So MadWorld fails in sales, and Wii owners fail alltogether :(

I think its amazing video games are selling as well as they are in this economy. Give Madworld some time; its not like its the holiday season were you ramp up huge sales in the first couple of weeks.

The Conduit will sell stronger bc/ it is a FPS; even if it is generic, it will appeal to a much broader audience bc/ everyone will be more secure with the FPS game structure. Random gamer can go into the store and say, the Conduit is like a Killzone or Halo. What does random gamer say when he sees Madworld, a game unlike he has played before? He might say I should rent it first.

First of all, you could AT LEAST wait until the end of the month for the actual sales numbers to drop in. In any case, should those numbers be accurate, let's just say that I'm not in the least bit shocked. When you aim a game at a certain demographic, you're bound to have lesser numbers to begin with, especially with a game like we're talking about. Even with advertising, you're not promised a great selling game. Should these numbers be correct, it says nothing about the Wii owners except that they weren't interested in Madworld. Plain and simple. It's not the first critically acclaimed (to some extent) game that didn't sell great, and it won't be the last. Deal with it.

Why would I want this game?

ThePlothole

You can't blame Wii owners, it's the economy. I want MadWorld--a lot. But I can't afford to be spending $50 on games right now. Also, it didn't have the benifit of being released during a holiday, which World at War had. I think if they dropped the price to 40 or 35 bucks sales would soar. This game will sell, but it'll be a slow burn. Wario Land Shake it was totally bombing in sales for the first couple months, and this month it somehow became one of the top 5 best selling games on Amazon. Give it some time.

I think the Conduit will sell better simply because FPS have more appeal than...whatever MadWorld is.

the nintendo wii doesn't need the core gamers anymore, it found a much bigger or clueless audiance, that will buy any trash that they put on the market, it's all over, but who cares i still have my DS lite, and 360.

VGCharts is very unreliable. I believe that MadWorld is still selling well. I like to look on Amazon top 100 wii games to help determine the staying power of a game, and MadWorld is holding its own. Deadly Creatures quickly fell off the top 100 Wii game charts, while MadWorld is hovering around the 20 - 25 mark and it has been out for a few weeks now. I think the game doing well, based on this data and seeing a local Target sold out of their copies the first week it was released.

gooflee

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Why would I want this game?

Black_Knight_00

Why?

Because it's an awesome game, more than just "gore and violence". Fools, you're part of the problem.

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Why would I want this game?

MangaPicture

Why?

Because it's an awesome game, more than just "gore and violence". Fools, you're part of the problem.

well, I was all for buying Madworld.....

and then I heard it was a 5 hour game. Um, no thanks. Not worth the $40.

If they're going to make a "hardcore" game, they should do it right.

This makes me wonder who are the million of people who bought games like Zelda, Mario and Super Smash Bros... Why the hell don't they buy anything else?Wintry_Flutist

This makes me wonder who are the million of people who bought games like Zelda, Mario and Super Smash Bros... Why the hell don't they buy anything else?Wintry_Flutist

Because there isn't anything on par with those juggernauts.

Wii is a addiction talking about the Wii on the internet is a addiction =)

I'm going to have to disagree I find it very difficult to believe that there are no good games compared to SSBB. I really don't understand how people can gush about this game when it is completely unoriginal, is a rehash of something that has been done before TWICE, and the new one adds absolutely nothing to gameplay. The most crucial and essential part of this game is terribly broken and doesn't work at all, which is the Online play. This feature was crucial for this game and it just plain sucks. Very dissappointing.

Madworld is original, yes its very violent but atleast it is trying to do something on the Wii that has not been done before. It also does this VERY well. Sure it has it's share of problems, however it has quite a bit of replay value as well.

I think there are a lot of nintendo kids out there that have tunnel vision and just flock to every first party game, just because it was made by nintendo does not mean it's a good game.

I'm going to have to disagree I find it very difficult to believe that there are no good games compared to SSBB. I really don't understand how people can gush about this game when it is completely unoriginal, is a rehash of something that has been done before TWICE, and the new one adds absolutely nothing to gameplay. The most crucial and essential part of this game is terribly broken and doesn't work at all, which is the Online play. This feature was crucial for this game and it just plain sucks. Very dissappointing.

Madworld is original, yes its very violent but atleast it is trying to do something on the Wii that has not been done before. It also does this VERY well. Sure it has it's share of problems, however it has quite a bit of replay value as well.

I think there are a lot of nintendo kids out there that have tunnel vision and just flock to every first party game, just because it was made by nintendo does not mean it's a good game.

flarebrass13

Are you kidding me? The new one added Assist Trophies, a freakin Story Line, Online gameplay, and 3rd party characters like Sonic and Snake. Also how is a fighting game with characters from different worlds duking it out not original?

It really doesn't matter. I mean come on we can't just depend on one developer to make games. And plus we didn't "fail", so I'll just sit back and enjoy my games.

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Why would I want this game?

MangaPicture

Why?

Because it's an awesome game, more than just "gore and violence". Fools, you're part of the problem.

Almost all Rated M games have had atleast one major flaw that has stopped it frim being bought. Madworlds was it was only an estimated 5 hours long.

Almost all Rated M games have had atleast one major flaw that has stopped it frim being bought. Madworlds was it was only an estimated 5 hours long.

AmayaPapaya

well, I was all for buying Madworld.....

and then I heard it was a 5 hour game. Um, no thanks. Not worth the $40.

If they're going to make a "hardcore" game, they should do it right.

fluffy_kins

Boomblox - (Week one: 25,738 ) (Today: 900,000)

RE:UC - (Week one: 76,535) (Today: 1,260,000)

No More Heroes - (Week one: 35,375) (Today: 400,000)

Call of Duty: WoW - (Week one: 44,468 ) (Today: 990,000)

HotD: 2&3 - (Week one: 13,910) (Today: 940,000)

Madworld and HotD: Overkill will be just fine.

Please please please end this terribly misleading thread.

Look if Madworld fails it is because it has no appeal not because there is no market for hardcore gaming.The market is there just take a look at the sales for Call of Duty WaW over a million sold so far. Frankly IthinkMadworld looks dumb that is why I didn't get it.

Sega has announced that they are pleased with the sales of Madworld. I'm sure it has to do with the low-budget because it didn't require much of an engine really to produce heavy textures, and such. And, secondly it wasn't marketed very well...and I didn't see many advertisements so they didn't invest much in that aspect. 70,000 sales isn't two weeks isn't too bad, just wait until the summer and next holiday season (Christmas and such) and I'm sure that it'll reach 200k sales, and I'm sure that breaks even. If you multiply 200,000 times lets say maybe 50$ that is $10,000,000 (10 million dollars) I actually think in Madworld's lifetime it'll reach 300k sales but thats just me.

PainGivingLink

Sega aren't Marketing Madworld? In which country is that????

In the UK we have Madworld adverts on Telly post 9pm watershed for starters, they are GAME sponsored (that's the major game retailer in the UK) and also show HOTD:OK at the end of the footage.

Also in the GAME I was in today is a huge Madworld point of sale shelving/advertising thing that you put at the end of the shelf, fill with Madworld games and hope they sell.

I'll be getting the game, but the wife's got me spending money on Home Improvements at the moment.

I'm also on record as stating that I fully believe deadly creatures will be a slow burner and gradually pull it's way up to decent figures over the course of the year.

One thing I didn't realise is that Mushroom Men: Spore Wars isn't out in the UK till next month. I expect that to have reasonable sales as well.

When did VGchartz become a reliable source? I prefer to wait for the NPD numbers.

However if the numbers are correct 70,000 copies in two weeks is very good for a new IP, Wii games generally have great legs like Boom Blox, Umbrella Chronicles and others. So we should wait for a few months to decide whether its sales fail or not.

idk what everyone else considers "hardcore" but to be honest i don't consider those games hardcore. a game like final fantasy, or resident evil, games with depth, story, great controls, THOSE are hardcore imo. so i don't find it surprising that those games didn't sell, this doesn't mean that its a casual system, just a system that hasn't produced a game that seems near as good as games on other systems...well lately anyway, not since its release. not only that, but games like Umbrella Chronicles that don't have an extremely new or deep story sell mainly because the series has such a strong backing, none of those games had that whatsoever and ppl arn't gonna spend the little money they have on a game that doesn't seem to have much too itLinkthedueler

Boomblox - (Week one: 25,738 ) (Today: 900,000)

RE:UC - (Week one: 76,535) (Today: 1,260,000)

No More Heroes - (Week one: 35,375) (Today: 400,000)

Call of Duty: WoW - (Week one: 44,468 ) (Today: 990,000)

HotD: 2&3 - (Week one: 13,910) (Today: 940,000)

Madworld and HotD: Overkill will be just fine.

Please please please end this terribly misleading thread.

i realy wanted to get madworld, butafterwatching some vids and playing it for a few minuts at a friends i just could not stand the black and white. I think it was to contrasty. it gave me motion sickness big time wich is a first for me. maby hadthey used some grey's in between the black and white i would have been ok. o well, i do hope it sells well. the Wii needs more of those kind of games.

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well, I was all for buying Madworld.....

and then I heard it was a 5 hour game. Um, no thanks. Not worth the $40.

If they're going to make a "hardcore" game, they should do it right.

Rocky32189

First of all Madworld is not just 5 hours long, can people pay attention to the hwole picture please? The game is 5-6 hours on the first playthrough, not including unloackables, hard mode, two player element, and so on.

Second of all, NMH is probabaly longer than Madworld without filler parts and its not just a pretty good experience, its a really good game.

Thirdly, do people realise that its not the raw number of hours that count its the overall experience? Prince of Persia is pretty short but I do not see anyone complaining. It is about the substance. The way people buy games now is destroying the single player experience.

A. The game hasn't had enough time to "fail" in sales... give it time.

B. Don't tell me I failed as a Wii owner. I've never been that interested in Madworld, but I was still going to consider picking it up. However, it turned out to be incredibly short, and considering it was only low on my priority list, that kinda wiped it off completely. I don't want to spend full retail price on a game that's only going to entertain me for five to six hours. Because my personal tastes as a gamer don't include Madworld and I'm smart with my money makes me a failure? Sure... And I'm sure alot of people feel the same way. There are certain things that make the length of the game negligible, but the reviews been mixed. Since there's really nothing to convince that the gameplay is completely amazing, it comes down to length and personal tastes. Madworld does not make the cut on either.

C. Don't even bring up HotD. If I'm not willing to spend my hard-earned money on a short game, I'm sure as hell not spending it on an on-rails shooter. They're fun in the arcade with a couple friends, but don't really deserve a spot in the retail console market. All that HotD has done is prove to developers that they can make a quick cash-in on an on-rails shooter for retail price. Minimal effort, big profit. I don't wantdevelopers to think that. That's the biggest problem with Wii developers already, and HotD is only strengthening that mindset.Don't believe me? I have three words for you -Dead Space: Extraction.

If someone asks me, "What's a good new game I should get for Wii?" I wouldn't tell them Mad World or House of the Dead Overkill. I would say Pikmin NPC or Punch-out!! because they are games that intrest me, and others more than Mad World.

Nintend0-BuDDy

Not to nitpick but why wouldn't you mention those games simply because you're not interested them? The Wii is a system that relies quite heavily on word-of-mouth for third party software sales, people need to at least be aware of games like MadWorld rather than only paying attention to Nintendo titles.

Would you rather they added a bunch of terrible filler material like No More Heroes did to artificially lengthen the game? I'd rather have an amazing 5 hours than just a pretty good 10-15 hours. Rocky32189

At the same time,the logic also follows that the developer could have built the game with a longer length in mind rather than creating the "core" length of the game and then adding fluff in the middle.

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If someone asks me, "What's a good new game I should get for Wii?" I wouldn't tell them Mad World or House of the Dead Overkill. I would say Pikmin NPC or Punch-out!! because they are games that intrest me, and others more than Mad World.

Not to nitpick but why wouldn't you mention those games simply because you're not interested them? The Wii is a system that relies quite heavily on word-of-mouth for third party software sales, people need to at least be aware of games like MadWorld rather than only paying attention to Nintendo titles.

[QUOTE="Nintend0-BuDDy"]

If someone asks me, "What's a good new game I should get for Wii?" I wouldn't tell them Mad World or House of the Dead Overkill. I would say Pikmin NPC or Punch-out!! because they are games that intrest me, and others more than Mad World.

Not to nitpick but why wouldn't you mention those games simply because you're not interested them? The Wii is a system that relies quite heavily on word-of-mouth for third party software sales, people need to at least be aware of games like MadWorld rather than only paying attention to Nintendo titles.

No matter what, there will be 3rd party support from here on out. The Wii is the fastest selling console of this gen, and is will stay that way. Companies will still make games for it no matter what just because there's a greater potential to make money on this particular platform.

i dont understand how any of the games mentioned (except conduit) appeal to the hardcore crowd,

HOTD- stupid on the rails shooter... who still wants to play games like this

MadWorld- swing the Wii remote around like an idiot and beat a story 3 hours long that costs you $50 + tax

NMH- same concept as Madworld a little better though

The Conduit is the only game that is going to succeed as a hardcore game... no one wants an on the rails shooter and obviously hack and slash games with a lot of gore arent going to be successful .. 0 replay value = failure

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Not to nitpick but why wouldn't you mention those games simply because you're not interested them? The Wii is a system that relies quite heavily on word-of-mouth for third party software sales, people need to at least be aware of games like MadWorld rather than only paying attention to Nintendo titles.

vivi2000

i dont understand how any of the games mentioned (except conduit) appeal to the hardcore crowd,

HOTD- stupid on the rails shooter... who still wants to play games like this

MadWorld- swing the Wii remote around like an idiot and beat a story 3 hours long that costs you $50 + tax

NMH- same concept as Madworld a little better though

The Conduit is the only game that is going to succeed as a hardcore game... no one wants an on the rails shooter and obviously hack and slash games with a lot of gore arent going to be successful .. 0 replay value = failure

Makedonijo

House of the dead overkill is awesome it's great fun and very entertaining. It's one of the few games i have that are awesome with other people. Very fun. Lots of people actually like on-rails shooters. That's not to say I wouldn't want a game like RE5 but i'm not completely disappointed with darkside chronicles and think it could be interesting.

Madworld is a very fun game with an amazingly deep story, stop **** because its not your style of game. It's even on sale right now for 15 bucks less which is a great price for it. Madworld has a lot of replay value it's just not one of those games where you can play it all day mindlessly.

Maybe instead of playing wii all day you should go outside and have a life.

Just a simple math

$50 x 70000 = $3,500,000

$_$ catching catching!!!(Sega's Eyes

krayziecupid

*facepalm*

you know , most of the wii gamers that like bloody action games already switched to another console where there are loads of em , myself included , i was sick and tired to wait for such games on wii , now i dont care much bout madworld because im too busy with better games (not on wii). Madworld and conduit aint gonna save the wii for hardcore gamers , when you've got more &better games of that genres elsewhere

you know , most of the wii gamers that like bloody action games already switched to another console where there are loads of em , myself included , i was sick and tired to wait for such games on wii , now i dont care much bout madworld because im too busy with better games (not on wii). Madworld and conduit aint gonna save the wii for hardcore gamers , when you've got more &better games of that genres elsewhere

AmnesiaHaze

no i dont ment RE5

With the short length, and unique visual style ... I bet a lot of people are just going to rent it.

Personally, not that interesting to buy - when there's games I'll replay for months and months that compete. [or games that can be played socially]

Well, the financial situation of the nation doesn't really help things either. But I'm sure those games will gain more sales. I know I plan on getting a ton of games for the Wii once I get some money.