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#1 -Despacio-
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If this so called "game" sells like hotcakes, I fear to think what Nintendo will come up with next. I have been right there with Nintendo and their expanding audience role since the Wii was first announced. I like the idea of opening up gaming to a bigger audience. But from everything I saw and read about Wiimusic at E3, this is just a whole new level of casual. The idea that all you have to do is wave your Wiimote around to make music is silly, and worse goes against the very idea of what a game does, it challenges. The guy at E3 who asked Miyamoto how WiiMusic differs from a toy hit the nail right on the head.

Worse, the fact that as things stand right now, WiiMusic and Animal Crossing are the only Wii games Nintendo will be offering this Holiday period disgusts me. For the first time I will nto be buying a Nintendo 1st party game in the October/November/December period. I would actually recommened to anyone interested in a Wii to wait until Wiimotion+ launches next Spring. That's a 7-8 month wait. That's a long time.

Heck, if it were not for games like Sega's Mad World and High Voltage's The Conduit coming early next year, I'd put my Wii on eBay right now and just buy a Wii about a year from now when some devs could do some interesting things with Wiimotion+.

Where's Kid Icarus, Punch Out w/ Balance Board, Star Fox, F-Zero, Disaster Day of Crisis, or just any new IP all together for the more dedicated and traditional gamers from Nintendo this year?

I'm really dissapointed in Nintendo this year, and I love them and the universe of gaming they have created. I really hope Wiimusic fails in sales and Nintendo gets a lesson of when casual gaming and the quick cash it brings them goes a little to far.

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#2 Lynx777
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Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

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Disaster Day of Crisis is coming. It just had been rated on the OFLC website which it will come to Europe.
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#4 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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I'm actually sorry to say, but there are no Wii games in production that I'm aware of that I'm interested in. I have got about 8 games for it though, so my Wii isn't completely spent.
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#5 red_sovereign
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i cant believe that wiimusic either! a serious wtf moment for me. but nintendo doesnt have any ds titles coming out in the Q4 do they??? i usually shift to the port. when ninty fails on wii;)
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Animal Crossing looks decent, but Wii Music looks terrible.
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If this so called "game" sells like hotcakes, I fear to think what Nintendo will come up with next. I have been right there with Nintendo and their expanding audience role since the Wii was first announced. I like the idea of opening up gaming to a bigger audience. But from everything I saw and read about Wiimusic at E3, this is just a whole new level of casual. The idea that all you have to do is wave your Wiimote around to make music is silly, and worse goes against the very idea of what a game does, it challenges. The guy at E3 who asked Miyamoto how WiiMusic differs from a toy hit the nail right on the head.

Worse, the fact that as things stand right now, WiiMusic and Animal Crossing are the only Wii games Nintendo will be offering this Holiday period disgusts me. For the first time I will nto be buying a Nintendo 1st party game in the October/November/December period. I would actually recommened to anyone interested in a Wii to wait until Wiimotion+ launches next Spring. That's a 7-8 month wait. That's a long time.

Heck, if it were not for games like Sega's Mad World and High Voltage's The Conduit coming early next year, I'd put my Wii on eBay right now and just buy a Wii about a year from now when some devs could do some interesting things with Wiimotion+.

Where's Kid Icarus, Punch Out w/ Balance Board, Star Fox, F-Zero, Disaster Day of Crisis, or just any new IP all together for the more dedicated and traditional gamers from Nintendo this year?

I'm really dissapointed in Nintendo this year, and I love them and the universe of gaming they have created. I really hope Wiimusic fails in sales and Nintendo gets a lesson of when casual gaming and the quick cash it brings them goes a little to far.

-Despacio-

It's not my fault if you don't watch what's coming in the 3rd party side and the taste of games you have? I always thought that people who only buy Nintendo games are stupid close minded people. I'll have more 3rd party games than you'll have in the entire generation.

Casual gaming will expand. You really think that Microsoft and Sony will let Nintendo winning the casual market again. Next gen will be a new meaning of consoles because all consoles will be more casual.

I have a feeling Wii Music will sell.

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#8 flazzle
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It's a just game. It reminds me of Mario Paint for the SNES. Just a toy. Nintendo isn't abandoning anything or anyone. In fact, I feel they are very well aware of all types of games. Reggie himself said he would like to see a GTA on the Wii, likes BioShock and hopes more games like that come out, and totally appreciates LBP and Halo.

But N always catered to family. They are just more successful with it than ever.

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I'm curious to see how well it does. I'm guessing it will sell like crazy to parents of small children. But overall, I think it will be the least successful of all the 'Wii' titles so far. It doesn't seem to appeal to as wide of an audience as say, Wii Sports or Wii Fit.
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It's a just game. It reminds me of Mario Paint for the SNES. Just a toy. Nintendo isn't abandoning anything or anyone. In fact, I feel they are very well aware of all types of games. Reggie himself said he would like to see a GTA on the Wii, likes BioShock and hopes more games like that come out, and totally appreciates LBP and Halo.

But N always catered to family. They are just more successful with it than ever.

flazzle

Oh man I was just about to bring up Mario Paint!

The point is that if people really have been with Nintendo for a long time they would realize they were always like this. Rob, power pad, super scope, virtual boy, all things that were different, made by nintendo and didn't destroy gaming.

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It won't fail. It will sell millions of copies before the year is even over.
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#12 -Despacio-
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The difference between Mario Paint and WiiMusic is that Nintendo is counting this as one of their two big flagship Holiday titles. That as well as the game's make up is what upsets me the most.

As for the poster way above who says it's not his fault? What? Of course it's not your fault and I am a very open minded gamer, I own all the consoles and am looking forward to a lot of games this gen for other consoles as well as a few third party Wii games. Fatal Frame IV, Deadly Creatures, etc.

Again, I am very dissapointed in Nintendo themselves and their first party offering. Despite owning all consoles minus the PSP, Nintendo has and will always own a special place in my gamer heart. I expect great things of them the most.

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Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

Lynx777

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

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That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

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[QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

Paleo_Orca

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

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[QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

Lynx777

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician, he plays guitar, bass, keyboard, drums and pretty much any instrument you give him. But guess what? He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

"Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money"

EXACTLY! You know why they're doing it? Because no one buys music anymore.

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That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

Jaysonguy
That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.
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That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

randomguy15

That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.

Letting people play what they want is a bad idea?

Oh I'm sorry, for the next 5 years you buy what games I say and you'll like it

Just tell me when you want to start.

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

Jaysonguy

That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.

Letting people play what they want is a bad idea?

Oh I'm sorry, for the next 5 years you buy what games I say and you'll like it

Just tell me when you want to start.

If we let people only make games what sells best we'll have too many casual games. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to let people play games they want to. and where did that comment about me playin your games come from? It had nothing to do with these posts.
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#20 mali
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Why do I sense a case of xenophobia among Nintendo fans? I do not understand the paranoia and the "sky is falling" mentality.

Wii Music "must fall" will be a false prophesy.

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Jaysonguy, you are my hero.
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[QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

Paleo_Orca

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician, he plays guitar, bass, keyboard, drums and pretty much any instrument you give him. But guess what? He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

"Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money"

EXACTLY! You know why they're doing it? Because no one buys music anymore.

I play alto tenor and soprano saxaphone, bass and soprano clarinet and piano, and I love rock band and guitar hero. They are some of my favorite games so.. still no valid points have been made here >.>
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

randomguy15

That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.

Letting people play what they want is a bad idea?

Oh I'm sorry, for the next 5 years you buy what games I say and you'll like it

Just tell me when you want to start.

If we let people only make games what sells best we'll have too many casual games. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to let people play games they want to. and where did that comment about me playin your games come from? It had nothing to do with these posts.

It has everything to do with it

If the game sells then people want it

You on the other hand don't want people to have it and you certainly don't want them to make more so you're telling people that they need to play what YOU want them to play.

If Wii Music sells great then there will be a lot of people who have a game they want, I don't begrudge others for having fun.

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

Jaysonguy

That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.

Letting people play what they want is a bad idea?

Oh I'm sorry, for the next 5 years you buy what games I say and you'll like it

Just tell me when you want to start.

If we let people only make games what sells best we'll have too many casual games. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to let people play games they want to. and where did that comment about me playin your games come from? It had nothing to do with these posts.

It has everything to do with it

If the game sells then people want it

You on the other hand don't want people to have it and you certainly don't want them to make more so you're telling people that they need to play what YOU want them to play.

If Wii Music sells great then there will be a lot of people who have a game they want, I don't begrudge others for having fun.

Don't put words in my mouth. I don't want people to play games that I play i just don't like your idea of having three times more casual games then what they already have.
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#25 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

randomguy15

That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.

Letting people play what they want is a bad idea?

Oh I'm sorry, for the next 5 years you buy what games I say and you'll like it

Just tell me when you want to start.

If we let people only make games what sells best we'll have too many casual games. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to let people play games they want to. and where did that comment about me playin your games come from? It had nothing to do with these posts.

It has everything to do with it

If the game sells then people want it

You on the other hand don't want people to have it and you certainly don't want them to make more so you're telling people that they need to play what YOU want them to play.

If Wii Music sells great then there will be a lot of people who have a game they want, I don't begrudge others for having fun.

Don't put words in my mouth. I don't want people to play games that I play i just don't like your idea of having three times more casual games then what they already have.

Yes, you don't want people to have games unless you choose them, you're making yourself perfectly clear.

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[QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

tgh93_29

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician, he plays guitar, bass, keyboard, drums and pretty much any instrument you give him. But guess what? He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

"Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money"

EXACTLY! You know why they're doing it? Because no one buys music anymore.

I play alto tenor and soprano saxaphone, bass and soprano clarinet and piano, and I love rock band and guitar hero. They are some of my favorite games so.. still no valid points have been made here >.>

See Lynx777? A lot of musicians love the series. But then you have those... elitist snobs that don't want to have anything to do with it.

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No Nintendo games? I'm buying Mario Super Sluggers in a couple of weeks.:|
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[QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

tgh93_29

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician, he plays guitar, bass, keyboard, drums and pretty much any instrument you give him. But guess what? He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

"Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money"

EXACTLY! You know why they're doing it? Because no one buys music anymore.

I play alto tenor and soprano saxaphone, bass and soprano clarinet and piano, and I love rock band and guitar hero. They are some of my favorite games so.. still no valid points have been made here >.>

No valid points? I forgot that the only people that buy those games forget that they are paying hundreds of dollars to hear songs that they already have on their computer, cd, mp3 player, cassette tape, record player, etc...

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

Jaysonguy

That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.

Letting people play what they want is a bad idea?

Oh I'm sorry, for the next 5 years you buy what games I say and you'll like it

Just tell me when you want to start.

If we let people only make games what sells best we'll have too many casual games. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to let people play games they want to. and where did that comment about me playin your games come from? It had nothing to do with these posts.

It has everything to do with it

If the game sells then people want it

You on the other hand don't want people to have it and you certainly don't want them to make more so you're telling people that they need to play what YOU want them to play.

If Wii Music sells great then there will be a lot of people who have a game they want, I don't begrudge others for having fun.

Don't put words in my mouth. I don't want people to play games that I play i just don't like your idea of having three times more casual games then what they already have.

Yes, you don't want people to have games unless you choose them, you're making yourself perfectly clear.

No, i don't want casual games to sell better than other genres. Not necessarly my games.
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#30 Super-Mario-Fan
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Why do I sense a case of xenophobia among Nintendo fans? I do not understand the paranoia and the "sky is falling" mentality.

Wii Music "must fall" will be a false prophesy.

mali

Agreed. I'm not going to buy it, and will just move on.

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[QUOTE="tgh93_29"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

Paleo_Orca

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician, he plays guitar, bass, keyboard, drums and pretty much any instrument you give him. But guess what? He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

"Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money"

EXACTLY! You know why they're doing it? Because no one buys music anymore.

I play alto tenor and soprano saxaphone, bass and soprano clarinet and piano, and I love rock band and guitar hero. They are some of my favorite games so.. still no valid points have been made here >.>

See Lynx777? A lot of musicians love the series. But then you have those... elitist snobs that don't want to have anything to do with it.

Elitist snob? I find myself to be an Old World philosopher. By the way, the world doesn't need any more emo musicians.

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I like the idea of opening up gaming to a bigger audience. But from everything I saw and read about Wiimusic at E3, this is just a whole new level of casual. The idea that all you have to do is wave your Wiimote around to make music is silly, and worse goes against the very idea of what a game does, it challenges. The guy at E3 who asked Miyamoto how WiiMusic differs from a toy hit the nail right on the head.

-Despacio-

You present what the Nintendo Fans are thinking right now. There is a resounding distaste for Wii Music. I agree this game reaks of gimickry. The game will probabably go the way of Mario and Sonic Olympics. Don't worry about it. Nintendo has made all sorts of these niche games. This isn't the first misstep Nintendo has made. You should realize that for innovation to happen you have to experiment and see what sticks. Remember Nintendo is in it for the money and the more money they make the more they will experiment and the less they will 'play it safe' with the staples like: Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong. Don't worry E3 may have been pretty lame for Nintendo but you will see some really nice games for the Wii come the Tokyo Game Convention. Oh and there are some great games coming out this holiday: Spore, StarWars-Force Unleased, Animal Crossing, de Blob. I'm sure they will have some good Virtual Console games too (Earthbound and maybe Chrono Trigger (Just a prediction)). Don't forget that Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy are out (you can still play those).

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#33 Lynx777
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[QUOTE="-Despacio-"]

I like the idea of opening up gaming to a bigger audience. But from everything I saw and read about Wiimusic at E3, this is just a whole new level of casual. The idea that all you have to do is wave your Wiimote around to make music is silly, and worse goes against the very idea of what a game does, it challenges. The guy at E3 who asked Miyamoto how WiiMusic differs from a toy hit the nail right on the head.

gam3r3OOO

You present what the Nintendo Fans are thinking right now. There is a resounding distaste for Wii Music. I agree this game reaks of gimickry. The game will probabably go the way of Mario and Sonic Olympics. Don't worry about it. Nintendo has made all sorts of these niche games. This isn't the first misstep Nintendo has made. You should realize that for innovation to happen you have to experiment and see what sticks. Remember Nintendo is in it for the money and the more money they make the more they will experiment and the less they will 'play it safe' with the staples like: Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong. Don't worry E3 may have been pretty lame for Nintendo but you will see some really nice games for the Wii come the Tokyo Game Convention. Oh and there are some great games coming out this holiday: Spore, StarWars-Force Unleased, Animal Crossing, de Blob. I'm sure they will have some good Virtual Console games too (Earthbound and maybe Chrono Trigger (Just a prediction)). Don't forget that Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy are out (you can still play those).

Chrono Trigger is coming out but for ds. not vc.

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#34 gam3r3OOO
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[QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="tgh93_29"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

I hate music games

Lynx777

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician... He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

Because no one buys music anymore.

no valid points have been made here >.>

Lynx777 a lot of musicians love the series.

Elitist snob? I find myself to be an Old World philosopher. By the way, the world doesn't need any more emo musicians.

You are overreacting to what the last poster said. He wasn't actually calling 'you' an elitist snob

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No, i don't want casual games to sell better than other genres. Not necessarly my games.randomguy15

If you're saying that casual games shouldn't sell then YOU'RE saying what you want

You've made it perfectly clear that you think certain people shouldn't have games. I find that viewpoint not only selfish but dangerous as well.

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#37 gam3r3OOO
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@Lynx: Crossing my fingers that Chrono Trigger comes out for Wii as well. My point is: that there will probably be some good VC titles this holiday (to compensate for their lack of AAA titles this holiday season).
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#38 randomguy15
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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]No, i don't want casual games to sell better than other genres. Not necessarly my games.Jaysonguy

If you're saying that casual games shouldn't sell then YOU'RE saying what you want

You've made it perfectly clear that you think certain people shouldn't have games. I find that viewpoint not only selfish but dangerous as well.

When did I say casual games shouldn't sell? You keep saying you want people to buy their games and whatever sells make more of that genre. Casual games can sell as far as I'm concerned but making more and more isn't needed. I'm just saying your idea is not a goood one, understand yet?
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[QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="tgh93_29"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

Lynx777

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician, he plays guitar, bass, keyboard, drums and pretty much any instrument you give him. But guess what? He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

"Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money"

EXACTLY! You know why they're doing it? Because no one buys music anymore.

I play alto tenor and soprano saxaphone, bass and soprano clarinet and piano, and I love rock band and guitar hero. They are some of my favorite games so.. still no valid points have been made here >.>

See Lynx777? A lot of musicians love the series. But then you have those... elitist snobs that don't want to have anything to do with it.

Elitist snob? I find myself to be an Old World philosopher. By the way, the world doesn't need any more emo musicians.

Not all musicians are emo. You can't generalize all musicians as such. You fancy you're self an old world philosopher? of what?
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#40 Lynx777
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@Lynx: Crossing my fingers that Chrono Trigger comes out for Wii as well. My point is: that there will probably be some good VC titles this holiday (to compensate for their lack of AAA titles this holiday season).gam3r3OOO

It probably won't come out for wii. The main reason, I think, why it is coming out for ds is that you can charge $40 instead of only $8 on VC. But it will be a port will added content. The content: new dungeon, optional touch screen controls, and wireless multiplayer. I have no idea what the dungeon or multiplayer features will be like, though.

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#41 Lynx777
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[QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="tgh93_29"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"][QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="Lynx777"]

Man I hate music games. Well...except Electroplankton. Music games (i.e.: rock band, guitar hero...) ruin music and what they stand for. Music games are just ways to sell out.

Durhamster

How does it ruin music when it promotes it? >_>

Games like guitar hero and rock band are actually becoming the saving grace for the music industry right now. Well, for rock music at least.

Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money. What happened to making something for the sake of making it?! But I knowyou'll say that some songs are older songs. So to that I say that its nothing but a selling point for the game.

Plus people look like idiots playing those games. The time they spend on guitar hero they could learn songs on a real instrument. Its more successful to say that you can play "smoke on the water" than say you beat guitar hero on expert.

sigh...

I have a friend who's a musician, he plays guitar, bass, keyboard, drums and pretty much any instrument you give him. But guess what? He also enjoys playing rock band with me.

"Putting music on those games is just a way to get more money"

EXACTLY! You know why they're doing it? Because no one buys music anymore.

I play alto tenor and soprano saxaphone, bass and soprano clarinet and piano, and I love rock band and guitar hero. They are some of my favorite games so.. still no valid points have been made here >.>

See Lynx777? A lot of musicians love the series. But then you have those... elitist snobs that don't want to have anything to do with it.

Elitist snob? I find myself to be an Old World philosopher. By the way, the world doesn't need any more emo musicians.

Not all musicians are emo. You can't generalize all musicians as such. You fancy you're self an old world philosopher? of what?

The world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, etc...

Actually, I have some time altering theories that could completely destroy all of modern history as we know it. I'm serious.

I'm Not insane. If you'd like to know my main theory send me a message.

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#42 Durhamster
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="randomguy15"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

That's nice

orrrrrrrrrrrrr

We could just let people buy what they like and hope that more games are made for them?

Let's go with my idea

randomguy15

That's a horrible idea, if that was the case Nintendo would be casual all the time with no hardcore games.

Letting people play what they want is a bad idea?

Oh I'm sorry, for the next 5 years you buy what games I say and you'll like it

Just tell me when you want to start.

If we let people only make games what sells best we'll have too many casual games. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to let people play games they want to. and where did that comment about me playin your games come from? It had nothing to do with these posts.

It has everything to do with it

If the game sells then people want it

You on the other hand don't want people to have it and you certainly don't want them to make more so you're telling people that they need to play what YOU want them to play.

If Wii Music sells great then there will be a lot of people who have a game they want, I don't begrudge others for having fun.

Don't put words in my mouth. I don't want people to play games that I play i just don't like your idea of having three times more casual games then what they already have.

Yes, you don't want people to have games unless you choose them, you're making yourself perfectly clear.

No, i don't want casual games to sell better than other genres. Not necessarly my games.

Casual games get a lot of people interested in gaming in the first place. Once they're interested in games they useually will look more into the more "hardecore" games when they would have never thought of gaming otherwise. So in a sense, casual games can be like gateway drugs :P The number of gamers is on the rise, a very very, rapid rise, and casual games can be attributed to a good ammount of this.
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It wont though, it will sell madcore...
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#44 Lynx777
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The world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, etc...

Actually, I have some time altering theories that could completely destroy all of modern history as we know it. I'm serious.

I'm Not insane. If you'd like to know my main theory send me a message.

Just kidding about the theories. I just wanted to mess with people.

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(Aimed at the TC)

Just enjoy your 360, there are plenty of good games for that to look forward to.

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This really makes me laugh. People are worrying too much. Let's take a step back in time. Okay earlier this year people were saying "Oh 3rd. Party for Wii sux!". Now here we are now and we have 3rd Party companies coming out with some really good games. Now people are saying "1st part support for Wii sux". Am I the only one who sees that people will complain no matter what?

Casual gamers are not a threat to us hard core gamers. I think many of you fail to see the economic benefits of us hardcore gamers. Nintendo makes millions upon millions off of just us. So why do you think that abandoning us is in their schedule? That's ridiculous. Nintendo will not stop making cool and awesome games for us. Heaven forbid they do not realease something for a good while. It doesn't really bother me. I have resorted to beating a lot of my older games that I have failed to beat for now. Not appealing to us does not make economic sense, so keep in mind something is coming. I think everyone who keeps up with the changes in the world of gaming knows that E3 is not for us anymore, but for the shareholders. So I really don't care about E3. "E3 is casual", well I don't care. Whoopdee doo!

Here is my advice: relax.Wii Music is not the end of the world.

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I'm just ignoring the game now
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This really makes me laugh. People are worrying too much. Let's take a step back in time. Okay earlier this year people were saying "Oh 3rd. Party for Wii sux!". Now here we are now and we have 3rd Party companies coming out with some really good games. Now people are saying "1st part support for Wii sux". Am I the only one who sees that people will complain no matter what?

Casual gamers are not a threat to us hard core gamers. I think many of you fail to see the economic benefits of us hardcore gamers. Nintendo makes millions upon millions off of just us. So why do you think that abandoning us is in their schedule? That's ridiculous. Nintendo will not stop making cool and awesome games for us. Heaven forbid they do not realease something for a good while. It doesn't really bother me. I have resorted to beating a lot of my older games that I have failed to beat for now. Not appealing to us does not make economic sense, so keep in mind something is coming. I think everyone who keeps up with the changes in the world of gaming knows that E3 is not for us anymore, but for the shareholders. So I really don't care about E3. "E3 is casual", well I don't care. Whoopdee doo!

Here is my advice: relax.Wii Music is not the end of the world.

Amvis
Well said
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Wii Music will sell really well. There is no way it will fail when it comes to commercial success. However it will be heavily bashed by reviewers.

And don't worry, Nintendo won't stop producing Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Disaster, Animal Crossing, F-Zero, Star Fox, Kiry, DK or Smash Bros just because a game of the Wii series will sell millions of copies.

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#50 Keenzach
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why must it fail i liked the other games in the wii series and wii sports resort looks fun. This however doesnt but still i think it should succeed It would only give nintendo more money to make greatness