Rumor: Legend Of Zelda trailer in October.

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="snover2009"]

If there is no voice acting in the next Zelda, I will classify it as a franchise that is stuck in the past and move on to bigger and better games, like Half Life 2 Episode 3.

sonic_spark

One game. Metroid Prime 3. Voice acting superb, Samus never spoke, and it worked wonderfully.

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]

I've listed countless things I want in the actual game, but as for the trailer:

1. Voice-over by a known character like Zelda in the WW commercial.

2. Best graphics on Wii, if not CGI ala WOTLK trailer.

3. Not entirely cinematic, gameplay interlaced.

4. A good sense of epicness. That means fully orchestrated music in the backround. And it should be like the TP revealing trailer where we didn't know what it was at first.

5. Absolutely NO sections showing people playing the game.

6. Confirmation of innovative WM+ controls.

7. Plenty of mystery. There should be things in there that we'll be arguing about the identity of for months.

8. A "Holiday 2010 release date".

Head_of_games

Holiday 2010!?

No way, it should be released months before that time.

I know they need time, but they had plenty of time, it should be release no later than fall 2010.

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]no voice acting. i bet october 17. everything that is good that nintendo does happens on my birthdaygarrett_duffman

If there is no voice acting in the next Zelda, I will classify it as a franchise that is stuck in the past and move on to bigger and better games, like Half Life 2 Episode 3.

This has NOTHING to do with a silent hero, this has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that voice work has become a "basic" feature in todays games. We expect it to be there. If it is there, we react neutrally, if it is not, we react negatively.

Link should remain mute, but everyone else needs a voice, Nintendo will be sure that the English voice overs are of good quality.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="NormanOfTorn"]Apparently Nintendo is hard at work on a trailer to be presented in October.darth-pyschosis

I'd rather them being hard at work on the game

If this is true I will be very disappointed in Nintendo

No one should care about trailers, all they are is a way to distract the masses from the game

To hire someone to take a 30 second to 3 minute video of someone testing the game (ya know the thing they do to make sure its fun, playable) wouldn't be nearly as determental to the game's development as you're letting on, all they have to do is record video of it being played, perhaps video of some cutscenes and then while the developers are still developing the game send the footage to someone else to cut it the way they want to show the coolest things they want in the trailer

it wouldn't hinder its development at all

its not like SHiggy steps away from the dev kit and goes out and buy an iFlip, video recorder or something, then returns to the studio to record himself playing it before he then realises he can't record and play at the same time, thus delaying the game 2 years until Shiggy asks Reggie to hold the camera

How about no company ever shows trailers for their games, never in advance, and just tell people when it will release and release it with no gameplay videos to help them judge whether they'd like to go out and buy it at launch?

Thank you Darth, its good to see people using ACTUAL logic when trying to prove or explain something in these forums.

Plus, Nintendo is a business. If making a trailer for the upcoming Zelda will excite people into buying it (its called advertising, its worked very well in the past) then it will be worth every penny in the end.

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="snover2009"]

If there is no voice acting in the next Zelda, I will classify it as a franchise that is stuck in the past and move on to bigger and better games, like Half Life 2 Episode 3.

snover2009

This has NOTHING to do with a silent hero, this has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that voice work has become a "basic" feature in todays games. We expect it to be there. If it is there, we react neutrally, if it is not, we react negatively.

Link should remain mute, but everyone else needs a voice, Nintendo will be sure that the English voice overs are of good quality.

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"] there is absolutely nothing wrong with traditional " silent hero" games. I find it fun, it adds more adventure to the adventure. garrett_duffman

This has NOTHING to do with a silent hero, this has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that voice work has become a "basic" feature in todays games. We expect it to be there. If it is there, we react neutrally, if it is not, we react negatively.

Link should remain mute, but everyone else needs a voice, Nintendo will be sure that the English voice overs are of good quality.

"Where's everyone going? Bingo?"

-Leon S. Kennedy

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="snover2009"]

This has NOTHING to do with a silent hero, this has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that voice work has become a "basic" feature in todays games. We expect it to be there. If it is there, we react neutrally, if it is not, we react negatively.

Link should remain mute, but everyone else needs a voice, Nintendo will be sure that the English voice overs are of good quality.

T_Largo

"Where's everyone going? Bingo?"

-Leon S. Kennedy

I don't get the big deal in voice acting, I always have the subtitles on. Please no voice over in Zelda.

I just want a trailer that sums up the general direction their taking the series. It needs some change. I want some quick M+ examples, I want to see what visual style their going for, I want to hear some voice acting for non-link characters, and I want to hear some orchestrated music.

But mostly, I just want it to melt my face off.

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="snover2009"]

Holiday 2010!?

No way, it should be released months before that time.

snover2009

I know they need time, but they had plenty of time, it should be release no later than fall 2010.

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"] there is absolutely nothing wrong with traditional " silent hero" games. I find it fun, it adds more adventure to the adventure. garrett_duffman

One game. Metroid Prime 3. Voice acting superb, Samus never spoke, and it worked wonderfully.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

So you are going to purchase the game when it is finally released without even watchin a single minute of gameplay footage.

OniStrat

Yup

Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Smash Bros, etc...

They're all franchises that you know what you're getting the second you hear the title

There's no need for a trailer.

Wait until the game is out and show some footage, to make a trailer is a waste of time.

Seriously?

Ok here's a tip when buying games.

If it's the main entry from an established franchise from Nintendo you buy it

That's it

No trailer needed for these games

[QUOTE="OniStrat"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yup

Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Smash Bros, etc...

They're all franchises that you know what you're getting the second you hear the title

There's no need for a trailer.

Wait until the game is out and show some footage, to make a trailer is a waste of time.

Jaysonguy

Seriously?

Ok here's a tip when buying games.

If it's the main entry from an established franchise from Nintendo you buy it

That's it

No trailer needed for these games

A trailer IS needed for the next Zelda, because it is going to be different from the other 3D Zeldas. Myamoto said so himself that the new Zelda will not be using the same formula as TP and WW.

[QUOTE="OniStrat"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yup

Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Smash Bros, etc...

They're all franchises that you know what you're getting the second you hear the title

There's no need for a trailer.

Wait until the game is out and show some footage, to make a trailer is a waste of time.

Jaysonguy

Seriously?

Ok here's a tip when buying games.

If it's the main entry from an established franchise from Nintendo you buy it

That's it

No trailer needed for these games

Isn't Nintendo's event coming up? You know, the one they have every October?

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

So you are going to purchase the game when it is finally released without even watchin a single minute of gameplay footage.

Jaysonguy

Yup

Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Smash Bros, etc...

They're all franchises that you know what you're getting the second you hear the title

There's no need for a trailer.

Wait until the game is out and show some footage, to make a trailer is a waste of time.

[QUOTE="OniStrat"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yup

Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Smash Bros, etc...

They're all franchises that you know what you're getting the second you hear the title

There's no need for a trailer.

Wait until the game is out and show some footage, to make a trailer is a waste of time.

Jaysonguy

Seriously?

Ok here's a tip when buying games.

If it's the main entry from an established franchise from Nintendo you buy it

That's it

No trailer needed for these games

Of course people want to watch trailers of games they're going to buy. Otherwise they wouldn't know what they're buying. It's another thing if you're avoiding videos, when you already know how the game looks and plays, because you don't want to spoil anything, but not watching a trailer because "it's Zelda, how different could it be" is just plain stupid.

jasonguy why do you have to crash the fun? The purpose of the trailer is for entertainment. Videogames are entertainment, videos are entertainment, even pictures are entertainment. Whether the game is the same formula or not the main purpose will remain to entertain an audience. Plus it doesn't take much effort to make a trailer. All a videogame trailer ussually is, is a prerendering of certain parts of the game and putting it together. Then you add a fancy title in Adobe after effects & your done. Considering Nintendo's size im pretty sure they have large workstation PC's that can record, render & encode the whole video in a matter of minutes. I do alot of video editing & 3d modeling etc & i dont even have an extremly expensive workstation, i have a gaming PC, but i can still render a 20 miniute video in 30min. Also trailer's have their benifits. Once the trailer is shown people will form opinions & possible suggestions for areas of improvement therefore resulting in a better game. This trailer shouldnt be a problem or a slowdown in development anyway. Nintendo is known for their ability to work on multiple projects at once & still produce works of art.

if you think about it, trailers are like "sneak peek" commercials for gamers only.

2. Orchestrated Sountrack and Voice acting.

sonic_spark

Absolutely not. I would not purchase a LoZ with voice-acting, because it wouldn't be LoZ anymore. There's nothing wrong with reading.

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

2. Orchestrated Sountrack and Voice acting.

dkrustyklown

Absolutely not. I would not purchase a LoZ with voice-acting, because it wouldn't be LoZ anymore. There's nothing wrong with reading.

Metroid Prime 3 says hello. And you're right. If this game was like TP i'd be happy. But, seriously, after Metroid Prime 3, Link the silent Hero would work perfectly. I don't see how you can justify your position?

[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

2. Orchestrated Sountrack and Voice acting.

sonic_spark

Absolutely not. I would not purchase a LoZ with voice-acting, because it wouldn't be LoZ anymore. There's nothing wrong with reading.

Metroid Prime 3 says hello. And you're right. If this game was like TP i'd be happy. But, seriously, after Metroid Prime 3, Link the silent Hero would work perfectly. I don't see how you can justify your position?

I justify my position by appeal to tradition.

Pointing out other franchises is absolutely meaningless.

if you think about it, trailers are like "sneak peek" commercials for gamers only.

danger_ranger95

There's a difference between tradition and doing the same thing over and over again. I find it funny how die-hard fanboys act as if they're not buying a new game in their favorite franchise because of one factor, like voice acting, when they'll probably steal buy it once it comes out. There's nothing wrong with reading, but that has nothing to do with people wanting voice acting in a major franchise like LoZ. Voice acting is basic in modern games.Arbiterisl33t69

Voice acting is basic in modern games.Arbiterisl33t69

Voice acting is a chimera, - I don't see it adding anything to the zelda franchise, just as it added nothing to MP3. If Nintendo springs for it, fine - Personally I would find it an annoyance, and would rather see a quasi orchestrated soundtrack and wii motion+ controls before I could start caring about V.O. Music in games is just more important to me when it comes to selling the mood, and gameplay advances trump all.

There's a measured dignity to voiceless characters, the lack of V.O. can be a valid design choice not a sign of technological ignorance. The argument against reminds me of folks bashing Diablo 3 for being 'isometric' since, ya know, all games HAVE to be FPS or TPS's these days......ESPECIALLY RPG's.......

It's like folks won't rest till everything looks, sounds and plays relatively the same......

TGS is a good place for it, I can see it happening.wooooode

I don't think Nintendo has anything to do with the TGS, so it will probably be their fall conference if this is true.

They better not screw up the formula.

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

Absolutely not. I would not purchase a LoZ with voice-acting, because it wouldn't be LoZ anymore. There's nothing wrong with reading.

dkrustyklown

Metroid Prime 3 says hello. And you're right. If this game was like TP i'd be happy. But, seriously, after Metroid Prime 3, Link the silent Hero would work perfectly. I don't see how you can justify your position?

I justify my position by appeal to tradition.

Pointing out other franchises is absolutely meaningless.

It's completely relevant to the point. People were afraid that voice acting in Metroid Prime 3 would ruin everything and it didn't. In fact it was flawless. Our silent heroine didn't speak a single a word.

Now your appeal to tradition is fair. I said earlier, if it didn't up production values it'd still be Zelda. However, I don't see why you're so against it. You don't think voice acting would bring the world more to life?

And you wouldn't purchase it solely on the fact that voice acting would ruin it in your opinion? You have no logical argument against voice acting aside from appealing to tradition. And Majora's Mask was different, did you not like that either? Zelda needs to evolve, and upping the production values is a necessity for this day and age.

Now if that's your opinion hey, fine. But if you can't bring a legitimate argument to the table then don't blast the idea.

[QUOTE="wooooode"]TGS is a good place for it, I can see it happening.randomwiiplayer

I don't think Nintendo has anything to do with the TGS, so it will probably be their fall conference if this is true.

They better not screw up the formula.

I can't remember when Nintendo did anything groundbreaking at a TGS. At their own show they've done a lot of things. One thing that comes to mind is the unveiling of Sonic the Hedgehog in Smash Bros Brawl if I'm correct.

But hey, here's to hoping...

Uh oh, looks like there won't be a big Nintendo media summit this year.

Uh oh, looks like there won't be a big Nintendo media summit this year.

Head_of_games

I'm confused? Is this the fall Conference they are talking about. Does it really matter if it is in Europe instead?

I can almost guarantee you that some elf-guy named Link will be Running around a open grass land plain fighting with his horse. I can almost see it now.

...adding voice to zelda characters may feel great, but it would kill those voices you had created yourself for each character...BrunoBRS

You hit the nail on the head.

[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

Metroid Prime 3 says hello. And you're right. If this game was like TP i'd be happy. But, seriously, after Metroid Prime 3, Link the silent Hero would work perfectly. I don't see how you can justify your position?

sonic_spark

I justify my position by appeal to tradition.

Pointing out other franchises is absolutely meaningless.

It's completely relevant to the point. People were afraid that voice acting in Metroid Prime 3 would ruin everything and it didn't. In fact it was flawless. Our silent heroine didn't speak a single a word.

Now your appeal to tradition is fair. I said earlier, if it didn't up production values it'd still be Zelda. However, I don't see why you're so against it. You don't think voice acting would bring the world more to life?

And you wouldn't purchase it solely on the fact that voice acting would ruin it in your opinion? You have no logical argument against voice acting aside from appealing to tradition. And Majora's Mask was different, did you not like that either? Zelda needs to evolve, and upping the production values is a necessity for this day and age.

Now if that's your opinion hey, fine. But if you can't bring a legitimate argument to the table then don't blast the idea.

The reason why the example set by Metroid Prime 3 doesn't apply to LoZ is that the only memorable character in Metroid is Samus. I've played all 3 of the MP games and I can't even name one other character besides Samus. So yeah, I don't mind if they give voices to a bunch of random NPC's that I never cared about to begin with. Don't get me wrong; I love Metroid Prime, but I really don't care about any other character but Samus in that game, and they didn't give her a voice.

With LoZ, it's a different story, at least for me. I actually care about Zelda and Link's village playmates. I care for the citizens of Castletown. I look at them as a much more significant part of the story than I do the NPC's in Metroid Prime. If I popped in a LoZ game and Nintendo did something silly like give Zelda an English accent, I would be pretty upset, because I never envisioned her having an English accent.

There is too much risk of alienating core fans of the LoZ with voice-acting. No matter what voice talent they go with, plenty of people would be upset because they weren't the voices that they expected based on how they played those voices out in their heads when they played previous versions of the game.

That, and it takes a certain level of imagination and fantasy out of the game.

Meh, I prefer my fairy tales to come in written form.

[QUOTE="NormanOfTorn"]Apparently Nintendo is hard at work on a trailer to be presented in October.Jaysonguy

I'd rather them being hard at work on the game

If this is true I will be very disappointed in Nintendo

No one should care about trailers, all they are is a way to distract the masses from the game

als trailers serve a hug purpose as the "fan reaction" to certain artistic directions and ideas put into it

as for this voice acting argument going on, "appealing to tradition" is a load of rubbish. seriously you just need to grow up, a new game spawns new ideas, should they be taken out? just because it's "tradition". wait SHOULD ZELDA NEVER HAVE GONE 3D? get a life, nintendo should put it in there, and keep link silent.

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="wooooode"]TGS is a good place for it, I can see it happening.sonic_spark

I don't think Nintendo has anything to do with the TGS, so it will probably be their fall conference if this is true.

They better not screw up the formula.

I can't remember when Nintendo did anything groundbreaking at a TGS. At their own show they've done a lot of things. One thing that comes to mind is the unveiling of Sonic the Hedgehog in Smash Bros Brawl if I'm correct.

But hey, here's to hoping...