Questioning greatness (2)-Wii motion plus

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#1 Voyley
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Whats the big deal? It just gets over sensitive and fiddly when taking it on and off. I played resort (great party game, best out there) and could no see the immediate effects.
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#2 trugs26
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Zelda Twilight Princess: Waggle wii remote to slash with the sword.
Wii Sports Resort: Hold wii remote over head, your sword is held over the head of your Mii, slash wii remote diagonally, your Mii slashes his sword horizontally.

How can you not see the difference. It's awesome and allows for tactical ability.

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#3 Voyley
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In twighlight princess 'wagglig' isnt recreating your exact moves on the screen. Cant the swordplay and Zelda be easily done without it (i know resort isnt compatible wthout motion plus), the sensor can pick up movments to lash in different directions without motion plus, surely?
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#4 trugs26
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I can't really remember, It's been a while since I've played Zelda, but I'm sure the only thing it really senses is the direction of the horizontal slash (left to right, or right to left), and possibley vertical slash (from top to bottom). Nevertheless, defending and attacking in Wii Sports Resort is much more tactical than Zelda TP could ever be (in terms of swordplay, ofcourse). Sensing every degree of your slash/block.

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#5 BrunoBRS
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sure, try to have a swordfight in red steel and then beg for a motion+
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#6 BrunoBRS
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In twighlight princess 'wagglig' isnt recreating your exact moves on the screen. Cant the swordplay and Zelda be easily done without it (i know resort isnt compatible wthout motion plus), the sensor can pick up movments to lash in different directions without motion plus, surely?Voyley
motion plus gives the wiimote 3 extra gyroscopes. that gives the wiimote the 1:1 accuracy you once expected the wii to have. the motion+ captures not only every single movement you do (try the air sports in wii sports resort), but the intensity of the move is captured with more accuracy. if you had swordplay without the motion+, it would be a series of horizontal and vertical waggling that would often be captured wrong.
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#7 Minishdriveby
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[QUOTE="Voyley"]In twighlight princess 'wagglig' isnt recreating your exact moves on the screen. Cant the swordplay and Zelda be easily done without it (i know resort isnt compatible wthout motion plus), the sensor can pick up movments to lash in different directions without motion plus, surely?BrunoBRS
motion plus gives the wiimote 3 extra gyroscopes. that gives the wiimote the 1:1 accuracy you once expected the wii to have. the motion+ captures not only every single movement you do (try the air sports in wii sports resort), but the intensity of the move is captured with more accuracy. if you had swordplay without the motion+, it would be a series of horizontal and vertical waggling that would often be captured wrong.

How are the air sports in wii sports resort? I think that's what I'm most interested in, in the game. I have yet to buy WSR yet.
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#8 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Voyley"]In twighlight princess 'wagglig' isnt recreating your exact moves on the screen. Cant the swordplay and Zelda be easily done without it (i know resort isnt compatible wthout motion plus), the sensor can pick up movments to lash in different directions without motion plus, surely?Minishdriveby
motion plus gives the wiimote 3 extra gyroscopes. that gives the wiimote the 1:1 accuracy you once expected the wii to have. the motion+ captures not only every single movement you do (try the air sports in wii sports resort), but the intensity of the move is captured with more accuracy. if you had swordplay without the motion+, it would be a series of horizontal and vertical waggling that would often be captured wrong.

How are the air sports in wii sports resort? I think that's what I'm most interested in, in the game. I have yet to buy WSR yet.

sky diving is like "quick fun". island flyover is surprisingly one of the most entertaining activities out there. too bad you're limited to 5 minutes per-session (like the jet ski free play). there's a lot to do and just flying around is already fun. dogfight is fun, if you stipulate that nobody can get extra balloons (they show up rather too often). all of them are the best example of 1:1 sensing. every slight tilt is captured by the sensor.
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Whats the big deal? It just gets over sensitive and fiddly when taking it on and off. I played resort (great party game, best out there) and could no see the immediate effects.Voyley
lol, your serious that you played that? and didn't see the difference? it's like watching a DVD beside the blu ray version and saying you can't see the difference... yeah appart they may look similar, but when you go back to the DVD's it's foggy... especially when trying the same film
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#10 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Voyley"]Whats the big deal? It just gets over sensitive and fiddly when taking it on and off. I played resort (great party game, best out there) and could no see the immediate effects.monty_4256
lol, your serious that you played that? and didn't see the difference? it's like watching a DVD beside the blu ray version and saying you can't see the difference... yeah appart they may look similar, but when you go back to the DVD's it's foggy... especially when trying the same film

i'd say it's more like watching a DVD backwards and not noticing until the end of the movie.
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#11 bionicle_lover
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try playing disk golf on tiger woods pga. If you take off the wiimotionplus while in game, the frisby is jerky. put it pack on, and it becomes smooth again. compare wii sports bat vs wii sports swordfighting. And look at wii sports resort archery. Those probably cannot be done without wii motionplus.

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#12 DeadEndPanda
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Whats the big deal? It just gets over sensitive and fiddly when taking it on and off. I played resort (great party game, best out there) and could no see the immediate effects.Voyley

omg! you might be infected with ignorance! :o

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#13 jorler333
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Motion plus is a great addition to the Wii console. There isn't much more discussion about it :P

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#14 Voyley
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Thats what the doctor diagnosed
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#15 manicfoot
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Really? I struggled to tell the difference with Grand Slam Tennis and then I played with just the Wiimote. It was really over-sensitive (it had to be because of the imprecise sensors) and it struggled to tell the difference between hard and soft shots. With Wiimotion+ I am the king of drop shots. It doesn't feel over-sensitive like the Wiimote, which at the start makes it feel like its worse or something because you're so used to doing over-the-top movements to get them to register.

Seriously though, if you can't tell the difference between Wii Sports and WSR then you have a problem. The Sky Diving demonstrates the technology perfectly. It's true 1:1 control.

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#16 Vexx88
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I wont buy Wii sports resort....at least not until they drop the price of Wii Motion +'s Or something.
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#17 BrunoBRS
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I wont buy Wii sports resort....at least not until they drop the price of Wii Motion +'s Or something.Vexx88
they're from $18 to $20. just dont buy them all at once.
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#18 shoryuken_
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Why did you make like five topics with pretty much the same title..?

Also, how dare you question greatness.

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#19 BrunoBRS
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Why did you make like five topics with pretty much the same title..?

Also, how dare you question greatness.

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i suppose he wants to complain about the wii but he was kicked from system wars. i'd complain, if being against him wasnt so entertaining.
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#20 TaMuK711
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I actually really like the Questioning Greatness threads that have been popping up. Whether hes doing it to bash the Wii or is just playing Devils Advocate for the sake of discussion, the threads show the Wii Forums opinion on whether or not the topic being discussed is great or not:P

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#21 BrunoBRS
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I actually really like the Questioning Greatness threads that have been popping up. Whether hes doing it to bash the Wii or is just playing Devils Advocate for the sake of discussion, the threads show the Wii Forums opinion on whether or not the topic being discussed is great or not:P

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well, it's better than what the DS forums get (recommendation, pokemon, help me, pokemon, pokemon, pokemon, pokemon, pokemon...)
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#22 TaMuK711
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[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

I actually really like the Questioning Greatness threads that have been popping up. Whether hes doing it to bash the Wii or is just playing Devils Advocate for the sake of discussion, the threads show the Wii Forums opinion on whether or not the topic being discussed is great or not:P

BrunoBRS

well, it's better than what the DS forums get (recommendation, pokemon, help me, pokemon, pokemon, pokemon, pokemon, pokemon...)

No kidding, when I got my DSi I was hoping their forums would be as good as the Wii forums.. might be if they kept all the pokemon stuff in the pokemon forums:-/

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#23 osan0
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first thing i did with wii sports resort was play sword fighting...and i was sold. such a little device yet it makes such a big difference. had a great sword fight today also (involving 4 rounds, lots of blocking...and some swearing). there are some games in resort where i cant really tell why WMP is needed....but that sold me. what im not 100% on though is what it adds. i know it adds a gyroscope (and has 2 other sensors to basically make the scope behave). i think the difference is that the wiimote could only detect motion along the X,Y and Z axis but it couldnt detect rotation but correct me if im wrong. whatever it does though..it works and works very well imho. i have my fingers crossed for RS2. the sword fighting in that also looks like good fun and switching between gun and sword on the fly looks great. cmon ubi...redeem thyself.
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#24 bgres077
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If they add it to the next Zelda game and bundle it for $49.99 the thing is going to sell like mad. They need to make it amazing or else people won't even care.