This disappoints me greatly...

http://kotaku.com/5042255/nintendo-to-you-your-core-games-are-coming-just-not-soon

Death by a million cuts...

I just can't get over this nintendo... we used to be so close...

There are plenty of games we already have and that are coming, so I'm not complaning.

Can anyone say Game Cube?zaku101

Game Cube

Your welcome.

this year isn't about Nintendo. i like to look at the third party's. Nintendo isn't the only company that makes games.

this year isn't about Nintendo. i like to look at the third party's. Nintendo isn't the only company that makes games.

santanablu3

true dat. some of you people need to stop. how can you be disappointed they said "there core games are in development" but they just need time. as santanablu3 said its all about third party games and the ones im checking out are looking great so far.

so just be patient i see this as a time to get those gamecube games (i can't find tales of symphonia any where :cry: ) and DS game i still haven't played 8)

Patience.

It's not going to hurt anyone.

How about trying more casual games...

People at Kotaku are getting crazy... They're all "so where the games you started working 3 years ago?". Can't they realize the teams working released Galaxy, MP3, Brawl, etc one year ago or less?Wintry_Flutist

Yeah, the teams that were making those games were in overhaul but by them pushing out all those games within the 1st year the hardcore would have bought them, played them, beat them and had not much new Wii games to play. Most of the hardcore love those games so much that they play them almost non-stop until they beat the game. It's pretty sad. The people who commented on the topic of Kotaku seem to have lost all hope for Nintendo. I still have faith in Nintendo. Zelda, Mario and Samus are enough for me.

How do we even know that this news was official from Nintendo? They have NO new ideas? I find that extremely hard to believe. I feel that that topic os false or purposely edited to morph the views of the readers. Nintendo MUST go HD nex-gen because they can't keep doing this. Some of the games can still be child-oriented while being in HD. I hope they are afraid that if they go HD then they'll lose the casual and child market. That topic just smells like a load of BS to me. What about Kirby, Sadness, Donkey Kong, Disaster and maybe even Yoshi or Luigi? Nintendo should've reeled in the 3rd parties first so they could get on board sooner. If Nintendo established its image as casual but deadly hardcore then that could've gotten great support sooner. I guess they know what to do in the future then.

3rd parties

Patience.

It's not going to hurt anyone.

How about trying more casual games...

Kuy4

The thing is most gamers lack patience, they want things NOW!!!! I have a bunch to do and still have at least 5 great games to beat. I'm on Metroid 1 and 2 for GC and then will buy Metroid 3. Then I want to beat Super Paper Mario (fun as hizzell), Resident Evil:UC, Super Mario Galaxy in secret mode, Twilight Princess (that game is an 11/10 to me!), The Thousand Year Door and beating Resident Evil 4 again. It should take me a while to get this done since I don't play for that long really. By then more 3rd party games will be out and hopefully we'll hear news of more Wii projects from Nintendo and more 3rd parties. I'll also be in university which will make the time go buy even faster. I really hope those impatient gamers have lives or at least jobs to keep them busy cuz I really don't understand whey they feel like 2 years is forever.

http://kotaku.com/5042255/nintendo-to-you-your-core-games-are-coming-just-not-soon

Death by a million cuts...

I just can't get over this nintendo... we used to be so close...

mfp16

http://kotaku.com/5042255/nintendo-to-you-your-core-games-are-coming-just-not-soon

Death by a million cuts...

I just can't get over this nintendo... we used to be so close...

mfp16

What are you dissapointed about? That Nintendo takes 2-3 to develop great polished games? How is this different than how they were in the past?

Patience.

It's not going to hurt anyone.

How about trying more casual games...

Kuy4

How about gouging your eyes out with a fork? Well, I suppose one could, but it isn't all that appealing.

Somehow, other major developers manage to release a consistent trickle of games. I think that may be the result of putting their pile of money towards R&D and hiring more starving programmers and designers rather than sitting atop of it and singing "I'm the king of the castle".

http://kotaku.com/5042255/nintendo-to-you-your-core-games-are-coming-just-not-soon

Death by a million cuts...

I just can't get over this nintendo... we used to be so close...

mfp16

[QUOTE="mfp16"]

http://kotaku.com/5042255/nintendo-to-you-your-core-games-are-coming-just-not-soon

Death by a million cuts...

I just can't get over this nintendo... we used to be so close...

Rocky32189

What are you dissapointed about? That Nintendo takes 2-3 to develop great polished games? How is this different than how they were in the past?

People at Kotaku are getting crazy... They're all "so where are the games you started working 3 years ago?". Can't they realize the teams working released Galaxy, MP3, Brawl, etc one year ago or less?Wintry_Flutist

Twilight Princess was released November 19, 2006. So I suppose we'll see the next Zelda in 2 months?

In any case, what about the ones they started working on at or before the Wii's release, which haven't yet had a game on Wii? Granted, there aren't that many left, which only raises another question: why no new IP?

There are still a lot of exclusive content coming such as:

• Madworld
• Animal Crossing
• The Conduit
• House of the dead
• Deadly Creatures
• Mushroom Men
• K.O.R.E
• Skate it
• De blob
• Curse Mointain
• Fatal Frame
• overlord

amongst others...

I'm pretty certain Nintendo aren't holding all their core games back for another 2-3 years, what they meant is that those games take 2-3 years to develop overall and I'm certain those games have been in development for a while already. They say they aren't coming early 2009 but they may be on the way for mid 09 to end of 09.

has anyone ever compared the number of 1st parties N produces compared to Sony and MS? Not trying to make a point here, I'm really just curious.

Because N pumped out A LOT in the last 2 years. I wonder how it compares.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]People at Kotaku are getting crazy... They're all "so where are the games you started working 3 years ago?". Can't they realize the teams working released Galaxy, MP3, Brawl, etc one year ago or less?clicketyclick

Twilight Princess was released November 19, 2006. So I suppose we'll see the next Zelda in 2 months?

In any case, what about the ones they started working on at or before the Wii's release, which haven't yet had a game on Wii? Granted, there aren't that many left, which only raises another question: why no new IP?

No, 2009 sounds more likely. But if you research a bit my posting history, you'll know I always believed - and I still believe - we should have decent info on Zelda by now.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

No, 2009 sounds more likely. But if you research a bit my posting history, you'll know I always believed - and I still believe - we should have decent info on Zelda by now.

clicketyclick

I remember your E3 hype thread, which is why I'm picking on you about Zelda. :D If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

There are still a lot of exclusive content [cc: exclusive ≠ good] coming such as:

• Madworld [cc: Q1 2009]
• Animal Crossing [cc: another GC port. Rejoice!]
• The Conduit [cc: Q1 2009. And it looks very derivative.]
• House of the dead [cc: 2009. Doesn't look that good.]
• Deadly Creatures [cc: not even the hype machine that is IGN is convinced.]
• Mushroom Men
• K.O.R.E [cc: and when's this coming out?]
• Skate it
• De blob
• Curse Mointain [cc: when in 2009?]
• Fatal Frame [cc: no NA release date set. Thanks for taking time to localise the few core games we have, Ninty.]
• overlord [cc: when in 2009?]

amongst others...

I'm pretty certain Nintendo aren't holding all their core games back for another 2-3 years, what they meant is that those games take 2-3 years to develop overall and I'm certain those games have been in development for a while already. They say they aren't coming early 2009 but they may be on the way for mid 09 to end of 09.com2006 with my notes added in square brackets

They can't start developing the next installation in a franchise until they finish the one they're working on, and most only got released just recently. So it will be a while before we see new Ninty core titles.

Of course, it is possible to work on a current release and the next release simultaneously, and other developers have done that when they have popular franchises on their hands. But to do that, you actually have to add more people to the development team in order to split them into two groups, rather than redirecting employees and resources towards new, casual projects.

We haven't even seen a pikmin, kid icuras, star fox, or f-zero on Wii yet what is happening with these games I'm not just talking about the mario's and zelda's. Nintendo do have a lot of other core games.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

No, 2009 sounds more likely. But if you research a bit my posting history, you'll know I always believed - and I still believe - we should have decent info on Zelda by now.

clicketyclick

I remember your E3 hype thread, which is why I'm picking on you about Zelda. :D If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

You'll have to try harder to see me uneasy with something I said myself. Specially if you distort what I say into "in the next couple of months".

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

No, 2009 sounds more likely. But if you research a bit my posting history, you'll know I always believed - and I still believe - we should have decent info on Zelda by now.

com2006

I remember your E3 hype thread, which is why I'm picking on you about Zelda. :D If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

There are still a lot of exclusive content [cc: exclusive ≠ good] coming such as:

• Madworld [cc: Q1 2009]
• Animal Crossing [cc: another GC port. Rejoice!]
• The Conduit [cc: Q1 2009. And it looks very derivative.]
• House of the dead [cc: 2009. Doesn't look that good.]
• Deadly Creatures [cc: not even the hype machine that is IGN is convinced.]
• Mushroom Men
• K.O.R.E [cc: and when's this coming out?]
• Skate it
• De blob
• Curse Mointain [cc: when in 2009?]
• Fatal Frame [cc: no NA release date set. Thanks for taking time to localise the few core games we have, Ninty.]
• overlord [cc: when in 2009?]

amongst others...

I'm pretty certain Nintendo aren't holding all their core games back for another 2-3 years, what they meant is that those games take 2-3 years to develop overall and I'm certain those games have been in development for a while already. They say they aren't coming early 2009 but they may be on the way for mid 09 to end of 09.com2006 with my notes added in square brackets

They can't start developing the next installation in a franchise until they finish the one they're working on, and most only got released just recently. So it will be a while before we see new Ninty core titles.

Of course, it is possible to work on a current release and the next release simultaneously, and other developers have done that when they have popular franchises on their hands. But to do that, you actually have to add more people to the development team in order to split them into two groups, rather than redirecting employees and resources towards new, casual projects.

We haven't even seen a pikmin, kid icuras, star fox, or f-zero on Wii yet what is happening with these games I'm not just talking about the mario's and zelda's. Nintendo do have a lot of other core games.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

You'll have to try harder to see me uneasy with something I said myself. Specially if you distort what I say into "in the next couple of months".

clicketyclick

You've lost me. How am I distorting what you said and what quote is that?

We haven't even seen a pikmin, kid icuras, star fox, or f-zero on Wii yet what is happening with these games I'm not just talking about the mario's and zelda's. Nintendo do have a lot of other core games.

com2006

Yes, those were the ones I was referring to when I said, "what about the ones they started working on at or before the Wii's release, which haven't yet had a game on Wii?" Well, where are they? If it takes 2-3 years to develop, and development starts even before the Wii is released, then, where are they? Dare I suggest that Nintendo is focusing its efforts elsewhere, such as, say, releasing a bunch of new casual titles every year?

[QUOTE="com2006"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

No, 2009 sounds more likely. But if you research a bit my posting history, you'll know I always believed - and I still believe - we should have decent info on Zelda by now.

santanablu3

I remember your E3 hype thread, which is why I'm picking on you about Zelda. :D If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

There are still a lot of exclusive content [cc: exclusive ≠ good] coming such as:

• Madworld [cc: Q1 2009]
• Animal Crossing [cc: another GC port. Rejoice!]
• The Conduit [cc: Q1 2009. And it looks very derivative.]
• House of the dead [cc: 2009. Doesn't look that good.]
• Deadly Creatures [cc: not even the hype machine that is IGN is convinced.]
• Mushroom Men
• K.O.R.E [cc: and when's this coming out?]
• Skate it
• De blob
• Curse Mointain [cc: when in 2009?]
• Fatal Frame [cc: no NA release date set. Thanks for taking time to localise the few core games we have, Ninty.]
• overlord [cc: when in 2009?]

amongst others...

I'm pretty certain Nintendo aren't holding all their core games back for another 2-3 years, what they meant is that those games take 2-3 years to develop overall and I'm certain those games have been in development for a while already. They say they aren't coming early 2009 but they may be on the way for mid 09 to end of 09.com2006 with my notes added in square brackets

They can't start developing the next installation in a franchise until they finish the one they're working on, and most only got released just recently. So it will be a while before we see new Ninty core titles.

Of course, it is possible to work on a current release and the next release simultaneously, and other developers have done that when they have popular franchises on their hands. But to do that, you actually have to add more people to the development team in order to split them into two groups, rather than redirecting employees and resources towards new, casual projects.

We haven't even seen a pikmin, kid icuras, star fox, or f-zero on Wii yet what is happening with these games I'm not just talking about the mario's and zelda's. Nintendo do have a lot of other core games.

Check my list out, Nintendo are only involved with two of those games, I'm looking forward to a few third party titles some that aren't even on my list like star wars, tiger woods and PES.

If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

clicketyclick

Nintendo has changed the way they announce games. They do not show them off until they are very close to release and ready to be played.

[QUOTE="com2006"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

No, 2009 sounds more likely. But if you research a bit my posting history, you'll know I always believed - and I still believe - we should have decent info on Zelda by now.

santanablu3

I remember your E3 hype thread, which is why I'm picking on you about Zelda. :D If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

There are still a lot of exclusive content [cc: exclusive ≠ good] coming such as:

• Madworld [cc: Q1 2009]
• Animal Crossing [cc: another GC port. Rejoice!]
• The Conduit [cc: Q1 2009. And it looks very derivative.]
• House of the dead [cc: 2009. Doesn't look that good.]
• Deadly Creatures [cc: not even the hype machine that is IGN is convinced.]
• Mushroom Men
• K.O.R.E [cc: and when's this coming out?]
• Skate it
• De blob
• Curse Mointain [cc: when in 2009?]
• Fatal Frame [cc: no NA release date set. Thanks for taking time to localise the few core games we have, Ninty.]
• overlord [cc: when in 2009?]

amongst others...

I'm pretty certain Nintendo aren't holding all their core games back for another 2-3 years, what they meant is that those games take 2-3 years to develop overall and I'm certain those games have been in development for a while already. They say they aren't coming early 2009 but they may be on the way for mid 09 to end of 09.com2006 with my notes added in square brackets

They can't start developing the next installation in a franchise until they finish the one they're working on, and most only got released just recently. So it will be a while before we see new Ninty core titles.

Of course, it is possible to work on a current release and the next release simultaneously, and other developers have done that when they have popular franchises on their hands. But to do that, you actually have to add more people to the development team in order to split them into two groups, rather than redirecting employees and resources towards new, casual projects.

We haven't even seen a pikmin, kid icuras, star fox, or f-zero on Wii yet what is happening with these games I'm not just talking about the mario's and zelda's. Nintendo do have a lot of other core games.

[QUOTE="mfp16"]

http://kotaku.com/5042255/nintendo-to-you-your-core-games-are-coming-just-not-soon

Death by a million cuts...

I just can't get over this nintendo... we used to be so close...

Rocky32189

What are you dissapointed about? That Nintendo takes 2-3 to develop great polished games? How is this different than how they were in the past?

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

You'll have to try harder to see me uneasy with something I said myself. Specially if you distort what I say into "in the next couple of months".

clicketyclick

You've lost me. How am I distorting what you said and what quote is that?

Twilight Princess was released November 19, 2006. So I suppose we'll see the next Zelda in 2 months?clicketyclick

I remember your E3 hype threadclicketyclick

Not well enough, apparently. There, I say I expect Zelda in 2009/2010, and listed reasons beyond release dates to see an announcement at E3.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

Rocky32189

Nintendo has changed the way they announce games. They do not show them off until they are very close to release and ready to be played.

The next LoZ was first talked about by Nintendo at E3 2007. It was already announced.

And by the way, where is your source that Nintendo has made an official policy of changing the way they announce games? I keep seeing people write that they've changed their policies in order to avoid hyping up fans (because that's such a terrible thing) but I wonder where this comes from.

In any case, that comment was directed towards Wintry specifically because of the things he's said before about LoZ.

Not well enough, apparently. There, I say I expect Zelda in 2009/2010, and listed reasons beyond release dates to see anannouncementat E3.

Oh, lol. You're confusing two things. Nintendo said 2-3 years of dev, and Kotaku asked where are the games that were in development for 2-3 years. Two years from the date of release of TP is 2 months from now. It had nothing to do with what you have said in the past.

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

If we don't have info now, it is unlikely we'll see a Zelda game in the next year, or maybe two.

clicketyclick

Nintendo has changed the way they announce games. They do not show them off until they are very close to release and ready to be played.

The next LoZ was first talked about by Nintendo at E3 2007. It was already announced.

And by the way, where is your source that Nintendo has made an official policy of changing the way they announce games? I keep seeing people write that they've changed their policies in order to avoid hyping up fans (because that's such a terrible thing) but I wonder where this comes from.

For proof just look at E3 2008. They only showed their 2008 lineup, all of which were playable. The only reason Wii Sports Resort was shown was the showcase motion plus to third parties. Also, look at Wario Land and Captain Rainbow. Both were only announced a few months before release. I also remember an interview where Reggie said something along the lines of, "We only want to show games when they are ready to be played".

With sales numbers as they are, Nintendo has no reason to hype games to sell consoles.

Oh, lol. You're confusing two things. Nintendo said 2-3 years of dev, and Kotaku asked where are the games that were in development for 2-3 years. Two years from the date of release of TP is 2 months from now. It had nothing to do with what you have said in the past.

clicketyclick

And three years is 2009! :o

Unless you expect Nintendo to pull out a Majora's Mask and rehash TP engine for a next gen Zelda, that is. Anyway, Mario Galaxy needed 4 years, and I damn hope Nintendo makes the next Zelda whith as much passion as Galaxy. Mario is the one that can afford to havethe current engine rehashed now.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Rocky32189"]

Nintendo has changed the way they announce games. They do not show them off until they are very close to release and ready to be played.

Rocky32189

For proof just look at E3 2008. They only showed their 2008 lineup, all of which were playable. The only reason Wii Sports Resort was shown was the showcase motion plus to third parties. Also, look at Wario Land and Captain Rainbow. Both were only announced a few months before release. I also remember an interview where Reggie said something along the lines of, "We only want to show games when they are ready to be played".

I'm sorry, but you cannot base an assertion that Nintendo has changed its policy on observation of what happened at E3, and explain away anything that doesn't fit your assertion. It by no means indicates a change in policy; it by no means determines what Nintendo will do and announce in the future, just because of what they chose to present at E3.

Here's my explanation: As Nintendo has repeatedly said, E3 is what they now consider their "casual show". Hence, they only cared to show 2009's casual titles.

Can you disprove that? Well, then your assertion that there's been a change in policy is false if you cannot disprove other hypotheses. Just because Nintendo shows you 12 white sheep doesn't mean that they have a policy in place to only show you white sheep from henceforth.

As for Reggie... well, he says a lot of things.

With sales numbers as they are, Nintendo has no reason to hype games to sell consoles.

Rocky32189

ya, but people are claiming Ninty has changed their policy specifically to protect their delicate little fans from overhyping.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

Oh, lol. You're confusing two things. Nintendo said 2-3 years of dev, and Kotaku asked where are the games that were in development for 2-3 years. Two years from the date of release of TP is 2 months from now. It had nothing to do with what you have said in the past.

Wintry_Flutist

And three years is 2009! :o

And this is why I was picking on you, because at this point, I'd like to bring in statements you've made in the past. :D

More specifically: "If Nintendo plans to release Zelda Wii in 2009 or 2010, then it has to be announced now. Zelda games are known for their long hype and slow revelations, pic after pic, trailer after trailer ... Nintendo won't announce Zelda Wii soon before launch, they will reveal it one or two years before release, and that can only be now. A 2009 announcement would mean a 2011 release. Five whole years after Twilight Princess. That just makes no sense."

Hey, why fight me? I agree with you! ;)

And this is why I was picking on you, because at this point, I'd like to bring in statements you've made in the past. :D

More specifically: "If Nintendo plans to release Zelda Wii in 2009 or 2010, then it has to be announced now. Zelda games are known for their long hype and slow revelations, pic after pic, trailer after trailer ... Nintendo won't announce Zelda Wii soon before launch, they will reveal it one or two years before release, and that can only be now. A 2009 announcement would mean a 2011 release. Five whole years after Twilight Princess. That just makes no sense."

Hey, why fight me? I agree with you! ;)

clicketyclick

Which is why I am surprised Zelda hasn't been unfolded, but I can understand that if Zelda lives up to the unprecedent ammount of time spent in it.

But if you want to turn that into "Zelda should be released this year", good luck.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

And this is why I was picking on you, because at this point, I'd like to bring in statements you've made in the past. :D

More specifically: "If Nintendo plans to release Zelda Wii in 2009 or 2010, then it has to be announced now. Zelda games are known for their long hype and slow revelations, pic after pic, trailer after trailer ... Nintendo won't announce Zelda Wii soon before launch, they will reveal it one or two years before release, and that can only be now. A 2009 announcement would mean a 2011 release. Five whole years after Twilight Princess. That just makes no sense."

Hey, why fight me? I agree with you! ;)

Wintry_Flutist

Which is why I am surprised Zelda hasn't been unfolded, but I can understand that if Zelda lives up to the unprecedent ammount of time spent in it.

But if you want to turn that into "Zelda should be released this year", good luck.

You mistake my meaning. I am not trying to get you to conclude that Zelda should be released this year - I'm pointing out that it won't be. I'm trying to get you to conclude that Zelda won't be released until 2011 at the earliest, in accordance with what you said earlier.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

And this is why I was picking on you, because at this point, I'd like to bring in statements you've made in the past. :D

More specifically: "If Nintendo plans to release Zelda Wii in 2009 or 2010, then it has to be announced now. Zelda games are known for their long hype and slow revelations, pic after pic, trailer after trailer ... Nintendo won't announce Zelda Wii soon before launch, they will reveal it one or two years before release, and that can only be now. A 2009 announcement would mean a 2011 release. Five whole years after Twilight Princess. That just makes no sense."

Hey, why fight me? I agree with you! ;)

clicketyclick

Which is why I am surprised Zelda hasn't been unfolded, but I can understand that if Zelda lives up to the unprecedent ammount of time spent in it.

But if you want to turn that into "Zelda should be released this year", good luck.

You mistake my meaning. I am not trying to get you to conclude that Zelda should be released this year - I'm pointing out that it won't be. I'm trying to get you to conclude that Zelda won't be released until 2011 at the earliest, in accordance with what you said earlier.

If Zelda Wii is getting SMG treatment, so be it. But 2011? Earliest? :lol: Not even Ocarina of Time, the most stunningly designed game ever, took that long. Right now it's a matter of PR, not development - Zelda Wii isn't in so early development it will need three years to conclude it, far from it.

If Zelda Wii is getting SMG treatment, so be it. But 2011? Earliest? :lol: Not even Ocarina of Time, the most stunningly designed game ever, took that long.

Wintry_Flutist

Do I need to quote you again? "A 2009 announcement would mean a 2011 release." They will announce it 2009 at the earliest, therefore, the release, according to you, will be 2011 at the earliest. Unless you're saying you're wrong.

I'm sorry, but you cannot base an assertion that Nintendo has changed its policy on observation of what happened at E3, and explain away anything that doesn't fit your assertion. It by no means indicates a change in policy; it by no means determines what Nintendo will do and announce in the future, just because of what they chose to present at E3.

Here's my explanation: As Nintendo has repeatedly said, E3 is what they now consider their "casual show". Hence, they only cared to show 2009's casual titles.

Can you disprove that? Well, then your assertion that there's been a change in policy is false if you cannot disprove other hypotheses. Just because Nintendo shows you 12 white sheep doesn't mean that they have a policy in place to only show you white sheep from henceforth.clicketyclick

So, what do you believe is going on with Nintendo then? Since nothing has been shown, do you believe that Nintendo will not release any hardcore first party titles in 2009?

Why did they wait so long to announce Wario and Captain Rainbow? The announcement of those two titles had nothing to do with their casual show (E3). They waited until near final playable demos were available.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

If Zelda Wii is getting SMG treatment, so be it. But 2011? Earliest? :lol: Not even Ocarina of Time, the most stunningly designed game ever, took that long.

clicketyclick

Do I need to quote you again? "A 2009 announcement would mean a 2011 release." They will announce it 2009 at the earliest, therefore, the release, according to you, will be 2011 at the earliest. Unless you're saying you're wrong.

I was, indeed, very wrong - the idea of announcing a blockbuster game close to release is just awkward.

So, what do you believe is going on with Nintendo then? Since nothing has been shown, do you believe that Nintendo will not release any hardcore first party titles in 2009?

Why did they wait so long to announce Wario and Captain Rainbow? The announcement of those two titles had nothing to do with their casual show (E3). They waited until near final playable demos were available.

Rocky32189

Nintendo was providing information on a weekly basis all before E3... to Japan. There is no NA date set. Yet another great example of Nintendo working hard to localise games like Fatal Frame IV quickly. :roll:

Nintendo is more focused on the casual market in general. This could be the reason why Ninty devotes more time, attention, and advertising money to its casual titles. It's not that they've shifted policies; it's just that they've shifted focus. Hype up the casual titles, because that's what's important. Core market? ...ehhhh.... not so much.

Even if you don't accept this explanation doesn't mean you can insist that Ninty has changed its policies. You have no proof of that claim. You're asserting false information and starting rumours.

I was, indeed, very wrong - the idea of announcing a blockbuster game close to release is just awkward.

Wintry_Flutist

So then are you now thinking that they will do that: announce a game right before release?