What is the HARDEST RPG for the DS?

I loooooove the classic random encounter RPGs. There really is no reason why I should like em but I do... Anyway, What do you think is the hardest RPG out there for the DS? I need to test my powers on some new games :P

I'm sure everyone's first thought is Etrian Odyssey I and II but are there any others? I love the Dragon Quest games' length but I just wish they were harder.

Any takers?

PS: I'm talking about it being hard AND satisfying. I don't know how to descirbe the feeling but... like Castlevania Order of Ecclesia on Hard Mode LvL 1 (now that was fun!)

FF III was pretty challenging, but i think etrian oddessy 1 and 2 are both quite a bit harder. i havnt played any othe super challenging DS RPGs

I found Phantom Hourglass to be extremely hard. When I FINALLY finished off the very last boss and Zelda and Link returned to the ship- YESSSS! :D

And let's not talk about getting through that temple - over and over and over.............. :roll:

FF III was pretty challenging, but i think etrian oddessy 1 and 2 are both quite a bit harder. i havnt played any othe super challenging DS RPGs

the_wet_mop

hahaha i was gonna say ff III and i thought ppl would laugh at me XD. but i never really took ot the FF series which was a shame...

I found Phantom Hourglass to be extremely hard. When I FINALLY finished off the very last boss and Zelda and Link returned to the ship- YESSSS! :D

And let's not talk about getting through that temple - over and over and over.............. :roll:

FF III, just because of the last level.

Etrian Odyssey is definitely a really hard RPG, although it is a bunch of grinding, so it's up to you to decide if it's "hard", or just takes a whole lot of time because it's a grind fest. Dont' get me wrong, I like the game, it's just not as much skill as it is time. FF 4 was actually pretty challanging, nothing impossible, but enough to stop you from breezing through the game for sure.

I found Phantom Hourglass to be extremely hard. When I FINALLY finished off the very last boss and Zelda and Link returned to the ship- YESSSS! :D

And let's not talk about getting through that temple - over and over and over.............. :roll:

Detroit222

Really? I found that game to be insanely easy. Etrain Odyssey and Final Fnatasy III are you're best bets for tough RPG.

I found Phantom Hourglass to be extremely hard. When I FINALLY finished off the very last boss and Zelda and Link returned to the ship- YESSSS! :D

And let's not talk about getting through that temple - over and over and over.............. :roll:

Detroit222

Final Fantas III was fairly easy compared to FFI and II (`100 floor dungeons lulz)

Etrian Odyssey is the hardest RPG I've ever played on the DS, hard yes, fun no. But if your a masochist, go right ahead

It has to be FFIV, its really hard near the end

FF III. The save system is punishing.Next-Gen-Tec

agreed, and also there is this one point where you go in this area where is NO save point and NO way of healing yourself and COUNTLESS of battles with DIFFICULT enemies that won't STOP KILLING YOU lol XD i never beat that game for that reason

I would say Final Fantasy 4 without using any guide.TriniPlayer

With Final Fantasy 4, to me the entire game was easy except for the end (might helped cus I played it on the SNES). I was able to breeze through all the bosses before the moon. All of the random creatures there require you to be like 30 levels higher than you were when you actually gained entrance to the core. THAT was a grindfest right there. Final Fantasy 3 was definately a harder one... I actually havnt finished it. I always change my mind with what jobs I want everyone to have. I suppose I should start a new game on that to get the story again.

Etrian Odyssey was hard but didn't have the story I was looking for... I'm a sucker for the one chosen hero or group of heroes thing. Call me nostalgic.

I just got Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor... I'm not fond of SRPGs like FF tactics but I'll give this one a shot!

Also, anyone here anything about Kingdom Hearts' play style or anything like that?

• Final Fantasy 3 (lots of fake difficulty)
• Final Fantasy 4
• Etrian Oddyssey
• Etrian Oddyssey 2
• The Dark Spire

The Dark Spire, then Etrian Odyssey iI, then the original Etrian Odyssey. Most everything else on the system is pretty easy, but those three are tough as nails.

I have yet to finish Final Fantasy III. Its hard but not insanely hard.

Had a lot of trouble with Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, but its not a straight up RPG so I guess it doesn't count.

FF III. The save system is punishing.Next-Gen-Tec

One reason why I haven't finished it.

The Dark Spire is a pretty rough game. One of those super old-school, first-person dungeon crawlers. Gotta have a alot of patience with that one.

I say the Etrian Odysseys. You can't save unless you're back at the town, for crying out loud.drummer131

EOs are quite hard and sometimes frustrating, when you get killed accidentaly after roaming 1 hour;

SMT: Devil Survivor is a "just right" game, but some boss fights are quite hard.

FFIV is hard too, but its nothing that some grinding don't fix.

Knights in the Nightmare can be challenging at the first time, but it get easier as you get the hang of it.

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I found Phantom Hourglass to be extremely hard. When I FINALLY finished off the very last boss and Zelda and Link returned to the ship- YESSSS! :D

And let's not talk about getting through that temple - over and over and over.............. :roll:

Will47

Indeed.

Knights in nightmare by far.

Shiren the Wanderer. No contest.

Pokemon :P

But seriously try The Dark Spire. From what I know, it's a really old school RPG game.

the hardest RPG to complete is black sigil, not because of the difficulty, but the patience required to fight a random battle every 2 steps.

the hardest game gamplay-wise is probably FFIV.

o yer, i forgot to metion Dark Spire, that game is virtually impossible without a guide.