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[QUOTE="slickvic1990"][QUOTE="deadlashonline"]

[QUOTE="kingjazziephiz"]egm gave loztp 9.9 or 10c0mplex

Talk about bias. Twilight Princess didn't deserve anywhere near that.

why not? let me guess, because it stayed true to an awesome formula? everyone talks about the zelda formula being old, but beg for the sonic formula to go back to old? whats up with that???!!!!!

because launch games set the standards for how future games will be rated... and if the best the Wii has to offer is nothing more than a GC game with tacked on controls, the system will be mediocre at best. and atleast for Sonic (if you are not a fan of any of the Sonic 3D games), that means that you have not played a Sonic game that follows its original formula since what... between the Genesis and DC era? the last Zelda game to follow the formula was Wind Waker, which was 3-4 years ago.

this guy is crazy. launch games set the standard? what is wrong with you? launch games are perhaps some of the worst games to show off what a system can do. there isnt enough time to make a fully fledged game that can be respectable. the fact that zeldas controls were so good is a good thing. very few launch can do that. so, you dont know what you are talking about. zelda is a great game, but because gears came out, the graphics whores are hating. lets change metroid, mario, halo, MGS while we are at it. some of you just dont know wha you are talking about
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[QUOTE="slickvic1990"][QUOTE="deadlashonline"]

[QUOTE="kingjazziephiz"]egm gave loztp 9.9 or 10c0mplex

Talk about bias. Twilight Princess didn't deserve anywhere near that.

why not? let me guess, because it stayed true to an awesome formula? everyone talks about the zelda formula being old, but beg for the sonic formula to go back to old? whats up with that???!!!!!

because launch games set the standards for how future games will be rated... and if the best the Wii has to offer is nothing more than a GC game with tacked on controls, the system will be mediocre at best. and atleast for Sonic (if you are not a fan of any of the Sonic 3D games), that means that you have not played a Sonic game that follows its original formula since what... between the Genesis and DC era? the last Zelda game to follow the formula was Wind Waker, which was 3-4 years ago.

this guy is crazy. launch games set the standard? what is wrong with you? launch games are perhaps some of the worst games to show off what a system can do. there isnt enough time to make a fully fledged game that can be respectable. the fact that zeldas controls were so good is a good thing. very few launch can do that. so, you dont know what you are talking about. zelda is a great game, but because gears came out, the graphics whores are hating. lets change metroid, mario, halo, MGS while we are at it. some of you just dont know wha you are talking about
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[QUOTE="c0mplex"][QUOTE="slickvic1990"][QUOTE="deadlashonline"]

[QUOTE="kingjazziephiz"]egm gave loztp 9.9 or 10slickvic1990

Talk about bias. Twilight Princess didn't deserve anywhere near that.

why not? let me guess, because it stayed true to an awesome formula? everyone talks about the zelda formula being old, but beg for the sonic formula to go back to old? whats up with that???!!!!!

because launch games set the standards for how future games will be rated... and if the best the Wii has to offer is nothing more than a GC game with tacked on controls, the system will be mediocre at best. and atleast for Sonic (if you are not a fan of any of the Sonic 3D games), that means that you have not played a Sonic game that follows its original formula since what... between the Genesis and DC era? the last Zelda game to follow the formula was Wind Waker, which was 3-4 years ago.

this guy is crazy. launch games set the standard? what is wrong with you? launch games are perhaps some of the worst games to show off what a system can do. there isnt enough time to make a fully fledged game that can be respectable. the fact that zeldas controls were so good is a good thing. very few launch can do that. so, you dont know what you are talking about. zelda is a great game, but because gears came out, the graphics whores are hating. lets change metroid, mario, halo, MGS while we are at it. some of you just dont know wha you are talking about

standard as in how other games should be reviewed. did you even read the first sentence the right way? for example, if a launch game was rated a 10 in graphics, while future game demolish how the game look, how can the reviewer defend that a game that a game that they reviewed before should still be considered a 10 in graphics. should all future games that look better be given a 10 as well? no... hence why reviewers must take into consideration the potential of what the system can do later on in the road when reviewing launch games. that goes for all categories that are to be considered when a game is reviewed. and the controls for Zelda are just acceptable... nothing great about them, unless you can give even one valid reason why swinging a controller is much better than just pushing a button. is it because of the immersive experience? lol... because everyone actually swinging the controller like a sword when they play the game. Zelda:TP's sword fighting gameplay (not taking into account Link's seven hidden skills) does not have a level of finesse that you experience by swinging the controller compared to just pushing a button. all it comes down to is mowing your wrist from right to left. this is unlike games like Wii Sports and Wario Ware... games that are pretty much unplayable without the Wiimote (or at the very least, a port to more conventional controls will lose something in how the game is experienced)
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Gamespot loves PS3 more than Wii?  They've given Wii games better reviews for the most part.
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[QUOTE="slickvic1990"][QUOTE="c0mplex"][QUOTE="slickvic1990"][QUOTE="deadlashonline"]

[QUOTE="kingjazziephiz"]egm gave loztp 9.9 or 10c0mplex

Talk about bias. Twilight Princess didn't deserve anywhere near that.

why not? let me guess, because it stayed true to an awesome formula? everyone talks about the zelda formula being old, but beg for the sonic formula to go back to old? whats up with that???!!!!!

because launch games set the standards for how future games will be rated... and if the best the Wii has to offer is nothing more than a GC game with tacked on controls, the system will be mediocre at best. and atleast for Sonic (if you are not a fan of any of the Sonic 3D games), that means that you have not played a Sonic game that follows its original formula since what... between the Genesis and DC era? the last Zelda game to follow the formula was Wind Waker, which was 3-4 years ago.

this guy is crazy. launch games set the standard? what is wrong with you? launch games are perhaps some of the worst games to show off what a system can do. there isnt enough time to make a fully fledged game that can be respectable. the fact that zeldas controls were so good is a good thing. very few launch can do that. so, you dont know what you are talking about. zelda is a great game, but because gears came out, the graphics whores are hating. lets change metroid, mario, halo, MGS while we are at it. some of you just dont know wha you are talking about

standard as in how other games should be reviewed. did you even read the first sentence the right way? for example, if a launch game was rated a 10 in graphics, while future game demolish how the game look, how can the reviewer defend that a game that a game that they reviewed before should still be considered a 10 in graphics. should all future games that look better be given a 10 as well? no... hence why reviewers must take into consideration the potential of what the system can do later on in the road when reviewing launch games. that goes for all categories that are to be considered when a game is reviewed. and the controls for Zelda are just acceptable... nothing great about them, unless you can give even one valid reason why swinging a controller is much better than just pushing a button. is it because of the immersive experience? lol... because everyone actually swinging the controller like a sword when they play the game. Zelda:TP's sword fighting gameplay (not taking into account Link's seven hidden skills) does not have a level of finesse that you experience by swinging the controller compared to just pushing a button. all it comes down to is mowing your wrist from right to left. this is unlike games like Wii Sports and Wario Ware... games that are pretty much unplayable without the Wiimote (or at the very least, a port to more conventional controls will lose something in how the game is experienced)

*sigh* this guy is sad. launch games dont determine that. each game has their own rating. they are rated on what they have, not what past games have. you cant compare old games to new ones. each game is on its own. as for zelda, you contradicted yourself by mentioning the hidden skills. and remember, it is a launch game, originally developed for the GC. what they did with it was great. deedeedee
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Mario Kart is incomplete with glitchy sound and maybe the worst in the series.Jaysonguy
All true, it is out dated and there are newer versions for the same price point.
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#57 Dencore
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egm gave loztp 9.9 or 10kingjazziephiz
no it was 10/10 in the magazine.
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Why in gods name does Mario Kart 64 get a 6.2? Did I miss something. Gamespot is officially biased. They love the 360, they love the PS3. They love RPG's and Shooters. Good lord, that is unreal. Arguably the best game from in my opinion the best console ever, gets nothing but a 6.2. Come on guys, wake up. And I feel like the Wario Ware 9.1 rating was nothing but a "make-up" rating for Zeldas diddley-poo rating. All I have to say is.... Boo.
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No Mario Party came close to a AA here.
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Warioware was far more creative and made far better use of hte controller than Zelda. And Mario Kart 64 kinda sucked compared to Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart DS
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why do people think 8.8 is a low rating? 8.8 is like a B+ which is almost an A. twilight princess was an above average game, but i dont think it was spectacular compared to the others. maplesyrupnjam

Agreed -- not even close to the best Zelda game (in my opinion, probably the biggest Zelda dud since Zelda II -- not counting CDI), but I also agree with the TC that the review for WarioWare was pushed to be over a 9.0 to give the Wii a little gas and shut up some fanboys. Whatever the next big title for PS3 is will probably get a similar rating, just as 360 got thrown a bone for Perfect Dark Zero (not a 9.0 game). Launches suck... and none of the systems, fanboyism aside, have done really well with them. I don't care what system it's for, a WarioWare game doesn't deserve a 9.1 plain and simple. In regards to Mario Kart 64, the game hasn't aged that well... take a look at their VC reviews... on average, about 1.5 - 2.0 points lower than they would have gotten at the time.

Personally, I don't care what the reviews are. I just picked up another copy of Bust-A-Move (this time for PSP) and Gamespot continuously rails against those games... the version I have on PS2 got like a 4.0, but it makes me happy so screw what they think. Who cares, man? And I don't like Twilight Princess, and people are always saying I'm trolling when I bring it up. Who cares? Disagree with me. If it makes you happy, fantastic. I don't care if you get your rocks off playing ET or Chase The Chuckwagon. It's just not for me... and Mario Kart 64 wasn't for them. Move on, man.

PS - At the time, I thought Zelda II was pretty cool... :oops:

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stop whining about zelda:tp..i own it and like it..but it is not AAA worthy. mario kart isn't very good..the only redeeming quality of it is 4 player matches...each track had a glitch..and u could easily cheat..
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[QUOTE="stonecold86"]Why in gods name does Mario Kart 64 get a 6.2? Did I miss something. Gamespot is officially biased. They love the 360, they love the PS3. They love RPG's and Shooters. Good lord, that is unreal. Arguably the best game from in my opinion the best console ever, gets nothing but a 6.2. Come on guys, wake up. And I feel like the Wario Ware 9.1 rating was nothing but a "make-up" rating for Zeldas diddley-poo rating. All I have to say is.... Boo.
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graphics whore alert
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[QUOTE="maplesyrupnjam"]why do people think 8.8 is a low rating? 8.8 is like a B+ which is almost an A. twilight princess was an above average game, but i dont think it was spectacular compared to the others. Generic_Dude

Agreed -- not even close to the best Zelda game (in my opinion, probably the biggest Zelda dud since Zelda II -- not counting CDI), but I also agree with the TC that the review for WarioWare was pushed to be over a 9.0 to give the Wii a little gas and shut up some fanboys. Whatever the next big title for PS3 is will probably get a similar rating, just as 360 got thrown a bone for Perfect Dark Zero (not a 9.0 game). Launches suck... and none of the systems, fanboyism aside, have done really well with them. I don't care what system it's for, a WarioWare game doesn't deserve a 9.1 plain and simple. In regards to Mario Kart 64, the game hasn't aged that well... take a look at their VC reviews... on average, about 1.5 - 2.0 points lower than they would have gotten at the time.

Personally, I don't care what the reviews are. I just picked up another copy of Bust-A-Move (this time for PSP) and Gamespot continuously rails against those games... the version I have on PS2 got like a 4.0, but it makes me happy so screw what they think. Who cares, man? And I don't like Twilight Princess, and people are always saying I'm trolling when I bring it up. Who cares? Disagree with me. If it makes you happy, fantastic. I don't care if you get your rocks off playing ET or Chase The Chuckwagon. It's just not for me... and Mario Kart 64 wasn't for them. Move on, man.

PS - At the time, I thought Zelda II was pretty cool... :oops:

can you really take this guy seriously when he likes Bust-A-Move?
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Zelda is AAA material. Warioware is AA material. MK64 is old, and MKDS is better. Also, stop hating on zelda. it IS AAA material. just look at gamerankings. there is a lack of originality to some degree, but not enough to drop it below AAA. its definately not AAAA. not by a long shot
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#66 Generic_Dude
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You know, I'd like to see this get stickied as an official "Whining About Review Scores" thread... because there's just too damned much of it on here.
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#67 brightshadow525
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1) Gamespot Reviews are ridiculous. (Are you happy now?) 2) Why is this in the Wii board? Many other games have ridiculous reviews. 3) This thread sucks. 4) Stop posting.
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[QUOTE="Generic_Dude"]

[QUOTE="maplesyrupnjam"]why do people think 8.8 is a low rating? 8.8 is like a B+ which is almost an A. twilight princess was an above average game, but i dont think it was spectacular compared to the others. slickvic1990

Agreed -- not even close to the best Zelda game (in my opinion, probably the biggest Zelda dud since Zelda II -- not counting CDI), but I also agree with the TC that the review for WarioWare was pushed to be over a 9.0 to give the Wii a little gas and shut up some fanboys. Whatever the next big title for PS3 is will probably get a similar rating, just as 360 got thrown a bone for Perfect Dark Zero (not a 9.0 game). Launches suck... and none of the systems, fanboyism aside, have done really well with them. I don't care what system it's for, a WarioWare game doesn't deserve a 9.1 plain and simple. In regards to Mario Kart 64, the game hasn't aged that well... take a look at their VC reviews... on average, about 1.5 - 2.0 points lower than they would have gotten at the time.

Personally, I don't care what the reviews are. I just picked up another copy of Bust-A-Move (this time for PSP) and Gamespot continuously rails against those games... the version I have on PS2 got like a 4.0, but it makes me happy so screw what they think. Who cares, man? And I don't like Twilight Princess, and people are always saying I'm trolling when I bring it up. Who cares? Disagree with me. If it makes you happy, fantastic. I don't care if you get your rocks off playing ET or Chase The Chuckwagon. It's just not for me... and Mario Kart 64 wasn't for them. Move on, man.

PS - At the time, I thought Zelda II was pretty cool... :oops:

can you really take this guy seriously when he likes Bust-A-Move?

Sure... Bust-A-Move is a great puzzle game. The only valid thing one could hold against it is that the formula has barely changed over the past 15 years. But when I play a game like that, I'm just looking to kill some time... it's not deep by any stretch, but is Warioware? Warioware is a game driven entirely by a gimmick... it's cool the first time through, and then after that there's really no point to go back. That is my opinion. I think that the one-dimensional gameplay, messy graphics and sound and the lack of replay value make ANY Warioware game incapable of getting a 9.1.

And I don't hate Twilight Princess, I just think it's a disappointment. It's not a crappy game by any stretch, but within a three year development cycle, Nintendo couldn't come up with anything but a mere shadow of what they did 15 years ago or so with Ocarina Of Time. Then look at a company like Bethesda, who with three years of development, revolutionized their Elder Scrolls franchise with Morrowind (PC and Xbox) and then did it again with Oblivion (PC, Xbox 360, PS3). The game just seems like a lazy attempt to win back the people who didn't care for Wind Waker's direction (which, while controversial, was at least a step forward). The graphics in it are rough around the edges, even for a Gamecube game, the sound is subpar, and the gameplay is derivative -- but not as exciting as what it's derived from. Again, I think the game is alright, but I think calling it a AAA title is absurd. I think the 8.8 review is generous, and I'd like to see Nintendo learn a lesson, move on, make a better product and get this great series of games back on track.

Like I said, I don't care what people play and I don't care how much they like what they play. I don't make any money off of consoles or video game sales. If I get more out of Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz than I do out of Twilight Princess, it's my prerogative to hold that opinion. Just as it's yours to say you disagree, but I'm just a little tired of getting attacked for my viewpoint because the fanboys are overzealous and think everything Nintendo puts out is AAA.

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Gamespot sure seems biased towards M$ to me, Zelda TP was hailed by most publications but not good enough for GS ( cough cough, M$ payoff ) I guess we'll see when Crackdown (360) scores higher than 3.0 that game is rancid but will get great numbers just because of the H3 beta.
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#70 smileyryder34
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I must be the only person who doesn't have a problem with GS's ratings.  They've all seemed fair to me.  You can't compare them to anything else, because it's an opinion.  Your opinions will be different than theirs 9.5 times out 10.  Another site will think something different. 

Somethings just are like that.  You'll have to learn to live with it.  I say Gamespot, keep doing what you're doing.

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#71 mhmendez
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MK64 was the worst, I think but why is everyone hating on DD. I thought that was an amazing game. It added something that brought out the fun in Kart racing. I think MKDD was the best one.
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#72 Spyrius15
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If you feel that the reviews on Gamespot are unfair, find another site. There are enough websites devoted to video games to allow you to find one that is more in line with your tastes. Mario Kart 64 was a great game for its time, but I think it's just a bit dated. The VC game reviews in general seem more directed at their lasting value. No matter how good a game it was, it has to have something that makes it timeless. GS didn't think Mario Kart 64 had that, and I'm inclined to agree.
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[QUOTE="slickvic1990"][QUOTE="Generic_Dude"]

[QUOTE="maplesyrupnjam"]why do people think 8.8 is a low rating? 8.8 is like a B+ which is almost an A. twilight princess was an above average game, but i dont think it was spectacular compared to the others. Generic_Dude

Agreed -- not even close to the best Zelda game (in my opinion, probably the biggest Zelda dud since Zelda II -- not counting CDI), but I also agree with the TC that the review for WarioWare was pushed to be over a 9.0 to give the Wii a little gas and shut up some fanboys. Whatever the next big title for PS3 is will probably get a similar rating, just as 360 got thrown a bone for Perfect Dark Zero (not a 9.0 game). Launches suck... and none of the systems, fanboyism aside, have done really well with them. I don't care what system it's for, a WarioWare game doesn't deserve a 9.1 plain and simple. In regards to Mario Kart 64, the game hasn't aged that well... take a look at their VC reviews... on average, about 1.5 - 2.0 points lower than they would have gotten at the time.

Personally, I don't care what the reviews are. I just picked up another copy of Bust-A-Move (this time for PSP) and Gamespot continuously rails against those games... the version I have on PS2 got like a 4.0, but it makes me happy so screw what they think. Who cares, man? And I don't like Twilight Princess, and people are always saying I'm trolling when I bring it up. Who cares? Disagree with me. If it makes you happy, fantastic. I don't care if you get your rocks off playing ET or Chase The Chuckwagon. It's just not for me... and Mario Kart 64 wasn't for them. Move on, man.

PS - At the time, I thought Zelda II was pretty cool... :oops:

can you really take this guy seriously when he likes Bust-A-Move?

Sure... Bust-A-Move is a great puzzle game. The only valid thing one could hold against it is that the formula has barely changed over the past 15 years. But when I play a game like that, I'm just looking to kill some time... it's not deep by any stretch, but is Warioware? Warioware is a game driven entirely by a gimmick... it's cool the first time through, and then after that there's really no point to go back. That is my opinion. I think that the one-dimensional gameplay, messy graphics and sound and the lack of replay value make ANY Warioware game incapable of getting a 9.1.

And I don't hate Twilight Princess, I just think it's a disappointment. It's not a crappy game by any stretch, but within a three year development cycle, Nintendo couldn't come up with anything but a mere shadow of what they did 15 years ago or so with Ocarina Of Time. Then look at a company like Bethesda, who with three years of development, revolutionized their Elder Scrolls franchise with Morrowind (PC and Xbox) and then did it again with Oblivion (PC, Xbox 360, PS3). The game just seems like a lazy attempt to win back the people who didn't care for Wind Waker's direction (which, while controversial, was at least a step forward). The graphics in it are rough around the edges, even for a Gamecube game, the sound is subpar, and the gameplay is derivative -- but not as exciting as what it's derived from. Again, I think the game is alright, but I think calling it a AAA title is absurd. I think the 8.8 review is generous, and I'd like to see Nintendo learn a lesson, move on, make a better product and get this great series of games back on track.

Like I said, I don't care what people play and I don't care how much they like what they play. I don't make any money off of consoles or video game sales. If I get more out of Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz than I do out of Twilight Princess, it's my prerogative to hold that opinion. Just as it's yours to say you disagree, but I'm just a little tired of getting attacked for my viewpoint because the fanboys are overzealous and think everything Nintendo puts out is AAA.

first of all, i agree completely with your views on warioware. also, why critisize zelda when you like bust-a-move which stays true to a formula? (cough, zelda, cough). also, nintendo was working 3 years on a GC GAME!!!! for what it is, it is brilliant. the wii improvements were great. Zelda is AAA (courtesy of gamerankings) and trust me when i tell you, nintendo doesnt put out all AAA. there are some, but not all, not by a long shot.
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MK64 was the worst, I think but why is everyone hating on DD. I thought that was an amazing game. It added something that brought out the fun in Kart racing. I think MKDD was the best one.mhmendez

I agree with you. DD is second only to the SNES version.  However, I can see why some people would dislike DD.  It needed more tracks and it would have been nice if each character was unique instead of having two of each character. 

But yeah, this constanty whining and crying about MK64 is lame.  Even when the game came out critics were against it.  I was massively into MK for the SNES (still am) but MK64 was just bad.  There is a reason Diddy Kong racing took all the glory in those days...it was better in every way.

If MK64 was bad when it came out, why should it score better than 6 now that the game is old and people have the option to play the better versions?

However, Twilight Princess' score is fair.  I think it is one of the best since the SNES version...possibly even better than Ocarina due to the better graphics.  Maybe I just love Zelda games with a light and dark world.  However, it still mostly the same old Zelda game...as great as it is, it still felt unoriginal.  I think it's time for Zelda to create an all new story with all new characters.  I've plated enough of the young adventurer caught up in a battle to save the world and a princess by visiting the same races and same temples. 

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#75 slickvic1990
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[QUOTE="mhmendez"]MK64 was the worst, I think but why is everyone hating on DD. I thought that was an amazing game. It added something that brought out the fun in Kart racing. I think MKDD was the best one.ZIMdoom

I agree with you. DD is second only to the SNES version.  However, I can see why some people would dislike DD.  It needed more tracks and it would have been nice if each character was unique instead of having two of each character. 

But yeah, this constanty whining and crying about MK64 is lame.  Even when the game came out critics were against it.  I was massively into MK for the SNES (still am) but MK64 was just bad.  There is a reason Diddy Kong racing took all the glory in those days...it was better in every way.

If MK64 was bad when it came out, why should it score better than 6 now that the game is old and people have the option to play the better versions?

However, Twilight Princess' score is fair.  I think it is one of the best since the SNES version...possibly even better than Ocarina due to the better graphics.  Maybe I just love Zelda games with a light and dark world.  However, it still mostly the same old Zelda game...as great as it is, it still felt unoriginal.  I think it's time for Zelda to create an all new story with all new characters.  I've plated enough of the young adventurer caught up in a battle to save the world and a princess by visiting the same races and same temples. 

but if you changed that, it wouldnt be zelda.
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#76 slickvic1990
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someone here mentioned diddy kong racing. i was just wondering, how do you feel about the DS version and its rating? i havent played it yet, so im looking for your take on the game
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#77 ikwal
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Back when this game was released I had a friend sleeping over and we rented it and had soooo much fun. Can't believe how the old whiny reviewers at gamespot could give it that bad score. But that's why I never ever trust the ratings Gamespot gives to any game. They are really trying to find faults in the games instead of really enjoying them.
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#78 The_Dark_Jester
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    A game rating should always be taken with a grain of salt, not matter what source it comes from. I know I love some games others would hate. I'm one of those people that almost agrees with Gamespot's score on TP. It's a fun game but let's be honest with ourselves it's a Gamecube port and the story had been done before, (Link to the past featured light and dark, and an animal form.) 
    For the most part I ignore the score and read the actual review. They point all the good points and bad points, therefore justifying the score. I will admit Gamespot does seem like they rate Nintendo a little harsh, but that was last gen with the cube, and let's face it the cube wasn't a star player.
    It's a new generation and a new set of games are coming out, as someone already pointed out the DS is almost always getting better ratings than the PSP. As proof of a new generation a lot of the bigger games to come out have rated pretty good. As for the VC games let's face it they are re-releases of games from yesteryear! Of course they will be rated lower, only a select few will withstand the test of time!
    Sorry for the rant but this topic seems full of them and I figured I would just throw one in for good measure.
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#79 urine72
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To be honest i dont see why Gamespot deems it necessary to re-review all this titles, every game released on the VC can be found already on GS why should there be any difference in score on an original and a port, if the games are IDENTICAL to each other.
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#80 Cronaroth
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I thought MK64 was the most poorly aged of the series-and when two other better ones are currently available...whats the point in buying MK64 when u can buy the better playing MKDD?
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#81 Caybrown
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Does it really matter? Honestly.
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Mario Kart is incomplete with glitchy sound and maybe the worst in the series.Jaysonguy
Best in series by far. only played all of 2 minutes of the VC version, but never found any glitches. Mario Kart 64 is definately my favourite racing game of all time. Memorable music, tracks and multiplayer is what counts in this game. b xx
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#83 Cronaroth
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Oh and Gamespot should just say if a game is worth the download or not....seriously
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#84 smileyryder34
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But if they recommend it and you don't like it then you'll complain about that.  Too many people gripe if a game reviewers opinion isn't theres.  Then if they buy the game on the recommendation of said reviewer and don't like they complain.  So they say what the game is like and how they like it, you make the decision FOR YOURSELF and then purchase the game or not.

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mario kart 64 is the best in the series..end of storyfinalflame_04
fixed. b xx
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MK64 is one of my favorite games of all time, and might the console game I've spent the total most time playing. The VC version is clearly inferior to the original in many ways, for various reasons. And games are re-rated because Nintendo is asking us to spend money on code they developed up to 20 years ago, when a large portion of the audience wasn't even born yet. It's an information service. If you don't care about the reviews....then don't read them. Honestly, I can't imagine why anyone's self-esteem would be so tied up in a piece of electronic equipment that they'd care that much about a number given to a piece of software by a 3rd party internet site.
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#87 ShakeNBake1491
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and just for kicks i'll say.. WTH!! HOW COULD SUPER MARIO WORLD ONLY GET AN 8.5!!!!!!!