Why Do You Need Blood, Violence, Sex, And Cursing In Your Wii Games?

Yeah, you read it right.

Lately, a number of Wii owners on these boards are crying "me too" when it comes to the content seen in "other" console's games. Some of you give off the impression that if a game is missing those elements (Blood, shooting, violence, sex, swearing, etc), if the game doesn't have an "M" rating, it's a waste of your time and money.

But I ask you, why? Why does content matter so much to you?

I mean, we're all just playing games here. No matter how "mature" you may think you are by playing them, they're still "games" (ie, what children play).

At this point, I can't figure it out. I have some theories, but I figure that maybe if I ask the people here who hold that mindset, they'll be able to fill me (and many others) in and finally reveal this mystery.

So again, why are these things so important to you?

But I ask you, why? Why does content matter so much to you?

bob_newman

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

But I ask you, why? Why does content matter so much to you?

FFCYAN

Its not about them being important, its the fact that they are lacking on the wii for anyone who wants them. Some people prefer to play games with realistic graphics and more mature themes and content, its called taste. If they want a game with mature concepts and themes on the wii, why should they not ask for them? Does your annoyance overide there want for things that by all accounts, will improve the wii's library and give it even more diversity? Running around with annimated characters jumping on there heads to reveal stars and such is fine but some people want a balance and that balance isn't shown on the wii. Its not that the other consoles get this content, its that its sorely lacking on the wii when it comes to mature content and it should be there for anyone who wants it.

None of these things matter to me and i own one of the "other" consoles. Though i do like violent games but i do not need violence in my games for them to be fun. Also i really don't mind cussing as long as it fits in with the game like The Darkness there was a LOT of cussing but it fit the setting and story. As for sex i really don't need it in a game but i have played a game this gen that featured it but it really wasn't that big of a deal nor was it a big part of the game i just found it funny personally.

It's not "mature" or "cool" to drink a beer but as an adult you want to do it every now and then...

Because some people are never satisfied:roll:

I really don't pay much attention to M games (except NMH and MadWorld). As long as the game is good, I don't care how much blood is in there.

the genre selection and gaming tastes for wii software is too unbalanced. i enjoy games like smg but i also enjoy games like nmh. why shouldnt we have these games? we should all be happy with just wii fit, music and wii play right?:|

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[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

But I ask you, why? Why does content matter so much to you?

Pyro767

On a serious note, I agree with Bob to an extent. I don't really care how the game is presented as long as the core aspect of the game is fun and interesting. There's no need for all the *****ing. I wish there were a fewmore mature games just to shut up the complainers though.

I've never really been one to judge a game based on its rating. I own my fair share of M games, but its mostly due to circumstances outside of its content. I got MadWorld because Clover/Platinum is one of my favorite developers, Mass Effect because of BioWare's excellent story telling, Riddick and The Darkness due to Starbreeze's excellent way of handling gameplay and story. Orange Box ..... well, there are about 800 reasons why anyone should get that, but I've made my point clear.

I don't think any game should have extreme content just because it can, and the games that do that I often stray away from. If a game has an M rating and I plan on getting it, there's more often than not a real reason for it to be as such, often because of the story it tells or the way it tells it.

All that said, I own more E and T games than anything else, and I'm 20. I also plan on playing the crap out of Klonoa in the following weeks. Which is about as non-violent as platformers get.

It's the Id man, it's the Id. I can do without the cursing and sexual content, but when I buy a game about butchering my sworn enemies, I want blood flowing in the streets. So maybe I want blood because it's not legal to slaughter my enemies in real life. Just being honest.

Its not about them being important, its the fact that they are lacking on the wii for anyone who wants them.

ActicEdge

My question was for the people who act like they NEED it. There are a number of them here.

It's not "mature" or "cool" to drink a beer but as an adult you want to do it every now and then...

Stephleref

They probably just have urges to play different genres. Sometimes i am in the mood to sit back and play all of my RPGs and other times i have no patience whatsoever with them and they bore me. I guess a lot of people are waiting for a violent game or they have played all of their violent games so much they are bored and want more? I guess they want their library of Wii games to be more diverse for what mood they are in.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not about them being important, its the fact that they are lacking on the wii for anyone who wants them.

bob_newman

My question was for the people who act like they NEED it. There are a number of them here.

Who cares if they act like they need it. The point is they want it. As long as they want it they can ask for it. Why does there desire to play mature only games matter. Its a taste thing. I know people like that, its not a big deal.

So again, why are these things so important to you?

bob_newman

Just talking for myself if I do not have sex, violence, blood, and cursing in my games I feel like a child

If my main hobby does not have things that only an adult can do then I might as well be playing with blocks

My self esteem is such that I don't know if I'm really an adult. When I go look on my shelf if I have too many "E" rated games I feel like a baby, but when I see so many game cases with "M" on them then I know I'm a real man.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not about them being important, its the fact that they are lacking on the wii for anyone who wants them.

ActicEdge

My question was for the people who act like they NEED it. There are a number of them here.

Who cares if they act like they need it. The point is they want it. As long as they want it they can ask for it. Why does there desire to play mature only games matter. Its a taste thing. I know people like that, its not a big deal.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

My question was for the people who act like they NEED it. There are a number of them here.

bob_newman

Who cares if they act like they need it. The point is they want it. As long as they want it they can ask for it. Why does there desire to play mature only games matter. Its a taste thing. I know people like that, its not a big deal.

But that's like asking why my favourite colour is blue or I love platformers. It doesn't really matter the why because its there taste. There taste is to play mature games end of story. My question is why do you care and why should they explain there tastes to you?

Obviously not. I mean, if you want games with all that stuff, you just ostracized yourself from 80% games on the market.SMR-Venom

this is exactly why, i had the same attitude as TC when i had only a wii, while I STILL LOVE the wii and the origanal games it gets,i was absolutley tired of nintendos shift to soccer mom and casual gaming. i was tired of wii music/sports/play/fit/ect and cartooney games.

i needed some mature content so i made the jump to 360 and that got my fill.

though im happy now wii is finally getting mature content with no more heroes, deadly creatures,madwordld, conduit, HOTD, REDC, dead space and others.

The problem isn't that some people want it. It's that some people equate these things with quality, even though it's often the opposite with mature content being used as a crutch for a bad game.

I say it makes you feel more powerful- makes the game more pleasurable. An enemy just falling over and dying is one thing, but nothing says MAJOR PWNAGE!!! like the enemy's blood and maybe a few body parts flying all over the place when you strike them down. It makes you feel less like you just defeated an enemy and more like you annihilated them.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not about them being important, its the fact that they are lacking on the wii for anyone who wants them.

bob_newman

My question was for the people who act like they NEED it. There are a number of them here.

I like blood and violence in my games.

I don't care too much about the sex and cursing as long as it has some form of purpose other than just being there because the developers wanted them there.

The most recent example is of people complaining about Red Steel 2. I've seen some people saying that there is no blood and being 'upset' by it. Its blood. It also doesn't fit the games art direction. I mean its just a visual aspect of a game. And if people want mature content, there is already mature content available on the console and there is more coming.Haziqonfire

But the lack of blood in that red steel 2 trailer was stupid. Not from a like stand point since I really don't care about that but when he shoots the guy off the building I couldn't even tell there was impact. A little (not fountains or anything) blood would alleviate this problem. It helps give the player a visual clue impact was made.

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not about them being important, its the fact that they are lacking on the wii for anyone who wants them.

clicketyclick

My question was for the people who act like they NEED it. There are a number of them here.

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

So again, why are these things so important to you?

Jaysonguy

Just talking for myself if I do not have sex, violence, blood, and cursing in my games I feel like a child

If my main hobby does not have things that only an adult can do then I might as well be playing with blocks

My self esteem is such that I don't know if I'm really an adult. When I go look on my shelf if I have too many "E" rated games I feel like a baby, but when I see so many game cases with "M" on them then I know I'm a real man.

You can do better than that, Click. That does not apply whatsoever. Of course people are going to say "I buy any game that looks good" because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If all you like is blood, violence, etc, you're going to believe that you only buy games that look good. Why? Because, to them, it looks good.bob_newman

Alright, we'll sit and wait for "them".

*twiddles thumbs*

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*tumbleweed blows*

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="bob_newman"]

My question was for the people who act like they NEED it. There are a number of them here.

bob_newman

What exactly do you want? Do you want them to explain there tastes to you? All I really am getting is you're annoyed people just want tons of violence and I say let them ask for it then. Why must they explain themselves?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The most recent example is of people complaining about Red Steel 2. I've seen some people saying that there is no blood and being 'upset' by it. Its blood. It also doesn't fit the games art direction. I mean its just a visual aspect of a game. And if people want mature content, there is already mature content available on the console and there is more coming.ActicEdge

But the lack of blood in that red steel 2 trailer was stupid. Not from a like stand point since I really don't care about that but when he shoots the guy off the building I couldn't even tell there was impact. A little (not fountains or anything) blood would alleviate this problem. It helps give the player a visual clue impact was made.

The most recent example is of people complaining about Red Steel 2. I've seen some people saying that there is no blood and being 'upset' by it. Its blood. It also doesn't fit the games art direction. I mean its just a visual aspect of a game. And if people want mature content, there is already mature content available on the console and there is more coming.Haziqonfire

its redsteel REDsteel REDsteel! why even bother naming it that if there is no blood what so ever? how the hell do you expect me take to think thatI slice a guy with a friggen katana ans shot him with a magnum and not even a tiny little droplet of blood comes out?

withought the blood it feels as if im doing no damage. whats the point?

Alright, we'll sit and wait for "them".

*twiddles thumbs*

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*whistles*

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*scratches back*

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*tumbleweed blows*

clicketyclick

We already have some.

I like blood and violence in my games.

I don't care too much about the sex and cursing as long as it has some form of purpose other than just being there because the developers wanted them there.

snover2009

It's the Id man, it's the Id. I can do without the cursing and sexual content, but when I buy a game about butchering my sworn enemies, I want blood flowing in the streets. So maybe I want blood because it's not legal to slaughter my enemies in real life. Just being honest.

gamecubepad

...so there's that.

@TC A bit of a generalization, but I agree with you at the heart of it.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The most recent example is of people complaining about Red Steel 2. I've seen some people saying that there is no blood and being 'upset' by it. Its blood. It also doesn't fit the games art direction. I mean its just a visual aspect of a game. And if people want mature content, there is already mature content available on the console and there is more coming.Haziqonfire

But the lack of blood in that red steel 2 trailer was stupid. Not from a like stand point since I really don't care about that but when he shoots the guy off the building I couldn't even tell there was impact. A little (not fountains or anything) blood would alleviate this problem. It helps give the player a visual clue impact was made.

I understand what you mean and I'll wait on RS2 but I'm just saying the complaining about lack of blood may not be due to being blood thirsty. If Ubi finds some way to make it so I can tell when there is impact I won't care aboutblood or not. We'll see though, I assume calling it red steel probably wasn't ubisofts best idea :P

We already have some.

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

I like blood and violence in my games.

I don't care too much about the sex and cursing as long as it has some form of purpose other than just being there because the developers wanted them there.

bob_newman

It's the Id man, it's the Id. I can do without the cursing and sexual content, but when I buy a game about butchering my sworn enemies, I want blood flowing in the streets. So maybe I want blood because it's not legal to slaughter my enemies in real life. Just being honest.

gamecubepad

...so there's that.

Ther is nothing wrong with snover2009's response, he enjoys blood and violence, so what? I enjoy vibrant games and puzzles, what's the big deal. gamecubepad well...................................................................I can't really defend that. :P

Coming from a guy who grew up with Nintendo consoles, I don't need them. Heck, I was playing Super Mario Galaxy for 6+ hours today.

Some games, usually ones on the more realistic side of things, are alright with blood and cursing. Although, I could do without sex in a video game.

Ther is nothing wrong with snover2009's response, he enjoys blood and violence, so what?

ActicEdge

There's nothing wrong with asking a genuine question, so I don't see what I'm doing wrong here.

If you don't like the question (I can't see why people wouldn't like questions), then don't answer it.

ArcticEdge has a point tho, why do they need to explain to you why they like what they like? ...it sounds like you don't like Blood, Violence, Sex, And Cursing in Wii game so you're never gonna agree with ppl who likes them. It will prolly end up being a mud slinging match.

Wii is suppose to appeal to everyone/family right? ..then why not teen/young adults/adults also who likes the above? or they don't count as in family?

ArcticEdge has a point tho, why do they need to explain to you why they like what they like? ...it sounds like you don't like Blood, Violence, Sex, And Cursing in Wii game so you're never gonna agree with ppl who likes them. It will prolly end up being a mud slinging match.

Wii is suppose to appeal to everyone/family right? ..then why not teen/young adults/adults also who likes the above? or they don't count as in family?

maxgil2

[QUOTE="maxgil2"]

ArcticEdge has a point tho, why do they need to explain to you why they like what they like? ...it sounds like you don't like Blood, Violence, Sex, And Cursing in Wii game so you're never gonna agree with ppl who likes them. It will prolly end up being a mud slinging match.

Wii is suppose to appeal to everyone/family right? ..then why not teen/young adults/adults also who likes the above? or they don't count as in family?

-snorlax-

ArcticEdge has a point tho, why do they need to explain to you why they like what they like? ...it sounds like you don't like Blood, Violence, Sex, And Cursing in Wii game so you're never gonna agree with ppl who likes them. It will prolly end up being a mud slinging match.

Wii is suppose to appeal to everyone/family right? ..then why not teen/young adults/adults also who likes the above? or they don't count as in family?

maxgil2

[QUOTE="maxgil2"] Its not about that - as if people NEED violence in order to enjoy a game. Its as if without it a game is not enjoyable - and as you and I know, most people on sites like these try to put off what they say as fact. I understand if people like them - I just don't get people that seem to need them in absolutely every game they play in order to enjoy them. There is a difference.Haziqonfire

Err, what forums have you seen this in? I have only seen about two people complaining about no blood on RS2, and one was an obvious troll:P

...its about the fact that it seems...Haziqonfire

Perception is not fact.

...most people on sites like these try to put off what they say as fact...Haziqonfire

Oh my! The irony!

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]...most people on sites like these try to put off what they say as fact...TaMuK711

Oh my! The irony!

[QUOTE="TaMuK711"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]...most people on sites like these try to put off what they say as fact...Haziqonfire

Oh my! The irony!

Right.....