Wii Music Review - IGN

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]IGN once again lowers the score of a game they didn't hype so they can raise the score of one that they did.Jaysonguy

Which overrated score are you referring to?

Whatever flavor of the month they're pushing.

You should check out Jordan's blog about IGN RIGHT AROUND HERE

IGN doctors scores. Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames even edits other Wii reviews so the total score reflects what he thinks it should get.

I pity the Wii games that release around the Conduit. They're going to get points taken off simply because they're going to have to be used to pump up the Conduit's price, oh I mean score.

Casamassina really must of got paid a ton for high voltage's first two games. Those 7.2 and 6.5 ratings were just off the charts. IGN's just putting up their opinions, the readers are the ones hyping the games.

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]IGN once again lowers the score of a game they didn't hype so they can raise the score of one that they did.Jaysonguy

Which overrated score are you referring to?

Whatever flavor of the month they're pushing.

You should check out Jordan's blog about IGN RIGHT AROUND HERE

IGN doctors scores. Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames even edits other Wii reviews so the total score reflects what he thinks it should get.

I pity the Wii games that release around the Conduit. They're going to get points taken off simply because they're going to have to be used to pump up the Conduit's price, oh I mean score.

Jasonguy, i agree with you 100%.

But i'll be getting this probably. Not instantly, but eventually.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]IGN once again lowers the score of a game they didn't hype so they can raise the score of one that they did.Eberq

Which overrated score are you referring to?

Whatever flavor of the month they're pushing.

You should check out Jordan's blog about IGN RIGHT AROUND HERE

IGN doctors scores. Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames even edits other Wii reviews so the total score reflects what he thinks it should get.

I pity the Wii games that release around the Conduit. They're going to get points taken off simply because they're going to have to be used to pump up the Conduit's price, oh I mean score.

Casamassina really must of got paid a ton for high voltage's first two games. Those 7.2 and 6.5 ratings were just off the charts. IGN's just putting up their opinions, the readers are the ones hyping the games.

Also IGN somehow missed that High Voltage's first game was incomplete. Though Nintendo and High Voltage both commented about it.

Odd huh?

[QUOTE="Eberq"]

Casamassina really must of got paid a ton for high voltage's first two games. Those 7.2 and 6.5 ratings were just off the charts.

Jaysonguy

Irrelevant. "Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames even edits other Wii reviews so the total score reflects what he thinks it should get," remember? Or is Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames not the same person as Cassaheydidyouguysknowthere'smorethenthewiimoteit'sgotthisnunchukthingtoo?

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Eberq"]

Casamassina really must of got paid a ton for high voltage's first two games. Those 7.2 and 6.5 ratings were just off the charts.

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Irrelevant. "Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames even edits other Wii reviews so the total score reflects what he thinks it should get," remember? Or is Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames not the same person as Cassaheydidyouguysknowthere'smorethenthewiimoteit'sgotthisnunchukthingtoo?

Normally I'd say yes he does but this is Bozon.

I'm not sure of the relationship between those two. I know anyone under them is screwed. Let me find one example where it happens and they just don't care....

Obscure's review HERE

"I think Ryan liked the game a little more than I did, which is why we've lowered the overall score for the Wii version, even if it is better than the PS2 build."

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]IGN once again lowers the score of a game they didn't hype so they can raise the score of one that they did.Eberq

Which overrated score are you referring to?

Whatever flavor of the month they're pushing.

You should check out Jordan's blog about IGN RIGHT AROUND HERE

IGN doctors scores. Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames even edits other Wii reviews so the total score reflects what he thinks it should get.

I pity the Wii games that release around the Conduit. They're going to get points taken off simply because they're going to have to be used to pump up the Conduit's price, oh I mean score.

Casamassina really must of got paid a ton for high voltage's first two games. Those 7.2 and 6.5 ratings were just off the charts. IGN's just putting up their opinions, the readers are the ones hyping the games.

That blog was an overreaction on my part, and you can kind of see my progression from "OMG payoffs!!1" to "eh, I might be wrong" in the comments of that entry. It was mainly in reaction to the explosion of hype from The Conduit when it looked mediocre at best at that point. It looks much better now, to be honest. Still nothing that makes me feel faint, but better. ;)

I never followed up on the reviews of those WiiWare games. It seems even stranger now that the previews for those games were so positive yet the reviews show nothing stellar. Maybe IGN got too caught up in their own High Voltage hype at first and thought that everything that developer touched would turn into gold.

Obscure's review HERE

"I think Ryan liked the game a little more than I did, which is why we've lowered the overall score for the Wii version, even if it is better than the PS2 build."

Jaysonguy

Why don't you keep reading? "Fact is, much of the Wii's features are underused in Obscure..." and then he proceeds to explain why the score is lowered.

Your conspiracy theory is completely unsubstantiated. You make things that are perfectly understandable seem sinister.

>> Matt Casamassina on High Voltage's The Conduit:

• "The game sports a [COLOR=Red]very crisp, clean look[/COLOR] complemented by [COLOR=Red]a host of graphical effects[/COLOR], from dramatic real-time lighting and particles to bump- and normal-mapped objects. [COLOR=Red]Characters animate fluidly[/COLOR] ... Later, when High Voltage brought The Conduit to our E3 war room, the polished visuals encapsulating the title tricked a few passersby into believing that The Conduit was an Xbox 360 game."

• "And now that we've gripped the Wii remote in our hands, run through a world drown in uncommon (for Wii) graphical effects and gunned down alien vermin with [COLOR=Red]customized precision[/COLOR], we can state without any hesitation that it most certainly is the real deal. Put it on your radar right now because it is exactly the caliber of Wii effort you've been waiting for."

• "Regardless of your control preferences, you will absolutely be able to come to the [COLOR=Red]perfect calibration[/COLOR]. We've got nothing to complain about there. Running and gunning through environments feels speedy and incredibly responsive."

>> Contrast that with Matt Casamassina on a previous High Voltage game, The Haunted Mansion (GC), which he gave a 7.0:

• "The Haunted Mansion [COLOR=Red]doesn't overwhelm with detail or advanced graphic engine effects[/COLOR], but it's not ugly either. The title features adequate character models ... Zeke [COLOR=Red]lacks the fluid movement[/COLOR] of some motion-captured heroes"

• "However, because [COLOR=Red]textures don't appear overly crisp[/COLOR], many of the rooms Zeke visits have a decidedly blurrier look about them, especially when the lights are turned on."

• "Though the control mechanics seem to get the job done, they are [COLOR=Red]not what we would describe as overly precise[/COLOR]."

Mark Bozon has also been gushy over The Conduit. He has instructed readers to "show your support for one of Wii's top independently-developed titles." Yet he too reviewed past High Voltage games and didn't gush over those:

Ben 10: Protector of the Earth (Wii) - 6.8

V.I.P. Casino: Blackjack (Wii) - 6.5

Gyrostarr (Wii) - 7.2

The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (GC) - 7.2

Here's an idea: maybe they're not being paid off by High Voltage. Maybe they genuinely think it's a good game.

[QUOTE="Eberq"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]IGN once again lowers the score of a game they didn't hype so they can raise the score of one that they did.JordanElek

Which overrated score are you referring to?

Whatever flavor of the month they're pushing.

You should check out Jordan's blog about IGN RIGHT AROUND HERE

IGN doctors scores. Matt CassahowdidIgetthisjobIcan'tplaygames even edits other Wii reviews so the total score reflects what he thinks it should get.

I pity the Wii games that release around the Conduit. They're going to get points taken off simply because they're going to have to be used to pump up the Conduit's price, oh I mean score.

Casamassina really must of got paid a ton for high voltage's first two games. Those 7.2 and 6.5 ratings were just off the charts. IGN's just putting up their opinions, the readers are the ones hyping the games.

That blog was an overreaction on my part, and you can kind of see my progression from "OMG payoffs!!1" to "eh, I might be wrong" in the comments of that entry. It was mainly in reaction to the explosion of hype from The Conduit when it looked mediocre at best at that point. It looks much better now, to be honest. Still nothing that makes me feel faint, but better. ;)

I never followed up on the reviews of those WiiWare games. It seems even stranger now that the previews for those games were so positive yet the reviews show nothing stellar. Maybe IGN got too caught up in their own High Voltage hype at first and thought that everything that developer touched would turn into gold.

That's fine I'll admit I just skimmed the blog, was mostly responding to Jaysonguy anyways. Just sharing my opinion, and on the whole I think IGN's nintendo reviews are pretty fair. Obviously some scores are off but the scores are opinions as well. As for Casamassina not knowing how to play games, I would have hoped he would have figured it out by now, since I think he has been at IGN around ten years.

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Obscure's review HERE

"I think Ryan liked the game a little more than I did, which is why we've lowered the overall score for the Wii version, even if it is better than the PS2 build."

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Why don't you keep reading? "Fact is, much of the Wii's features are underused in Obscure..." and then he proceeds to explain why the score is lowered.

Yes, doesn't make use of the motion controls is one. He hates the fact that the Wii has motion controls and they aren't used in this game. Points down for sure.

Then we see in a game like Smash Bros.....

"On top of that, Nintendo has allowed the option to control the game in whatever fashion you choose, be it with the Wii remote, Wii remote and nunchuk, ****c controller, GameCube pad, or even the Wave Bird. (It must be noted that Brawl is not well-suited to a standalone Wii remote; it plays much better with an old-school pad.) Just plug in and the title will immediately and very intuitively recognize your preference; you can even play against friends, all armed with different controllers. And if that weren't all enough, you can fully customize the control configurations for every pad. It's an incredibly flexible system sure to accommodate even the most discerning and finicky players. How could it not? You can play exactly how you want to without many restrictions."

So no motions and he LOVES it! Can't get enough of that no motion! One tacked on never used motion is perfect for him. He loves the lack of motion so much he doesn't even talk about it.

Also if you noticed the other two Wii games are licensed properties.

Yes, doesn't make use of the motion controls is one. He hates the fact that the Wii has motion controls and they aren't used in this game. Points down for sure.

Then we see in a game like Smash Bros.....

Jaysonguy

He took marks off because Obscure lacked "clever Wii remote-mapped gameplay mechanics." Brawl also lacked that in his opinion, but made up for it by offering you alternative ways to play. I think most people here can agree that well-utilised motion control is a good thing while forced waggle isn't.

You're really grasping now. You cite JordanElek's blog about Matt being bribed to back up your accusations... but JordanElek has distanced himself from it already. Eberq pointed out that IGN has reviewed past High Voltage games and didn't give them stellar marks, and your response was that Matt C didn't review them... then I pointed out that Matt C did review a High Voltage game and gave it a lacklustre score. Still waiting on your response, cuz you've moved on to attempting to find little contradictions in Matt C's opinions.

Sorry, but how Matt C feels about SSBB's and Obscure's implementation of controls is not what's at issue. What is at issue is your zany conspiracy theories. You have not a lick of evidence to support them and Occam's Razor shreds them to bits.

Unless you can actually back up your defamatory accusations, don't post them.

not surprised. i didn't really understand how you play music without playing notes. and then i saw an article "Miyamoto introduces Wii Music to kindergartens" on kotaku.com, and then that was an obvious hint that the game wouldn't do so well with reviews. I don't think reviewers would have much fun playing a game that feels like it was designed by Fisher-Price.SneakySnake151

yup

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]IGN once again lowers the score of a game they didn't hype so they can raise the score of one that they did.clicketyclick

You seem to have a really screwy sense of cause and effect.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yes, doesn't make use of the motion controls is one. He hates the fact that the Wii has motion controls and they aren't used in this game. Points down for sure.

Then we see in a game like Smash Bros.....

clicketyclick

He took marks off because Obscure lacked "clever Wii remote-mapped gameplay mechanics." Brawl also lacked that in his opinion, but made up for it by offering you alternative ways to play. I think most people here can agree that well-utilised motion control is a good thing while forced waggle isn't.

You're really grasping now. You cite JordanElek's blog about Matt being bribed to back up your accusations... but JordanElek has distanced himself from it already. Eberq pointed out that IGN has reviewed past High Voltage games and didn't give them stellar marks, and your response was that Matt C didn't review them... then I pointed out that Matt C did review a High Voltage game and gave it a lacklustre score. Still waiting on your response, cuz you've moved on to attempting to find little contradictions in Matt C's opinions.

Sorry, but how Matt C feels about SSBB's and Obscure's implementation of controls is not what's at issue. What is at issue is your zany conspiracy theories. You have not a lick of evidence to support them and Occam's Razor shreds them to bits.

Unless you can actually back up your defamatory accusations, don't post them.

Never does he even bring up the issue of motion control. So what you just said there is a big fat guess, which I think you're wrong so sorry, no dice.

Like I said, I don't know what deal CassaItlookslikeItakebribesforscores and Bozon have. I do know that there's more then enough to connect the process.

Also I pointed out that the two other Wii disk games are licensed proprties from another company.

No that's crap

Never does he even bring up the issue of motion control. So what you just said there is a big fat guess, which I think you're wrong so sorry, no dice.

Jaysonguy

He said Obscure lacked "clever Wii remote-mapped gameplay mechanics." He also said, "Brawl is not well-suited to a standalone Wii remote; it plays much better with an old-school pad." Here's another fact: Obscure has no other options but to use the Wii remote while Brawl has other options. Hence, the wii remote not being well-implemented or best suited for the gameplay is not an issue in Brawl, yet remains an issue in Obscure.

Also I pointed out that the two other Wii disk games are licensed proprties from another company.

Jaysonguy

And I still don't see the relevance.

Congrats Nintendo. THIS is what you spend your time making?toadster101

Honestly, how can this be good, it looked bad when I 1st saw it at E3, anytime Nintendo themselves made a shovelware game, you know something is wrong.