Im still hoping it will. What about you? do you want it to happen?
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Wii HD will not happen, end of story. The reason being is because devs will start making games with HD resolutions in mind and the games will begin to look worse or have lower framerates because devs are already to lazy to optimize their engines, and will constantly have to worry about the game being playable at HD resolutions. Nintendo doesnt want this.
One of the best things about the Wii is its low development costs, which means that games can sell much less units and still be profitable and therefore successful. I really hope that the next iteration of the Wii does not take that away, as I can think of a number of games that my gaming life would have been much worse off without, and which I really don't think we'd have seen on the other two consoles.
I don't understand why people always want to see all three consoles converge to the same location.
Well don't you think they need to remodel the whole system? You need to right graphics card like the 360 runs on 500MHz ATI Xenos, Good memory like 512MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700MHz, Good sound out puts like Analog stereo, Dolby Digital 5.1 etc.
While PS3 runs on the CPU 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband engine, the graphics (runs at 550Mz Nvidia/ SCEI RSX Reality Synthesizer, plus runs on different video outputs. Like HDMI runs on 480p,576p,720p,1080i and 1080p, D-Terminal, Component, RGB, Composite Video, etc.
A big work if it needs to run on HD.
Yeah and it's still not remotely close to the concept of actual high definition, hell, even 720p isn't really high definition, that's just marketing.um wii do. its an upconverter thing. it makes the game look smoother and better suit to work on an HDTV
bigM10231
no. the original xbox, slightly less powerful, can do 720p and 1080i on some games and the ps2 with a 147MHz GPU can do 1080i so right now the wii could do HD but nintendo put a block on it so it cant go higher than 480pWell don't you think they need to remodel the whole system? You need to right graphics card like the 360 runs on 500MHz ATI Xenos, Good memory like 512MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700MHz, Good sound out puts like Analog stereo, Dolby Digital 5.1 etc.
While PS3 runs on the CPU 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband engine, the graphics (runs at 550Mz Nvidia/ SCEI RSX Reality Synthesizer, plus runs on different video outputs. Like HDMI runs on 480p,576p,720p,1080i and 1080p, D-Terminal, Component, RGB, Composite Video, etc.
A big work if it needs to run on HD.
MazehcS0ul
Trust me, if they did release Wii HD capable of doing real real 720P or 1080P I think they'd pull in a helluva lot more customers and hardcore gamers that don't have a Wii like me. The reason I haven't purchased a Wii is because it's not and HD device and I have a HDTV. Could you imagine Super Mario Galaxy 3 in HD?!gamer082009If the Wii was HD it probably would help with some more hardcore gamers but most mainsteam people don't care or don't even really know what HD is. I know many people who bought 1080p sets and have VCR's hooked to them. Or have a PS3 hooked up with composite cables and don't know that it isn't in HD that way. I do wish it would at least output in 720P but that doesn't stop it from being fun and if someone is a hardcore gamer they should like to play as many games as they can and not let things like resolution stop them.
nope wiiHD will not happen, just forget about it.
For the next gen of consoles, yep you can bet that it will have HD capabilities.
people have been talking about Wii HD for Years. (started around 2007 right?)
It's 2010 now. I think people got the picture...THERE WILL NEVER BE A Wii HD!
people have been talking about Wii HD for Years. (started around 2007 right?)
It's 2010 now. I think people got the picture...THERE WILL NEVER BE A Wii HD!
LegatoSkyheart
Well I think Nintendo's next console will definitely support HD, and it in all likelihood will include motion controls as part of its repertoire, so in that respect there will be something like a "Wii HD"... but yeah, I rather doubt the idea that there will be a console released that is just "the Wii, only with HD support". That would be silly.
I think it would boost sales again. And if Nintendo thinks that changing the coolour to black will sell it then meh. Didn't the 360 have no HDMi port when it first came out? i know my old one doesn't
thingta42
Giving the Wii a black casing and giving it HD are two very different things; the black Wii doesn't require Nintendo to get completely new parts and have their system-building structure changed. To the claims that HD would improve sales, exactly to what end would it allow the Wii to be more successful? It's not as if Nintendo still isn't having enough trouble keeping the current Wii models in stock these days, and demand of the system definitely isn't an issue, but rather still greater than the current HD systems on the market. Nintendo would just be building a system for the hopes that there will be enough HD-crazed consumers to buy the system, and that's by no means a guaranteed no-brainer to justify building an HD-ready Wii at this point in the system's life. If Nintendo thought that the inclusion of HD would have been vital for the system's success at this juncture, it would have been there from the start.
"WiiHD," regardless of what exactly that name entails, would likely just be a hindrance to the current model moreso than a compliment. A mere HD-ready model would just be a waste of resources, given the Wii's success and time on the market, and a brand-new, more powerful system would be way too soon and likely cause a potential conflict when it comes to software development and focus. A few clamorings for a "WiiHD" on online gaming forums doesn't mean that it's a smart thing to do from a business side of things, and that's where I expect Nintendo's key objective with such an idea to be focused on.
It's also a fact that Wii sales have started to decline. And nodoubt everyone one who wanted one no doubt has one by now.
thingta42
That's what popular, non-necessary items do over-time, especially when it's something that you only have to buy once for your family to enjoy. Even so, the Wii's still selling at a pace that trumps any other gaming system you can think of for the amount of time it's been out not named the DS. The Wii's idea of "declining" would typically be the HD systems' idea of a really good month. Let's not forget that. :P
[QUOTE="thingta42"]
It's also a fact that Wii sales have started to decline. And nodoubt everyone one who wanted one no doubt has one by now.
Madmangamer364
That's what popular, non-necessary items do over-time, especially when it's something that you only have to buy once for your family to enjoy. Even so, the Wii's still selling at a pace that trumps any other gaming system you can think of for the amount of time it's been out not named the DS. The Wii's idea of "declining" would typically be the HD systems' idea of a really good month. Let's not forget that. :P
True indeed. However Both Sony and Microsoft are always updating theire consoles with newer features like being slimmer and having bigger hard-drives and it boosts sales. Wouldn't hurt Nintendo to atleast update there console too with HD720p after all have you seen those Emulated Wii games on youtube? being in 720p makes the games look frigging fantastic with no jaggies.
I would gladly pay 200$ or whatever forHD wii. Since i can't play my Wii because my TV is too big and playing a 480p console on a 1080p TV is too bad. It's all blurly and crap.
So they'll want to buy another one?It's also a fact that Wii sales have started to decline. And nodoubt everyone one who wanted one no doubt has one by now.
thingta42
Well don't you think they need to remodel the whole system? You need to right graphics card like the 360 runs on 500MHz ATI Xenos, Good memory like 512MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700MHz, Good sound out puts like Analog stereo, Dolby Digital 5.1 etc.
While PS3 runs on the CPU 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband engine, the graphics (runs at 550Mz Nvidia/ SCEI RSX Reality Synthesizer, plus runs on different video outputs. Like HDMI runs on 480p,576p,720p,1080i and 1080p, D-Terminal, Component, RGB, Composite Video, etc.
A big work if it needs to run on HD.
Graphic card? Game consolesGPU are not in the form of cards like in PCs. I hope you understand what i mean.[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]
[QUOTE="thingta42"]
It's also a fact that Wii sales have started to decline. And nodoubt everyone one who wanted one no doubt has one by now.
That's what popular, non-necessary items do over-time, especially when it's something that you only have to buy once for your family to enjoy. Even so, the Wii's still selling at a pace that trumps any other gaming system you can think of for the amount of time it's been out not named the DS. The Wii's idea of "declining" would typically be the HD systems' idea of a really good month. Let's not forget that. :P
True indeed. However Both Sony and Microsoft are always updating theire consoles with newer features like being slimmer and having bigger hard-drives and it boosts sales. Wouldn't hurt Nintendo to atleast update there console too with HD720p after all have you seen those Emulated Wii games on youtube? being in 720p makes the games look frigging fantastic with no jaggies.
I would gladly pay 200$ or whatever forHD wii. Since i can't play my Wii because my TV is too big and playing a 480p console on a 1080p TV is too bad. It's all blurly and crap.
It's not the same as the Wii the newer PS3s are slimmers but Sony has taken out three slots for SD and Micro SD cards, power swith from the back, touch panel for on and off and integrated BC and the exterior of the first one was made of a better material. I have a slim and had a 40GB one. As for the Hard Drive i wouldn't call that an upgrade, a bigger drive doesn't make a model better than the other, you can get one of your choise. Game consoles where not designed to be played on giant tvs like the ones raging from 50 and up inches. Many times when the Wii games look blurry and like crap it is caused by the quality and ability of the tv to handle SD resolution. That's a problem many people as of today don't understand, a bigger tv with 1080p doesn't means it will look better for games and better than all 720p tvs. Hey and those youtube videos of illegal copies of Wii games alter in HD are crap and doesn't show what HD is. HD details in video games can't be seen using uploaded videos online, HD is not better colors, HD means more details and clarity in the image. Playing a SD game on a good HD tv will show you the real graphics of the game you are playing, you will be able to notice every minor problem becase HD tvs are more clear in the image quality that's why Zelda Twilight Princess doesn't look that great on my tv wile Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, GameCube Paper Mario, Viewtiful Joe and many other Cube games look great.I think an HD version of the Wii would have been a much smarter choice than a black Wii. Going out and forking over another few hundred dollars for an HD Wii is much more sensible than spending a few hundred dollars for a black Wii when you already have a white Wii. On the other hand, I'd rather see Nintendo make a new HD next-gen system rather than make an HD version of the Wii.
Unfortunately, making the Wii non-HD was one of Nintendo's many mistakes in the context of hardcore gaming. The Wii seems to be largely marketed for families, so non-HD is fine for that target demographic. But for those of us who are more hardcore, it's a major drawback.
Unfortunately, making the Wii non-HD was one of Nintendo's many mistakes in the context of hardcore gaming. The Wii seems to be largely marketed for families, so non-HD is fine for that target demographic. But for those of us who are more hardcore, it's a major drawback.
MathMattS
How was it a mistake? They never had any intention of directly competing with the other consoles; in fact, they consciously designed the Wii so that it wouldn't.
[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]
[QUOTE="thingta42"]
It's also a fact that Wii sales have started to decline. And nodoubt everyone one who wanted one no doubt has one by now.
thingta42
That's what popular, non-necessary items do over-time, especially when it's something that you only have to buy once for your family to enjoy. Even so, the Wii's still selling at a pace that trumps any other gaming system you can think of for the amount of time it's been out not named the DS. The Wii's idea of "declining" would typically be the HD systems' idea of a really good month. Let's not forget that. :P
True indeed. However Both Sony and Microsoft are always updating theire consoles with newer features like being slimmer and having bigger hard-drives and it boosts sales. Wouldn't hurt Nintendo to atleast update there console too with HD720p after all have you seen those Emulated Wii games on youtube? being in 720p makes the games look frigging fantastic with no jaggies.
I would gladly pay 200$ or whatever forHD wii. Since i can't play my Wii because my TV is too big and playing a 480p console on a 1080p TV is too bad. It's all blurly and crap.
Sony and Microsoft aren't updating their consoles out of love, but as an attempt to increase demand; if their original models would have sold as well as the Wii did out of the gate, neither would have been as quick to adding those "updates," nor would the prices of those systems had dropped and cheaper models being introduced. They've been constantly trying to find ways to make their systems look as valuable to the consumer eye as the Wii, and to this point, that's STILL a work in progress. :P
Once again, YOU may be willing to get a WiiHD, but from a business side of things, introducing a totally new Wii model with nothing but an upscaled resolution makes little sense at this point, given the system's success without it. It's not as if the Wii is unplayable on your TV, but rather that you're not willing to play in 480p resolution on your 1080p set. Not trying to be rude, but that's what the Wii is and has always tried to be, so it's not like you've gotten a unfair deal.
[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]
[QUOTE="thingta42"]
It's also a fact that Wii sales have started to decline. And nodoubt everyone one who wanted one no doubt has one by now.
thingta42
That's what popular, non-necessary items do over-time, especially when it's something that you only have to buy once for your family to enjoy. Even so, the Wii's still selling at a pace that trumps any other gaming system you can think of for the amount of time it's been out not named the DS. The Wii's idea of "declining" would typically be the HD systems' idea of a really good month. Let's not forget that. :P
True indeed. However Both Sony and Microsoft are always updating theire consoles with newer features like being slimmer and having bigger hard-drives and it boosts sales. Wouldn't hurt Nintendo to atleast update there console too with HD720p after all have you seen those Emulated Wii games on youtube? being in 720p makes the games look frigging fantastic with no jaggies.
I would gladly pay 200$ or whatever forHD wii. Since i can't play my Wii because my TV is too big and playing a 480p console on a 1080p TV is too bad. It's all blurly and crap.
For one thing in order for the WiiHD to emulate Wii games in 720P it would have to be many times more powerful than the current Wii. Only fairly fast computers can emulate Wii games so most likely if they made a WiiHD that could emulate Wii games in HD it would cost way more than $200 as Nintendo charges that for its current hardware. Also this is a much bigger deal than just adding a new hard drive or making the Wii smaller, both of which could easily be done for the Wii but Nintendo so far doesn't even want to do that. Also I play my Wii on a 1080p set and it looks fine, 480p runs fine on an HD set. Now hooking a SNES game up in 224i, that's painful.I think an HD version of the Wii would have been a much smarter choice than a black Wii. Going out and forking over another few hundred dollars for an HD Wii is much more sensible than spending a few hundred dollars for a black Wii when you already have a white Wii. On the other hand, I'd rather see Nintendo make a new HD next-gen system rather than make an HD version of the Wii.
Unfortunately, making the Wii non-HD was one of Nintendo's many mistakes in the context of hardcore gaming. The Wii seems to be largely marketed for families, so non-HD is fine for that target demographic. But for those of us who are more hardcore, it's a major drawback.
Nintendo didn't realised the Wii in black for people with a white one, it is to atract new buyers with the color.[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"]
That's what popular, non-necessary items do over-time, especially when it's something that you only have to buy once for your family to enjoy. Even so, the Wii's still selling at a pace that trumps any other gaming system you can think of for the amount of time it's been out not named the DS. The Wii's idea of "declining" would typically be the HD systems' idea of a really good month. Let's not forget that. :P
True indeed. However Both Sony and Microsoft are always updating theire consoles with newer features like being slimmer and having bigger hard-drives and it boosts sales. Wouldn't hurt Nintendo to atleast update there console too with HD720p after all have you seen those Emulated Wii games on youtube? being in 720p makes the games look frigging fantastic with no jaggies.
I would gladly pay 200$ or whatever forHD wii. Since i can't play my Wii because my TV is too big and playing a 480p console on a 1080p TV is too bad. It's all blurly and crap.
For one thing in order for the WiiHD to emulate Wii games in 720P it would have to be many times more powerful than the current Wii. Only fairly fast computers can emulate Wii games so most likely if they made a WiiHD that could emulate Wii games in HD it would cost way more than $200 as Nintendo charges that for its current hardware. Also this is a much bigger deal than just adding a new hard drive or making the Wii smaller, both of which could easily be done for the Wii but Nintendo so far doesn't even want to do that. Also I play my Wii on a 1080p set and it looks fine, 480p runs fine on an HD set. Now hooking a SNES game up in 224i, that's painful. The same here, i think the Wii runs fine in HD tvs. On my tv it looks great, it all depends on how well your tv handle SD and the quality of it.[QUOTE="thingta42"]So they'll want to buy another one?It's also a fact that Wii sales have started to decline. And nodoubt everyone one who wanted one no doubt has one by now.
OreoMilkshake
People who own Wii's don't generally buy much games. For most people, it's novelty has worn off
People who own Wii's don't generally buy much games.
thingta42
That is a popular misconception, but it's a misconception all the same; the attach rate of the Wii (i.e., games sold divided by consoles sold) is in fact 7.56 (as of end of January 2010), which is just 0.35 behind the PS3's rate of 7.91. The idea that Wii owners are just buying the console and then don't bother with any games is a myth.
next gen ,
its a given , nintendo always advances slower when needed , because they make sure they can still offert a family console ranged in the 200-250 price range
hate them or not ,
its a known fact that osny or ms is just about the green not about actual well support for its consumers they want to charge double for everything ,
-system is 200 more ,
games are 10 more
and online on 360 is 50 more
and these costs just keep on coming ,,
did you expect a hd console from nintendo even after the chances theyve done ,and took
look they offered the best graphics every gen since nes,
once n64 cameevery one was like meh i rather have the least powerful console over a more powerful one because of laser -easy to scratch none the lessdisc format
face it , nintendo learned, they dont need graphics to sell ,
and you guys who say --oh nintendo needs hd or hd needs nintendo
i think your full of balogna because
1 half these hd games are the same games we saw last gen ,-dirt is colinmcrea rally grid is race driver 4 they jus swap names around to make you think its new, , and half these games dont even look as good as their hyped to look -i can name only one console game that really is truely amazing visually -that is super mario galaxy 2/1
yea sure forza and 007 on the 360 have that realistic look but , artistically , smg2 has it beat ,
and for the record fpses were better on the n64 /gc era -now we get games that are easier and half made-meaning you get what ever they decide to put on the disc then theyll come back and say oh ya look at these new maps
or characters./missions
what you dont know is , -its already inside the memory of the disc -your just paying them to unlock that feature except for games like gta and rockband/guitar hero , those are new ,
but these measly map packs , and the re5 vs mode ,its obvsious ,, your paying to unlock the mode -15 for 5 cod 6 maps , ,seariously , i can get rugrats episodes off of xbox live for 1600 for one season so id rather do that then waste 1500 points on 5 map packs ,, that i know wil end up not bein played after the game is dead online
and 3
hd brings gaming cost up , -as you notice 10 extra ,, i rather pay 50 for a fun quality game then 60 for one that i can beat in less then 2 days and have to buy extra content to get ful use out of it , example -wwe 2009 -2 roster updates each 400 points, are you serious , those wrestlers are a joke , you dont even get the good ones, -heck he only good roster update was weh the rock /stone cold was added not doink or ted debiase seriously , i wasted my money on them
point is
if the game on wii is 100 percent complete disc filled to compacity -which they are
i rather play that knowin i dont need ot buy extra content
then buy a 360 game thats half complete- such as pd0 or re5 -that months later they release 400-1500 map packs for them
thats not how a game is made,
im sorry -you gotta prove that those levels werent ment to be there -such as bogt or la d for me to buy into it but for pd0 i dont think so ----you can clearly see that all 6 of those maps were intended for release
-doesnt facility ring any bels why is it in the first one goldeneye but then they had took their time to bring it to pd0 , ,
temple same thing ,
these maps were made before hand thankfuly they were free
now the map pack 1 -includes 4 sp levels for use in mp
didnt goldenye have 4 sp levels from its respectful campaigne /.mission mode
yes itr sure did
so why couldn they have done this in the first place with pd0 like they did w pd and ge
its obvious , they want more money , , for a rushed project
so in the end , i dont care if wii goes hd at all ,considering how hd consoles have milked us for the money
i certainly want full complete games
not paying 4-20 more , ,for a complete game
bully se-thats a complete game hm dirt a complete game just few examples of what i want
sure itl be good to ad extras but they better be extras not modes that were intended for launch -eg re5 /pd0 /pgr/halo3 -wat wrong with the later is after they did those packs you gotta have them to play slayer/team slayer
jesus crysis is this thread still going? i thought we came to the conclusion that it will never happen. What are all of you arguing about now?
btw@ mariokartfan: no offense dude, but could u not press enter after every 5 words u type. plzzzzz. we arent writing code here or anything.
Nintendo's next console will feature HD visuals, but right now there is no need for a new version of the Wii that features HD graphics. The Wii is doing pretty well on, even with its limited hardware, and releasing an HD version would only make development costs skyrocket while not bringing that much of a profit from hardware sales.
Trust me, if they did release Wii HD capable of doing real real 720P or 1080P I think they'd pull in a helluva lot more customers and hardcore gamers that don't have a Wii like me. The reason I haven't purchased a Wii is because it's not and HD device and I have a HDTV. Could you imagine Super Mario Galaxy 3 in HD?!gamer082009I totally agree. The 71 million Nintendo Wii's sold would easily double. A lot of people who are hardcore gamers, that have the 360 or PS3 are dying for a Wii HD. Most of these said, hardcore gamers grew up on Nintendo's stuff. Why wouldn't we want to play Zelda or Mario, or Metroid in glorious HD?! I have purchased the Nintendo Wii twice, and I've sold it because I just cannot stand the lack of HD. Dont get me wrong, I love Nintendo, but not for not including HD this time. Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 still stand as one of my favorite games of all-time and will forever resonate in my mind. Now could you imagine if Nintendo made a Wii HD? You think Nintendo is rocking the house with sales right now? It'll probably double or triple. It would be all over the news.
The Wii has ridden its final wave now and it's doing remarkably well. But sooner or later, a Wii HD will happen. Not a Wii HD version, the NEXT console will be HD, for sure. With media going HD channels on television, Blu-ray becoming more popular and the prime choice to watch movies, HD will be a must for Nintendo for them to survive. But as of right now, of course there is no need. Once Microsoft starts announcing their next console, and Sony as well, Nintendo will have no choice but to finally reveal the Wii HD. It's inevitable.
I totally agree. The 71 million Nintendo Wii's sold would easily double. A lot of people who are hardcore gamers, that have the 360 or PS3 are dying for a Wii HD. Most of these said, hardcore gamers grew up on Nintendo's stuff. Why wouldn't we want to play Zelda or Mario, or Metroid in glorious HD?! I have purchased the Nintendo Wii twice, and I've sold it because I just cannot stand the lack of HD. Dont get me wrong, I love Nintendo, but not for not including HD this time. Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 still stand as one of my favorite games of all-time and will forever resonate in my mind. Now could you imagine if Nintendo made a Wii HD? You think Nintendo is rocking the house with sales right now? It'll probably double or triple. It would be all over the news.
The Wii has ridden its final wave now and it's doing remarkably well. But sooner or later, a Wii HD will happen. Not a Wii HD version, the NEXT console will be HD, for sure. With media going HD channels on television, Blu-ray becoming more popular and the prime choice to watch movies, HD will be a must for Nintendo for them to survive. But as of right now, of course there is no need. Once Microsoft starts announcing their next console, and Sony as well, Nintendo will have no choice but to finally reveal the Wii HD. It's inevitable.
Elian2530
But... wait, if you've bought the Nintendo Wii twice, then that means that you've given Nintendo twice as much money as you normally would have? :P
Wii HD? No, but the next Nintendo home console will probably support at least 720p and be capable of more advanced graphics.
There were a lot of criticism about the Wii not supporting HD resolution and high-end graphics, therefore it would be dangerous for Nintendo to ignore this a second time around.
However, if Nintendo plans to further evolve how games can be played like they did with the Wii, this will - once again - make it difficult for the more rigid developers to create quality games for the console, just as what happened with the Wii, and then it might not matter if it has the "horsepower" or not.
That being said, the next generation of consoles will probably all be HD capable.
And as the hardware performance increase while the resolution doesn't (HD is till HD) the next Nintendo console should be able to have pretty nice graphics wile still being affordable.
But as always I believe that new and improved ways of actually playing is more important and eye-candy.
Well the next nintendo console will almost certainly be HD capable.
But nintendo's not going to release a new console soon just to have HD, and then their full new console in a couple years. You'll just have to wait for next gen.
And even if there was a Wii HD, you'd have to wait for new HD games to be made for it. The old Wii games wouldn't suddenly become upscaled to work in HD
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