Wii graphics come on!!!

The Wii wasnt made with great graphics in mind, and i dont really care that much I love the Wii anyway.DEWMAN08

Pretty much what this guy said:P

It seems like people are getting really worked up over this subject......I like games that have nice graphics AND great gameplay, but I'll take lesser graphics for better gameplay. Like others have said, great ideas are what we want, and Nintendo delivers in that area.Toffeecake

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There is also a lot more to graphics than gaming...

Quit saying graphics aren't important. Games like GTA: Vice City wouldn't have ruled this much if they had Pacman graphics.

DarthFedor

you got that right :) !

I really don't care much for graphics. When i see good graphics, all I say is "oooooooh, that looks nice!" The graphics is not what interest me in games, its the fun that I can get out of it. Its all about gameplay for me. Graphics can't keep me playing, only the amount of fun the game is giving me.ilikemilk007

Cmon n00bs get over graphics.. May i remind you Wii is for GameplayArkansasBoy91

You know how SICK AND TIRED I am of hearing that TRENDY little "gameplay over graphics" one liner?  Noobs?  Sorry kid, but a lot of us have probably been playin games far longer than you have.  We're called veterans, and the veterans know what makes a good game.  Great graphics and great gameplay.  If Nintendo didn't care about graphics then the Wii would have been packaged with an NES graphics setup with the motion sensing control.  But that's not what happened.  The Wii came equipped with more graphical horsepower than either the Gamecube or XBox.  So when games are being released that are obviosly rush jobs with poor graphics we have a right to complain about it.  Let's be honest too.  Some of the Wii games have bad graphics and bad utilization of the motion controls.  So it goes both ways on this system.  We have the right to complain about mediocre games.  GRAPHICS DO MATTER!!

Eh are you developers serious!! whats with the graphics for the Wii lately?. I just saw the new screens for the game 'surf's up' and it looks awful!!. Developers are getting lazy and should put all their effort into getting the most out of the Wii's graphic capabilities!. The nintendo Wii has better graphics power than the original xbox so start showing it!.

I dont care if developers delay games on the Wii as long as they are improving that game to the best it can be!....no more rushed games!. It has to be said that Nintendo are the best developers for their own system cus games like Mario galaxy,SMBB,Metro Prime....they all look great at the moment but its the likes of ubisoft,EA,THQ that are making half arsed games and im sick of it!. Its just dragging the nintendo wii's name in the mud by having these lame ass graphics when we all know that the Wii is far more capable!. Anyone agree?

Evilsmiler

thats the whole thing. Nintendo needs to support their Product to show the devs what the games can be all aboutjonzilla_basic

Do you have any evidence that Nintendo isn't doing that?  I don't see how it would benefit Nintendo to purposely keep information from developers that would help them make better games.

OK, I know that a lot of the games we see right now do look like bad PS2 games. And that's not cool. But on the other hand, I also think some people here are expecting too much from the Wii. The Wii competes with the Xbox in terms of power, but on top of that, it also has to handle the calculations from the remote and nunchuk which are almost certainly more CPU-intensive than any dual-analog controller is. So, in the end, we probably aren't going to see anything from the Wii that we didn't see last gen. And I doubt that GC-quality graphics will ever go away because the Wii just isn't that powerful. Even the best Wii has to offer - Mario Galaxy, SSBB, MP3 - honestly wouldn't look out of place on the same console that produced Rogue Leader and RE4.

To touch on the opinion to "delay a game and make better graphics", every development group has their own budget constraints, some have large amounts and many have small amounts. You cannot produce ANY game in due time if the developers are made up of lazy people. It does make common sense to delay a game in order to make it better, but in reality, no one has that luxuary  once you got deadlines to meet or running out of funds, game development is very expensive.

Good gfx is not an absolute must but it is a big plus to a game. If good gfx and special effects are needed to enchance a game, i.e. Prey, then thats when gfx really matter. A good looking game with flaws will not do as hot as a not-so good looking game with addictive gameplay. If a game sells like hotcakes, it will create a bigger budget for the next game, from there, they can worry about gfx.

I agree, other game developers should maybe see how nintendo makes these graphics great and start to make better graphics for the of the wii itself and people can take average graphics but the graphics their making now, some of the games graphics are worse than gamecubes. I think one of the reasons is that the developers don't know how to make good graphics with a the wii because they haven't got to know the console and its cababilities. thats why nintendo does therir graphics good because they know what the wii can do and can't do.

This is to ever created the topic- I.......HATE.....YOUDTbikerider9

 Ha!....you dont know how much i get that on the Wii forum 8) its a good thread anywayz as people are making alot of good points so i suggest you do the same dude.

There is also a lot more to graphics than gaming...

Quit saying graphics aren't important. Games like GTA: Vice City wouldn't have ruled this much if they had Pacman graphics.

DarthFedor

[QUOTE="Evilsmiler"]

Eh are you developers serious!! whats with the graphics for the Wii lately?. I just saw the new screens for the game 'surf's up' and it looks awful!!. Developers are getting lazy and should put all their effort into getting the most out of the Wii's graphic capabilities!. The nintendo Wii has better graphics power than the original xbox so start showing it!.

I dont care if developers delay games on the Wii as long as they are improving that game to the best it can be!....no more rushed games!. It has to be said that Nintendo are the best developers for their own system cus games like Mario galaxy,SMBB,Metro Prime....they all look great at the moment but its the likes of ubisoft,EA,THQ that are making half arsed games and im sick of it!. Its just dragging the nintendo wii's name in the mud by having these lame ass graphics when we all know that the Wii is far more capable!. Anyone agree?

 

kingsy_the_one

Wii has just began it's journey,

Ps3's graphical powers aren't being understood yet,

when 360 first came out, it's graphics are no where as good as the games today.

Wii will get better, it's just that the system is new, and all systems start a bit rocky.

I was playing God of War 2 yesterday and I thought to myself, "if Playstation 2 can pump out graphics this good then just imagine what the Wii could do when developers actually take advantage of the system and its extra horsepower." Good graphics does add to the gameplay and to the experience. Just because a system has this great new controller doesn't mean developers can just ignore graphics. At the same time I was impressed with the art and some of the graphical effects in Twilight Princess, but then again that is a gamecube game...ColonialMustard

Cmon n00bs get over graphics.. May i remind you Wii is for GameplayArkansasBoy91

[QUOTE="DTbikerider9"]This is to ever created the topic- I.......HATE.....YOUEvilsmiler

 Ha!....you dont know how much i get that on the Wii forum 8) its a good thread anywayz as people are making alot of good points so i suggest you do the same dude.

Okay heres one for ya wii graphics=medicore theres no improving on them they are what the are so stop making threads about how the wii graphics arn't up to capabiltities because even the capabiltities s*ck

[QUOTE="Evilsmiler"]

[QUOTE="DTbikerider9"]This is to ever created the topic- I.......HATE.....YOUDTbikerider9

 Ha!....you dont know how much i get that on the Wii forum 8) its a good thread anywayz as people are making alot of good points so i suggest you do the same dude.

Okay heres one for ya wii graphics=medicore theres no improving on them they are what the are so stop making threads about how the wii graphics arn't up to capabiltities because even the capabiltities s*ck

Ok that makes no sense at all,i know the Wii's graphics capabilitites arent good but that dosnt mean that lazy developers dont still have to get the best graphics out of the Wii!!!!!........i cant keep emphasising that point to people any longer!

dude the wii has medicore graphics FINE=MEDICORE=S*CKS (just like u)DTbikerider9

Man you are so pissed off :lol:

Unforunately, most of you are morons. Think about it, the Wii has an about 700MHz processor. It was not made for gameplay, it is just simpler and cheaper to use. Its simply balancing cost and horsepower. On the flipside, its just the beginning for the Wii. They haven't had enough time to really play around with what needs to be done to get the most out of the system. Smash Bros. Brawl is going to be amazing, and I impressed with Twilight Princess. It is on a different spectrum the PS3 and 360, so you can't really say too much about it. Just my thoughts.AP11689

 Morons? did you even read the first post fully? its about developers getting lazy and not using the Wii to its full potential!.This is not a gameplay vs graphics thread and you just said and i quote 'It was not made for gameplay'.......now whos the moron eh? 8)

There is also a lot more to graphics than gaming...

DarthFedor

That is an absolutely foolish statement. 

Think about it, the Wii has an about 700MHz processor. It was not made for gameplay, it is just simpler and cheaper to use. Its simply balancing cost and horsepower.AP11689

What do you mean the Wii wasn't made for gameplay?  It just wasn't made for 1080p gameplay.  One of the reasons Nintendo put forth for the relatively low resolution of the Wii was a lower powered, lower cost processor.  Sure the PS3 is a lot faster than the Wii, but the Wii's GPU doesn't need to be as fast, it's doing roughly 1/4 of the work as the PS3's GPU.

Developers need to get on the ball and stop screwing around. Gameplay is far more important than graphics, but im not going to lie about graphics not mattering at all. 

Listen, we already knew that that Wii, wouldn't have as good of specs as the 360 or the PS3.  However, the Wii is much more capable of spitting out better graphics than it has thus far.  Heck, even the 360 and PS3 aren't being pushed to the limit...how about that?!  It's up to the game developers to harness the true power of those respective systems.  Heck...if the GC can make beautiful games like Twilight Princess and RE4, then imagine what the Wii can do when pushed to the limits, considering it's supposed to be more powerfful than the GC.  TP was originally a GC game--and looked pretty nice to me.  Aonuma himself stated that he looks forward to (and will be able to do more) working on the next Wii Zelda game, which will be built from the ground up on the Wii. 

 Now, if you push each system to their limits...will they all equal quality graphics? Of course not...especially with the Wii.  However, since the Wii emphasizes gameplay above all...I think the better graphics, it's capable of, will at least compliment the gameplay--which in turn will make you forget that the PS3 and 360 have better graphics.  If you give me a Wii game with graphics that are little better than RE4 and TP--with awesome responsive controls--then I'm satisfied!  Right now, we have games with crappy graphics being released, and it doesn't help when you're bread and butter is the same--motion sensing.  I'm not a graphics whore--I'm an entertainment and gameplay fanatic!  If the Wii's graphics are going to suck--and not pushed hard enough-then at least have fun controls and gameplay.  If the Wii doesn't have that, then it has nothing--and will be little more than a gimmick.

Cmon n00bs get over graphics.. May i remind you Wii is for GameplayArkansasBoy91

Listen, we already knew that that Wii, wouldn't have as good of specs as the 360 or the PS3.  However, the Wii is much more capable of spitting out better graphics than it has thus far.  Heck, even the 360 and PS3 aren't being pushed to the limit...how about that?!  It's up to the game developers to harness the true power of those respective systems.  Heck...if the GC can make beautiful games like Twilight Princess and RE4, then imagine what the Wii can do when pushed to the limits, considering it's supposed to be more powerfful than the GC.  TP was originally a GC game--and looked pretty nice to me.  Aonuma himself stated that he looks forward to (and will be able to do more) working on the next Wii Zelda game, which will be built from the ground up on the Wii. 

 Now, if you push each system to their limits...will they all equal quality graphics? Of course not...especially with the Wii.  However, since the Wii emphasizes gameplay above all...I think the better graphics, it's capable of, will at least compliment the gameplay--which in turn will make you forget that the PS3 and 360 have better graphics.  If you give me a Wii game with graphics that are little better than RE4 and TP--with awesome responsive controls--then I'm satisfied!  Right now, we have games with crappy graphics being released, and it doesn't help when you're bread and butter is the same--motion sensing.  I'm not a graphics whore--I'm an entertainment and gameplay fanatic!  If the Wii's graphics are going to suck--and not pushed hard enough-then at least have fun controls and gameplay.  If the Wii doesn't have that, then it has nothing--and will be little more than a gimmick.

Tri-Enforcer

I couldn't agree more.

Fortunately, better games are on the way.  They may not have better graphics that the 360 or PS3, but at least the graphics won't suck.    You can not tell me that MP3 and Mario Galaxy have bad graphics!  Their not 360 or PS3 graphics, but so what--I'm sure the controls and gameplay will compliment the nice graphics of those games.  Come on, look at the rave hype surrounding Paper Mario for the Wii!! Not a graphics pusher, but what makes it stand out is the gameplay mechanics and controls.  We need to all understand that just because a game's graphics doesn't have 360 or PS3 caliber graphics, does not mean the graphics are bad. Now, if the game has PS1 and and FIRST-generation PS2 or FIRST generation X-Box graphics--then that's a problem.  Like I said before, if the Wii's developers don't push the graphics, then please push the controls and gameplay to the max, which hasn't been done too much by the Wii thus far.

Zelda was a great launch title, but as usual, there's massive gaps between release dates of quality games for the Nintendo system.TheLordMagnus

You said it yourself, "as usual".  Nintendo doesn't make tons of first party games, and they're not that big of a company.  It takes time to make good games.

There is also a lot more to graphics than gaming...

Quit saying graphics aren't important. Games like GTA: Vice City wouldn't have ruled this much if they had Pacman graphics.

DarthFedor

Pacman sold millions without graphics. :| 

Buy a xbox 360 or a PS3

The wii is all about game play and  and everything else execpt for goody good graphics

PS3 is all about goody good graphics and for entertainment.

Xbox 360 would be the same but for better gaming

Because it was not made for gameplay...Ok people, do you think a company would make something weaker to appeal to "gameplay"? All that does is make it look like visuals are at the bottom of their list. Its called moving forward with new technology, not recycling the old. Obviously business is not your speciality. They made it weaker simply because it costs less for them and for you. They are smart enough to not lose money on creation of the console, and smart enough to charge the right price for it. You must be entirely retarded if you think I thought this was a graphics vs. gameplay thread. When did I ever say that? Everyone here is complaining about it, I am talking from a standpoint of it doesn't matter. They dont make systems for better graphics and weaker gameplay and vice versa. You would have to be pretty stupid to think that. Have fun. By the way, I am a Wii owner.AP11689

 First off calm down, whoever you're writing to.  I'm not questioning the business end of things.  Of course, what Nintendo is doing is great for profit--just look at the sales!  Trust me I know alot about business and money talks.  However, I'm not a business rep for Nintendo and their soaring profits do not put money in my pockets.  However it leaves my pockets empty and my satisfaction empty when I don't have too many good games to look forward to (right away at least).  From a consumer standpoint, I think what I demand is reasonable.  I clearly stated that I don't care if the Wii has PS3 or 360 graphics.  However, as a consumer...I do care if the games that I'm buying were made with a stronger effort, especially if I were spoiled by GC games that have decent graphics.  True Nintendo is making money, and that could very well lead to them to making better games.  However, if Nintendo is only out to make a quick buck off bogus games (and stay that way), then what good does their soaring profit do for me or you?