Why is Wii getting so many medicore games?

Is this pissing you off to? Even games from Nintendo are not good as we wish. Discuss

yes, but look what are they did to Resident Evil series, Fire Emblem, Metroid with reinvented control scheme. Instead develop something new they are trying to sell us the same games with new price...

There is Fire Embelm game for based on Path of Radiance (which isn't a bad thing) but it doesn't use wiimote. I could be released on GC instead on Wii which is 2 or 3 times powerful and have motion control

There is Fire Embelm game for based on Path of Radiance (which isn't a bad thing) but it doesn't use wiimote. I could be released on GC instead on Wii which is 2 or 3 times powerful and have motion control

big_bad_monkey

It's true that the graphics could be better on the Radiant Dawn, but the Wii Remote would only have a use in menus since everything else is automatic. It's still Fire Emblem. Plus, the game came out by the time the Gamecube was done with and the Wii had come out. So, there was no chance of it being on the Gamecube.

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There is Fire Embelm game for based on Path of Radiance (which isn't a bad thing) but it doesn't use wiimote. I could be released on GC instead on Wii which is 2 or 3 times powerful and have motion control

Wolblade

It's true that the graphics could be better on the Radiant Dawn, but the Wii Remote would only have a use in menus since everything else is automatic. It's still Fire Emblem. Plus, the game came out by the time the Gamecube was done with and the Wii had come out. So, there was no chance of it being on the Gamecube.

Of course your are right with releasing it on GC. I was only trying to show that these games are almost the same. Wiimote could be also used to control characters on battlefield

EDIT: DS is innovative as Wii, but DS is getting more good games. I simply don't understand it

Doyou own a wii? Because according to your game list all you support is xbox and x360

Doyou own a wii? Because according to your game list all you support is xbox and x360

boardn720

I had 2x NGC (black and pearl white) and i love metroid. I'm considering to buy a Wii (or GC again...)

EDIT: DS is innovative as Wii, but DS is getting more good games. I simply don't understand it

big_bad_monkey

DS has been out longer. Not rocket science.

And you're really complaining that Fire Emblem for Wii and GC are similar? You were actually expecting a turn-based strategy RPG to benefit from motion control?

I like the wii but the game options are still pretty slim. The future does look promising. One thing to remember is all of the GC games can be played in the wii. :) And alot of the older games are available for download in the shop channel.

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EDIT: DS is innovative as Wii, but DS is getting more good games. I simply don't understand it

Erebyssial

DS has been out longer. Not rocket science.

And you're really complaining that Fire Emblem for Wii and GC are similar? You were actually expecting a turn-based strategy RPG to benefit from motion control?

Maybe your right, I hope that Wii will get more great games in time

I dunno, I bought 4 pretty good games the latter half of last year (Mario Kart, Okami, Tales of Symphonia 2 and Animal Crossing) and three other good ones a couple weeks ago (Madworld, Rune Factory and Pikmin NPC), and there's a lot more coming out later this year that I want (Muramasa, Conduit, Little King's Story, Monster Hunter, Arc Rise) and a few more that I never got around to getting (Zack & Wiki, Batallion Wars 2, Excitebots recently).

Obviously there's a bunch of garbage that gets released for Wii but that doesn't mean I have to buy it; so no, I don't care if Wii gets mediocre games as long as it gets good ones too, which I think it has been getting.

Because lazy developers put junk out there to make easy $$$. Low development costs, large user base:-/

If your looking into getting a Wii I'd say go for it if you have a money, Wii60 is a great combo. With the exception of a few, Nintendo's first party titles are still really good, and third party support seems to be getting a lot better as of late.

Because lazy developers put junk out there to make easy $$$. Low development costs, large user base:-/

If your looking into getting a Wii I'd say go for it if you have a money, Wii60 is a great combo. With the exception of a few, Nintendo's first party titles are still really good, and third party support seems to be getting a lot better as of late.

TaMuK711

It would be wise to look at the 2009 and beyond sticky^. There are so many good games coming out in the now, I don't see a problem with the Wii's library.

It all really depends on your preference. To me, most AAA games for the PS3/360 are mediocre to me. There are only so many FPS's I would want to play and their games just are not as unique and diversified.

The only true way to love the Wii is to want to play outside the box (the norm). Non-traditional games in other words.

the games are getting progressively better, but it will be a while befor we have a gem on our hands.

Ok, you're saying that the Wii has mediocre games, but you don't have a Wii so you don't really know what it has to offer...

yes, but look what are they did to Resident Evil series, Fire Emblem, Metroid with reinvented control scheme.

big_bad_monkey

Metroid Prime 3 was one of the best games I ever played man, nothing negative about that.

What they did to Resident Evil is inexcusable, just because the controler has an IR pointer in it doesn't mean that people want those out of date on-rails shooters.

Ok, you're saying that the Wii has mediocre games, but you don't have a Wii so you don't really know what it has to offer...

bob_newman

I'm glad someone else sees the irony.

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Because lazy developers put junk out there to make easy $$$. Low development costs, large user base:-/

If your looking into getting a Wii I'd say go for it if you have a money, Wii60 is a great combo. With the exception of a few, Nintendo's first party titles are still really good, and third party support seems to be getting a lot better as of late.

intro94

I never said it doesnt have good games? Read my post. I answered his question as to why there are a lot of mediocre games, and went on to complement Nintendos third part and recent third party games? Quote the wrong person or??

One word: Ubisoft

...with the exception of No More Heroes.

Because it's the number one console in the world, and therefore all the shovelware get's sent to the Wii, where there's a better chance it will sell.

Oh, and I think that the Wii has been getting some pretty amazing games lately. Don't know where you've been.

ppl we know this year wii is getting a few good titles. we also cant deny the amount of shovelware it gets in comparison. it also doesnt help when thoses quality games are being outsold by games like wii fit or babiez. ever since launch 3rd parties crapped on the wii with mediocre efforts and despite sales, they still have the same attitude. mad world hotd overkill didnt save the wii and at this point it could be bleak for the wii considering their signinfcant drop in sales from japan. casual gamers are a lucrative market but it doesnt have staying power which is a something ninty is gong ot learn the hardway.

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Ok, you're saying that the Wii has mediocre games, but you don't have a Wii so you don't really know what it has to offer...

DDRMom

I'm glad someone else sees the irony.

I'm looking at gamespot and gamerankings rating. I played and enjoyed Wii games (Metroid, Wii Sports), but i don't have oportunity to check other games. In my country Wii and Wii games are expensive and some times unavailable.

Here is my answer to your question OP:

The Wii has and is continuing to release mediocre games because this is the consequence Nintendo is facing for not upgrading to more powerful hardware. I am happy that Nintendo has made a move and tried to stay alive by bringing something innovative to the Wii, yes it has outsold the the PS3 and 360 and is continuing to grow in sales, but all the glory comes to a costly price in the long run.

Many here in this board cry about why is Wii not getting GTA4 or getting RE5 or Dead Space, its really simple... Developers don't want to take the time and start from scratch again building games that work far more superior to the PS3 and 360. This in result brings many great titles out of the Wii's reach, this is a sad reality and its holding the Wii back from possibly making even bigger sales.

If the Wii had better hardware in par to the other systems, Nintendo may have all the multiplatform games that both the PS3 and 360 have, then the Wii's image of only being a "console for casual gamers" would probably not be considered that way. That is why many gamers have both a Wii and PS3, or both a Wii and 360, and some have all three consoles.

Nintendo has done a great job trying to bring out something unique this gen, but suffer at the same time not being able to obtain great titles that are only on the PS3 and 360. I just hope that this sacrifice does not taint them on their next system.

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Ok, you're saying that the Wii has mediocre games, but you don't have a Wii so you don't really know what it has to offer...

big_bad_monkey

I'm glad someone else sees the irony.

I'm looking at gamespot and gamerankings rating. I played and enjoyed Wii games (Metroid, Wii Sports), but i don't have oportunity to check other games. In my country Wii and Wii games are expensive and some times unavailable.

I need to buy like..what...10 games..And guess what,they're already released...Let's not even start with the ones that are not released yet.
Look past the shovelware and see what the Wii really has to offer.

One word: Ubisoft

...with the exception of No More Heroes.

Brawl578

There are a few problems: 1) Unhealthy Sales: Even when a title is very good on a Ninty platform, it's more likely to do poorly than well, and the best that can be hoped for is doing okay. Only low-budget games can afford this risk-reward setup, because large-budget games won't break even in this model, and because of the state of the economy and the need for immediate payoff for many developers and publishers to stay afloat. Developers are closing their doors, EA is posting a billion dollar loss, Eidos has been desperately seeking someone to buy them because they're going bankrupt... So because low-budget games are the ones that best fit the model, we see a lot of rail shooters, mini-game collections, and games that have been rushed through development and aren't polished. 2) Motion Gimmick: The Wii was marketed as being able to duplicate your motions, but when it came out, everyone quickly realised that the motion controls aren't nearly as exact as advertised. The Wii then came to be seen as being built around a gimmick, and that's what the wiimote's motion-sensing is reduced to when it isn't 1:1. So you get gimmicky games. If the Wii had originally come with the Motion+'s capabilities, we wouldn't see nearly as many mediocre games and shovelware. 3) Nintendo's Example: Third party devs have been looking at the Wii and noticing that Ninty is nearly the only one that seems to be truly profiting from the Wii's success; very few 3rd party games do as well as 1st party titles, and it's not for a lack of effort. Many of Ninty's successful games are not that good or new but are selling because of a peripheral. Ninty has been rereleasing old games in new packaging... and they sell. Third party devs, desperate to emulate Ninty's success, have understandably been emulating Ninty's business model, and they are rereleasing old games in new packaging too.clicketyclick

1. EA is a multi-platform company and what titles they do release for the Wii have had some success. Eidos does not make many Wii games.
2. I don't buy that. WiiSports quality and accessibility contradicts your assertion that M+ is necessary for non-"gimmicky" gameplay.
3. Wii Fit usaully is labeled as "not good" despite sales and abovesolid ratings from critics:

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/wiifit/index.html?tag=result;title;

Mario Kart Wii really didn't get extra points for having a wheel and I doubt people bought a copy because of a plastic wheel. Other high selling games like SSBB, TP and SMG are clearly quality titles and have sold in the millions.

Wha?!

1. EA is a multi-platform company and what titles they do release for the Wii have had some success. Eidos does not make many Wii games.
2. I don't buy that. WiiSports quality and accessibility contradicts your assertion that M+ is necessary for non-"gimmicky" gameplay.
3. Wii Fit usaully is labeled as "not good" despite sales and abovesolid ratings from critics:

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/wiifit/index.html?tag=result;title;

Mario Kart Wii really didn't get extra points for having a wheel and I doubt people bought a copy because of a plastic wheel. Other high selling games like SSBB, TP and SMG are clearly quality titles and have sold in the millions.

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