the conduit is still not impressive

Well, everyone who actually played it during E3 said it looked damn sexy for a Wii game. They also said it controlled just as good as Medal of Honor Heroes 2, if not better. So, I'll be trusting their opinions before I listen to some kid in a Gamespot forum... No offense.

ColonialMustard

calling me a kid was offensive...other than that im not offended.

alright mods lock this thread before it gets any worse...

9 months to go /threadair_wolf_cubed

hope it gets a lot better before then...

Ironre: I totally agree with you. I'm disgusted about the Conduit. If you want top see why, look at SER's "Games to be excited about" thread. I show where the Conduit stole all of its design concepts from. I invite anyone who thinks this game is any good to do the same. :)klarfis

thank you..its good to see that im not alone on this one...

[QUOTE="klarfis"]Ironre: I totally agree with you. I'm disgusted about the Conduit. If you want top see why, look at SER's "Games to be excited about" thread. I show where the Conduit stole all of its design concepts from. I invite anyone who thinks this game is any good to do the same. :)Ironre5

thank you..its good to see that im not alone on this one...

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26478407&page=7there may be some relevant screenshots earlier in the thread (on page 1 I think) so you can just alter the link URL to get there. Tell me what you think, if it's polite, everyone.klarfis

the link just brings me back to this page....

All FPS's are generic looking and have been since Perfect Dark and Golden Eye brought FPS into the mainstream of Console gaming. The only differance between the Conduit and every other FPS after Golden Eye, Perfect Dark is Control method which is reason enough to hype this game, Ok theres 2x FPS out already but nothing outstanding which is a dissapointment as MoH2 was port and Redsteel was let down.

If the controls are fluid then thats what matters and not how generic it looks.

u know... the last time they showed it was a pre alpha demo.

its obvious that the graphics arent looking even close to the final version...

remember the first TP pics and the final version. keep that in mind

Good for you. Many people disagree. IGN disagrees. I disagree. The environments look fine. There's still 9 months to go until release. Maybe you could wait until it's released to pass judgment. It looks a lot better than most Wii games, and even most Xbox games for that matter. Gameplay, controller precision, and quality online is what matters. Not the fact that you think a wall shoud have more bumps on it.

In the past, people would say the Wii wasn't capable of Normal Mapping. Now we have a game where almost everything is Normal Mapped and specular mapped. Very impressive. Those doubters will eat crow. The game might not be great, but it's almost certain to be happily accepted as a good game.

gamecubepad

u know... the last time they showed it was a pre alpha demo.

its obvious that the graphics arent looking even close to the final version...

remember the first TP pics and the final version. keep that in mind

BrunoBRS

Frankly, the first trailer looked almost as the final product, and that's only because it didn't show many effects-filled areas like Twilight. It's a bad comparison.

Dude how many threads have u made on this subject? I mean, I know we all have are own opinions but you dont have to continue to voice them over and over.......

Dude how many threads have u made on this subject? I mean, I know we all have are own opinions but you dont have to continue to voice them over and over.......

Bobmypants1

ive made 3 threads ever since its announcements....also ppl told me then to wait till E3 and that i would change my mind, and now E3 has come and past and the game still looks just as bad.....thats why i made this thread....

My basic point, though, is this: Conduit stole most of its environmental and character designs, wholesale, from the following sources: Metroid Prime, Echoes, and Corruption (there are barely-altered versions of the Luminoth, Space Pirate Commando, Morph Ball, Flaaghra, and Chozo Ruins as well as other environmental elements), Starship troopers (the large bugs are a total rip-off of this property, including even their coloring) Perfect Dark and Goldeneye (this one is closest to your point about a '98 era shooter...elements such as background TV monitors, railings, room layouts and color palettes, as well as the main pistol in the game and the game's plot, are ripped out of these two games...mainly Perfect Dark). Some remaining designs are basically altered versions of Star Wars characters (look at the second "human" character) and some are just strangely reminiscent of almost everything from 1993 (I'm talking about the main character, especially his pathetic sunglasses.) Anyway, the game is not just "generic"--it's actually regurgitating designs from previous games and movies, including Aliens. Oh, and even the press release layout rips off the Metroid Prime typographical design. It's really sad.klarfis

wow thanks for telling me, i didnt know that...damn..i dont know what everyone else sees in this game...it looks so lame, in the gameplay department too..its really a shame too...it just looks BORING to play...

Sepewrath, I feel I need to point out...I've never defended Halo, and if you look at the character designs in the screenshots and on the press release, you'll have to acknowledge that they're even worse than those in Halo. Where Halo is disgustingly generic, the Conduit is actually ripping off other games' designs. That's even worse, I think.klarfis

I think the argument here is what's generic and what's ripping off (the conduit even stole the color scheme of the bug aliens from starship troopers! *gasp*). But doesn't that mean that Starship Troopers was stealing color schemes from nature?!?! *double gasp*! If something is generic, it is doing things done in the past several times. All you're really doing is using words with more negative connotations to describe Conduit and being a little nicer to Halo. I'm not saying either are original, they're not, but can you please stop mindlessly trashing a game that's far from release?

lol... never saw this thread yet.

The screen that was shown on the first or second page already proves that game is and will be the best looking 3rd party game on the Wii so far. (unless.....yes, unless one the expected titles releases prior).

Nothing on the Wii that has been released so far can even compare to the Conduit visually. SMG, MP3, SSBB, MoH:H2, TP, ect, ect, ect. Everything thus far imo looks like late life GC games. I'm not saying the GC could have produced games such as the above mentioned, but I don't think any of the released games so far have been spectacular while comparing it to the Conduit.

Yes, it might be a generic shooter...but what else do we have to compare to it???

There are some good looking games coming out, so I hope they all blow us away, it's not just the Conduit.

Its funny hearing that coming from someone who praises Halo where all you do is go through wave after wave of aliens, exchanging gun fire with both human and alien technology. Hmm sounds familiar, oh right, its the same thing that happens in this game, and most other sci fi shooters. Interesting.Sepewrath

atleast halo has good enviornemnts, good aliens to fight against, looks very presentable, actually looks fun to play, has better looking weapons (that homing grenade weapon looks awful)...overall presentation in halo is miles beyond what conduit will ever be...

lol... never saw this thread yet.

The screen that was shown on the first or second page already proves that game is and will be the best looking 3rd party game on the Wii so far. (unless.....yes, unless one the expected titles releases prior).

Nothing on the Wii that has been released so far can even compare to the Conduit visually. SMG, MP3, SSBB, MoH:H2, TP, ect, ect, ect. Everything thus far imo looks like late life GC games. I'm not saying the GC could have produced games such as the above mentioned, but I don't think any of the released games so far have been spectacular while comparing it to the Conduit.

Yes, it might be a generic shooter...but what else do we have to compare to it???

There are some good looking games coming out, so I hope they all blow us away, it's not just the Conduit.

danger_ranger95

wait so youre saying MP3 and SMG look like late GC games?? wth are you talking abt?

[QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

lol... never saw this thread yet.

The screen that was shown on the first or second page already proves that game is and will be the best looking 3rd party game on the Wii so far. (unless.....yes, unless one the expected titles releases prior).

Nothing on the Wii that has been released so far can even compare to the Conduit visually. SMG, MP3, SSBB, MoH:H2, TP, ect, ect, ect. Everything thus far imo looks like late life GC games. I'm not saying the GC could have produced games such as the above mentioned, but I don't think any of the released games so far have been spectacular while comparing it to the Conduit.

Yes, it might be a generic shooter...but what else do we have to compare to it???

There are some good looking games coming out, so I hope they all blow us away, it's not just the Conduit.

Ironre5

wait so youre saying MP3 and SMG look like late GC games?? wth are you talking abt?

I always find it funny how people need to have the last word, but don't have an argument, so they just pick a random sentence that really is besides the point and try to use that as ammo.

[QUOTE="Ironre5"][QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

lol... never saw this thread yet.

The screen that was shown on the first or second page already proves that game is and will be the best looking 3rd party game on the Wii so far. (unless.....yes, unless one the expected titles releases prior).

Nothing on the Wii that has been released so far can even compare to the Conduit visually. SMG, MP3, SSBB, MoH:H2, TP, ect, ect, ect. Everything thus far imo looks like late life GC games. I'm not saying the GC could have produced games such as the above mentioned, but I don't think any of the released games so far have been spectacular while comparing it to the Conduit.

Yes, it might be a generic shooter...but what else do we have to compare to it???

There are some good looking games coming out, so I hope they all blow us away, it's not just the Conduit.

Picklechugger

wait so youre saying MP3 and SMG look like late GC games?? wth are you talking abt?

I always find it funny how people need to have the last word, but don't have an argument, so they just pick a random sentence that really is besides the point and try to use that as ammo.

Yes, that's my opinion. If you recall...Mario 128 was a demo that showed that GC technology could handle tons of moving objects onscreen at once.

SMG was an evolution of this demo. Again, I never once said GC could handle a complete game like SMG (but who knows, it might have been able to). All I'm implying is that SMG and MP3 didn't look to be what people praised them for. They did indeed look improoved over the previous versions slightly, but it wasn't like there is a huuuuugggeeee gap between the two series' last installments. Especially MP3!!! The only differences I noticed between MP2/MP3 were the smoke effects after a missle was launched.

The Conduit's enviroments indeed some work, but the characters look awesome compared to anything so far imo. I believe the enviroments will be updated.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

u know... the last time they showed it was a pre alpha demo.

its obvious that the graphics arent looking even close to the final version...

remember the first TP pics and the final version. keep that in mind

Wintry_Flutist

Frankly, the first trailer looked almost as the final product, and that's only because it didn't show many effects-filled areas like Twilight. It's a bad comparison.

and i saw recently a pic of the first zelda trailer...some stuff like links... gaunlet (or whatever that leather thing on his arm is) is completely square, with weird, poor, flat details. that and some other stuff.

I can't wait to make fun of people when this game flops. lol Mario2007

o hells yeh...me too....

I hate to say it....but I think it's going to flop as well. I'm rooting for HV, but the only way this game will survive is if it's advertised. I hope to god they get a good pub!!!

I hate to say it....but I think it's going to flop as well. I'm rooting for HV, but the only way this game will survive is if it's advertised. I hope to god they get a good pub!!!

danger_ranger95

I hate to say it....but I think it's going to flop as well. I'm rooting for HV, but the only way this game will survive is if it's advertised. I hope to god they get a good pub!!!

danger_ranger95

The game and the presentation are 2 different things and can be deceiving.