the conduit is still not impressive

the enviornemnts have still not been improves since they first showed it, the aliens still dont really feel that exiting to fight against, there is very good lighting and bump mapping etc, BUT the textures in the game just kill all thats good abt it....so far the only good thing is the guys futuristic suit, and his human weapons, and one of the alien weapons (not the on with the homing blob) the rest of it really seems mediocre.....does anyone else agree with me...cos ive seen a lot of hype, and i really dont think it deserves it...also HVS are known for making mediorce games like 50 cent etc....

the enviornemnts have still not been improves since they first showed it, the aliens still dont really feel that exiting to fight against, there is very good lighting and bump mapping etc, BUT the textures in the game just kill all thats good abt it....so far the only good thing is the guys futuristic suit, and his human weapons, and one of the alien weapons (not the on with the homing blob) the rest of it really seems mediocre.....does anyone else agree with me...cos ive seen a lot of hype, and i really dont think it deserves it...also HVS are known for making mediorce games like 50 cent etc....

Ironre5

Yeah, I agree. I think it looks generic as hell.

Good for you. Many people disagree. IGN disagrees. I disagree. The environments look fine. There's still 9 months to go until release. Maybe you could wait until it's released to pass judgment. It looks a lot better than most Wii games, and even most Xbox games for that matter. Gameplay, controller precision, and quality online is what matters. Not the fact that you think a wall shoud have more bumps on it.

In the past, people would say the Wii wasn't capable of Normal Mapping. Now we have a game where almost everything is Normal Mapped and specular mapped. Very impressive. Those doubters will eat crow. The game might not be great, but it's almost certain to be happily accepted as a good game.

gamecubepad

Agree with you. I cant wait for it... though there is an other thread that i created about the game... so why dont you go check the other stuff before posting ... but i think it will be a great game ... that is my opinion

i think it might turn out bettre than decent

i think it might turn out bettre than decent

funkseason

i think it might turn out bettre than decent

funkseason

common ... more than that!! i think it will be greater then better... it is still the first online science fiction first person shooter game ever to be on the wii ... i think it will do a lot of success

^As someone stated above:

9 months until release

/thread

^As someone stated above:

9 months until release

/thread

lancea34

Don't listen to ironre, he's been ripping this game for months now. He has some wierd agenda against this game.TheLordMagnus

lolz how have u been Magnus?...but yeh when i first ripped on it, ppl told me to wait till E3 to see, and E3 came and went, and it still looks depressingly bad when the textures are concerned...id rather have amazin textures (as much as the wii hardware can permit) than have amazin lightning etc...this game is not artistically impressive, and thats what really reall counts...and i did say postive things abt the game, tho theres only a few good things to say...

compare this game to half life , halo, UT, Cod, RSV, STALKER, Far Cry, crysis etc....dont think abt the graphics comparison, just think abt the AI, the way things are set, the charactr models, the way those games feel polished, and then say that this game is good..and believe me you wont be able to say it.....for those of you that have never played a good FPS before, this game will look amazin, but for the rest of us that have, this game looks like garbage....also its online multiplayer will most probably not be comprable to Quake , UT, Halo (yes even this POS), cod, Cs, battlefield etc..this is just generic, by a no name dev..

I wasnt that interested until I saw the video for the control options and I heard Gonintendo podcast talking about the crazy amount of detail in this game... they gave the example of the scope on the gun has real time glare, so if you are looking down you will see real time clouds in the scope or if you are looking forward you will see what is behind you.ag1052

none of that matters if the textures of everythign in the game is BLAH..also the enemies look really unimpressive, and so is their AI..the whole presentation looks bad so far.....the all seeing eye looks like itll add a good dimension to gameplay....but graphically this game will not be everything youll want....

if it does impress graphically and gameplay wise, i will pick it up first day, and show it off.....but i highly doubt it, seeing videos, and HVS track record

[QUOTE="ag1052"]I wasnt that interested until I saw the video for the control options and I heard Gonintendo podcast talking about the crazy amount of detail in this game... they gave the example of the scope on the gun has real time glare, so if you are looking down you will see real time clouds in the scope or if you are looking forward you will see what is behind you.Ironre5

none of that matters if the textures of everythign in the game is BLAH..also the enemies look really unimpressive, and so is their AI..the whole presentation looks bad so far.....the all seeing eye looks like itll add a good dimension to gameplay....but graphically this game will not be everything youll want....

if it does impress graphically and gameplay wise, i will pick it up first day, and show it off.....but i highly doubt it, seeing videos, and HVS track record

lolwut? You're solely ripping on the graphics? It's redeeming feature. I don't even think the game looks good but graphically it's pretty special.

9 months to go /threadair_wolf_cubed

They could have two years, the art direction is plain dead. And there's no ubber next gen effect that can save The Conduit from that.

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

[QUOTE="ag1052"]I wasnt that interested until I saw the video for the control options and I heard Gonintendo podcast talking about the crazy amount of detail in this game... they gave the example of the scope on the gun has real time glare, so if you are looking down you will see real time clouds in the scope or if you are looking forward you will see what is behind you.chazasul

none of that matters if the textures of everythign in the game is BLAH..also the enemies look really unimpressive, and so is their AI..the whole presentation looks bad so far.....the all seeing eye looks like itll add a good dimension to gameplay....but graphically this game will not be everything youll want....

if it does impress graphically and gameplay wise, i will pick it up first day, and show it off.....but i highly doubt it, seeing videos, and HVS track record

lolwut? You're solely ripping on the graphics? It's redeeming feature. I don't even think the game looks good but graphically it's pretty special.

Yes you also have to put into thougt that they are trying to improve the wiis capacity of have good graphics! At least there is someone out there that thinks of it!! And they will keep improving it if the game hits and people wake up and say wow people like that stuff i guess we should keep it up!! And please stop posting on this useles thread from now... go to the other one lol!!

ok i can see that people keep posting here so hers the link to the real thread ... from now stop posting here cause all ignore is doing is whyning and argumenting cause he thinks the game sucks...

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26509501

resident evil 4 which came out 4 years ago, and then ported to wii, has WAY better textures and art as compared to the conduit..they may push their lighting and bump mapping etc, and all their techincal shabang on the wii, but at what cost? letting their art direction fall as a result of this lighitng and technical stuff, is just a HUGE FAIL...also dont say that they have 9 months to work on it, cos their art direction is never going to change, unless they start from scratch again....also can the quantum engine handle amazin textures and amazin high quality effects etc, and still maintain a consistent 30 fps....the tech demo they showed doesnt have the art..and im pretty sure if they tried that, there would be problems..but i could be wrong, so dont flame me for this....

comparing this to actual quality Fps' on other consoles, this game looks like garbage....highly overrated...

when compared to almost any shooter on PC, it's not that impressive. When compared to almost any shooter on Wii, it starts to get there.whoozwah

yeh but that doenst make it a good game.....just cos there arent many FPS on the wii, doesnt make this a good FPS..

if this was on the PC or 360/ps3..it would have been a megaton of crap....so it shouldnt be treated otherwise, just cos its on the wii....its like saying that Haze is a crappy FPS on the PS3, but an excellent one on the Wii..

resident evil 4 which came out 4 years ago, and then ported to wii, has WAY better textures and art as compared to the conduit..they may push their lighting and bump mapping etc, and all their techincal shabang on the wii, but at what cost? letting their art direction fall as a result of this lighitng and technical stuff, is just a HUGE FAIL...also dont say that they have 9 months to work on it, cos their art direction is never going to change, unless they start from scratch again....also can the quantum engine handle amazin textures and amazin high quality effects etc, and still maintain a consistent 30 fps....the tech demo they showed doesnt have the art..and im pretty sure if they tried that, there would be problems..but i could be wrong, so dont flame me for this....

comparing this to actual quality Fps' on other consoles, this game looks like garbage....highly overrated...

Ironre5

exsqueeze me? abaking powder? imo RE4 is one of the most blurry, washed out, low rez looking games I've played in a while. The textures could be mistaken for psx and the motion blur is so overused it makes me physically ill to look at. The control shceme is great but the game looks like crud.

funny thing just occured to me...the enviornemnts in the conduit actually remind of PC games of the 1998-2001 era...i just ran Deus Ex , and the buildings etc actually look similar texture wise....

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

resident evil 4 which came out 4 years ago, and then ported to wii, has WAY better textures and art as compared to the conduit..they may push their lighting and bump mapping etc, and all their techincal shabang on the wii, but at what cost? letting their art direction fall as a result of this lighitng and technical stuff, is just a HUGE FAIL...also dont say that they have 9 months to work on it, cos their art direction is never going to change, unless they start from scratch again....also can the quantum engine handle amazin textures and amazin high quality effects etc, and still maintain a consistent 30 fps....the tech demo they showed doesnt have the art..and im pretty sure if they tried that, there would be problems..but i could be wrong, so dont flame me for this....

comparing this to actual quality Fps' on other consoles, this game looks like garbage....highly overrated...

whoozwah

exsqueeze me? abaking powder? imo RE4 is one of the most blurry, washed out, low rez looking games I've played in a while. The textures could be mistaken for psx and the motion blur is so overused it makes me physically ill to look at. The control shceme is great but the game looks like crud.

im sorry but your wrong....the conduit maybe sharp, but the textures suck, and RE4 has WAY better art style....im talking abt the enviornements here...

also RE4 looks blurry on a HDTV, not an SDTV...thats cos the HDTV is more powerful and actually portrays all the blur that an SDTV cant..and considering this game was released abt 5 years ago, i would say that it was designed around an SDTV...also that has nothing to do with the technical aspects of a game, its abt art.....

The game has at least 9 months left in developement and keep in mind the aliens, hand and guns went from looking like crud to looking like this. Not even SMG or SBBB has this much charecter detail or surface effects. The alien and the gun reflect and refract the lighting colors around them. I'm confident the environments will look every bit as good as the aliens and guns once this game is finshed.

compare this game to half life , halo, UT, Cod, RSV, STALKER, Far Cry, crysis etc....dont think abt the graphics comparison, just think abt the AI, the way things are set, the charactr models, the way those games feel polished, and then say that this game is good..and believe me you wont be able to say it.....for those of you that have never played a good FPS before, this game will look amazin, but for the rest of us that have, this game looks like garbage....also its online multiplayer will most probably not be comprable to Quake , UT, Halo (yes even this POS), cod, Cs, battlefield etc..this is just generic, by a no name dev..Ironre5

Ok lets evaluate this, I'm not even going to bring up how this was just a demo and like all demo's the AI isnt complete and it is set on easy. You said ignore the graphics, ok, but duh the AI is also tied in with the power of the system. So that same horsepower that gives the visuals that you said to ignore, also is responsible for the AI. So the Wii obviously cant do the same thing that you find in other games. Also I have played several of those games you mentioned, and I am still impressed by this game. i cant say whether it is good or not, I havent played it, but it looks like it can provide just as much fun as those above mentioned titles, even without the horsepower of the 360/PS3. Also its funny you mentioned very generic games and praised them and then put this down for being generic. Also the same way big devs can make a bad game, a small dev can make a great game.

@umcommon...

hopefully your right...

also they need to spice up the presentation in the game...the movement of the enemies, their presentation, etc all need to be really worked on...

also im not dissing the reflections and the technical aspects of this game..im pissed at the textures and art style, which is very disappointing...

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]compare this game to half life , halo, UT, Cod, RSV, STALKER, Far Cry, crysis etc....dont think abt the graphics comparison, just think abt the AI, the way things are set, the charactr models, the way those games feel polished, and then say that this game is good..and believe me you wont be able to say it.....for those of you that have never played a good FPS before, this game will look amazin, but for the rest of us that have, this game looks like garbage....also its online multiplayer will most probably not be comprable to Quake , UT, Halo (yes even this POS), cod, Cs, battlefield etc..this is just generic, by a no name dev..Sepewrath

Ok lets evaluate this, I'm not even going to bring up how this was just a demo and like all demo's the AI isnt complete and it is set on easy. You said ignore the graphics, ok, but duh the AI is also tied in with the power of the system. So that same horsepower that gives the visuals that you said to ignore, also is responsible for the AI. So the Wii obviously cant do the same thing that you find in other games. Also I have played several of those games you mentioned, and I am still impressed by this game. i cant say whether it is good or not, I havent played it, but it looks like it can provide just as much fun as those above mentioned titles, even without the horsepower of the 360/PS3. Also its funny you mentioned very generic games and praised them and then put this down for being generic. Also the same way big devs can make a bad game, a small dev can make a great game.

ok fine, it was a demo and it was set on easy..i can agree with that...but the enemy movement, their presnetation, their textures and everything abt the game just looks so bland..i probably feel this way cos im accustomed to high quality FPS. and i thnk this really doesnt feel high quality

[QUOTE="whoozwah"][QUOTE="Ironre5"]

resident evil 4 which came out 4 years ago, and then ported to wii, has WAY better textures and art as compared to the conduit..they may push their lighting and bump mapping etc, and all their techincal shabang on the wii, but at what cost? letting their art direction fall as a result of this lighitng and technical stuff, is just a HUGE FAIL...also dont say that they have 9 months to work on it, cos their art direction is never going to change, unless they start from scratch again....also can the quantum engine handle amazin textures and amazin high quality effects etc, and still maintain a consistent 30 fps....the tech demo they showed doesnt have the art..and im pretty sure if they tried that, there would be problems..but i could be wrong, so dont flame me for this....

comparing this to actual quality Fps' on other consoles, this game looks like garbage....highly overrated...

Ironre5

exsqueeze me? abaking powder? imo RE4 is one of the most blurry, washed out, low rez looking games I've played in a while. The textures could be mistaken for psx and the motion blur is so overused it makes me physically ill to look at. The control shceme is great but the game looks like crud.

im sorry but your wrong....the conduit maybe sharp, but the textures suck, and RE4 has WAY better art style....im talking abt the enviornements here...

also RE4 looks blurry on a HDTV, not an SDTV...thats cos the HDTV is more powerful and actually portrays all the blur that an SDTV cant..and considering this game was released abt 5 years ago, i would say that it was designed around an SDTV...also that has nothing to do with the technical aspects of a game, its abt art.....

I'm not wrong for stating my opinion. My statement was never intended to be taken as fact. And as such I cannot be wrong for stating it. It's a relative thing really. You're certainly allowed to disagree with it but to say that it's wrong is a bit of a stretch no? ;)

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

@umcommon...

hopefully your right...

also they need to spice up the presentation in the game...the movement of the enemies, their presentation, etc all need to be really worked on...

also im not dissing the reflections and the technical aspects of this game..im pissed at the textures and art style, which is very disappointing...

gamecubepad

I could say the same thing about Halo 3(which I actually like). It's your opinion. If you don't like then don't buy it. Is it driving you insane that some people are anticipating this title? "No don't like! Everyone listen up, don't want this game!!! It's environment textures are average. AGGHHHH!!!!" What's the deal man?

well im trying to understand why youll will settle for this mediocracy....i really want to kno...

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

well im trying to understand why youll will settle for this mediocracy....i really want to kno...

gamecubepad

Wait until the game is released to judge if it's mediocre or not. IGN says it's pretty good. It's only your opinion it has mediocre graphics. I'll wait until it's released to make a final judgement, but from what I've seen it has great gfx for a Wii game. Right up there with the best looking Wii games.

sometimes i feel like Matt and Boz hype up games that really arent that great, or dont seem that great like deadly creatures, etc..i mean wtf deadly creatures? that looks so lame ..i stil love them best along with craig and daemon..their podcasts are hilarious..i just feel they hype up stuff and then give it low scores liek no more heroes..which actually is kinda a crappy game

It still looks great for a Wii game, and as said before there's still months left for improvement. You're calling it mediocre just because of its graphics?

sometimes i feel like Matt and Boz hype up games that really arent that great, or dont seem that great like deadly creatures, etc..i mean wtf deadly creatures? that looks so lame ..

Ironre5

Here's the difference between them and you:

They've played it, you haven't.

It still looks great for a Wii game, and as said before there's still months left for improvement. You're calling it mediocre just because of its graphics?

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

sometimes i feel like Matt and Boz hype up games that really arent that great, or dont seem that great like deadly creatures, etc..i mean wtf deadly creatures? that looks so lame ..

Erebyssial

Here's the difference between them and you:

They've played it, you haven't.

yes but when they are previewing games, they dont talk abt the bad stuff abt it, they only hype the good stuff like in no more heroes, then come review time they lay down a 7.9 (bozons fav, lol) and bring out the bad points...and by then theres plenty of hype around...

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"][QUOTE="Ironre5"]

well im trying to understand why youll will settle for this mediocracy....i really want to kno...

Ironre5

Wait until the game is released to judge if it's mediocre or not. IGN says it's pretty good. It's only your opinion it has mediocre graphics. I'll wait until it's released to make a final judgement, but from what I've seen it has great gfx for a Wii game. Right up there with the best looking Wii games.

sometimes i feel like Matt and Boz hype up games that really arent that great, or dont seem that great like deadly creatures, etc..i mean wtf deadly creatures? that looks so lame ..i stil love them best along with craig and daemon..their podcasts are hilarious..i just feel they hype up stuff and then give it low scores liek no more heroes..which actually is kinda a crappy game

IRONRE5 WILL YOU STOP COMPLAINING YOURE REALLY GETTING ON PEOPLES NERVES... YOU CANT SSTOP POSTING AND ARGUING AND SAYING THAT YOU HATE THE GAME! YOU HAVENT PLAYED IT YET SO COOL IT DOWN DUDE! WE ALL KNOW FROM NOW THAT YOU HATE THE GAME SO STOP IT! AND WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP ARGUYING WITH THIS GUY?? AND I HAVENT SELECTED ALL OF YOURE POSTS ... AND THAT MAKES IT ALOT ...!! IM TIRED OF THIS CRAP !! WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER DOING A THREAD LIKE THIS IF YOU CANT GET ALONG WITH ANYONE ... EVERYONE IS AGAINST YOU AND YOU KEEP ARGUING !! there ... sorry for that but i really needed to post this cause its really really an out of control thread ... lol

mastergabster

Give the Conduit a chance. It may actually pull off something to amaze a lot of people. I'm not saying it will, but no one could really know what High Voltage could possibly do on a Wii system.

There was once an interview at ign over the Conduit. Before the e3 conference, High Voltage stated that they wanted voice chat and said they'd talk to Nintendo about it. What I'm saying is: It may have been High Voltage company who brought the idea of voice chat over to Wii. Sure, fanboys were demanding this for a long time, but we're talking about a gaming company.

@mastergabster

im honored you quoted all my quotes in your message..i appreciate the attention, but i think the Caps were a little too much..im also amazed at how easily you were depressed by what i was saying to other people..if someone talking against the conduit depresses you/angers you so much..i think you should take a brake ...

thanks you

ok i can see that HVS is putting in a lot of effort...i think im mainly bummed that they said it would look like a 360/ps3 game...but i think they meant that it will have stuff like bump mapping, specular lighting etc, that is only seen in a Ps3/360 game...if so then its all cool....i really dont care abt the graphics, as long as the game is very good....

also i cant stop LOLING at mastergabster, or whatever his name is...

Well, everyone who actually played it during E3 said it looked damn sexy for a Wii game. They also said it controlled just as good as Medal of Honor Heroes 2, if not better. So, I'll be trusting their opinions before I listen to some kid in a Gamespot forum... No offense.