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#1 19061980
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I received my newest issue of ONM UK today and in it there is their Punch-Out!! review.

They begin by detailing the game. They talk about how the Minor, Major and World circuits only take about 1h 30m/2h to finish. They say at this point they were going to give it 70%. Then the "World B" circuit is unlocked, and the whole game becomes much harder and more exciting. All fighters get new move sets and will do things like fakes etc. They say on this mode, the first time they fought Glass Joe, they lost. They say this should take you about 5/6 hours.

They go on to talk about exhibition mode. Here you can fight any fighter you have already beaten but with extra challenges like "defeat Von Kaiser in 5 punches". This mode is supposedly "insanely hard".

They go on to talk about multiplayer, but basically say it's a waste of time.

Quotes of interest:

""There's a two-player mode but if we're being honest it's the weakest aspect of the game. It's fun when you... transform into Giga Mac... but overall it's nowhere near as entertaining as the single-player modes."

"And the final surprise will please everyone, but we're sworn to secrecy on that..."

Summary:

+ Looks absolutely incredible

+ Boxers ooze character

+ C1as.sic Punch-Out!! gameplay

+ Easy for noobs, hard for pros

- Multiplayer mode is weak

Final Score:91%

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#2 Brawl578
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Nice.

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#3 kardine
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Great, another game besides LKS getting positive reviews. Hope this sells well.
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#4 C-Lee
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Nice Calling an 8.5 or an 8.0 here
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#5 wiifan001
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Positive review, but the question of the game being shallow still remains for me.
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#6 Hungry_Homer111
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I've been a bit uneasy about this game, because while it did seem interesting, I wasn't sure it would be worth the extra money that I could just spend on the first two games. This does make me more interested in the game, but I want to see more reviews from websites and magazines that don't have Nintendo in their name before I become too excited. :P
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#7 SoAmazingBaby
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WTH bad multiplayer. Damn :( Now i'm probably not getting this.
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#8 SMR-Venom
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Got 8.5 on Nintendo Power too.
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#9 evildevil97
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Of course the multiplayer is bad... NLG said months ago that it was just a minor feature in the game. So, they lost to Title Defense Glass Joe, eh? That makes things interesting all by itself...
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#10 clicketyclick
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I wonder how it would score if Nintendo's name wasn't on it...
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#11 JordanElek
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WTH bad multiplayer. Damn :( Now i'm probably not getting this.SoAmazingBaby
It was kinda predictable. In fact, a lot of fans of the series had no expectation for a multiplayer mode in the first place, and some of us were even so bold as to say that it definitely wouldn't have any multiplayer functionality. Obviously we were wrong. Most people who wanted multiplayer had never played the originals, so they thought it was your average boxing game, in which multiplayer is just a natural addition. However, having one-on-one human fighters takes away much of the appeal of Punch Out - quirky characters, tells (especially), various special moves, etc., while you (as Little Mac) are limited to simple punches and a single power move. You're grossly out-matched by most of the fighters... putting the opposition on equal footing takes that away, which is probably why they added the Giga Mac powerup.

With that said, this multiplayer looks fun for a little while, but it wouldn't add that much to the game. That's what this reviewer says, so I won't be surprised at all if I (and most people) end up agreeing with him. But it's nice as an option, considering it sounds like the single-player game didn't need to be compromised.

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I wonder how it would score if Nintendo's name wasn't on it...clicketyclick

Probably around the same, provided that the game was just as good. Honestly, I didn't think I would hear such a response like that from you. Being one of those people that have hyped 2009's Wii lineup, I figured this would be a positive thing for you. Granted, I know very little about the ONM, but I want to think that it's not that biased to only give Nintendo games a great score (of course, it wouldn't be the first time a game has gotten a score much better than it deserved, but still...). Heck, Nintendo Power gave Madworld a 9 recently, and while I've had my questions with Punch-Out, I can't exactly say I've seen a lot of bad things out of it.

Can't say I'm much more hyped about the game than I was before reading this, but maybe it is worth at least a rental, provided I can find it.

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#13 clicketyclick
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Probably around the same, provided that the game was just as good. Honestly, I didn't think I would hear such a response like that from you. Being one of those people that have hyped 2009's Wii lineup, I figured this would be a positive thing for you.Madmangamer364
Only Ninty can get away with putting out such a short game with awful multiplayer that's basically an old game regurgitated exactly and still get a great score. Only Nintendo. Hell, ONM was prepared to give it a respectable 70% when they thought the game was only 1.5 hours long. Boxers ooze character? No, they ooze stereotypes. Same classic gameplay? Yup, same outdated arcade gameplay. Easy for noobs, hard for pros? So there are entire modes in the game only accessible to "pros" and the "noobs" are stuck with a 1-5 hour game.
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#14 Jimmi323
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I wonder how it would score if Nintendo's name wasn't on it...clicketyclick
[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]Probably around the same, provided that the game was just as good. Honestly, I didn't think I would hear such a response like that from you. Being one of those people that have hyped 2009's Wii lineup, I figured this would be a positive thing for you.clicketyclick
Only Ninty can get away with putting out such a short game with awful multiplayer that's basically an old game regurgitated exactly and still get a great score. Only Nintendo. Hell, ONM was prepared to give it a respectable 70% when they thought the game was only 1.5 hours long. Boxers ooze character? No, they ooze stereotypes. Same classic gameplay? Yup, same outdated arcade gameplay. Easy for noobs, hard for pros? So there are entire modes in the game only accessible to "pros" and the "noobs" are stuck with a 1-5 hour game.

This is the direction I'm leaning... I'm really not sure how I will like this game.
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#15 evildevil97
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Only Ninty can get away with putting out such a short game with awful multiplayer that's basically an old game regurgitated exactly and still get a great score. Only Nintendo. clicketyclick
How can you honestly refer it to "an old game regurgitated exactly" when it has as many new modes of play as it does? Title Defense, Exhibition (with achievements), the "final surprise" ONM mentioned. None of those were in any of the previous games. (Except maybe Title Defense, which appeared in some form on the arcade titles)
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#16 funsohng
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sweet, maybe i should pre-order this bad boy soon. i never was interested in multiplayer anyway
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#17 Pikminmaniac
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Positive review, but the question of the game being shallow still remains for me.wiifan001

If this game is anything like Super Punch Out!! on the SNES, it is EXTREMELY deep. You keep finding out faster and faster ways to take down opponents. I have spent at least an Hour on each boxer in time attack with Super Punch Out. There are manny subtle complexities to each fighter

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#18 GabuEx
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Only Ninty can get away with putting out such a short game with awful multiplayer that's basically an old game regurgitated exactly and still get a great score. Only Nintendo.clicketyclick

That's because only Nintendo can do that and have the game be awesome in the process.

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#19 LordQuorthon
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"]Nice Calling an 8.5 or an 8.0 here

Nah. More like 6.5 because of the lack of Mii integration, no online co-op, no zombies, no downloadable content and having too many colors.
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#20 Madmangamer364
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[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]Probably around the same, provided that the game was just as good. Honestly, I didn't think I would hear such a response like that from you. Being one of those people that have hyped 2009's Wii lineup, I figured this would be a positive thing for you.clicketyclick
Only Ninty can get away with putting out such a short game with awful multiplayer that's basically an old game regurgitated exactly and still get a great score. Only Nintendo. Hell, ONM was prepared to give it a respectable 70% when they thought the game was only 1.5 hours long. Boxers ooze character? No, they ooze stereotypes. Same classic gameplay? Yup, same outdated arcade gameplay. Easy for noobs, hard for pros? So there are entire modes in the game only accessible to "pros" and the "noobs" are stuck with a 1-5 hour game.

Wow, this thread is becoming more shocking by the post. I agree that the jump from 70% to 91% was a nice shock to the system, but is it possible that this "old game" that Nintendo "regurgitated" became more enjoyable and replayable as more things were unlocked? I don't think it would be the first time that has happened, and I don't think only Nintendo has managed to pull it off. As for everything else, it just sounds like a lot of sour grapes from where I stand, which is strange, because I usually see you as the "wait and play" type when it comes to this. Already dismissing the game's characters as stereotypes, pretty much making claims that the game is stuck in the past, and jumping on the game's difficultly and who can play makes it sound like you already have this game figured out. Coming from you, especially, it just feels... odd.

In any case, you're entitled to your own opinion, so I'm not mad at you or anything for expressing it. That's a major reason why we're here, afterall. I don't know... I just didn't expect such a response, I suppose. :|

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#21 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"]Nice Calling an 8.5 or an 8.0 hereLordQuorthon
Nah. More like 6.5 because of the lack of Mii integration, no online co-op, no zombies, no downloadable content and having too many colors.

Also it is difficult. We all know Gamespot hates a challenge

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#22 AlexSays
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I wonder how it would score if Nintendo's name wasn't on it...clicketyclick
Yeah I wonder that about Twilight Princess too. But we're talking about Punch Out here.
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#23 Gohansephiroth
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pretty good score and it sounds like they noted some solid points about the game too, I never expected multiplayer to amount to anything so that's no surprise its not very good. But losing to glass joe? now I'm very intrigued about the title defense mode.

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#24 funsohng
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[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"][QUOTE="C-Lee"]Nice Calling an 8.5 or an 8.0 herePikminmaniac

Nah. More like 6.5 because of the lack of Mii integration, no online co-op, no zombies, no downloadable content and having too many colors.

Also it is difficult. We all know Gamespot hates a challenge

and i dont think this game has chainsaws, blood, or guns. calling 5.5
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#25 kardine
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I''ll be honest, right now this game is looking like it did not live up to my ridiculous expectations. I wanted a compendiun of old school nostalgia mixed with modern day features to compete with other games.

It did this for the most part but the fact they do not have leaderboards, online multplayer, and the multiplayer is looking shallow is a major problem. I am not saying multiplayer is the only way to do things, I am saying that this game needed some up to date features added to it and multiplayer could have been a great way to project that.

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#26 GabuEx
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I''ll be honest, right now this game is looking like it did not live up to my ridiculous expectations. I wanted a compendiun of old school nostalgia mixed with modern day features to compete with other games.

It did this for the most part but the fact they do not have leaderboards, online multplayer, and the multiplayer is looking shallow is a major problem. I am not saying multiplayer is the only way to do things, I am saying that this game needed some up to date features added to it and multiplayer could have been a great way to project that.

kardine

Why would it need online multiplayer?

To be honest I don't even know why they put in local multiplayer.

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#27 kardine
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[QUOTE="kardine"]

I''ll be honest, right now this game is looking like it did not live up to my ridiculous expectations. I wanted a compendiun of old school nostalgia mixed with modern day features to compete with other games.

It did this for the most part but the fact they do not have leaderboards, online multplayer, and the multiplayer is looking shallow is a major problem. I am not saying multiplayer is the only way to do things, I am saying that this game needed some up to date features added to it and multiplayer could have been a great way to project that.

GabuEx

Why would it need online multiplayer?

To be honest I don't even know why they put in local multiplayer.

Well if you have another ideas for making this game have new features let me know. If not then it does need something like multiplayer. Thats unless you have different expectations for this game.

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#28 blankshore
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"]Nice Calling an 8.5 or an 8.0 hereLordQuorthon
Nah. More like 6.5 because of the lack of Mii integration, no online co-op, no zombies, no downloadable content and having too many colors.

Ahh gamespot. At least they're predictable.

Anyway, I'm glad to see a review in the 90's. I'm also glad to hear that it's challenging.

As for the multiplayer, I really didn't care about that anyway. Punch-Out has always been a 1-player game. It's like when they added multiplayer to Metroid Prime 2 Echos. Nice addition, but it's not really the main attraction.

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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"] Nah. More like 6.5 because of the lack of Mii integration, no online co-op, no zombies, no downloadable content and having too many colors.funsohng

Also it is difficult. We all know Gamespot hates a challenge

and i dont think this game has chainsaws, blood, or guns. calling 5.5

Almost there, but I think you're all forgetting something that appears on the box art:

Oh Noes!

That's another -0.5, bringing it to 5.0: Mediocre!

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#30 blankshore
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This thread is genius :P

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#31 Bekrixas
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I really hope that this game is good...

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#32 pierst179
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Great! I wanted them to add a multiplayer mode, even though I knew it would be hard to fit it in the game's gameplay.

Now I kind of wish they hadn't developed this mode.

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#33 PSfanboy101
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Horray! hmmm....GS will give it no more than a 8.0

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great score

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#35 Darkmagcite
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Cool. Hmm, I wonder about the multiplayer mode a bit though since they stated it's weak. That's a shame, but I'm open to a new fun game.
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]I wonder how it would score if Nintendo's name wasn't on it...AlexSays
Yeah I wonder that about Twilight Princess too. But we're talking about Punch Out here.

Really? I loved Twilight Princess... :O And great score, don't know if il be picking this up though. Rent probs, then buy if has lasting appeal.
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#37 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Also it is difficult. We all know Gamespot hates a challenge

MischiefmAker

and i dont think this game has chainsaws, blood, or guns. calling 5.5

Almost there, but I think you're all forgetting something that appears on the box art:

Oh Noes!

That's another -0.5, bringing it to 5.0: Mediocre!

There is something else on that box art that suggests an even lower score from Gamespot. Take a closer look at Disco Kid. He is on the bottom right just above King Hippo's left bicep.Don't see it yet? Look closer, he is SMILING :0!!!! This childishness cannot be tolerated in this age of gaming. If this was a post-apocalyptic wasteland like it should have been, there would be no smiling or color. Gamespot will deduct at least another 0.5 making the score 4.5/10

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#38 JordanElek
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[QUOTE="MischiefmAker"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] and i dont think this game has chainsaws, blood, or guns. calling 5.5Pikminmaniac

Almost there, but I think you're all forgetting something that appears on the box art:

That's another -0.5, bringing it to 5.0: Mediocre!

There is something else on that box art that suggests an even lower score from Gamespot. Take a closer look at Disco Kid. He is on the bottom right just above King Hippo's left bicep.Don't see it yet? Look closer, he is SMILING :0!!!! This childishness cannot be tolerated in this age of gaming. If this was a post-apocalyptic wasteland like it should have been, there would be no smiling or color. Gamespot will deduct at least another 0.5 making the score 4.5/10

I know you're kidding, but De Blob's 8.0 flies in the face of that. And do we keep needing to remind everyone that Gamespot gave Super Mario Galaxy their game of the year award when it came out? If GS hates the Wii as much as people say they do, then a lot of their scores make no sense.

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#39 LordQuorthon
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There you go. AAAAE GOTY guaranteed!

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#40 Pikminmaniac
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There you go. AAAAE GOTY guaranteed!

LordQuorthon

LOL! That was also a AAA effort on your part!

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#41 JordanElek
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There you go. AAAAE GOTY guaranteed!LordQuorthon
:lol: Very nice.

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#42 intro94
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]I wonder how it would score if Nintendo's name wasn't on it...AlexSays
Yeah I wonder that about Twilight Princess too. But we're talking about Punch Out here.

good comeback.Because twilight is the same old outdated gameplay from the 90ths after all so...Thats why i think as well.I mean for that matter all racing games deserve miserable scores, because of their 80ths gameplay.I cant barely tell the difference between the gameplay of NF1 and the latest one.In fact i cant.
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#43 MrDziekuje
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I wonder how it would score if Nintendo's name wasn't on it...clicketyclick

Exactly my thoughts. I'm not seeing any appeal whatsoever aside from nostaglia.

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#44 srdjan311
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very nice very nice

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#45 MischiefmAker
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I know you're kidding, but De Blob's 8.0 flies in the face of that. And do we keep needing to remind everyone that Gamespot gave Super Mario Galaxy their game of the year award when it came out? If GS hates the Wii as much as people say they do, then a lot of their scores make no sense.

JordanElek

Aww, come on, this is fun! :D

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#46 Mckenna1845
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cool score, might keep an eye out for it, after i get little kings story of course.
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#47 SwigGY12
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Hmmm..

Nice review, but I think i'm gonna wait for some more reviews.

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#48 clicketyclick
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How can you honestly refer it to "an old game regurgitated exactly" when it has as many new modes of play as it does? Title Defense, Exhibition (with achievements), the "final surprise" ONM mentioned. None of those were in any of the previous games. (Except maybe Title Defense, which appeared in some form on the arcade titles)evildevil97
Title Defense is described as playing the game over again. It's a "new mode" that stands in place for a harder difficulty setting. Exhibition is a "new mode" that stands in for Achievements or Trophies. It's just little challenges to do. Zack & Wiki even had this. But this doesn't provide much incentive to do them, and they're apparently very frustrating, so the jump in difficulty is quite noticeable. I'm not sure that's the best way to appeal to both crowds. Neither will feel like they've got their money's worth.
Wow, this thread is becoming more shocking by the post. I agree that the jump from 70% to 91% was a nice shock to the system, but is it possible that this "old game" that Nintendo "regurgitated" became more enjoyable and replayable as more things were unlocked? I don't think it would be the first time that has happened, and I don't think only Nintendo has managed to pull it off. As for everything else, it just sounds like a lot of sour grapes from where I stand, which is strange, because I usually see you as the "wait and play" type when it comes to this. Already dismissing the game's characters as stereotypesMadmangamer364
Lol, you think they aren't stereotypes? Bear Hugger is the Canadian lumberjack and you can literally knock the croissants out of Glass Joe, a terrible fighter who can't win a fight (who just so happens to be french.) I half expect a new character to appear in blackface doing a tap dance. It wasn't the jump in score, but that, when they thought it was only 1.30 long and the exact same game (aside from 1 new char), they were already ready to give it a very decent 70%. That's telling. Nintendo gets away with a lot.
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Title Defense is described as playing the game over again. It's a "new mode" that stands in place for a harder difficulty setting. Exhibition is a "new mode" that stands in for Achievements or Trophies. It's just little challenges to do. clicketyclick
Challenges the NES game did not have. So, it still cannot be honestly referred to as being "regurgitated exactly". Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream was an exact "regurgitation" of Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!. This is not.
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[QUOTE="evildevil97"]How can you honestly refer it to "an old game regurgitated exactly" when it has as many new modes of play as it does? Title Defense, Exhibition (with achievements), the "final surprise" ONM mentioned. None of those were in any of the previous games. (Except maybe Title Defense, which appeared in some form on the arcade titles)clicketyclick
Title Defense is described as playing the game over again. It's a "new mode" that stands in place for a harder difficulty setting. Exhibition is a "new mode" that stands in for Achievements or Trophies. It's just little challenges to do. Zack & Wiki even had this. But this doesn't provide much incentive to do them, and they're apparently very frustrating, so the jump in difficulty is quite noticeable. I'm not sure that's the best way to appeal to both crowds. Neither will feel like they've got their money's worth.
Wow, this thread is becoming more shocking by the post. I agree that the jump from 70% to 91% was a nice shock to the system, but is it possible that this "old game" that Nintendo "regurgitated" became more enjoyable and replayable as more things were unlocked? I don't think it would be the first time that has happened, and I don't think only Nintendo has managed to pull it off. As for everything else, it just sounds like a lot of sour grapes from where I stand, which is strange, because I usually see you as the "wait and play" type when it comes to this. Already dismissing the game's characters as stereotypesMadmangamer364
Lol, you think they aren't stereotypes? Bear Hugger is the Canadian lumberjack and you can literally knock the croissants out of Glass Joe, a terrible fighter who can't win a fight (who just so happens to be french.) I half expect a new character to appear in blackface doing a tap dance. It wasn't the jump in score, but that, when they thought it was only 1.30 long and the exact same game (aside from 1 new char), they were already ready to give it a very decent 70%. That's telling. Nintendo gets away with a lot.

Most Nintendo games are also timeless so that might have something to do with it