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#1 shoryuken_
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I hate Cammie Dunaway. She's extremely boring, she doesn't know how to play videogames (yet is representing Nintendo), and she is more annoying to me because she is a typical soccer mom. My opinion did of her did not improve after listening to her for an hour at E3.

As you may or may not know, Cammie took Reggie's job after he got promoted. Anyways, I think she's horrible at her job and doesn't deserve to be in the same position that Reggie was in! I think she should be fired! Who's with me!

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#2 funsohng
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well at least u can laugh at her and blame everything at her i think that's a good point
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#3 snowman6251
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totally agree. I don't care that you like puppies or that you suck at skiing. get off the stage
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#4 nintendofreak_2
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She wasn't that bad this year. Besides, she's not meant to appeal to us, she's meant to appeal to moms.

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#5 8-Bitterness
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shes extremely annoying, she doesnt know what shes talking bout... and no one cares bout her kid
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#6 snowman6251
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She wasn't that bad this year. Besides, she's not meant to appeal to us, she's meant to appeal to moms.

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How many moms watch E3 or would actually have any idea who this is? not many I'm willing to bet. Their kids and people like us are the ones watching E3 and we're the ones they should try and appeal to.
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Hmm... so Nintendo should fire someone simply because that person's an average parent with seemingly limited gaming experience, and comes off as boring to some people when presenting products on behalf of a company that's trying to appeal more to the very same type of people that this person belongs to. Yep, that makes sense. :P Seriously, though, I don't see what all of the hate on this woman is about. Does she hype things on the same level as Reggie Fils-Aime? Of course not, but when aiming for a different consumer, a different perspective tends to help, and that's what Dunaway brings to the table. Considering the success the company has had with its products since she started showing up at E3, I don't think Nintendo should mind her too much. :P

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#8 nintendofreak_2
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How many moms watch E3 or would actually have any idea who this is? not many I'm willing to bet. Their kids and people like us are the ones watching E3 and we're the ones they should try and appeal to.snowman6251
How much media coverage does E3 get?

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Hmm... so Nintendo should fire someone simply because that person's an average parent with seemingly limited gaming experience, and comes off as boring to some people when presenting products on behalf of a company that's trying to appeal more to the very same type of people that this person belongs to. Yep, that makes sense. :P Seriously, though, I don't see what all of the hate on this woman is about. Does she hype things on the same level as Reggie Fils-Aime? Of course not, but when aiming for a different consumer, a different perspective tends to help, and that's what Dunaway brings to the table. Considering the success the company has had with its products since she started showing up at E3, I don't think Nintendo should mind her too much. :P

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but then comes in my point of the people that nintendo wants to market to with Cammie are NOT the people watching E3. Most of them probably haven't even heard of it. She is the public face of the "casuals" but the casuals will never actually see her. Its just us, and we are not fans.
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#10 snowman6251
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[QUOTE="snowman6251"]How many moms watch E3 or would actually have any idea who this is? not many I'm willing to bet. Their kids and people like us are the ones watching E3 and we're the ones they should try and appeal to.nintendofreak_2

How much media coverage does E3 get?

on channels like G4 and such. Otherwise it gets some brief mentioning on bigger news channels and maybe an article or two in a technology section of a newspaper
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#11 shoryuken_
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yo madman, you got a nice avatar

i love sakura :P

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#12 goblaa
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I don't dislike her or anything and I know that nintendo has a new audience that they must keep in mind, but they could have hired a better person. She's just not qualified for presentation speaking. She has little to no stage presence at all.

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#13 nintendofreak_2
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on channels like G4 and such. Otherwise it gets some brief mentioning on bigger news channels and maybe an article or two in a technology section of a newspapersnowman6251
Maybe 3 or 4 years ago. After 07, E3 has been getting major news coverage from basically everywhere. Newspaper, TV, magazines... you name it.

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#14 Madmangamer364
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[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]

Hmm... so Nintendo should fire someone simply because that person's an average parent with seemingly limited gaming experience, and comes off as boring to some people when presenting products on behalf of a company that's trying to appeal more to the very same type of people that this person belongs to. Yep, that makes sense. :P Seriously, though, I don't see what all of the hate on this woman is about. Does she hype things on the same level as Reggie Fils-Aime? Of course not, but when aiming for a different consumer, a different perspective tends to help, and that's what Dunaway brings to the table. Considering the success the company has had with its products since she started showing up at E3, I don't think Nintendo should mind her too much. :P

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but then comes in my point of the people that nintendo wants to market to with Cammie are NOT the people watching E3. Most of them probably haven't even heard of it. She is the public face of the "casuals" but the casuals will never actually see her. Its just us, and we are not fans.

Maybe the people she appeals to don't watch E3, but that doesn't mean Nintendo should fire her. While we're on the subject of E3, E3 is a trade show, and the purpose of a trade show is to showcase your products to a wide variety of people. I find it funny that people tend to forget this when EVERY game doesn't appeal to them. :P If it's Nintendo's strategy to aim it's product to more than just 'hardcore' fans, it's probably best that they don't come off as strictly a 'hardcore' company, even if the majority of people who keep tabs of events like E3 claim to be that very thing. Comments like "Someone needs to fire Cammie Dunaway" come off as if the person knows what this lady does both in front of a stage AND behind the scenes. If Nintendo thinks that this person is doing a fine enough job, that should be good enough. If not, I'm sure the company will take measures that suggest that she's not in its best interest.

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[QUOTE="snowman6251"]on channels like G4 and such. Otherwise it gets some brief mentioning on bigger news channels and maybe an article or two in a technology section of a newspapernintendofreak_2

Maybe 3 or 4 years ago. After 07, E3 has been getting major news coverage from basically everywhere. Newspaper, TV, magazines... you name it.

I don't watch TV on TV much anymore (since all sites post all their shows with like 1 commercial break online) so maybe I'm a bit outdated but that's reassuring to know. E3 makes the front page but the taliban invading pakistan, yeah thats page 6 now. That's actually a more direct attack on the new york times for putting "Swine Flu is now influenza 671839" or w/e its officially called now on the front page with the much more pressing issue on like page 6. Maybe Cammie is really good at whatever she does offstage but could they really not find anyone better than her for onstage time. She really bugs me

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#16 Madmangamer364
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yo madman, you got a nice avatar

i love sakura :P

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Why, thank you! I've actually been thinking about changing it, but maybe I'll hold on to it for a while longer now. Sakura, particually during the Shippuden era, is indeed a cool customer.

Man, this is so off-topic... :lol: Umm... Cammie Dunaway should be promoted! There, that helps. :P

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#17 nintendofreak_2
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I don't watch TV on TV much anymore (since all sites post all their shows with like 1 commercial break online) so maybe I'm a bit outdated but that's reassuring to know. E3 makes the front page but the taliban invading pakistan, yeah thats page 6 now. That's actually a more direct attack on the new york times for putting "Swine Flu is now influenza 671839" or w/e its officially called now on the front page with the much more pressing issue on like page 6. Maybe Cammie is really good at whatever she does offstage but could they really not find anyone better than her for onstage time. She really bugs me

snowman6251

She bugs me too, but you have to realize that when news reporters show pictures of the new tech (say Wii Fit Plus or something like that), the target audience (moms mostly) doesn't want to see an overwieght man in a suit beside it, they want to see someone they can relate to. Nintendo isn't going to lose customers by having Cammie as a spokesperson, they'll only gain. Pretty smart move when you think about it.

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Hmm... so Nintendo should fire someone simply because that person's an average parent with seemingly limited gaming experience, and comes off as boring to some people when presenting products on behalf of a company that's trying to appeal more to the very same type of people that this person belongs to. Yep, that makes sense. :P Seriously, though, I don't see what all of the hate on this woman is about. Does she hype things on the same level as Reggie Fils-Aime? Of course not, but when aiming for a different consumer, a different perspective tends to help, and that's what Dunaway brings to the table. Considering the success the company has had with its products since she started showing up at E3, I don't think Nintendo should mind her too much. :P

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Exactly. what do people think she works one day a year? I'm sure her job description doesn't state go out on the stage at E3 and entertain people like a dancing monkey. Also I'm going to go out on the limb and say whatever he job duties may be, she must at the very least be adequate at them since she keeps her job. Going on stage at E3 is just part of the job, its not THE job, I'm sure if the purpose of the position was to entertain people at E3 they would have hired a clown or something.
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#19 shoryuken_
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Why, thank you! I've actually been thinking about changing it, but maybe I'll hold on to it for a while longer now. Sakura, particually during the Shippuden, is indeed a cool customer.


Man, this is so off-topic... :lol: Umm... Cammie Dunaway should be promoted! There, that helps. :P

Madmangamer364

lulz i dunno if you read the manga or not, but sakura just gave naruto a hug!!! ;)

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[QUOTE="snowman6251"]

I don't watch TV on TV much anymore (since all sites post all their shows with like 1 commercial break online) so maybe I'm a bit outdated but that's reassuring to know. E3 makes the front page but the taliban invading pakistan, yeah thats page 6 now. That's actually a more direct attack on the new york times for putting "Swine Flu is now influenza 671839" or w/e its officially called now on the front page with the much more pressing issue on like page 6. Maybe Cammie is really good at whatever she does offstage but could they really not find anyone better than her for onstage time. She really bugs me

nintendofreak_2

She bugs me too, but you have to realize that when news reporters show pictures of the new tech (say Wii Fit Plus or something like that), the target audience (moms mostly) doesn't want to see an overwieght man in a suit beside it, they want to see someone they can relate to. Nintendo isn't going to lose customers by having Cammie as a spokesperson, they'll only gain. Pretty smart move when you think about it.

can we at least go back to the 1950's then and let her stand there and be seen but not speak :(
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#21 shoryuken_
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i dunno i feel that if i was a nongamer, she would not very successful in getting me to buy a nintendo product

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#22 stike22
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You disgust me! what kind of depraved, little person are you? wanting a hard working person like Cammy to lose her job you make me sick! Somebody needs to assassinate Cammie Dunaway instead, that would be better especially in front of the fans you would suddenly hear a deafening cheer and with thousands of screaming fans happy to see her go off in such a way.
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I totally agree. Many people dislike her and she's giving Nintendo an even more family friendly image, scaring many players away.

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I totally agree. Many people dislike her and she's giving Nintendo an even more family friendly image, scaring many players away.

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this here just made me think of Reggie's recent comment about how wii can win over the 360/PS3 gamers. If Cammie is going to be one of their public figures, good luck with that Reggie, you'll need it.
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#25 pierst179
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While I prefer Reggie as the company's spokesperson I don't have a big problem with Cammie, it is not her fault she almost always gets to announce lame games.

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I hate Cammie Dunaway. She's extremely boring, she doesn't know how to play videogames (yet is representing Nintendo), and she is more annoying to me because she is a typical soccer mom. My opinion did of her did not improve after listening to her for an hour at E3.shoryuken_

Couple things about this bug me... First off, complaining about Cammie and complaining about soccer moms are two totally different things.

Cammie is not a good public speaker by the looks of the press conference last week. I don't know maybe she knew that those gamers in the crowd could smell her fear. I think if she displayed a lot more energy while presenting you might think differently, then again you probably wouldn't because she is not a person that you will identify with when you game. Its probably really nerve racking for her to step on a stage like that knowing that her audience resents her being there simply because they know more about gaming than her. Nintendo needs Cammie because she brings a different face to put out there that non-gamers can relate to so I think we should give her time, she's already improved from when she started. And I think you could have found a nicer picture.

Secondly, I want to address the whole soccer mom thing. Why is it that I am constantly reading soccer mom thrown out there like it's supposed to be an insult? What about soccer dad's? Are they ok to play video games? It just seems child-like, this bitterness about mom's playing video games. Is it because no one wants to share their console with their mothers or is it because being a gamer suddenly isn't as cool if your mom is one too?

Never assume that anyone is typical. That mom sitting at the soccer field watching her son's practice might be catching up on The Hotspot podcast on her ipod or thinking about the level she's going to play when she finally gets the kids to bed for the night.

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#27 shoryuken_
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ddrmom, are you enraged?

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[QUOTE="shoryuken_"]I hate Cammie Dunaway. She's extremely boring, she doesn't know how to play videogames (yet is representing Nintendo), and she is more annoying to me because she is a typical soccer mom. My opinion did of her did not improve after listening to her for an hour at E3.DDRMom

Couple things about this bug me... First off, complaining about Cammie and complaining about soccer moms are two totally different things.

Cammie is not a good public speaker by the looks of the press conference last week. I don't know maybe she knew that those gamers in the crowd could smell her fear. I think if she displayed a lot more energy while presenting you might think differently, then again you probably wouldn't because she is not a person that you will identify with when you game. Its probably really nerve racking for her to step on a stage like that knowing that her audience resents her being there simply because they know more about gaming than her. Nintendo needs Cammie because she brings a different face to put out there that non-gamers can relate to so I think we should give her time, she's already improved from when she started. And I think you could have found a nicer picture.

Secondly, I want to address the whole soccer mom thing. Why is it that I am constantly reading soccer mom thrown out there like it's supposed to be an insult? What about soccer dad's? Are they ok to play video games? It just seems child-like, this bitterness about mom's playing video games. Is it because no one wants to share their console with their mothers or is it because being a gamer suddenly isn't as cool if your mom is one too?

Never assume that anyone is typical. That mom sitting at the soccer field watching her son's practice might be catching up on The Hotspot podcast on her ipod or thinking about the level she's going to play when she finally gets the kids to bed for the night.

one time my mom tried to play smash bros with me because "we don't spend enough time together". She couldn't figure out that the joystick moved her character. I facepalmed and she quit. it was just a bad experience all around.
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#29 DDRMom
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ddrmom, are you enraged?

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If I was enraged I would have used the angry smiley. ;)
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#30 darkmark91
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If she looked like this I don't think anyone would care if she a gave a good speech or not.

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[QUOTE="shoryuken_"]

I hate Cammie Dunaway. She's extremely boring, she doesn't know how to play videogames (yet is representing Nintendo), and she is more annoying to me because she is a typical soccer mom. My opinion did of her did not improve after listening to her for an hour at E3.

As you may or may not know, Cammie took Reggie's job after he got promoted. Anyways, I think she's horrible at her job and doesn't deserve to be in the same position that Reggie was in! I think she should be fired! Who's with me!

Hahahahah I love how you give her a very pathetic picture.
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one time my mom tried to play smash bros with me because "we don't spend enough time together". She couldn't figure out that the joystick moved her character. I facepalmed and she quit. it was just a bad experience all around.snowman6251

I don't think that's what DDRMom was trying to say. Just because your mom may not be what one would call a gamer, it doesn't mean that every "soccer mom" is incapable of playing video games. For all we know, one of those very same "soccer moms" that a lot of people like to criticize could be a better and more experienced gamer than any other us. Like she said, it's as if those who make use of the term in that matter think that they're better and/or more worthy of being a gamer, and that's not the case. I grew up taking some humble beating at the hands of people who are now mothers, and if they still had the interest in gaming, I'm sure they would be pretty darn good at it to this day.

Just because one has such a label as "soccer mom" doesn't mean that they do the same things or go about life the same way.

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:lol: even if she looked like that I would still have a hard time liking her, seriously its gotten to the point where blood must be spilt to make up for her disgrace.
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Just because one has such a label as "soccer mom" doesn't mean that they do the same things or go about life the same way.

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okay but I think you could understand via my example why the idea of mom trying to play videogames might come off as a bit ridiculous to me considering this is what I've grown up with.

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:lol: even if she looked like that I would still have a hard time liking her, seriously its gotten to the point where blood must be spilt to make up for her disgrace.stike22
I think if she looked like that no one would have heard anything she said no matter how ridiculous so no one would have cared...
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I don't think that's what DDRMom was trying to say. Just because your mom may not be what one would call a gamer, it doesn't mean that every "soccer mom" is incapable of playing video games. For all we know, one of those very same "soccer moms" that a lot of people like to criticize could be a better and more experienced gamer than any other us. Like she said, it's as if those who make use of the term in that matter think that they're better and/or more worthy of being a gamer, and that's not the case. I grew up taking some humble beating at the hands of people who are now mothers, and if they still had the interest in gaming, I'm sure they would be pretty darn good at it to this day.

Just because one has such a label as "soccer mom" doesn't mean that they do the same things or go about life the same way.

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i'm the king of games, i've never lost to a mom or any female for that matter -_____-

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[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]

I don't think that's what DDRMom was trying to say. Just because your mom may not be what one would call a gamer, it doesn't mean that every "soccer mom" is incapable of playing video games. For all we know, one of those very same "soccer moms" that a lot of people like to criticize could be a better and more experienced gamer than any other us. Like she said, it's as if those who make use of the term in that matter think that they're better and/or more worthy of being a gamer, and that's not the case. I grew up taking some humble beating at the hands of people who are now mothers, and if they still had the interest in gaming, I'm sure they would be pretty darn good at it to this day.

Just because one has such a label as "soccer mom" doesn't mean that they do the same things or go about life the same way.

shoryuken_

i'm the king of games, i've never lost to a mom or any female for that matter -_____-

you can't be the king of games for that is me! We shall duel to determine who is the imposter
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you can't be the king of games for that is me! We shall duel to determine who is the impostersnowman6251

it's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-duel

dimension the dice!

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#39 snowman6251
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[QUOTE="snowman6251"]

you can't be the king of games for that is me! We shall duel to determine who is the impostershoryuken_

it's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-duel

dimension the dice!

I will show you the courtesy of choosing the game. if that dice thing was your choice then I'm screwed cause I dunno jack about yugioh
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#40 shoryuken_
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I will show you the courtesy of choosing the game. if that dice thing was your choice then I'm screwed cause I dunno jack about yugiohsnowman6251

maybe i should properly introduce myself. I AM YUGIOH

that's right, i said it

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#41 snowman6251
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[QUOTE="snowman6251"]

I will show you the courtesy of choosing the game. if that dice thing was your choice then I'm screwed cause I dunno jack about yugiohshoryuken_

maybe i should properly introduce myself. I AM YUGIOH

that's right, i said it

that's not good. can we play the american anime style not the japanese manga style (ie. I get to keep my arm when I lose)
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#42 blankshore
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I have no idea what she does. Seriously! What does she do! She is terrible at public speaking, she has no ability to make what she's talking about intersting or cool--in fact she does the opposite. Every time she gets up on the stage she makes whatever she's talking about sound lame. I mean, she made NSMBWii Sound lame! Mario! Why does she exist? What is she doing for this company?!

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#43 DDRMom
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[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]Just because one has such a label as "soccer mom" doesn't mean that they do the same things or go about life the same way.

snowman6251

okay but I think you could understand via my example why the idea of mom trying to play videogames might come off as a bit ridiculous to me considering this is what I've grown up with.

I got what you meant. Some of my friends are like that but it's good for a laugh.
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#44 snowman6251
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I have no idea what she does. Seriously! What does she do! She is terrible at public speaking, she has no ability to make what she's talking about intersting or cool--in fact she does the opposite. Every time she gets up on the stage she makes whatever she's talking about sound lame. I mean, she made NSMBWii Sound lame! Mario! Why does she exist? What is she doing for this company?!

blankshore
*was not surprised at all when she came in last place*
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#45 snowman6251
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[QUOTE="snowman6251"]

[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]Just because one has such a label as "soccer mom" doesn't mean that they do the same things or go about life the same way.

DDRMom

okay but I think you could understand via my example why the idea of mom trying to play videogames might come off as a bit ridiculous to me considering this is what I've grown up with.

I got what you meant. Some of my friends are like that but it's good for a laugh.

she also commonly refers to xbox as the "gamebox" because she can't tell 360's apart from gamecubes
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#46 staindcoldlp
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I mean, she made NSMBWii Sound lame!

blankshore

Couldn't agree more with that. Even her announcement of Galaxy 2 seemed boring to her. It seems like she's trying to sell a product but she doesn't care or know anything about the product.

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#47 blankshore
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[QUOTE="blankshore"]

I have no idea what she does. Seriously! What does she do! She is terrible at public speaking, she has no ability to make what she's talking about intersting or cool--in fact she does the opposite. Every time she gets up on the stage she makes whatever she's talking about sound lame. I mean, she made NSMBWii Sound lame! Mario! Why does she exist? What is she doing for this company?!

snowman6251

*was not surprised at all when she came in last place*

Huh?

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#48 shoryuken_
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that's not good. can we play the american anime style not the japanese manga style (ie. I get to keep my arm when I lose)snowman6251

this thread's making me lol

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#49 snowman6251
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[QUOTE="snowman6251"][QUOTE="blankshore"]

I have no idea what she does. Seriously! What does she do! She is terrible at public speaking, she has no ability to make what she's talking about intersting or cool--in fact she does the opposite. Every time she gets up on the stage she makes whatever she's talking about sound lame. I mean, she made NSMBWii Sound lame! Mario! Why does she exist? What is she doing for this company?!

blankshore

*was not surprised at all when she came in last place*

Huh?

when they all came out and played a level she got last place. It was not surprising to me in the least
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#50 ZumaJones07
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I gave up reading through this topic lol. The subject keeps changing. :P