TIRED of the ATTITUDE Gamespot seems to have towards the Wii ? ........ BE HEARD

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#51 elbert_b_23
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i am shocked they haven't changed the sites name to 360/pc fansite tjey always been bad with wii but lately messing up with release dates, a few weeks ago saying red steel 2 will be out in july, earlier this week saying cursed mountain will be out this week the editors need to get there act right and hire 1 nintendo fanboy to do fair wii reviews or at least review wii and wii ware games
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#52 XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
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I only use Gamespot for the forums, and go to IGN for any gaming news/reviews etc. Gamespot's not very good with reviews, so why complain, it's never going to change. Just go somewhere else for that stuff. Simple. :|
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#54 Arkk_Angel
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I only use Gamespot for the forums, and go to IGN for any gaming news/reviews etc. Gamespot's not very good with reviews, so why complain, it's never going to change. Just go somewhere else for that stuff. Simple. :|XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
I agree. Although, it would be nice to have a site with healthy forums and a positive gaming attitude towards all systems.
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#55 ActicEdge
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The wii is second thought here. that much is apparent. Its time to just forget about Gamespot when it comes to wii reviews, its not lke there aren't other sites lol.

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#56 Jak-25
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Yeah, the Wii does not seem to be getting many good reviews on this site and many other sites. :( The Wii is a good console, and it has many good games for it, so it should be getting better reviews, in my opinion.

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#57 movin_target
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They didn't even review Rock Band 2 yet for the Wii, and its been about 6 months since that came out. :s

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#58 maverick_41
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Game Spot is very biased. It is terrible. I try to not care about the poor scores too much, but I just feel like the Wii needs an AAA game ya know.. Just for an example, look at the Grand Slam Tennis review. How many times have you read in a review's "The Bad" box where it says, "waggle feels tacked on?" I know I have seen it quite a bit. Now that the WiiMotion+ has come out, they are saying that it is way too difficult, and giva a great game a 6, come on. It is just a load of**** in my opinion. I can just see when a game like Red Steel 2 comes out that they will be saying that it's too accurate and give it a 7, when accuracy is what they've wanted all along.

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#59 Burning-Sludge
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i am shocked they haven't changed the sites name to 360/pc fansite elbert_b_23

Wouldn't M$GS be more catchy?

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#60 redfordo
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Remember when they gave Fire Emblem a 6.0 and slammed it for not having "Mii support'?

Are you kidding?

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#61 AjaxNeron
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Most people don't follow GameSpot reviews for Wii games anyways.

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#62 jdmpastor
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Gamespot's discontent with the Wii has been obvious for some time. It's been said by MANY...the only reason we come here anymore is because the forums are the best.

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#63 redfordo
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Most people don't follow GameSpot reviews for Wii games anyways.

AjaxNeron

Very true, but that certainly doesn't mean we should have to put up with it.

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#64 Hungry_Homer111
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Let's see. In 2009, we have had:

A scores:

Let's Tap
Help Wanted: 50 Wacky Jobs
Klonoa
Marble Saga: Kororinpa
MadWorld
We Ski & Snowboard
Deadly Creatures
Madagascar 2 Africa
Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars

AA scores:

Little King's Story
EA Sports Active
Punch-Out!!
Boom Blox Bash Party
Excitebots: Trick Racing
Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars (Director's Cut)
The House of the Dead: Overkill

Yeah! That's clearly Wii hate, right? :roll:

Hell, I'm surprised that some of those got so high. EA Sports Active? We Ski & Snowboard? Madagascar 2 Africa?! Help Wanted: 50 Wacky Jobs?!!!

Slow reviews? Yes. There are games that I wish were reviewed but weren't. But seriously, this is just silly...

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#65 AsianGammer94
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GameSpot can never touch IGN. IGN is THE website for gaming. I hate the mods here to. Nuff said.

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#66 calvinsora
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GameSpot can never touch IGN. IGN is THE website for gaming. I hate the mods here to. Nuff said.

AsianGammer94

I feel the complete opposite (well, except for the mods, don't know how they are at IGN).

Anyway, to answer moreto the point the thread question, Gamespot unfortunately have to review games after popularity. We all know that Wii games aren't as popular as the games on 360 and PS3. It also has much to do with the enthusiasm of a reviewer. A reviewer will most likely play a game that looks more interesting to him. It's a deplorable situation, but it's something that, for now, we can't do anything to change.

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#67 redfordo
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[QUOTE="AsianGammer94"]

GameSpot can never touch IGN. IGN is THE website for gaming. I hate the mods here to. Nuff said.

calvinsora

I feel the complete opposite (well, except for the mods, don't know how they are at IGN).

Anyway, to answer moreto the point the thread question, Gamespot unfortunately have to review games after popularity. We all know that Wii games aren't as popular as the games on 360 and PS3. It also has much to do with the enthusiasm of a reviewer. A reviewer will most likely play a game that looks more interesting to him. It's a deplorable situation, but it's something that, for now, we can't do anything to change.

Games like Cod WaW, Rock Band 2, and PES 09 for the Wii are all immensely popular games, and the review for the first game I mentioned came signifcantly later than the other consoles, and the second two were not even reviewed at all.

I'm scratching my head here.

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#68 kardine
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Remember when they gave Fire Emblem a 6.0 and slammed it for not having "Mii support'?

Are you kidding?

redfordo
Thats not the reason they gave it a 6. Not that I think this game deserved such a low score, but I don't understand why people hate that they wanted Mii support. GS did underscore this game, but a lot of the criticisms were meaningiful. Mii support was just one of very many examples on how they could have made it more Wii centric.
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#69 redfordo
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Yeah! That's clearly Wii hate, right? :roll:

Hell, I'm surprised that some of those got so high. EA Sports Active? We Ski & Snowboard? Madagascar 2 Africa?! Help Wanted: 50 Wacky Jobs?!!!

Slow reviews? Yes. There are games that I wish were reviewed but weren't. But seriously, this is just silly...

Hungry_Homer111

I never like arguments that involve pulling up a select choice of games in an attempt to prove a point wrong. The games you listed are quality titles and just because EA Sports Active is casual, it's highly critically acclaimed because it's a quality piece of software. I can easily pull up 20x more games that were scored lower on this site than they did on the average. The point being to look at the overall picture.

The main crux of my argument however, is not the review scoring, but the amount of quality titles Gamespot has failed to review for the Wii in general. There is absolutely no excuse for this, nor is there an excsue for Wii versions of a game review being reviewed significantly later than on the other consoles.

Gamespot has made it clear that the Wii is not the same level of priority to them as the other consoles, and that indicates bias on some level.

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#70 savebattery
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GameSpot can never touch IGN. IGN is THE website for gaming. I hate the mods here to. Nuff said.

AsianGammer94
I don't know where people get the idea that IGN is any better. They've been busted numerous times reviewing games they didn't complete (they didn't beat Sonic and the Black Knight, then complained about its length and replay value), and they're funded by ad revenue just like Gamespot it. The best thing to do would be to STOP TRUSTING MAINSTREAM SOURCES. Form your own opinions based on demos, videos, hands-on impressions, and the opinions of people you trust.
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#71 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

Remember when they gave Fire Emblem a 6.0 and slammed it for not having "Mii support'?

Are you kidding?

kardine

Thats not the reason they gave it a 6. Not that I think this game deserved such a low score, but I don't understand why people hate that they wanted Mii support. GS did underscore this game, but a lot of the criticisms were meaningiful. Mii support was just one of very many examples on how they could have made it more Wii centric.

If you re-read my post I never said that. They did however give it a 6, and they did slam if for not having Mii support. Both points I disagree with.

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#72 kardine
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[QUOTE="AsianGammer94"]

GameSpot can never touch IGN. IGN is THE website for gaming. I hate the mods here to. Nuff said.

savebattery
I don't know where people get the idea that IGN is any better. They've been busted numerous times reviewing games they didn't complete (they didn't beat Sonic and the Black Knight, then complained about its length and replay value), and they're funded by ad revenue just like Gamespot it. The best thing to do would be to STOP TRUSTING MAINSTREAM SOURCES. Form your own opinions based on demos, videos, hands-on impressions, and the opinions of people you trust.

How about proving that they did not finish it? Even if they didn't what is a couple levels going to do to a short game, it would have to be a lot of levels. Besides that replay value was not the main gripe. It was the sword mechanic which completely slowed down the game.
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#73 kardine
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[QUOTE="kardine"][QUOTE="redfordo"]

Remember when they gave Fire Emblem a 6.0 and slammed it for not having "Mii support'?

Are you kidding?

redfordo

Thats not the reason they gave it a 6. Not that I think this game deserved such a low score, but I don't understand why people hate that they wanted Mii support. GS did underscore this game, but a lot of the criticisms were meaningiful. Mii support was just one of very many examples on how they could have made it more Wii centric.

If you re-read my post I never said that. They did however give it a 6, and they did slam if for not having Mii support. Both points I disagree with.

No they did not "slam" it for not have Mii support. They mentioned it was a shame it was not in there but it was not a big contributor to the game being a 6. The game deserved better but Miis would have been cool for profiles and online profiles which they should have had. Pointer controls would have been awesome as well. They made a good point that those sort of things were exactly the type of features that would have made the game more unique.
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#74 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

[QUOTE="kardine"] Thats not the reason they gave it a 6. Not that I think this game deserved such a low score, but I don't understand why people hate that they wanted Mii support. GS did underscore this game, but a lot of the criticisms were meaningiful. Mii support was just one of very many examples on how they could have made it more Wii centric.kardine

If you re-read my post I never said that. They did however give it a 6, and they did slam if for not having Mii support. Both points I disagree with.

No they did not "slam" it for not have Mii support. They mentioned it was a shame it was not in there but it was not a big contributor to the game being a 6. The game deserved better but Miis would have been cool for profiles and online profiles which they should have had. Pointer controls would have been awesome as well. They made a good point that those sort of things were exactly the type of features that would have made the game more unique.

I found the interface in FE to be perfect the way it was. I don't think games on the Wii should be docked for not including all of the functions of the console because in many cases, I just want to play a solid game, not one with all of the feautes of the console crammed into it. Does Gamespot make it a point to bring up the fact that most PS3 games don't make proper use of bluray? No.

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#75 Tikicobra
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When it comes to reviews, IGN generally is the one to be trusted. GameSpot editors try to look as critical as possible. I told one of the editors Mad World deserved a higher score and he said he gave it a 7.5 because he'd already given a few 8's and a 9 that year. That's not professional, that's ridiculous.

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#76 redfordo
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When it comes to reviews, IGN generally is the one to be trusted. GameSpot editors try to look as critical as possible. I told one of the editors Mad World deserved a higher score and he said he gave it a 7.5 because he'd already given a few 8's and a 9 that year. That's not professional, that's ridiculous.

Tikicobra

Sounds like he could have been joking. Do you have a link to this?

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#77 bobcheeseball
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I totally agree with TC. This is just absolute nonsense. So many good games dont get looked at but dont worry Gamespot supplies us with reviews for Night at the Museum or Up. Honestly like everyone else, if it werent for the forums..

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#78 Durhamster
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This whole thread is hilarious. :lol:

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#79 kardine
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[QUOTE="kardine"][QUOTE="redfordo"]If you re-read my post I never said that. They did however give it a 6, and they did slam if for not having Mii support. Both points I disagree with.

redfordo

No they did not "slam" it for not have Mii support. They mentioned it was a shame it was not in there but it was not a big contributor to the game being a 6. The game deserved better but Miis would have been cool for profiles and online profiles which they should have had. Pointer controls would have been awesome as well. They made a good point that those sort of things were exactly the type of features that would have made the game more unique.

I found the interface in FE to be perfect the way it was. I don't think games on the Wii should be docked for not including all of the functions of the console because in many cases, I just want to play a solid game, not one with all of the feautes of the console crammed into it. Does Gamespot make it a point to bring up the fact that most PS3 games don't make proper use of bluray? No.

Sorry but pointer controls of the interface esp. in game would have been so much faster, regardless of whether the old way works. You can keep tryin to discreditthe content of this reviewbut it just does not work that way when they are mostly right. What was said in the review should be listened to because it has some good advice. Use Wii functions that improve the experience. They do not have to cram anything.

As for PS3 games, I never said GS was consistant or fair in comparison to cross consoles.

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#80 christ4ever9889
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I could be wrong, but one of the reasons why gamespot may not review wii games and put them as priority, is that no one appreciates it, if they give a game a low score people complain, I remember how many complaints there were for mad world (7.5 I believe) well if no one is going to appreciate it or if everyone is going to ign anyway, why should they review wii games, to them it'll be a waste of time so they get to them eventually or if it's a really big title gamespot will review it usually pretty quickly, I think the big problem is gamespot users complaining, the moment they review something everyone is complaining that gamespot is too hard, if no one likes their reviews, then gamespot will review things where the 360, PS3, and PC users will appreciate it.

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#82 calvinsora
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="AsianGammer94"]

GameSpot can never touch IGN. IGN is THE website for gaming. I hate the mods here to. Nuff said.

redfordo

I feel the complete opposite (well, except for the mods, don't know how they are at IGN).

Anyway, to answer moreto the point the thread question, Gamespot unfortunately have to review games after popularity. We all know that Wii games aren't as popular as the games on 360 and PS3. It also has much to do with the enthusiasm of a reviewer. A reviewer will most likely play a game that looks more interesting to him. It's a deplorable situation, but it's something that, for now, we can't do anything to change.

Games like Cod WaW, Rock Band 2, and PES 09 for the Wii are all immensely popular games, and the review for the first game I mentioned came signifcantly later than the other consoles, and the second two were not even reviewed at all.

I'm scratching my head here.

The games themselves were popular, yes. The Wii version, not so much. But as I say, the situation is deplorable and a bit selectionist.

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#83 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I feel the complete opposite (well, except for the mods, don't know how they are at IGN).

Anyway, to answer moreto the point the thread question, Gamespot unfortunately have to review games after popularity. We all know that Wii games aren't as popular as the games on 360 and PS3. It also has much to do with the enthusiasm of a reviewer. A reviewer will most likely play a game that looks more interesting to him. It's a deplorable situation, but it's something that, for now, we can't do anything to change.

calvinsora

Games like Cod WaW, Rock Band 2, and PES 09 for the Wii are all immensely popular games, and the review for the first game I mentioned came signifcantly later than the other consoles, and the second two were not even reviewed at all.

I'm scratching my head here.

The games themselves were popular, yes. The Wii version, not so much. But as I say, the situation is deplorable and a bit selectionist.

I have not kept tabs on the sales of the other two, but I know for a fact that Cod WaW, which was reviewed months late by GS scored has sold over a million copies..... over a million copies.

That is huge game by any measure of the tape.

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#84 Sepewrath
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]Not to mention that Wii reviews on Gamespot are significantly lower than the collective aveage on Gamerankings or Metacritic.clicketyclick
Actually, this is the reason why I read GS reviews. They're more critical than other sites, so you usually get a better picture of the game's flaws. The mere fact that their reviews are lower than the average doesn't demonstrate that anything is wrong. It's kind of odd to bring this up. Also, I really don't see how their reviews have been lacking in quality. If you're going to make allegations, you need to provide examples or else your feedback will be overlooked.

Personally I don't care about reviews, I know what I like and I am not dependent on someone else to tell me what I like. I only look to reviews to see if games have technical flaws, like bugs and glitches that are game breaking. So what GS does and doesn't do really is of little concern to me. However I can understannd what people are saying as GS's Wii coverage is really half assed, they'll talk about Madden 50 all day but the only Nintendo games worthy of substantial coverage is big titles like Mario and Zelda. And when it comes to reviews they seem to make games out to have more problems than they really do and for those who purchase games based on reviews it poses an issue. Take the review of GST where they are basically talking like the controls are broken, or the game has an impossible learning curve. They are basically making moutains out of mole hills, they aren't necessarily more critical of games they are basically taking small issues and making them into gamebreaking issues. I have noticed in a number of thier reviews they cry wolf. But hey, them the breaks kids if you don't like it, all you can really do is not support the site.
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="redfordo"]Games like Cod WaW, Rock Band 2, and PES 09 for the Wii are all immensely popular games, and the review for the first game I mentioned came signifcantly later than the other consoles, and the second two were not even reviewed at all.

I'm scratching my head here.

redfordo

The games themselves were popular, yes. The Wii version, not so much. But as I say, the situation is deplorable and a bit selectionist.

I have not kept tabs on the sales of the other two, but I know for a fact that Cod WaW, which was reviewed months late by GS scored has sold over a million copies..... over a million copies.

That is huge game by any measure of the tape.

As I also pointed out, the reviewers pick their games. They were most likely not very interested in the Wii version, which is simple disrespect to the Wii, but I commented on that earlier.

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#86 Dycras
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it'd be nice if we could somehow boycott gamespot or something so they'd stop treating it so badly...

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#87 redfordo
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it'd be nice if we could somehow boycott gamespot or something so they'd stop treating it so badly...

Dycras

It's difficult to organize something like that and have people who are willing to go along with it. I think the best thing to do is be heard and complain in the link I have in the OP. Gamespot cannot continue to ignore a thread where their readership continues toshow they are unhappy.

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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

Remember when they gave Fire Emblem a 6.0 and slammed it for not having "Mii support'?

Are you kidding?

kardine

Thats not the reason they gave it a 6. Not that I think this game deserved such a low score, but I don't understand why people hate that they wanted Mii support. GS did underscore this game, but a lot of the criticisms were meaningiful. Mii support was just one of very many examples on how they could have made it more Wii centric.

IGN is just a better website because they go beyond reviewing and previewing games. IGN not only does that for games but for tech, movies, tv shows, comics, music, dvd's, blu- ray, iPhone apps, wide range of podcast, better article features, and better videos( IGN Daily Fix, GameScoop News Break, ect). I can pretty much go on all day. The problem I have with GameSpot is not how the reviewgames but because the are not posting their reviews on time. You usually have to wait weeks after a game is relase to get a review. Plus these stupid mods! Nuff said!

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#89 kardine
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[QUOTE="kardine"][QUOTE="redfordo"]

Remember when they gave Fire Emblem a 6.0 and slammed it for not having "Mii support'?

Are you kidding?

AsianGammer94

Thats not the reason they gave it a 6. Not that I think this game deserved such a low score, but I don't understand why people hate that they wanted Mii support. GS did underscore this game, but a lot of the criticisms were meaningiful. Mii support was just one of very many examples on how they could have made it more Wii centric.

IGN is just a better website because they go beyond reviewing and previewing games. IGN not only does that for games but for tech, movies, tv shows, comics, music, dvd's, blu- ray, iPhone apps, wide range of podcast, better article features, and better videos( IGN Daily Fix, GameScoop News Break, ect). I can pretty much go on all day. The problem I have with GameSpot is not how the reviewgames but because the are not posting their reviews on time. You usually have to wait weeks after a game is relase to get a review. Plus these stupid mods! Nuff said!

I like IGN as well but it seems this place is filled with misguided loyalty. Where you have to like GS and hate IGN. So illegitimate complaints arise about IGN that amount to BS in the form of a paragraph.
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#90 blankshore
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[QUOTE="AsianGammer94"]

GameSpot can never touch IGN. IGN is THE website for gaming. I hate the mods here to. Nuff said.

savebattery

I don't know where people get the idea that IGN is any better. They've been busted numerous times reviewing games they didn't complete (they didn't beat Sonic and the Black Knight, then complained about its length and replay value), and they're funded by ad revenue just like Gamespot it. The best thing to do would be to STOP TRUSTING MAINSTREAM SOURCES. Form your own opinions based on demos, videos, hands-on impressions, and the opinions of people you trust.

IGN does better reviews. Not only that, but they are always on time, and they always review the games we care about. They are also honest, and don't show any form of bias--most of the time. I still haven't forgiven them for their Wii Music review though. And really, can we fault them for not finishing Sonic and the Black Knight?

But this site has some of the best forums on the web, which is why I stick around.

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#91 redfordo
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Gamespots Virtua Tennis 2009 review is up for those interested: 6.0

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Virtua Tennis 2009 Review

Virtua Tennis is too easy and inconsistent to entertain you for long.

The Good

  • Fun minigames.

The Bad

  • World Tour mode is way too easy
  • Steep learning curve
  • Online play is mired in lag.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/virtuatennis2009/review.html

lol wut?

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#92 kardine
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And MySims Racing. This does not help....

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#93 DKII
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Sounds like some people here just need to find a new forum. ;>
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#94 redfordo
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Sounds like some people here just need to find a new forum. ;>DKII
Sounds like some of us prefer not to run away from what we perceive to be a problem but rather tackle it head on.

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#95 holdfasthope
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The only Wii review on here I have any gripes with is MadWorld, but I totally understand where the reviewer is coming from, I just don't share his opinion. And regardless of if people feel their reviews are biased, GameSpot has the best gaming forum online, and the Wii component of that forum is no exception. Yes, some reviews are late, and that could (should) be better, but it's a small complaint. What reviews in particular are people so pissed about?
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#96 redfordo
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The only Wii review on here I have any gripes with is MadWorld, but I totally understand where the reviewer is coming from, I just don't share his opinion. And regardless of if people feel their reviews are biased, GameSpot has the best gaming forum online, and the Wii component of that forum is no exception. Yes, some reviews are late, and that could (should) be better, but it's a small complaint. What reviews in particular are people so pissed about?holdfasthope
You forgot to mention that alot of reviews are missing altogether, and for me personally, there's many gamespot reviews I take issue with. Usually due to them being poorly written and chalked full of incosistencies. Take a look a few posts for an example.

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#97 Durhamster
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This sounds like some conspiracy theory thread.

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#98 redfordo
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This sounds like some conspiracy theory thread.

Durhamster

We're upset that Gamespot is failing to review many Wii titles.

Mind telling me which part of that sounds like a conspiracy?

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#100 sagax03
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at leeast they didnt trash Punch-out!!!1! and excitebots but i was very sad when they game Klonoa a 7.5, is one of my most fav. games fo all time!