Wii Want More Hardcore!

[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]You know I will just ask this right here, for all those saying they need more hardcore and Wii games aren't hardcore enough for them and it needs people like Epic and Bungie developing for them. Explain what makes Gears of War more hardcore than Wii Sports. TaMuK711

Poor comparison to help your point. Gears has a storyline, local co-op, multiplayer online, and curbstompings. Wii Sports is a tech demo, which isn't a bad thing, I freaking love Wii Sports, but it doesn't take itself for anything other than that.

I intentionally picked Wii Sports and not something like Mario Galaxy just for the purpose of a response like this, well lets look at Endless Ocean, a storyline(check), online multiplayer(check) lots of games don't have curbstomping so that doesn't matter, so I guess thats hardcore, I think Cooking Mama has all those besides the curbstomping of course. You know what the point was? you people create this insane distinction between what makes something hardcore and what makes it casual

a story- even some of those mini game compliations have stories

co-op- most of them have multiplayer some even co op play

online play-Not the Wii's strongest point but even games like Bioshock, Dead Rising , Assassins Creed didn't have online so are they casual?

curbstomping? Are you even serious?

All your saying is why isn't the Wii filled with cliche rated M FPS and thats all, thats what "where is the hardcore" means and thats all it means, anyone can try and deny it as much as they want, but thats the truth. Any distinction you make , I will tear it down with ease, because they don't make sense.

[QUOTE="ragapan"]It matters to me because everyone is talking about how the wii is a babies console and that is because most of them games are casual and targeted for little ones which matters to a teenager like me but u are right i could just only buy hardcore games and leave the casual games out but its not easy with all those kiddie wii games u see advertised on tv lol u knowDDRMom

What do you guys have against games that appeal to the casual gaming audience? Not enough FPS titles? Not enough swearing or blood and gore? Difficulty too low? wiifan001

Why care what others think? The sooner you get past that, the more fun you'll have.

And, as a grown adult [I'm 38] ... I find there's plenty of `mature' games. Mature [in my book] doesn't mean blood + FPS ... in fact, that's more of glorified youth games to me. IMO, plenty of adults have friends who have been to Afghanistan or Iraq [I do] and shooters lose their romance [for me] when you see the reality actual bullets create.

I sure loved them in high school and college ... now that I'm grown, not so much.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]hmm lets see people buy all that license crap while games like NMH, Madworld, The Conduit, Overkill, Deadly Creatures, De Blob etc you all that stfuff you consider "teh hardcorez" sit on the shelves and you wonder why stores have things like that on the shelves. Don't meaure a library by what you see on the store shelves check a game list every now and then and perhaps you would have a better awareness of what is actually available.Sepewrath

You're telling me there are organized, sponsoredcompetitions for NMH? Competitions with your friends is entirely different and I'm sure you know that. There's a difference between playing baseball with your friends and playing competitively on a team.

[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]hmm lets see people buy all that license crap while games like NMH, Madworld, The Conduit, Overkill, Deadly Creatures, De Blob etc you all that stfuff you consider "teh hardcorez" sit on the shelves and you wonder why stores have things like that on the shelves. Don't meaure a library by what you see on the store shelves check a game list every now and then and perhaps you would have a better awareness of what is actually available.psychobrew

First of all the Conduit is not the best FPS on the Wii Call of Duty: World at War, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Medal of Honor Heroes 2 are rated much higher. There games where the main part of the game is competition such as Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3,Dokapon Kingdom and Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10. What part of "the experience" is the missing?

how dare you come onto this board and express your dissapointment concerning the lack of hardcore games on Wii!

If you were a real nintendo fan you would convince yourself that mediocre games are actually better than they really are, and you'd start defending the Wii's pathetic game library because it's "special" and "innovative".

what are you thinking?

how dare you come onto this board and express your dissapointment concerning the lack of hardcore games on Wii!

If you were a real nintendo fan you would convince yourself that mediocre games are actually better than they really are, and you'd start defending the Wii's pathetic game library because it's "special" and "innovative".

what are you thinking?

finesse-gamer

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]hmm lets see people buy all that license crap while games like NMH, Madworld, The Conduit, Overkill, Deadly Creatures, De Blob etc you all that stfuff you consider "teh hardcorez" sit on the shelves and you wonder why stores have things like that on the shelves. Don't meaure a library by what you see on the store shelves check a game list every now and then and perhaps you would have a better awareness of what is actually available.Burning-Sludge

First of all the Conduit is not the best FPS on the Wii Call of Duty: World at War, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Medal of Honor Heroes 2 are rated much higher. There games where the main part of the game is competition such as Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3,Dokapon Kingdom and Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10. What part of "the experience" is the missing?

Personally, I don't care how a game is rated -- it's just someone elses opinion against mine, and I will always go with my opinion before I go with someone elses.

There's a difference between a little fun competition between family and friends and competition at an organized event - is backyard Baseball the same thing as Major League Baseball? Tiger Woods 10 might have organized events, but Dragon Ball Z?

[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

how dare you come onto this board and express your dissapointment concerning the lack of hardcore games on Wii!

If you were a real nintendo fan you would convince yourself that mediocre games are actually better than they really are, and you'd start defending the Wii's pathetic game library because it's "special" and "innovative".

what are you thinking?

BrunoBRS

only on a nintendo board would people not be sure if a post like that were sarcasm... lol

how dare you come onto this board and express your dissapointment concerning the lack of hardcore games on Wii!

If you were a real nintendo fan you would convince yourself that mediocre games are actually better than they really are, and you'd start defending the Wii's pathetic game library because it's "special" and "innovative".

what are you thinking?

you need to try all of these before stating this

no more heroes

zack and wiki

resident evil 1

resident evil 4

resident evil uc

wwe smack down vs raw

need for speed any of them

driver

bully se

man hunt 2

house of the dead 2/3 and over kill

madworld

punchout

excite bots trick racing

mariokart

mario galaxy

metroid prime 3

ssbb

crusin

ferrari challenge

klonoa

the point is, the hardcore like titles are there you just gotta try some out , ,

racing fps horror , platformer etc , ,youell find them on wii

also call of duty 5 and quantum of solace,

shaun white snowboarding

all of these mentioned games are good for the hardcore,

half the wii library gets no attention and these are racing games for the most part, i dont see how these aint hardcore ,unless you dont like racing games, and there is more

red steel2

no more heroes2

super mario galaxy 2

zelda wii

metroid the other m

new super mario bros wii

shaun white 2

ff cc chubo trackers or somthing like that, i cnat never get the title down lol

dirt 2

and im pretty sure we just had the condoit ,

give them support then they will bring us more

You complain, and yet you won't buy them when they actually come out. You sure had better buy Little King's Story this week.

blankshore

agreed. one major problem is that the hardcore games that are out for the wii arent being bought. Mad world, The conduit, and House of the Dead: overkill sold terribly. If people dont start buying hardcore wii games, then developers are not going to support the platform.

it dshould have more hard core games more m gamesmajergameplayer

So the ESRB choses what games are hardcore.

[QUOTE="blankshore"]

You complain, and yet you won't buy them when they actually come out. You sure had better buy Little King's Story this week.

agreed. one major problem is that the hardcore games that are out for the wii arent being bought. Mad world, The conduit, and House of the Dead: overkill sold terribly. If people dont start buying hardcore wii games, then developers are not going to support the platform.

[QUOTE="jettpack"]

[QUOTE="blankshore"]

You complain, and yet you won't buy them when they actually come out. You sure had better buy Little King's Story this week.

psychobrew

agreed. one major problem is that the hardcore games that are out for the wii arent being bought. Mad world, The conduit, and House of the Dead: overkill sold terribly. If people dont start buying hardcore wii games, then developers are not going to support the platform.