Was I the only customer that was somewhat suprised? Is this the Wii's limits?

I just got my Wii this month and the only game I have is Wii Sports so far.  But I've owned a Gamecube, Xbox, PS2, etc., etc., and I've seen the graphics for various games on the Xbox 360, PS3, and other Wii titles.  The fact is that cross platform games are going to look better on the 360 and PS3.  Games developed for the Wii on the Wii are going to look just fine, however, and will improve with time. 

By the way, I'd rather play a game with simpler graphics and jaggies and use the Wii controller doing it then I would playing it with prettier graphics on another console but without the Wii controller.  I can get pretty graphics on my PC.  For pure fun nothing really beats getting into the game like you can with the Wiimote.

The games so far have not gone to the wii's full limits. The wii can do alot more than what we have seen so far

 

 

Yea... ignorance. Why do you think I made this thread? To ask questions perhaps? Hell no! I just wanna bash Nintendo because that's the kind of arrogant a$$hole I am! Jesus man, use that one good synaps that you do have and you could tell by context that I am well aware of my lack of knowledge!

So stop and read the post before you label me some anti Nintendo fanboy!

isthisnametakn

lol that's not what a synapse does...  (you should've just said brain cell... or nueron) anyhow...

 I agree with the topic starter about this being an open discussion/question and answer type of thread... WHAT I'd like to add on however (on a completely different matter, or rather this current matter) is that as stated earlier, the wii has yet to have a game BUILT with it's engine, and another thing is, You have the system so enjoy it... quit acting like "technical pansies" about whose got which highest RAM and crap like that, you all need to grow up, someone else on these forums once said that a true gamer doesn't judge the system he judges the games... that person was me.... lol none the less it's a true statement that you should follow... sure he used bad examples for graphical comparrison, and Red steel's creators (microsoft and crap) said themselves that, that game was meant to be a test drive to see how the  consumer (you) respond to the controlls... right now, it's WAY to early to decide the wiis true graphical power, allthough I must say that one picutre of mario galaxy was pretty impressive (the earth thing was anyhow) how about we all come back to this topic after Brawl comes out... that way we'll have a good idea where the wii is headed, and where it can go

I think I remember reading somewhere that we've only seen 30% of the Wii's graphical power. However I have no link or proof of this. The games that you've played though are not meant to be visually impressive. Mario Galaxy, RE4, RE:UC, MP3 and SSBB should look great and set a good standardLProjektST

Yea... ignorance. Why do you think I made this thread? To ask questions perhaps? Hell no! I just wanna bash Nintendo because that's the kind of arrogant a$$hole I am! Jesus man, use that one good synaps that you do have and you could tell by context that I am well aware of my lack of knowledge!

So stop and read the post before you label me some anti Nintendo fanboy!

isthisnametakn

Simmer down now...

I know you're a little angry but you don't need to troll on the forums. Go play some GTA, punch a punching bag or run a few laps around the track. Sure the graphics are less than stellar for the first few Wii games. The developers actually expected the Wii to sell about as well as the Gamecube. There is a lag from when the developers start making games to when they are finally in the stores. That lag is about 1 to 5 years. Theres nothing wii can do about it right now (except wait). 

God's Speed 'isthisnametakn'

It doesn't take a long look at the Wii to realize that Nintendo clearly went of in a different direction that the other two. Hell just look at the name. I can see that Nintendo was not intending their console to be a powerhouse; they wanted it to be more for the casual or social gamer... but WTF! I've never been one to slam graphics so long as they aren't totally subpar. But some of the stuff I've seen is borderline hideous! Sorry for the !s. I'm not meaning to bash the Wii. Please don't get me wrong. It is a good console for its owne reasons. But if not only as a matter of pride you'd think they'd try to make something respectable looking. I've played Wii play, Wii sports, NFS: Carbon, and Raving Rabbids. They are all very fun games but is this really the limits of the Wii as far as graphics? I know you need little time to learn the ins and outs of console. Please. Pleasse. PLEASE don't get me wrong. I have not dismissed the Wii. I will continue to play it and look for good games because I love playing it. I'm just wondering if anybody else was disappointed as well because if they were, I haven't heard anything.

isthisnametakn

Are you kidding me!???!??!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?//                              

 The graphics in NFS were insane! I dont know what youve been eatin lately, but it mustve taken youre vision!

I agree with the comments on graphics. I too can overlook bad graphics for good gameplay, but this is at the limit. Especially for the console being new.

Not to mention the controls for 95% of the games are quirky and just don't work. Hope they get it together soon.

I find the situation to be pretty ironic.  Developers aren't putting forth their best efforts regarding Wii development, even though it's the cheapest system to develop for and has potiential to give developers the largest profit.

I think developers have eased themselves into the mindset that if the system isn't focused solely on graphical prowess, then the system's customers don't want graphics with effort put into them.  That **** isn't going to fly a year from now when ports are no longer selling because of how crappy they look. 

Am I the only one that doesn't really care that Wii's graphics aren't fantastic looking? I'm happily playing in 480i (though I could easily get the component and go 480p). Whether it's Paper Mario, the new Zelda game, or any of the VC games...I think they look fine the way they are. I'm not expecting 360 or PS3 quality graphics from the Wii. Just solid gameplay, that's why I GOT the Wii. I have a 360. It fulfills my HD need. And the online experience. Wii fulfills my solid gameplay need just fine. It wouldn't bother me at all if they improved the graphics, but it's not something I worry about.

[QUOTE="isthisnametakn"]

It doesn't take a long look at the Wii to realize that Nintendo clearly went of in a different direction that the other two. Hell just look at the name. I can see that Nintendo was not intending their console to be a powerhouse; they wanted it to be more for the casual or social gamer... but WTF! I've never been one to slam graphics so long as they aren't totally subpar. But some of the stuff I've seen is borderline hideous! Sorry for the !s. I'm not meaning to bash the Wii. Please don't get me wrong. It is a good console for its owne reasons. But if not only as a matter of pride you'd think they'd try to make something respectable looking. I've played Wii play, Wii sports, NFS: Carbon, and Raving Rabbids. They are all very fun games but is this really the limits of the Wii as far as graphics? I know you need little time to learn the ins and outs of console. Please. Pleasse. PLEASE don't get me wrong. I have not dismissed the Wii. I will continue to play it and look for good games because I love playing it. I'm just wondering if anybody else was disappointed as well because if they were, I haven't heard anything.

george_is_link6

Are you kidding me!???!??!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?//

The graphics in NFS were insane! I dont know what youve been eatin lately, but it mustve taken youre vision!

OMFG QUESTIONMARK EXCLAMATION MARK!?!?!!!!!?!?!? 

[QUOTE="isthisnametakn"]

 

 

Yea... ignorance. Why do you think I made this thread? To ask questions perhaps? Hell no! I just wanna bash Nintendo because that's the kind of arrogant a$$hole I am! Jesus man, use that one good synaps that you do have and you could tell by context that I am well aware of my lack of knowledge!

So stop and read the post before you label me some anti Nintendo fanboy!

whostolemysoul

lol that's not what a synapse does...  (you should've just said brain cell... or nueron) anyhow...

 I agree with the topic starter about this being an open discussion/question and answer type of thread... WHAT I'd like to add on however (on a completely different matter, or rather this current matter) is that as stated earlier, the wii has yet to have a game BUILT with it's engine, and another thing is, You have the system so enjoy it... quit acting like "technical pansies" about whose got which highest RAM and crap like that, you all need to grow up, someone else on these forums once said that a true gamer doesn't judge the system he judges the games... that person was me.... lol none the less it's a true statement that you should follow... sure he used bad examples for graphical comparrison, and Red steel's creators (microsoft and crap) said themselves that, that game was meant to be a test drive to see how the  consumer (you) respond to the controlls... right now, it's WAY to early to decide the wiis true graphical power, allthough I must say that one picutre of mario galaxy was pretty impressive (the earth thing was anyhow) how about we all come back to this topic after Brawl comes out... that way we'll have a good idea where the wii is headed, and where it can go

Synapses are neurological cells that send electrical pulses the central nervous system. The brain then interprates them as smell, noise, sight, etc. The point, moron, is that you don't have to two synapses to rub together to tell your pea-sized brain what an idiot you are.

this is coming from a guy who has master chief as there avatar:lol: but anyway have you ever seen the trailers or gameplay movies for super mario galaxies....have you?....no?... then go look at them ill wait......................................................done? ok now THERES the wii's graphical capabilitys i swear that game looks like an xbox 360 game:shock: if these devolopers just got off there lazy you know whats8) then all games could look that goodsodafountan

I like Halo. Doesn't make me a fanboy. You like homer. Doesn't make you an idiot... I think. Why do people keep thinking I want to bash the Wii? I asked this to see what other customers thought on the subject. I don't mind you saying they look good to you. But some of you guys are hellbent on name calling. Console Wars was the last thing on my mind. That obviously was on yours (tsk tsk).

PS

Just give me one good reason as to WTF this thread should be locked. Sounds like censurship to me. Nintendo fanboys trying to create some forced Utopic Forum shielded from the world of free speech.

the games i've seen displayed at electronics boutique for the PS3 look absolutely amazing. each time i see them in action i want to slap down the cash then and there. (but i'm waiting til later this year) when i look at games on the Wii, i feel like i'm playing on the gamecube. but and as far as i'm concerned, i thought windwaker and resident evil 4 for gamecube were amazing!

if i compare graphics between PS3 and Wii, of course PS3 comes out on top. that's without question. does that mean the Wii is sustandard? absolutely not. far from it. i am super happy playing zelda and super paper mario on the Wii and am super excited about the upcoming Wii titles this year.

i'm hoping to see dragon warrior 4 soon on the virtual console, so am i concerned about graphics? nope. everything i've seen on the Wii has made me happy. and i think things wil only get better. 

My estimate for where the Wii will top out graphics-wise is just under the Xbox's best. So take games like Doom 3, Chronicles of Riddick, and Ninja Gaiden Black and take them one tiny step down. That is where I think we'll see the Wii top out in a year or two. I make this judgement based on the Wii's "rumored" specs in comparison to the Xbox's. Most notable is the Wii's lack of pixel shaders.

However, many people use the excuse that we are early on in the Wii's life cycle and developers have yet to understand the Wii hardware. This argument falls apart for two reasons.

1. The Wii is by all accounts just an overclocked GameCube, so developers are already well aware of how its hardware works. There is no learning curve to overcome like there is with the other consoles, so there is theoretically nothing keeping developers from reaching the Wii's full graphical potential already.
2. On consoles that are relatively easy to develop for, launch or near-launch games do not look that bad compared to later efforts. Case in point: Rogue Leader was a GC launch game, and Dead or Alive 3 was an Xbox launch game. Both of these launch games are among the best-looking games on their respective consoles.

RyanWare

So you're comparing the specs to the xbox and the wii? Wow, you must not know what architecture is.

the games i've seen displayed at electronics boutique for the PS3 look absolutely amazing. each time i see them in action i want to slap down the cash then and there. (but i'm waiting til later this year) when i look at games on the Wii, i feel like i'm playing on the gamecube. but and as far as i'm concerned, i thought windwaker and resident evil 4 for gamecube were amazing!

if i compare graphics between PS3 and Wii, of course PS3 comes out on top. that's without question. does that mean the Wii is sustandard? absolutely not. far from it. i am super happy playing zelda and super paper mario on the Wii and am super excited about the upcoming Wii titles this year.

i'm hoping to see dragon warrior 4 soon on the virtual console, so am i concerned about graphics? nope. everything i've seen on the Wii has made me happy. and i think things wil only get better. 

chefstubbies

Dont judge the Wii graphically, untill u play Metriod or Mario galaxy..

It doesn't take a long look at the Wii to realize that Nintendo clearly went of in a different direction that the other two. Hell just look at the name. I can see that Nintendo was not intending their console to be a powerhouse; they wanted it to be more for the casual or social gamer... but WTF! I've never been one to slam graphics so long as they aren't totally subpar. But some of the stuff I've seen is borderline hideous! Sorry for the !s. I'm not meaning to bash the Wii. Please don't get me wrong. It is a good console for its owne reasons. But if not only as a matter of pride you'd think they'd try to make something respectable looking. I've played Wii play, Wii sports, NFS: Carbon, and Raving Rabbids. They are all very fun games but is this really the limits of the Wii as far as graphics? I know you need little time to learn the ins and outs of console. Please. Pleasse. PLEASE don't get me wrong. I have not dismissed the Wii. I will continue to play it and look for good games because I love playing it. I'm just wondering if anybody else was disappointed as well because if they were, I haven't heard anything.

isthisnametakn

? what game are you talking about? The Heat Seeker thing?isthisnametakn

No they were talking about some "kids playground" game that lets you 'be a kid again'. This is how I feel about them making a game so stupid:?!#@$ 

Its called EA playground... >_> 

Arg. Gotcha.

[QUOTE="RyanWare"]

My estimate for where the Wii will top out graphics-wise is just under the Xbox's best. So take games like Doom 3, Chronicles of Riddick, and Ninja Gaiden Black and take them one tiny step down. That is where I think we'll see the Wii top out in a year or two. I make this judgement based on the Wii's "rumored" specs in comparison to the Xbox's. Most notable is the Wii's lack of pixel shaders.

However, many people use the excuse that we are early on in the Wii's life cycle and developers have yet to understand the Wii hardware. This argument falls apart for two reasons.

1. The Wii is by all accounts just an overclocked GameCube, so developers are already well aware of how its hardware works. There is no learning curve to overcome like there is with the other consoles, so there is theoretically nothing keeping developers from reaching the Wii's full graphical potential already.
2. On consoles that are relatively easy to develop for, launch or near-launch games do not look that bad compared to later efforts. Case in point: Rogue Leader was a GC launch game, and Dead or Alive 3 was an Xbox launch game. Both of these launch games are among the best-looking games on their respective consoles.

kiruyama

So you're comparing the specs to the xbox and the wii? Wow, you must not know what architecture is.

Sorry, but I'm well aware that the Xbox is built on drastically different architecture than the Wii and GC are and I've taken that into account. The Wii has a faster processor, it has a faster GPU, and it has more (and faster) RAM than the Xbox. It one-ups the Xbox in almost every way... it's just those darn pixel shaders that bring the Wii down a big notch. The Wii can pump out all the polygons it wants to, but this isn't the year 2000 anymore (which is when the GC/Wii architecture was built) - pixel shaders are what make modern games (and Xbox games) look so great.

I just feel lied to, Developers said it had the potential of a 1800XT. But i have not seen one game on Wii that looks better than a gamecube game. Come on, you at least need a game that can be used technical showcase for a new console.

I think the Wii is a Gamecube, suped up or not it won't matter, developers will aim for equal or under GC graphics. DK jet looks like smeared N64 graphics.