Why are a lot of people more excited about Goldeneye than conduit 2?

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#1 StarFire571
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First of all, Goldeneye isin't even being made by the same people, so it's not like this is rare's long awaited sequel. The conduit can have more people in an online match, voice chat, wii motion plus support, co op, split screen, tons of customization, and a better story.

As someone else put, goldeneye looks like CoD in Bond skin. Also, not as much customization, voice chat support, ect.

I probaly won't get either, but Conduit 2 looks much better.

Why should someone buy Goldeneye over Conduit 2?

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#2 GabuEx
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I like Bond, and I like Call of Duty. Meanwhile, I hated the Conduit. Why would I not be more excited about Goldeneye?

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#3 Jaysonguy
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The Conduit is being made by a dev that is going on 18 years without a good game

The Goldeneye devs are not High Voltage

I don't see why anyone would look forward for the Conduit since the first one was so bad and it comes from a bad developer

You might as well ask why people are looking forward to Black Ops and not the new Data Design game

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#4 Metal_Mario99
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Because James Bond is awesome, and because "The Conduit" was mediocre at best. Also, who gives a damn about the online multiplayer options, really? If you're big on online multiplayer, then you probably have a PS3 or Xbox 360. You don't buy Wii games for the online experience.
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#5 wiifan001
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Because Conduit 2 is being developed by the same dang people, and in a time of just a year later. The first Conduit was not a good game, the 2nd won't be much...if any better Goldeneye will be something good. Sure, it won't have the rep like its N64 version had its impact upon by a long shot, but will be remembered as one of the best wii exclusive fps titles
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#6 Zophar87
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No surprise... Goldeneye has had a cult following for over a decade.

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#7 elbert_b_23
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i never did play the first conduit game but it did leave a bad taste in a lot of gamers mouths and HVS really hasn't been a good dev the only really good game they made was Hunter: The Reckoning that was last gen
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#8 KBFloYd
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why not look foward toboth like me..

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#9 Tri-Enforcer
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GoldenEye has the well known name going for itself, but that's about it. Also, Activision has been doing more promotions and creating awareness than what Sega has done thus far with Conduit 2. It seems GoldenEye is getting the most hype that Activision has ever put towards a Wii game. I'm actually interested in both. I want GoldenEye so that I can own those who play with dual analog controls. GoldenEye is the first Wii FPS that actually allows use of not only pointer controls but also dual analog. I still think Conduit 2 is the better deal, but I may still get both--I really enjoy Wii FPS games.

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#11 BrunoBRS
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simply put, the first the conduit didn't deliver for most people. on the other hand, the original goldeneye 007 was praised as one of the best FPSs of its time, and one of the first successful console FPSs (yes, they existed before halo)
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#12 haziqonfire
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Conduit 2 is like a paper bag filled with dog poo and Goldeneye is probably a good game.

I pick the game.

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#13 Tri-Enforcer
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Conduit 2 is like a paper bag filled with dog poo and Goldeneye is probably a good game.

I pick the game.

Haziqonfire

Stop trolling.

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First of all, Goldeneye isin't even being made by the same people, so it's not like this is rare's long awaited sequel. The conduit can have more people in an online match, voice chat, wii motion plus support, co op, split screen, tons of customization, and a better story.

As someone else put, goldeneye looks like CoD in Bond skin. Also, not as much customization, voice chat support, ect.

I probaly won't get either, but Conduit 2 looks much better.

Why should someone buy Goldeneye over Conduit 2?

StarFire571

Then why this thread?

Goldeneye doesn't have HVS so it wins and it has a name

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#16 wiifan001
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Stop trolling.

Tri-Enforcer

Hey I saw your Halo Reach thread on the xbox360 forum

:D

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#17 Tri-Enforcer
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[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

Stop trolling.

wiifan001

Hey I saw your Halo Reach thread on the xbox360 forum

:D

I did that just to see the 360 fanboys crowd around their beloved franchise...lol. Shame it got locked and I got a warning.

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#18 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

Stop trolling.

Tri-Enforcer

Hey I saw your Halo Reach thread on the xbox360 forum

:D

I did that just to see the 360 fanboys crowd around their beloved franchise...lol. Shame it got locked and I got a warning.

well, it IS blatant trolling and you just admited it here with this very post. if you want to see fanboys angry, you must be more suave with your baits :P

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#20 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

I did that just to see the 360 fanboys crowd around their beloved franchise...lol. Shame it got locked and I got a warning.

Tri-Enforcer

well, it IS blatant trolling and you just admited it here with this very post. if you want to see fanboys angry, you must be more suave with your baits :P

Since I've been a member I have never trolled. I guess everyone has to try it once and see how it feels. Well at least I did it towards an overrated franchise, who have the most hypocritical fanboys.

the most hypocritical fanboys would have to be the zelda ones :P
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the most hypocritical fanboys would have to be the zelda ones :PBrunoBRS
Will you stop attacking the Zelda fanbase already?
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#22 snover2009
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The Conduit is being made by a dev that is going on 18 years without a good game

The Goldeneye devs are not High Voltage

I don't see why anyone would look forward for the Conduit since the first one was so bad and it comes from a bad developer

You might as well ask why people are looking forward to Black Ops and not the new Data Design game

Jaysonguy

The only bad thing about the Conduit I think was that it was stuck in the past. Will Conduit 2 be a AAA game? Don't really think so, but will it be better than the original? Most likely. The Conduit's controls and visuals I believe are perfect, and since they are including features that are standard for most shooters now (Iron Sights, Sprint function, Co-op, etc) that it should be at worst a good game that deserves a rent. You may be wrong and it would rock, or I may be wrong and it would suck. But this time, I'm not hyping it to avoid dissapointment, I'm just ganna wait until it comes.

As for Goldeneye, I can see this game failing big time, but I could be wrong.

I will most likely buy and enjoy both.

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#23 nintenjoe3
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Personally, I think Conduit 2 is giong to be WAY better.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] the most hypocritical fanboys would have to be the zelda ones :Pwiifan001
Will you stop attacking the Zelda fanbase already?

uuh... no? it's fun :P plus it's not like i'm being dead serious here, or pointing directly at someone. and you have to admit it. they complained wind waker and majora's mask were different (even if in the case of wind waker it was only graphically and the sea theme), asked for more of OoT, then proceeded to complain about TP because it was more of OoT and are now asking for something different.
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#25 goblaa
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Goldeneye hasn't dissapointed us yet. Coduit has.

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] the most hypocritical fanboys would have to be the zelda ones :PBrunoBRS
Will you stop attacking the Zelda fanbase already?

uuh... no? it's fun :P plus it's not like i'm being dead serious here, or pointing directly at someone. and you have to admit it. they complained wind waker and majora's mask were different (even if in the case of wind waker it was only graphically and the sea theme), asked for more of OoT, then proceeded to complain about TP because it was more of OoT and are now asking for something different.

The complaint about Majora's Mask is that it wasn't as good Ocarina of Time, and the whole time frame wasn't admired by many Windwaker was solely the art style and the traveling by boat. Twilight Princess, and you'll probably disagree, was the Ocarina of Time nostalgia, that in comparison Twilight Princess failed harder than anything Zelda has ever had going for. It tried to be the next Ocarina of Time, but was completely crushed to nearly every extent, if not all extent, and thus we have TP, which somehow is still an excellent game of its own right. Lastly in Skyward Sword, people are complaining right now because they're worried. At its core, it's Zelda with Motion Plus and that's really all that's known right now. All the things I mentioned earlier about Majora's Mask and windwaker were immediately shown when they had their first footage. But as for Skyward Sword, at its core we really don't know anything.
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#27 almossbb
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sheesh stop bashing cod so much people, it isnt a horrible game, but i dont think it is the best either, it is a solid shooter game.

i dont remember coduit 1 being that great of a game, so of course some peope might not be excited for the sequel.

goldeneye was a legendary game (back in its time) and seeing it come back is great, even though it wont be an exact remake. making goldeneye similar to cod is good, cod was a solid shooter, and if goldeneye was similar to it then im gessing it will be a great shooter too.

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#28 almossbb
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] Will you stop attacking the Zelda fanbase already?wiifan001
uuh... no? it's fun :P plus it's not like i'm being dead serious here, or pointing directly at someone. and you have to admit it. they complained wind waker and majora's mask were different (even if in the case of wind waker it was only graphically and the sea theme), asked for more of OoT, then proceeded to complain about TP because it was more of OoT and are now asking for something different.

The complaint about Majora's Mask is that it wasn't as good Ocarina of Time, and the whole time frame wasn't admired by many Windwaker was solely the art style and the traveling by boat. Twilight Princess, and you'll probably disagree, was the Ocarina of Time nostalgia, that in comparison Twilight Princess failed harder than anything Zelda has ever had going for. It tried to be the next Ocarina of Time, but was completely crushed to nearly every extent, if not all extent, and thus we have TP, which somehow is still an excellent game of its own right. Lastly in Skyward Sword, people are complaining right now because they're worried. At its core, it's Zelda with Motion Plus and that's really all that's known right now. All the things I mentioned earlier about Majora's Mask and windwaker were immediately shown when they had their first footage. But as for Skyward Sword, at its core we really don't know anything.

exactly, well put wiifan.

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#29 King-gamer
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A better question would be, why are people excited about either game?
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#30 Tri-Enforcer
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A better question would be, why are people excited about either game?King-gamer

Because some people enjoy Wii FPS games.

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The Conduit is being made by a dev that is going on 18 years without a good game

The Goldeneye devs are not High Voltage

I don't see why anyone would look forward for the Conduit since the first one was so bad and it comes from a bad developer

You might as well ask why people are looking forward to Black Ops and not the new Data Design game

Jaysonguy

I can't believe I'm agreeing with Jaysonguy but that is my reasoning High Voltage can't make a good game if their life depended on it.

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#32 ekalbtwin
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Golden Eye has the 'awe that games was the greatest thing ever back when I could not drive!' feel to it. The Conduit has the 'It was an ok game but I could only get a few levels into it before I only played it on line and even then it was not all that great' feel to it.
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#33 whosgotthe311
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Nostalgia.

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The original Goldeneye was amazing

The original Conduit was NOT amazing

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#35 19061980
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007 is unique and interesting. Conduit 2 (as was The Conduit) is the very definition of generic.

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#36 gamefan67
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As Gabu stated, I like CoD and I liked the original Goldeneye. Goldeneye Wii is an update of the original bringing it into modern gaming standards. There will be stealth elements, (supposed) multiple ways to tackle a mission, different missions based on difficulty (a la the 64 version), I believe Melee mode is still in, and the game just looks fun to me. The original Conduit was nothing special, it was an enjoyable game to an extent, but its flaws really held it back. I'm not too confident in HVS as a developer, so adding all these modes and customization and voice chat support mean nothing if the game itself plays bad.
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#37 unrealtron
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because james bond can fly

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#38 Litchie
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Because Goldeneye is a lot more likely to not suck. Tell me one good game High Voltage Software (the makers of The Turdoit) have made. Please, do tell.

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Nostalgia and the expectation of quality.

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From what I've heard, the original Conduit didn't do so well. Plus, people just love Goldeneye, even if it isn't made by Rare.
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#41 louisfoxton
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The conduit wasnt bad as what ppl say, its a good game ppl just hate on it

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simply put, the first the conduit didn't deliver for most people. on the other hand, the original goldeneye 007 was praised as one of the best FPSs of its time, and one of the first successful console FPSs (yes, they existed before halo)BrunoBRS
this explains it

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#43 SupahShnipa
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Greg Hastings Paintball 2 Will be better than Conduit 2

http://www.majescoentertainment.com/games/nintendo-wii/greg-hastings-paintball-2/

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[QUOTE="King-gamer"]A better question would be, why are people excited about either game?Tri-Enforcer

Because some people enjoy Wii FPS games.

Yeah, but GoldenEye looks like crap, and the Conduit 2, well, after the first one, I don't think anyone should be excited over this. They should be more excited about other better FPS, like Red Steel 2. That game seriously needs more support, more than these two.
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I'm curious to see Conduit 2. I don't expect it to be the pinnacle of FPS (but what can you expect on the Wii?), but The Conduit wasn't that bad as people made it out to be, and I could already see the potential in that game. Taking a look at Conduit 2's features, it seems to become a considerable improvement.

Goldeneye Wii could be interesting, but I fear it will just be another lackluster CoD clone, and I don't even like CoD to begin with.

The original Goldeneye was amazing

The original Conduit was NOT amazing

Sword-Demon

Goldeneye Wii is a new game made by people who had absolutely nothing to do with the first game. Its developers, Eurocom, have released 3 Bond games already, the last of which (Quantum of Solace) scored 54/100 on average on the Wii. If anything, that is the game we should be going by, not the original Goldeneye game which was made by infinitely more talented developers 13 years ago.

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#46 Tri-Enforcer
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I'm curious to see Conduit 2. I don't expect it to be the pinnacle of FPS (but what can you expect on the Wii?), but The Conduit wasn't that bad as people made it out to be, and I could already see the potential in that game. Taking a look at Conduit 2's features, it seems to become a considerable improvement.

Goldeneye Wii could be interesting, but I fear it will just be another lackluster CoD clone, and I don't even like CoD to begin with.

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

Goldeneye Wii is a new game made by people who had absolutely nothing to do with the first game. Its developers, Eurocom, have released 3 Bond games already, the last of which (Quantum of Solace) scored 54/100 on average on the Wii. If anything, that is the game we should be going by, not the original Goldeneye game which was made by infinitely more talented developers 13 years ago.

DraugenCP

I'm curious to see Conduit 2. I don't expect it to be the pinnacle of FPS (but what can you expect on the Wii?), but The Conduit wasn't that bad as people made it out to be, and I could already see the potential in that game. Taking a look at Conduit 2's features, it seems to become a considerable improvement.

Goldeneye Wii could be interesting, but I fear it will just be another lackluster CoD clone, and I don't even like CoD to begin with.

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

The original Goldeneye was amazing

The original Conduit was NOT amazing

DraugenCP

Goldeneye Wii is a new game made by people who had absolutely nothing to do with the first game. Its developers, Eurocom, have released 3 Bond games already, the last of which (Quantum of Solace) scored 54/100 on average on the Wii. If anything, that is the game we should be going by, not the original Goldeneye game which was made by infinitely more talented developers 13 years ago.

This post makes the most sense, considering people want to go by developer reputation. I could see if the more experienced Rare were behind this Goldeneye remake, but they're not (technically they couldn't either since most of the people behind Goldeneye 64 left Rare). It's made by Eurocom who have a track record just as bad as HVS and have been around longer. Also, Goldeneye Wii is mostly a cash in title to get people, who played the original, to believe they will have the same feeling from the original. Trust me you wont. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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#47 Cruse34
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] Will you stop attacking the Zelda fanbase already?wiifan001
uuh... no? it's fun :P plus it's not like i'm being dead serious here, or pointing directly at someone. and you have to admit it. they complained wind waker and majora's mask were different (even if in the case of wind waker it was only graphically and the sea theme), asked for more of OoT, then proceeded to complain about TP because it was more of OoT and are now asking for something different.

The complaint about Majora's Mask is that it wasn't as good Ocarina of Time, and the whole time frame wasn't admired by many Windwaker was solely the art style and the traveling by boat. Twilight Princess, and you'll probably disagree, was the Ocarina of Time nostalgia, that in comparison Twilight Princess failed harder than anything Zelda has ever had going for. It tried to be the next Ocarina of Time, but was completely crushed to nearly every extent, if not all extent, and thus we have TP, which somehow is still an excellent game of its own right. Lastly in Skyward Sword, people are complaining right now because they're worried. At its core, it's Zelda with Motion Plus and that's really all that's known right now. All the things I mentioned earlier about Majora's Mask and windwaker were immediately shown when they had their first footage. But as for Skyward Sword, at its core we really don't know anything.

By todays standards TP does everything that OoT did but better it is the better game. All 4 of the 3d console zelda games have been masterpieces

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#48 Metal_Mario99
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"Quantum of Solace" was a multi-platform marketing tie-in. Those always suck. A Wii-exclusive "Goldeneye" is likely to have a bit more effort put into it.

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#49 LegatoSkyheart
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Because people hate High Voltage. Even though they're actually putting out more effort than ever before with Conduit 2.

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#50 gamefan67
Member since 2004 • 10034 Posts

I'm curious to see Conduit 2. I don't expect it to be the pinnacle of FPS (but what can you expect on the Wii?), but The Conduit wasn't that bad as people made it out to be, and I could already see the potential in that game. Taking a look at Conduit 2's features, it seems to become a considerable improvement.

Goldeneye Wii could be interesting, but I fear it will just be another lackluster CoD clone, and I don't even like CoD to begin with.

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

The original Goldeneye was amazing

The original Conduit was NOT amazing

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Goldeneye Wii is a new game made by people who had absolutely nothing to do with the first game. Its developers, Eurocom, have released 3 Bond games already, the last of which (Quantum of Solace) scored 54/100 on average on the Wii. If anything, that is the game we should be going by, not the original Goldeneye game which was made by infinitely more talented developers 13 years ago.

Just to clear some things up for you. Eurocom made the PLAYSTATION 2 version of Quantum of Solace, which also happens to be the highest scoring version, while Beenox made the the Wii version, so I dont know how you can blame Eurocom for that, and looking at Eurocom's Track record they have made some really good bond games and some really good games outside of licensed products (something that HVS still cant do). Sphinx and the cursed Mummy> Everything HVS has ever made.