So any new news about The Grinder?

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"] It doesn't make much sense to base quality of sales on how many it could have sold rather than what it actually sold. We would never say, it sold 5 million but it could have sold 80 million, so it sold poorly. That being said, the game hasn't sold well, it hasn't been a disaster and it has done better than some other "core" games though.meetroid8

It wouldn't make sense to say that, which is why I never said anything like that :? The bottom line is that the games sold poorly, this is magnified by the fact that the userbase is twice what the other two consoles are, yet those games sell better there. This is just fact :P

[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

It wouldn't make sense to say that, which is why I never said anything like that :? The bottom line is that the games sold poorly, this is magnified by the fact that the userbase is twice what the other two consoles are, yet those games sell better there. This is just fact :P

WreckEm711

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] You definitely just said it again. >.>meetroid8

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"] No, I'm not saying ANYTHING about having to sell proportionately to the install base to be considered good sales. I'm saying that the sales are flat out bad regardless, its only more glaringly obvious because of the huge install base.WreckEm711

I had completely forgotten this game even existed! :o

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] You keep saying it :l

meetroid8

Go ahead and read the bolded part, I'm saying the exact same thing you are :P

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="so_hai"] Which good games didn't sell well on the Wii?nintendofreak_2

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] You keep saying it :l

meetroid8

The thing that seems to be missing here is that "bad sales" is simply a matter of expectations, which tend to be based on numerous factors. By some games' standards, to reach 200K would actually be an achievement, especially if that game wasn't heavily promoted or built on a massive budget. If we're talking about recognizable brands and games that we know have been built to be a major factor for a publisher's/developer's success, it's more likely that such a number would be a disappointment. Still, how great of a disappointment that would be would hinge on how much was riding on that game throughout its creation.

Install base is oftentimes a factor, but not important enough to be only thing to base any game's sales numbers on. Sure, some publishers/developers may try to sell games on the system with the largest userbase, but they all know that within that large frame who they're really selling the game to, and in the Wii's case, it's not always the majority. Target audience, overall budgeting, quality, and branding also have their say when it comes to determining whether a game's sales were "good," "bad," or enough to hold serve. In the case of a game like "The Grinder," it really would just like depend on how much the game cost to make and market at this point, since we're talking about a less than hotly anticipated game with basically nothing going for it at the time being in terms of hype or publicity.

Warner Bros. is their publisherLastRambo341