will 3ds mean the "death" of ds, dsl and dsi?

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#1 evilikki22
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what do you think folks?

or may the 3ds be just another (and new) portable video game?

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#2 Amnesiac23
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Because there are so many people like me who either have vision problems (I'm blind in my right eye making 3D very hard on my eyes...or eye) or get sick when watching something in 3D that I can't ever see this replacing or "killing" off the original DS. I would be VERY disappointed in Nintendo if they did try to discontinue the original in favor of this.

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#3 DJ_Lae
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If it plays DS games as well as the new format, Nintendo will definitely discontinue production of the various DS models. They also said the DS was not competing with the GBA back before it launched, and they cut off production of the GBA:SP and GBA Micro extremely quickly.
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It's the successor to the DS, so yes, there will be more more DS/DSi games made in the near future.
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Because there are so many people like me who either have vision problems (I'm blind in my right eye making 3D very hard on my eyes...or eye) or get sick when watching something in 3D that I can't ever see this replacing or "killing" off the original DS. I would be VERY disappointed in Nintendo if they did try to discontinue the original in favor of this.

Amnesiac23

You can play all games without the 3D

Of course its gonna replace DS/DSi

DS Lite just got discontinued by Nintendo in order to prepare for 3DS

DSi got a price drop

DSi likely will be around for maybe another year, maybe 2, but by 2012 the 3DS will be the big thing and DSi will be gone

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#6 Amnesiac23
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="Amnesiac23"]

Because there are so many people like me who either have vision problems (I'm blind in my right eye making 3D very hard on my eyes...or eye) or get sick when watching something in 3D that I can't ever see this replacing or "killing" off the original DS. I would be VERY disappointed in Nintendo if they did try to discontinue the original in favor of this.

You can play all games without the 3D

Of course its gonna replace DS/DSi

DS Lite just got discontinued by Nintendo in order to prepare for 3DS

DSi got a price drop

DSi likely will be around for maybe another year, maybe 2, but by 2012 the 3DS will be the big thing and DSi will be gone

Ahhhhhh...that makes me feel a little bit better. lol 3d is still useless to me though :(
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#7 Nintendo_Ownes7
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It is the next generation of the DS. It will be backward Compatible so there will be about a year of new titles on the DS and DSi but most developers will be focusing on the 3DS.

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#8 martinX3X
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No its not ever for the DS's. Theres still a huge library of great games to play. maybe in 2012.

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#9 RichardWrite
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Those who think that Nintendo will ditch the XL and go exclusively with the 3DS just do not understand Nintendo's strategy. Their strategy for many years has been to let Sony and Microsoft compete for the rabid graphics-are-everything gaming fanatics. They have concentrated on providing enough gaming to keep that group satisfied, but cocnentrating heavily on the casual gamers. And yes, we're talking about people who are children and people who are middle-age and older. That was a huge part of their market with the Wii and it's certainly a huge part of their DSi XL market. For Nintendo to stop making the only handheld that appeals to older gamers would make as much sense for them to cancel the Wii in favor of an X-Box clone. They simply will not surrender those customers.

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#10 DJ_Lae
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For Nintendo to stop making the only handheld that appeals to older gamers would make as much sense for them to cancel the Wii in favor of an X-Box clone. They simply will not surrender those customers.

RichardWrite
They will eventually discontinue the Wii in favour of the next console, though. And the 3DS will likely have every feature the DS currently has, so Nintendo won't be losing any of their audience - they'll just be selling them new, more expensive hardware.
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#11 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="RichardWrite"]

For Nintendo to stop making the only handheld that appeals to older gamers would make as much sense for them to cancel the Wii in favor of an X-Box clone. They simply will not surrender those customers.

DJ_Lae

They will eventually discontinue the Wii in favour of the next console, though. And the 3DS will likely have every feature the DS currently has, so Nintendo won't be losing any of their audience - they'll just be selling them new, more expensive hardware.

Yes infact, Nintendo's biggest priority is to get those audiences to 3DS and which is the best way?

To not advertise the DS and advertise 3DS playing DS and 3D games

Kinda like how Twilight Princess was advertised as a Wii game mostly and a lot of consumers thought that was the only console it was on

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I'm guessing not initially. But since it is Nintendo's new handheld, it will probably usurp the DS/DSi in time, just as the DS did with the Gameboy. One reason I assume so is because it's backwards-compatible with the DS, or so I've heard.

I'm sure that everyone will be reluctant to give up their DS or DSi in the beginning, but they all succumb eventually. LOL, JK ;P

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#13 RichardWrite
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[QUOTE="RichardWrite"]

For Nintendo to stop making the only handheld that appeals to older gamers would make as much sense for them to cancel the Wii in favor of an X-Box clone. They simply will not surrender those customers.

DJ_Lae
They will eventually discontinue the Wii in favour of the next console, though. And the 3DS will likely have every feature the DS currently has, so Nintendo won't be losing any of their audience - they'll just be selling them new, more expensive hardware.

Let me give you another example. Amazon would never turn the Kindle into a handheld gaming system and start promoting it primarily as a gaming device? But why not? It would still do what it always did.......Serving as an e-book reader. So why not change it to a game system and promote it as such? BECAUSE PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING. And the avid book readers would perceive that Amazon had sold out and started making games instead of readers. The 3DS will be marketed as this super-cool toy with high-end futuristic graphics. It will not be perceived as something that welcomes the older gamers. Worse yet, I suspect the 3DS is going to be a colossal failure.
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#14 HungryLuma
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Of course. They're not doing anything new. They're just adding either new graphics, or new features/apps. I like the DSi's apps, though.

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Worse yet, I suspect the 3DS is going to be a colossal failure.RichardWrite

Why? Because it's 3D? That feature, which Nintendo confirmed that you can disable, will hardly be the only advantage this system has over the DS.

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[QUOTE="RichardWrite"]Worse yet, I suspect the 3DS is going to be a colossal failure.ThePlothole

Why? Because it's 3D? That feature, which Nintendo confirmed that you can disable, will hardly be the only advantage this system has over the DS.

So, what you're saying is that if you can disable the 3D feature, then it would basically be a waste of money. The point of it IS the 3D feature.

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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="RichardWrite"]Worse yet, I suspect the 3DS is going to be a colossal failure.HungryLuma

Why? Because it's 3D? That feature, which Nintendo confirmed that you can disable, will hardly be the only advantage this system has over the DS.

So, what you're saying is that if you can disable the 3D feature, then it will basically a DS?

No, that's completely opposite of what I said. Even without 3D the 3DS is still the proper successor to the DS. It's going to be more powerful and possess other features.

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#18 HungryLuma
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="HungryLuma"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

Why? Because it's 3D? That feature, which Nintendo confirmed that you can disable, will hardly be the only advantage this system has over the DS.

So, what you're saying is that if you can disable the 3D feature, then it will basically a DS?

No, that's completely opposite of what I said. Even without 3D the 3DS is still the proper successor to the DS. It's going to be more powerful and possess other features.

What do you mean by "More powerful"? What would be the point of wasting money on it anyway? The DSi hasn't even been out for 2 years.
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#19 ThePlothole
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What do you mean by "More powerful"? What would be the point of wasting money on it anyway? The DSi hasn't even been out for 2 years.HungryLuma

I mean its processing capabilities will far exceed the DS or DSi. It will likely be comparable to the GameCube.

By the time the "3DS" is released the DSi will have been out for two years in Japan. Longer than the GBA SP was out prior to the DS, and less than half a year short of the Game Boy Color's run. So not bad for something that was only meant to extend the life of an aging platform.

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[QUOTE="HungryLuma"]What do you mean by "More powerful"? What would be the point of wasting money on it anyway? The DSi hasn't even been out for 2 years.ThePlothole

I mean its processing capabilities will far exceed the DS or DSi. It will likely be comparable to the GameCube.

By the time the "3DS" is released the DSi will have been out for two years in Japan. Longer than the GBA SP was out prior to the DS, and less than half a year short of the Game Boy Color's run. So not bad for something that was only meant to extend the life of an aging platform.

Just with 3D graphics... Not that special ya know.
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Just with 3D graphics... Not that special ya know.HungryLuma

No, not "just with 3D graphics". That is like saying the Game Boy Advance was nothing special. Because what that system was to the original Game Boy is, regardless of 3D, what the "3DS" is to the DS. It's not just another variation like the DSi was. The 3DS is the next generation Nintendo handheld, and the first of the "eighth generation" systems.

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#22 RichardWrite
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[QUOTE="HungryLuma"]Just with 3D graphics... Not that special ya know.ThePlothole

No, not "just with 3D graphics". That is like saying the Game Boy Advance was nothing special. Because what that system was to the original Game Boy is, regardless of 3D, what the "3DS" is to the DS. It's not just another variation like the DSi was. The 3DS is the next generation Nintendo handheld, and the first of the "eighth generation" systems.

That seems to be very important to you dsi detractors, doesn't it?
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#23 Cruse34
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well I thought the DS was already in the hospital and the families on the way, so for sure it will when the 3DS comes out.

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[QUOTE="HungryLuma"]Just with 3D graphics... Not that special ya know.ThePlothole

No, not "just with 3D graphics". That is like saying the Game Boy Advance was nothing special. Because what that system was to the original Game Boy is, regardless of 3D, what the "3DS" is to the DS. It's not just another variation like the DSi was. The 3DS is the next generation Nintendo handheld, and the first of the "eighth generation" systems.

Well then, when people trade their DS/DSi for this and they hate it, they will regret even knowing about it.
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That seems to be very important to you dsi detractors, doesn't it?RichardWrite

Excuse me?

I'm getting the impression that some DSi owners want the 3DS to fail.

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#27 HungryLuma
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[QUOTE="HungryLuma"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

No, not "just with 3D graphics". That is like saying the Game Boy Advance was nothing special. Because what that system was to the original Game Boy is, regardless of 3D, what the "3DS" is to the DS. It's not just another variation like the DSi was. The 3DS is the next generation Nintendo handheld, and the first of the "eighth generation" systems.

Ramen1020

Well then, when people trade their DS/DSi for this and they hate it, they will regret even knowing about it.

WTF are you talking about?

If you read it, then you would know.
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[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

[QUOTE="HungryLuma"] Well then, when people trade their DS/DSi for this and they hate it, they will regret even knowing about it.HungryLuma

WTF are you talking about?

If you read it, then you would know.


Why don't you want the DS to become more powerful? Do you want another POINTLESS DS?

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[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

[QUOTE="HungryLuma"] Well then, when people trade their DS/DSi for this and they hate it, they will regret even knowing about it.HungryLuma

WTF are you talking about?

If you read it, then you would know.

Well your reasoning just makes no sense. If the 3DS is going to be fully backwards compatible (which has been confirmed) theres really no way it can be a step back, so i don't see how people would regret buying it.

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DS games will continue to trickle out for a little while yet. We still have big releases like Golden Sun DS, Pokemon Black & White, Dragon Quest 7 and Okamiden on the way for the DS. And the DSi XL will probably continue to be sold for a little while into the 3DS's lifespan, to give players a cheaper alternative.

But yes, the 3DS pretty much means the death of the DS line. It's time to move on. The DS came out in late 2004, and we're in the middle of 2010 now. If gaming hasn't hurt your eyes all of these years, I have trouble believing that 3D effects will hurt your eyes too much to play games now.

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[QUOTE="HungryLuma"][QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

WTF are you talking about?

Ramen1020

If you read it, then you would know.

Well your reasoning just makes no sense. If the 3DS is going to be fully backwards compatible (which has been confirmed) theres really no way it can be a step back, so i don't see how people would regret buying it.

Yeah, and the funny thing is - nobody has even SEEN the 3DS yet lol. It's all pretty much pointless complaining and overdramatic concern. I think the 3DS will be pretty awesome, I don't know what all the **** is about.

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#32 SylvanMidget
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I don't think we'll see the end of the DS for a while actually. Sure, there may not be any great first party games from this point on but why would third party develops quit making games for a system that has such a big user base? I mean, they're still making games for the PS2, and that's what, 4 years after the PS3 came out?

I think the DS will be running strong for another 2-3 years.

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I don't think we'll see the end of the DS for a while actually. Sure, there may not be any great first party games from this point on but why would third party develops quit making games for a system that has such a big user base? I mean, they're still making games for the PS2, and that's what, 4 years after the PS3 came out?

I think the DS will be running strong for another 2-3 years.

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i'm not that optimistic

namco said this week that the ds and wii games sells was starting to fall, so i think that the publishers will begin to avoid these platforms very soon

another publisher said that the 3ds games sells model it´s going to be good for the publishers and game developers

so i think the DSfamilyit´s going to die in the next year already

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[QUOTE="RichardWrite"]That seems to be very important to you dsi detractors, doesn't it?ThePlothole

Excuse me?

I'm getting the impression that some DSi owners want the 3DS to fail.

That was the feeling I got from the DSi XL detractors. Not good enough that they could just not buy one......They hate it being available.
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That was the feeling I got from the DSi XL detractors. Not good enough that they could just not buy one......They hate it being available.RichardWrite

If someone wants to buy a DSi or DSi XL, more power to them. They just shouldn't take the announcement of the 3DS so personal. Nintendo never claimed that the DSi would be what succeeded the DS, nor made any indications to that effect.

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[QUOTE="HungryLuma"][QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

WTF are you talking about?

Ramen1020

If you read it, then you would know.

Well your reasoning just makes no sense. If the 3DS is going to be fully backwards compatible (which has been confirmed) theres really no way it can be a step back, so i don't see how people would regret buying it.

It was an opinion.
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#37 JLF1
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Yes and no.

It is the next generation so it will eventually take over the market form the DS. At least Nintendo hopes it does. Look at the SNES, Mega Drive, PS2, GBA though. They all had a ton of high quality games long after their successors was released.

Nintendo probably won't prioritize the DS in software but third party devs won't leave in the near future.

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I should point out that if you GOOGLE or BING the phrase "Nintendo DS 2011 releases," a whole lot of DS games are being released through next year at least. I don't think we DSi fans have to worry about our handhelds becoming obsolete TOO soon.

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I should point out that if you GOOGLE or BING the phrase "Nintendo DS 2011 releases," a whole lot of DS games are being released through next year at least. I don't think we DSi fans have to worry about our handhelds becoming obsolete TOO soon.

RichardWrite

Well yeah, historically all Nintendo handhelds have seen support for a year or two after the successor is released. Still don't be surprised if a few of those games currently announced for the DS end up having their development shifted to the new platform.

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#40 RichardWrite
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[QUOTE="RichardWrite"]

I should point out that if you GOOGLE or BING the phrase "Nintendo DS 2011 releases," a whole lot of DS games are being released through next year at least. I don't think we DSi fans have to worry about our handhelds becoming obsolete TOO soon.

ThePlothole

Well yeah, historically all Nintendo handhelds have seen support for a year or two after the successor is released. Still don't be surprised if a few of those games currently announced for the DS end up having their development shifted to the new platform.

LOL, see this is what I don't get. It absolutely kills some of you to think that some of us might still be enjoying the XL a year from now. That's sad.
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LOL, see this is what I don't get. It absolutely kills some of you to think that some of us might still be enjoying the XL a year from now. That's sad.RichardWrite

Seriously, stop putting words in my mouth.

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#42 RichardWrite
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[QUOTE="RichardWrite"]LOL, see this is what I don't get. It absolutely kills some of you to think that some of us might still be enjoying the XL a year from now. That's sad.ThePlothole

Seriously, stop putting words in my mouth.

Then I'll let you put your own words in your mouth: How do you feel if a whole bunch of us enjoy the XL so much that one year from now, we've not bought the 3DS but are still having a blast with the new games coming out for the DS?
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#43 ThePlothole
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Then I'll let you put your own words in your mouth: How do you feel if a whole bunch of us enjoy the XL so much that one year from now, we've not bought the 3DS but are still having a blast with the new games coming out for the DS?RichardWrite

If you enjoy something why should it bother me? I still enjoy playing my original Game Boy, as much of a battery hog as it is. And I plan on acquiring a Game Boy Advance soon so that I can play Game Boy Color games*. Obviously I'm not going to stop buying DS games after I get a 3DS either.

*(I already play GBA on my DS Lite... in fact the funny thing is that my first GBA game was also the first game I bought for it)

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I think both systems will be able to coexist for awhile, until 3DS really has a great gaming line up. The original ds got off to a slow start game wise, but it soon picked up and expect the 3ds to go through that same kind of transition.

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Eventually, but not at first. It's their best selling system ever, and the sales are far from bad. I don't think they're in any rush to discontinue it. Just look at the PS2.
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#47 midisurfmind
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IMO it'll follow the same pattern as the GBA when the DS came out. It'll run alongside the 3DS for a while, but after a short while all the major releases will all be on 3DS, while the DS will get movie tie-ins and smaller games until the time it dies out.

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#48 RichardWrite
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Well obviously EVENTUALLY the Ds is going to die. Eventually, so will the 3DS. I just believe that the evidence tells me that those with the XL have a good 2 or 3 years before we have to worry about that. After all, I still regularly buy games that were released 2 years ago. We know for a fact that games for the DS are still scheduled through 2011, so....if next year, I'm still catching up on games released this year, that keeps me good until at least 2012, or 2013 with the XL.

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#49 Smallville417
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Yes, eventually.

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#50 HungryLuma
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One thing I hate about Nintendo is how fast they release stuff. In my opinion, the 3DS shouldn't be released so early, even though I'm not getting one. It should be released by like 2012 or 2013.