version of assault's multiplayer with online. now THAT is a shooter i'd buy.

Yep, that was another game I was thinking of. I'd also like it if Nintendo would do more with Motion +; it's weird of them to be pushing out a product to enhance games and then never using it themselves on any of their big games except Zelda.

That is what they do, after all. Balance Board, Expansion Pack, Rumble Pack (both N64 and DS), Tilt devices like on GBA, N64 DD, among others. Heck the VS may be Dead on Arrival for all we know

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#34 pierst179
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By the time the Wii gets to 45 million, if it ever does that, Sony and MS will be well into their next gen cycle. I am pretty sure Nintendo will want to have their next console out before that.

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I think he's talking out of his...ear. ;)

It was either Cammy or Reggie that said they have their next console ready, it was just a matter of judging the market for it's release. I wish I could find the quote so I could link it.

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I think he's talking out of his...ear. ;)

It was either Cammy or Reggie that said they have their next console ready, it was just a matter of judging the market for it's release. I wish I could find the quote so I could link it.

DDRMom

Well, Miyamoto said another console would come out when developers run out of ideas for the current hardware. Which makes me believe everyone at Nintendo has their own take as to when the next console will come out. I like Miyamoto's better.

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Well, Miyamoto said another console would come out when developers run out of ideas for the current hardware. Which makes me believe everyone at Nintendo has their own take as to when the next console will come out. I like Miyamoto's better.Pierst179

Given that, I think it's safe to assume no one knows and we should trust nothing until we get an official announcement.

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#38 teknic1200
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Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

NoA has almost zero power or influence on Nintendo. So what Reggie says always has to be taken with a grain of salt. And I still am calling for a holiday 2011 release of the next console

LaytonsCat
if that was the case we'd know about it already. I'm thinking 2012, which should put the next nintendo console ahead of the other two in terms of power. much has changed in the computer world over the last few years.
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wii successor specs IMO

4GHz CPU, 750MHz GPU 4 GB ram@3GHz, 200GB HDD 1080p output on everything

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[QUOTE="Pierst179"]Well, Miyamoto said another console would come out when developers run out of ideas for the current hardware. Which makes me believe everyone at Nintendo has their own take as to when the next console will come out. I like Miyamoto's better.DDRMom

Given that, I think it's safe to assume no one knows and we should trust nothing until we get an official announcement.

I hope that we have Wii for many more years. We don't need a new console.
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#41 sonic_spark
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[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

Well Reggie doesn't decide when the next gen console comes out so...

NoA has almost zero power or influence on Nintendo. So what Reggie says always has to be taken with a grain of salt. And I still am calling for a holiday 2011 release of the next console

darth-pyschosis

It's impossible that it will come out in 2011. Expect Holiday 2012 at the earliest.

Its more likely than you think, with the gen extended by move and kinect they could release a console comparable to the hd twins and no one would notice, sell it for $250-$299, get multiplats and more 3rd party support going strong into when MS and Sony launch new products in 2013 and have a huge headstart.

Sales are slowing down, quite a bit. It fits their usual timeline, and what do they really have left on tap for Wii that are system sellers? Pikmin?

1. It's not as simple as an "HD" upgrade. What most people are proposing is a new console with entirely new specs. Sure, Nintendo could make it backwards compatible, use the same controllers and all that jazz, but Nintendo isn't Sega circa 1994. Nintendo is not going to just add an upgrade, they'll release an entirely new console.

2. They're not going to release a console at the same time they're releasing a new generation Handheld. Despite the fact that one is a handheld and one is a console, they'll compete. How will they compete you ask? They'll compete with customers wallets. And Nintendo doesn't want to compete with themselves.

3. They have to announce with enough time to alert stock holders. Nintendo is a publicly traded company. There is no way they're going to make a huge announcement at e3 and then turnaround and say, oh yeah it's ready. This also applies to giving devs development kits, which none have been issued yet. So the timing is completely off.

4. Nintendo has lost 25% of their Wii sales, which has already been discussed thoroughly by Michael Pacher (financial analyst) that there was no way that Nintendo could possibly sustain those kind of levels. And in fact, he stated they're selling normallyright now. You can watch Pach Attack on Gametrailers.

So there, it's impossible for a 2011 release. Unless Nintendo turns around in January and says, here comes Wii 2. Which they won't, because they're too busy prepping for the 3DS launch.

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#42 sonic_spark
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[QUOTE="DDRMom"]

I think he's talking out of his...ear. ;)

It was either Cammy or Reggie that said they have their next console ready, it was just a matter of judging the market for it's release. I wish I could find the quote so I could link it.

Pierst179

Well, Miyamoto said another console would come out when developers run out of ideas for the current hardware. Which makes me believe everyone at Nintendo has their own take as to when the next console will come out. I like Miyamoto's better.

Well, considering he spear headed the development of the Wii, and was previously involved in most of the other consoles, Miyamoto is definitely a safe bet to trust what he says.

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#43 Mario_DSi
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Yeah, 2013 sounds reasonable.