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#51 Snyder_Trigger
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I have a good feeling about this one. Although I wish it wasnt set to be 'M'.

You guys will see. This is only going to be a graphical "bar" set for the Wii. It can only get better from here on.

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#52 TacticalElefant
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dude, MP3 pulled WAAAAY better graphics than this game (granted its still in development) but the gameplay does look generic. the poster you showed looks like a wannabe Half Life 2 (and anything that tries to beat Half-Life 2 at its own game will fail...unless its Half-Life 3). its good to know that at least High Voltage is putting an effort into their graphics engine (or at least the advertisement of it) but that doesnt make it good. The graphics are unimpressive esspecially when stacked up against MP3 or SMG (hell, even SSBB). However, the saving grace for me will be if it has multiplayer (local and online, but it only has local i'll be cool with it) and if the gameplay is varied/wii controls are sublime. but as of right now, it does not look like a purchase and does not look any different than the constant stream of boring FPS's flooding the video game market today.

icarus212001

MP3 contained little or none of the following:

Bumpmapping
Normal mapping
Specular mapping
Reflection surfaces
Refraction surfaces

Basically MP3 was all polygon and texture with bad texture filtering and way too much bloom lighting. I'm not necessarily saying it looked bad, but so much of the graphics was wasted on that god damn bloom lighting and the devs themselves said they didn't want to push the graphics, as it wasn't their main focus. The Conduit is actually trying to something pretty significant and rare across the board of Wii titles, hell even in light of Gamecube titles too. Yes I can't help but think of Half Life with the biological weapons, the similar alien types, and a mysterious main character (at least he talks, unlike Mr. Freeman) but is that a bad thing really? No, because that's a bad ass game, and this game looks like alot of fun too. The Wiimote is a great FPS controller, it's just a shame that the Wii was a truly underpowered console from the start. I'm just hoping that The Conduit really is the game that shows the Wii could equal/exceed the Xbox.

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#53 CheeChee_Macko
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It is definitely worth a look.
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#54 icarus212001
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[QUOTE="icarus212001"]

dude, MP3 pulled WAAAAY better graphics than this game (granted its still in development) but the gameplay does look generic. the poster you showed looks like a wannabe Half Life 2 (and anything that tries to beat Half-Life 2 at its own game will fail...unless its Half-Life 3). its good to know that at least High Voltage is putting an effort into their graphics engine (or at least the advertisement of it) but that doesnt make it good. The graphics are unimpressive esspecially when stacked up against MP3 or SMG (hell, even SSBB). However, the saving grace for me will be if it has multiplayer (local and online, but it only has local i'll be cool with it) and if the gameplay is varied/wii controls are sublime. but as of right now, it does not look like a purchase and does not look any different than the constant stream of boring FPS's flooding the video game market today.

TacticalElefant

MP3 contained little or none of the following:

Bumpmapping
Normal mapping
Specular mapping
Reflection surfaces
Refraction surfaces

Basically MP3 was all polygon and texture with bad texture filtering and way too much bloom lighting. I'm not necessarily saying it looked bad, but so much of the graphics was wasted on that god damn bloom lighting and the devs themselves said they didn't want to push the graphics, as it wasn't their main focus. The Conduit is actually trying to something pretty significant and rare across the board of Wii titles, hell even in light of Gamecube titles too. Yes I can't help but think of Half Life with the biological weapons, the similar alien types, and a mysterious main character (at least he talks, unlike Mr. Freeman) but is that a bad thing really? No, because that's a bad ass game, and this game looks like alot of fun too. The Wiimote is a great FPS controller, it's just a shame that the Wii was a truly underpowered console from the start. I'm just hoping that The Conduit really is the game that shows the Wii could equal/exceed the Xbox.

its better to have the protagonist silent because you feel more attatched. samus' never says a word but she is adored by more people than we know what to do with (ad dont get me started on Link). I'd rather Gordon say nothing than have him spewing stpuid "baditude" catch phrases every other second

but back to topic. all of those things you listed are nice and all, but that isnt to say that the game is going to be better looking. art sty.le is what sells the game in the end. You can have all the tech you want, but in the end, people will remember and prefer art styl.le over technical ability (Half Life 2 >>>> crysis)

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#55 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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To me it looks like a mix between Project Snowblind:

and Lost Planet:

It could work imo.

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#57 metroidfood
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[QUOTE="icarus212001"]

dude, MP3 pulled WAAAAY better graphics than this game (granted its still in development) but the gameplay does look generic. the poster you showed looks like a wannabe Half Life 2 (and anything that tries to beat Half-Life 2 at its own game will fail...unless its Half-Life 3). its good to know that at least High Voltage is putting an effort into their graphics engine (or at least the advertisement of it) but that doesnt make it good. The graphics are unimpressive esspecially when stacked up against MP3 or SMG (hell, even SSBB). However, the saving grace for me will be if it has multiplayer (local and online, but it only has local i'll be cool with it) and if the gameplay is varied/wii controls are sublime. but as of right now, it does not look like a purchase and does not look any different than the constant stream of boring FPS's flooding the video game market today.

TacticalElefant

MP3 contained little or none of the following:

Bumpmapping
Normal mapping
Specular mapping
Reflection surfaces
Refraction surfaces

Basically MP3 was all polygon and texture with bad texture filtering and way too much bloom lighting. I'm not necessarily saying it looked bad, but so much of the graphics was wasted on that god damn bloom lighting and the devs themselves said they didn't want to push the graphics, as it wasn't their main focus. The Conduit is actually trying to something pretty significant and rare across the board of Wii titles, hell even in light of Gamecube titles too. Yes I can't help but think of Half Life with the biological weapons, the similar alien types, and a mysterious main character (at least he talks, unlike Mr. Freeman) but is that a bad thing really? No, because that's a bad ass game, and this game looks like alot of fun too. The Wiimote is a great FPS controller, it's just a shame that the Wii was a truly underpowered console from the start. I'm just hoping that The Conduit really is the game that shows the Wii could equal/exceed the Xbox.

That doesn't make the graphics better than MP3.

MP3 had better lighting, textures, character models, environments, after-effects, and artistic design. The Conduitdoesn't even come close to beating it in graphics.

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[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

dude, MP3 pulled WAAAAY better graphics than this game (granted its still in development) but the gameplay does look generic. the poster you showed looks like a wannabe Half Life 2 (and anything that tries to beat Half-Life 2 at its own game will fail...unless its Half-Life 3). its good to know that at least High Voltage is putting an effort into their graphics engine (or at least the advertisement of it) but that doesnt make it good. The graphics are unimpressive esspecially when stacked up against MP3 or SMG (hell, even SSBB). However, the saving grace for me will be if it has multiplayer (local and online, but it only has local i'll be cool with it) and if the gameplay is varied/wii controls are sublime. but as of right now, it does not look like a purchase and does not look any different than the constant stream of boring FPS's flooding the video game market today.

metroidfood

MP3 contained little or none of the following:

Bumpmapping
Normal mapping
Specular mapping
Reflection surfaces
Refraction surfaces

Basically MP3 was all polygon and texture with bad texture filtering and way too much bloom lighting. I'm not necessarily saying it looked bad, but so much of the graphics was wasted on that god damn bloom lighting and the devs themselves said they didn't want to push the graphics, as it wasn't their main focus. The Conduit is actually trying to something pretty significant and rare across the board of Wii titles, hell even in light of Gamecube titles too. Yes I can't help but think of Half Life with the biological weapons, the similar alien types, and a mysterious main character (at least he talks, unlike Mr. Freeman) but is that a bad thing really? No, because that's a bad ass game, and this game looks like alot of fun too. The Wiimote is a great FPS controller, it's just a shame that the Wii was a truly underpowered console from the start. I'm just hoping that The Conduit really is the game that shows the Wii could equal/exceed the Xbox.

That doesn't make the graphics better than MP3.

MP3 had better lighting, textures, character models, environments, after-effects, and artistic design. The Conduitdoesn't even come close to beating it in graphics.

That's what I'm saying. You can look at the characters' models in MP3 if you scanned them. Then tell me Conduit's models come close. But like everyone is saying, this game is not finished and will most likely look better.
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#59 demontium
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Yeah, im still on the "looks generic" train.

sorry.

Just look at this character model:
The image

Top Half = Half Life 2
Bottom Half = MC from Halo.

Haziqonfire

the fact that he is not a bulky meat neck is at least give hope

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#60 Super_Ska
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It looks generic to me.PlasmaBeam44

Yeah, I don't know why people think this isn't.

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#61 monty_4256
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honestly being generic in the FPS genre isn't a bad thing anymore, people are so worried about being generic that the ones that haven't changed are the only ones left like that. Half Life2 and unreal tournament still rock, and they are pretty stubborn on their gameplay, whereas everything else is employing multiple cover systems, with squad based commanding and crazy AI's that flank a cover and talk to you (crisis you can hear them giving orders to eachother) it's actually refreshing to see a game that ISN't like this

I like modern shooters... well no actually I don't, I like good story lines and old style shooters... modern shooters are slow and don't give me much of an action hero feel... what's the point?

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#62 MooCowRocks
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Yeah, im still on the "looks generic" train.

sorry.

Just look at this character model:
(character)

Top Half = Half Life 2
Bottom Half = MC from Halo.

mrjam0

wtf? ur talking about the freakin character model? did u look at the gameplay footage?

Tell me what from the footage sets this game away from other games?

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#63 mrjam0
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[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

dude, MP3 pulled WAAAAY better graphics than this game (granted its still in development) but the gameplay does look generic. the poster you showed looks like a wannabe Half Life 2 (and anything that tries to beat Half-Life 2 at its own game will fail...unless its Half-Life 3). its good to know that at least High Voltage is putting an effort into their graphics engine (or at least the advertisement of it) but that doesnt make it good. The graphics are unimpressive esspecially when stacked up against MP3 or SMG (hell, even SSBB). However, the saving grace for me will be if it has multiplayer (local and online, but it only has local i'll be cool with it) and if the gameplay is varied/wii controls are sublime. but as of right now, it does not look like a purchase and does not look any different than the constant stream of boring FPS's flooding the video game market today.

icarus212001

MP3 contained little or none of the following:

Bumpmapping
Normal mapping
Specular mapping
Reflection surfaces
Refraction surfaces

Basically MP3 was all polygon and texture with bad texture filtering and way too much bloom lighting. I'm not necessarily saying it looked bad, but so much of the graphics was wasted on that god damn bloom lighting and the devs themselves said they didn't want to push the graphics, as it wasn't their main focus. The Conduit is actually trying to something pretty significant and rare across the board of Wii titles, hell even in light of Gamecube titles too. Yes I can't help but think of Half Life with the biological weapons, the similar alien types, and a mysterious main character (at least he talks, unlike Mr. Freeman) but is that a bad thing really? No, because that's a bad ass game, and this game looks like alot of fun too. The Wiimote is a great FPS controller, it's just a shame that the Wii was a truly underpowered console from the start. I'm just hoping that The Conduit really is the game that shows the Wii could equal/exceed the Xbox.

its better to have the protagonist silent because you feel more attatched. samus' never says a word but she is adored by more people than we know what to do with (ad dont get me started on Link). I'd rather Gordon say nothing than have him spewing stpuid "baditude" catch phrases every other second

but back to topic. all of those things you listed are nice and all, but that isnt to say that the game is going to be better looking. art sty.le is what sells the game in the end. You can have all the tech you want, but in the end, people will remember and prefer art styl.le over technical ability (Half Life 2 >>>> crysis)

to icarus 200whatever: im trying really hard not to laugh at ur statment. MP3 barely made a graphical leap from the previous titles on the gamecube. there r a few such as particle effects and bloom lighting. but that's as far as it went. what truley made mMP3 a to great looking game was the art design speaking from a technical stand point, the conduit does far more than what was dont on MP. it does everything that MP3 did and more. still shrouded in ur ignorance? look at gameplay footage from both games. then we can talk.

and do urself a favor and listen to the above poster. he actually KNOWS what he's talking about

ps: i didnt post the picture of the character. pay some attention, it was someone else

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All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

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#65 Picklechugger
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Well now that we're all talking about the graphics all i gotta say is that if they make the graphics work well then they should sell the engine to other companies. I don't care if the game is good :P, but if they made a good engine then other companies should use it so more wii games in general look better.
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#66 mrjam0
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All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

Jaysonguy

its about damn time someone knocked down the "generic" brick wall many have succumed to running into.

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#67 TwilightSoilder
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

mrjam0

its about damn time someone knocked down the "generic" brick wall many have succumed to running into.

I second that.
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/874/874796p1.html

generic shooter? no

worse graphics from a technical perspestive than MP 3? no

unimpressive graphics? hell no

one of the top most anticipated games for the wii? damn well better be. thats a hell yes for me

wallsy9

This game looks as boring as every other alien-invasion-shooter out there. Seriously, the game is so derivative, I have a sense of deja-vu just looking at the bloody videos. Its generic. It does absolutely nothing to distance itself from the competition on other consoles. At the very least, Red Steel had an interesting premise, and MP3 is an adventure game. That spices things up. Apparently, this game doesnt.

The graphics are also average. Honestly, High Voltage have never been one for developing games that push the envelope in terms of graphics, and I very much doubt that they are going to start. Sure, they showed us a relatively impressive engine, but that has yet to translate into actual in game stuff. Until it does, Im not interested.

This should not be one of the most anticipated games for the Wii. The developers have sucked in the past, and sucked hard. They are hyping their game the same way Nibris did with Sadness, and that game just evapourated into oblivion anyway.

People *should* be anticipating Tales of Symphonia, Mad World, De Blob, Deadly Creatures, Mushroom Men, ect. Not this crap that does the same thing every game last generation did before from a developer thats known to make crud.

I would so love to be proven wrong, but... well. We will see.

I agree. I don't know how this game will play but those graphics are poor by last gen standards and the levels look like outdoor corridors (I didn't even know that was possible) which can't be good. I would love to be proven wrong but there is nothing shown that hasn't been done better years ago.
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

TwilightSoilder

its about damn time someone knocked down the "generic" brick wall many have succumed to running into.

I second that.

There was just way too much grey everywhere. Grey isn't the only color that walls come in. I'd like to see some better art direction more than anything, otherwise every room will look the same.

That's just me though.

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#70 mrjam0
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[QUOTE="wallsy9"][QUOTE="mrjam0"]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/874/874796p1.html

generic shooter? no

worse graphics from a technical perspestive than MP 3? no

unimpressive graphics? hell no

one of the top most anticipated games for the wii? damn well better be. thats a hell yes for me

Cowmanik

This game looks as boring as every other alien-invasion-shooter out there. Seriously, the game is so derivative, I have a sense of deja-vu just looking at the bloody videos. Its generic. It does absolutely nothing to distance itself from the competition on other consoles. At the very least, Red Steel had an interesting premise, and MP3 is an adventure game. That spices things up. Apparently, this game doesnt.

The graphics are also average. Honestly, High Voltage have never been one for developing games that push the envelope in terms of graphics, and I very much doubt that they are going to start. Sure, they showed us a relatively impressive engine, but that has yet to translate into actual in game stuff. Until it does, Im not interested.

This should not be one of the most anticipated games for the Wii. The developers have sucked in the past, and sucked hard. They are hyping their game the same way Nibris did with Sadness, and that game just evapourated into oblivion anyway.

People *should* be anticipating Tales of Symphonia, Mad World, De Blob, Deadly Creatures, Mushroom Men, ect. Not this crap that does the same thing every game last generation did before from a developer thats known to make crud.

I would so love to be proven wrong, but... well. We will see.

I agree. I don't know how this game will play but those graphics are poor by last gen standards and the levels look like outdoor corridors (I didn't even know that was possible) which can't be good. I would love to be proven wrong but there is nothing shown that hasn't been done better years ago.

someone forge me a stamp with the word IGNORANT on it

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#71 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="Cowmanik"][QUOTE="wallsy9"][QUOTE="mrjam0"]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/874/874796p1.html

generic shooter? no

worse graphics from a technical perspestive than MP 3? no

unimpressive graphics? hell no

one of the top most anticipated games for the wii? damn well better be. thats a hell yes for me

mrjam0

This game looks as boring as every other alien-invasion-shooter out there. Seriously, the game is so derivative, I have a sense of deja-vu just looking at the bloody videos. Its generic. It does absolutely nothing to distance itself from the competition on other consoles. At the very least, Red Steel had an interesting premise, and MP3 is an adventure game. That spices things up. Apparently, this game doesnt.

The graphics are also average. Honestly, High Voltage have never been one for developing games that push the envelope in terms of graphics, and I very much doubt that they are going to start. Sure, they showed us a relatively impressive engine, but that has yet to translate into actual in game stuff. Until it does, Im not interested.

This should not be one of the most anticipated games for the Wii. The developers have sucked in the past, and sucked hard. They are hyping their game the same way Nibris did with Sadness, and that game just evapourated into oblivion anyway.

People *should* be anticipating Tales of Symphonia, Mad World, De Blob, Deadly Creatures, Mushroom Men, ect. Not this crap that does the same thing every game last generation did before from a developer thats known to make crud.

I would so love to be proven wrong, but... well. We will see.

I agree. I don't know how this game will play but those graphics are poor by last gen standards and the levels look like outdoor corridors (I didn't even know that was possible) which can't be good. I would love to be proven wrong but there is nothing shown that hasn't been done better years ago.

someone forge me a stamp with the word IGNORANT on it

Calm down, dude.

What is wrong with people voicing their opinions? Do you work for High Voltage? Are you on the dev team? Why are you taking it so personally?

When you make a thread, you have to expect people to disagree with you. If you have a problem with that, don't post threads in the first place.

Just live with it, and again, calm down.

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#72 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="mrjam0"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

bob_newman

its about damn time someone knocked down the "generic" brick wall many have succumed to running into.

I second that.

There was just way too much grey everywhere. Grey isn't the only color that walls come in. I'd like to see some better art direction more than anything, otherwise every room will look the same.

That's just me though.

Nah I hate that too but so far this seems pretty varied (all generic but that's unavoidable)

They have the lab building, outside of the buildings, gov't building, subway cars, and town street.

I don't know if that's the final run. I'd like more places, maybe a park with a fountain where you see the guy on the opposite side of the water all shimmery.

I think this is going to be a game that lives and dies on the gameplay. I can already tell you the plot even though I didn't read anything about it if it's even there. They contact aliens/get aliens and then he has to fight them and then he finds out people on the inside KNEW all about it and didn't say anything.

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#73 bob_newman
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I can already tell you the plot even though I didn't read anything about it if it's even there. They contact aliens/get aliens and then he has to fight them and then he finds out people on the inside KNEW all about it and didn't say anything.

Jaysonguy

Hmm...sounds familiar.

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#75 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

to icarus 200whatever: im trying really hard not to laugh at ur statment. MP3 barely made a graphical leap from the previous titles on the gamecube. there r a few such as particle effects and bloom lighting. but that's as far as it went. what truley made mMP3 a to great looking game was the art design speaking from a technical stand point, the conduit does far more than what was dont on MP. it does everything that MP3 did and more. still shrouded in ur ignorance? look at gameplay footage from both games. then we can talk.

and do urself a favor and listen to the above poster. he actually KNOWS what he's talking about

ps: i didnt post the picture of the character. pay some attention, it was someone else

metroidfood

Are you completely ignorant? MP 1 and 2 were better looking than the Conduit. MP3 made a significant graphical leap over that, putting it further ahead of the Conduit. Even looking at gameplay footage you can see the god awful textures, mediocre animation, and square environments.

There is absolutely no way the Conduit looks even close to as good as MP3 does.

To be fair Metroid had Nintendo behind it. On the Gamecube and now the Wii no dev can make games that look better then first party. (as long as the console is viable, Capcom did it with RE4 but they had years of planning there)

It's impossible because a dev would have to go bankrupt in trying.

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#76 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="mrjam0"]

to icarus 200whatever: im trying really hard not to laugh at ur statment. MP3 barely made a graphical leap from the previous titles on the gamecube. there r a few such as particle effects and bloom lighting. but that's as far as it went. what truley made mMP3 a to great looking game was the art design speaking from a technical stand point, the conduit does far more than what was dont on MP. it does everything that MP3 did and more. still shrouded in ur ignorance? look at gameplay footage from both games. then we can talk.

and do urself a favor and listen to the above poster. he actually KNOWS what he's talking about

ps: i didnt post the picture of the character. pay some attention, it was someone else

Jaysonguy

Are you completely ignorant? MP 1 and 2 were better looking than the Conduit. MP3 made a significant graphical leap over that, putting it further ahead of the Conduit. Even looking at gameplay footage you can see the god awful textures, mediocre animation, and square environments.

There is absolutely no way the Conduit looks even close to as good as MP3 does.

To be fair Metroid had Nintendo behind it. On the Gamecube and now the Wii no dev can make games that look better then first party. (as long as the console is viable, Capcom did it with RE4 but they had years of planning there)

It's impossible because a dev would have to go bankrupt in trying.

Nothing is impossible. Yeah, Retro has Nintendo's direction and knowledge of the hardware to back them up, but High Voltage Software were pretty arrogant in their claims on the Ign interveiw. If you are gonna spout tech this, better that, then you should be ready for more scrutiny of their game trailer than if they kept their mouths in check.
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#77 TwilightSoilder
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[QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="mrjam0"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

bob_newman

its about damn time someone knocked down the "generic" brick wall many have succumed to running into.

I second that.

There was just way too much grey everywhere. Grey isn't the only color that walls come in. I'd like to see some better art direction more than anything, otherwise every room will look the same.

That's just me though.

Doesn't that have less to do with the game being generic and more on the graphics? :?
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#78 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="mrjam0"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

TwilightSoilder

its about damn time someone knocked down the "generic" brick wall many have succumed to running into.

I second that.

There was just way too much grey everywhere. Grey isn't the only color that walls come in. I'd like to see some better art direction more than anything, otherwise every room will look the same.

That's just me though.

Doesn't that have less to do with the game being generic and more on the graphics? :?

Yeah. I just felt like taking the discussion somewhere else, because the whole "generic" argument has become generic itself.

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[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

to icarus 200whatever: im trying really hard not to laugh at ur statment. MP3 barely made a graphical leap from the previous titles on the gamecube. there r a few such as particle effects and bloom lighting. but that's as far as it went. what truley made mMP3 a to great looking game was the art design speaking from a technical stand point, the conduit does far more than what was dont on MP. it does everything that MP3 did and more. still shrouded in ur ignorance? look at gameplay footage from both games. then we can talk.

and do urself a favor and listen to the above poster. he actually KNOWS what he's talking about

ps: i didnt post the picture of the character. pay some attention, it was someone else

metroidfood

Are you completely ignorant? MP 1 and 2 were better looking than the Conduit. MP3 made a significant graphical leap over that, putting it further ahead of the Conduit. Even looking at gameplay footage you can see the god awful textures, mediocre animation, and square environments.

There is absolutely no way the Conduit looks even close to as good as MP3 does.

i stopped reading at god awful textures, and ur entire statement proves that u didnt read my..., well practically anything related to the conduit properly. ur misinformed.

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#80 mrjam0
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"][QUOTE="Cowmanik"][QUOTE="wallsy9"][QUOTE="mrjam0"]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/874/874796p1.html

generic shooter? no

worse graphics from a technical perspestive than MP 3? no

unimpressive graphics? hell no

one of the top most anticipated games for the wii? damn well better be. thats a hell yes for me

bob_newman

This game looks as boring as every other alien-invasion-shooter out there. Seriously, the game is so derivative, I have a sense of deja-vu just looking at the bloody videos. Its generic. It does absolutely nothing to distance itself from the competition on other consoles. At the very least, Red Steel had an interesting premise, and MP3 is an adventure game. That spices things up. Apparently, this game doesnt.

The graphics are also average. Honestly, High Voltage have never been one for developing games that push the envelope in terms of graphics, and I very much doubt that they are going to start. Sure, they showed us a relatively impressive engine, but that has yet to translate into actual in game stuff. Until it does, Im not interested.

This should not be one of the most anticipated games for the Wii. The developers have sucked in the past, and sucked hard. They are hyping their game the same way Nibris did with Sadness, and that game just evapourated into oblivion anyway.

People *should* be anticipating Tales of Symphonia, Mad World, De Blob, Deadly Creatures, Mushroom Men, ect. Not this crap that does the same thing every game last generation did before from a developer thats known to make crud.

I would so love to be proven wrong, but... well. We will see.

I agree. I don't know how this game will play but those graphics are poor by last gen standards and the levels look like outdoor corridors (I didn't even know that was possible) which can't be good. I would love to be proven wrong but there is nothing shown that hasn't been done better years ago.

someone forge me a stamp with the word IGNORANT on it

Calm down, dude.

What is wrong with people voicing their opinions? Do you work for High Voltage? Are you on the dev team? Why are you taking it so personally?

When you make a thread, you have to expect people to disagree with you. If you have a problem with that, don't post threads in the first place.

Just live with it, and again, calm down.

opinion? does: those graphics are poor by last gen standards and the levels look like outdoor corridors sound like an opinion to u? and what part of my post indicates that i need to "calm down". i guess im throwing a flaming tempertantrum behind this computer monitor :|

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All shooters are generic, that doesn't mean they're not fun to play if made correctly

If they make a fun game I don't really care what the story is. Oh does it have Aliens? That's been done a million of times yet other game franchises have made a fortune off of people loving them, heck one console survived only by ripping off Aliens.

I say it's worth a look just like every other game, if you're trying to be critical of story then you've taken up the wrong hobby.

Jaysonguy

the funy thing is the same thing that has people all mad right here is what is loved about Gears of War. Lets look at the game, generic shooter with a terrible story and cliched big meat necks taking on hordes of aliens. Yes Gears of War has a nice cover system (many games have done it before) and the chainsaws at the very least are satisfiying. My point is why is The Conduit getting so much crap when it would be a unique addition in the Wii library. The Wii library has so many quirky/offbeat games with creative artisitic design. If anything a generic shooter would be the creative idea on Wii because its simply unheard of.

That does not mean I dont want to see better graphics, better art design, and something unique brought to the shooter genre but I think its interesting people are giving this game so much crap in comparison to some very lame games. Another thing is this game basically needs a killer multiplayer if it wants commercial success. It needs some word of mouth support to get les patient gamers to support it AKA Halo and Gears of War.

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#82 bob_newman
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and what part of my post indicates that i need to "calm down"

mrjam0

I'll post a few things that sound not only completely full of rage and anger, but also immaturity. I'll even highlight the more offensive and angry-sounding words that you really have no reason to write on a gaming forum.

1) "someone forge me a stamp with the word IGNORANT on it"

2) "wtf? ur talking about the freakin character model?

3) "ur right, he is ignorant"

4) "still shrouded in ur ignorance?"

5) "and do urself a favor and listen to the above poster. he actually KNOWS what he's talking about"

6) "its about damn time someone knocked down the "generic" brick wall many have succumed to running into."

Everything you're saying is based off of your opinion (sorry to break it to you), yet you state it as fact, and then get personally offended when someone disagrees with you.

What, people aren't allowed to have opinions any more? And yes, when someone says "those graphics are poor by last gen standards and the levels look like outdoor corridors", he is speaking from opinion. He didn't write "in my opinion", but obviously he wouldn't say it if it wasn't his belief. But that's beside the point, really.

What I want to know is, why do you have to refer to people who have a different opinion than you as "ignorant"?

Nobody is ignorant, they just have different opinions than you. And to tell you the truth, having to resort to using insults such as "ignorant" is pretty immature, and in turn ignorant. You're taking the easy way out. I read some of the stuff you wrote before, you're better than this.

I mean, I'm sure you can come up with a decent argument without 1) insulting other users, and 2) not be condescending toward them (treating them like 4 year-olds). Things like "ur misinformed", "im trying really hard not to laugh at ur statment", "do urself a favor", and "pay some attention" are uncalled for, and unnessessary to get your point across. You can still voice your opinion without insulting fellow users here. If you're not careful, eventually you will be banned for saying stuff like that. There's no place here for stuff like that.

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#83 craigalan23
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For me i don't care if it's generic. I'm not the hugest fps fan in the world but if the controls and everything go well i'd probably buy it. If it's ok i'd buy it around $30 maybe cheaper. I'd love playing a fps on my wii.
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#84 ImSwordMan
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Its good to see that people care about the Wii, and the potential it can hold, I just hope it leans towards the hardcore players as opposed to a casual crowd...
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#86 mdisen
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Please dehype this game and forget about it.