Ok. This is just stupid.

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#1 NullCelot
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Alright. I just bought a wii points card, and purchased Super Mario 3. After Playing it for awhile, I wanted to see whaat negative things gamespot might say.

They took off points for the game becuase it Lacks the extra levels and audiovisual upgrades from the SNES and GBA remakes.

Those games were remakes. They came after the original game came out. Thats no different than saying, Final fantasy I doesnt have the same HD graphics as the anneversary adition. What the should have said was, the SNES version wasnt avalible, or something like that.

please note that this doesnt make me upset, just concerned. does gamespot do this just to lower the amount of 10 rated games?

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#2 Head_of_games
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Well the thing is that they could have added in those extra things with very little effort so there really isn't any excuse for releasing only the original. My guess is that they are saving that stuff for a true SM3 remake.
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#3 dotWithShoes
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Well the thing is that they could have added in those extra things with very little effort so there really isn't any excuse for releasing only the original. My guess is that they are saving that stuff for a true SM3 remake.Head_of_games
And if they had done that it wouldn't have been the SMB3 for the NES would it? It would have been the remake for the SNES, and therefore would have cost more. The point the VC is not to re-release updated versions of classics.. but to release the classics are they were done to start with
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#4 MFmotion
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I agree with you I was quite worried about this because there are some games that deserve the 10 like this wonderful game (sigh), and others that have the 10 and don't deserve them :x. May be you're right gamespot doesn't want to have a lot of games with 10 and change the game scores without good reasons.

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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Well the thing is that they could have added in those extra things with very little effort so there really isn't any excuse for releasing only the original. My guess is that they are saving that stuff for a true SM3 remake.dotWithShoes
And if they had done that it wouldn't have been the SMB3 for the NES would it? It would have been the remake for the SNES, and therefore would have cost more. The point the VC is not to re-release updated versions of classics.. but to release the classics are they were done to start with

I agree. The point was clearly to release SMB3 in it's perfect classic untouched form, the way it was meant to be. VC games are hard to review because if you review them by todays standards they don't hold up so well, however, if you review them in the light of nostalgia then all those classics would get a perfect 10. The game got a 9 because the editor wanted to show you that his review was unbiased. I think...
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#7 Rod90
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Long live Super Mario!!
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#8 maxgil2
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why bother reviewing VC games? ..weren't they alredy reviewed before?...& bloody obvious its not gonna hold up well by todays standard. :roll:
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#9 clicketyclick
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Well the thing is that they could have added in those extra things with very little effort so there really isn't any excuse for releasing only the original. My guess is that they are saving that stuff for a true SM3 remake.dotWithShoes
And if they had done that it wouldn't have been the SMB3 for the NES would it? It would have been the remake for the SNES, and therefore would have cost more. The point the VC is not to re-release updated versions of classics.. but to release the classics are they were done to start with

Well then the argument is, as with other VC games, that they released the inferior version.
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#10 Thiago26792
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Yeah, I don't really like gs reviews, tbh.
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Well the thing is that they could have added in those extra things with very little effort so there really isn't any excuse for releasing only the original. My guess is that they are saving that stuff for a true SM3 remake.clicketyclick
And if they had done that it wouldn't have been the SMB3 for the NES would it? It would have been the remake for the SNES, and therefore would have cost more. The point the VC is not to re-release updated versions of classics.. but to release the classics are they were done to start with

Well then the argument is, as with other VC games, that they released the inferior version.

Not inferior, the original version.. there was no other version for the NES. Therefore, the ONLY version for the NES. The game on the SNES was a remake, not the same game.. atleast, thats how my brain was seeing it when I was reading what you posted. Don't think it translated well to my post though :(
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#12 clicketyclick
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] And if they had done that it wouldn't have been the SMB3 for the NES would it? It would have been the remake for the SNES, and therefore would have cost more. The point the VC is not to re-release updated versions of classics.. but to release the classics are they were done to start with

Well then the argument is, as with other VC games, that they released the inferior version.

Not inferior, the original version.. there was no other version for the NES. Therefore, the ONLY version for the NES. The game on the SNES was a remake, not the same game.. atleast, thats how my brain was seeing it when I was reading what you posted. Don't think it translated well to my post though :(

There are, as I understand it, multiple versions on different platforms. Regardless of price point (because that's an entirely different consideration) they released the inferior (i.e. less content/not as good graphics) version. People were debating about this when Earthworm Jim came out.
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#13 evrdayblues
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Inferior is subjective when it comes to this... Worse graphics means nothing if you want "those" graphics. A perfect example is Megaman 9. If it had updated graphics and sound, it would not be as appealing to retro gamers and nostalgia hunters. Nostalgia has no price to some people, and SMB3 in its NES incarnation is worth it's cartridge size in gold to many fans. But I don't even know what I'm arguing for anymore!
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#14 everlong12
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When I think of classics I think of the orignal. Its like the movie The Last Man on Earth. That came out in the 50s. In the 70s they released a remake called Omega Man and in modern times they call those same movies I Am Legend. Omega Man is not the classic version of I Am Legend, The Last Man on Earth is the classic of both. SMB3 may have had other versions of it but the classic version is the most lacking of them all and I agree with that.The main objective of the Virtual Console, as I've come to understand it, is to bring new players and old players alike the classic versions of games. So regardless of the version being released is inferior or lacking, it is still what Nintendo was promising us.
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#15 nintendo-4life
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GS was in a very tough spot these past few years. Hopefully they would have cured all their problems this year and deliver it's much loved (and missed for a while) quality reviews, hopefully in time too!
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#16 blankshore
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I was REALLY concerned when they gave Super Mario World an 8.5! They said themselves that it's one of the greatest platformers ever made. They said the only reason they took points off was because people may already own it on one system or another...but shouldn't they just be rating the game based on how good it is? That game's a 10 in my book.
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#17 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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I kinda wished they would just bring out Super Mario All-Stars anyway, it was probably one of the best games ever released for the SNES.