will a Wii title ever get a 10?

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#1 nakasa5
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GS, the same site that gave Zelda TP the infamous 8.8 (if you needed to be reminded), has now given its second 10 in the last month. MGS may deserve a 10, i haven't played that game. GTA4 was good, but it wasn't too original nor did it advance the series very much imo- which is the same thing they knocked Zelda TP for.

my question is this- will the Wii ever get such a favorable rating? If it hasn't gotten it yet, with titles like Zelda and SMG, will it ever? The only chance it has is maybe the new Zelda in development. Other than that they will always knock it for inferior graphics and probably something stupid like "tacked on motion controls."

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#2 DiabeticDood
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I really don't think the Wii will ever have a game with a 10 rating. The closest I see it coming is 9.5, I highly doubt that even. Wii's good but not that good IMO.
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#3 Lord_Omikron666
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Don't know and don't care, if the game is good I play it. Simple as that.
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GS, the same site that gave Zelda TP the infamous 8.8 (if you needed to be reminded), has now given its second 10 in the last month. MGS may deserve a 10, i haven't played that game. GTA4 was good, but it wasn't too original nor did it advance the series very much imo- which is the same thing they knocked Zelda TP for.

my question is this- will the Wii ever get such a favorable rating? If it hasn't gotten it yet, with titles like Zelda and SMG, will it ever? The only chance it has is maybe the new Zelda in development. Other than that they will always knock it for inferior graphics and probably something stupid like "tacked on motion controls."

nakasa5
But the graphics are inferior and the motion controls are usually tacked on. I think that the Wii will get a 10 though because of this new rating system at GS in addition to the leaving/firing of all the great reviewers.
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#5 haziqonfire
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Probably not, who cares.

I play the game, not score.
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#6 hyrueprince11
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maybe with this new rating system would've been used when twilight princess was released and jeff didn't make that review twilight princess could've gotten a 10 and I'm not saying jeff is bad, it's just that he was the most demanding reviewer

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#7 nakasa5
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i don't get games soley based on reviews either, but they are a factor though. its just a travesty that a game like Galaxy or Zelda TP didn't get a 10.
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i don't get games soley based on reviews either, but they are a factor though. its just a travesty that a game like Galaxy or Zelda TP didn't get a 10.nakasa5

TP doesnt deserve a 10. The only Wii game that comes close is Super Mario Galaxy. It virtually has no flaws.
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#9 -Sigil-
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Probably not, who cares.

I play the game, not score.
Haziqonfire

Well said.

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I doubt it will ever happen. Every Wii game is a simplistic and broken set of mini games or a Mario rehash.TheXboxgamer73

Someone is biased and forgetting his logical fallacies.
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#12 X-Remnant
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If SMG didn't do it, then probably not...
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[QUOTE="nakasa5"]i don't get games soley based on reviews either, but they are a factor though. its just a travesty that a game like Galaxy or Zelda TP didn't get a 10.Haziqonfire

TP doesnt deserve a 10. The only Wii game that comes close is Super Mario Galaxy. It virtually has no flaws.

gta IV didn't deserve a 10 and look what it got, I can't say the same thing about mgs4 because I haven't pl;ayed it but I really doubt it deserves a 10

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#14 JAB991
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SMG and Spore are the 2 games that come to mind. Since SMG obviously didn't get a 10, Spore might be the Wii game to get do it. Also, if Sadness lives up to the hype Nibris is making. If it truly has 8 different endings and looks like a 360 game, then it might get a 10.
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#15 nakasa5
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[QUOTE="nakasa5"]i don't get games soley based on reviews either, but they are a factor though. its just a travesty that a game like Galaxy or Zelda TP didn't get a 10.Haziqonfire

TP doesnt deserve a 10. The only Wii game that comes close is Super Mario Galaxy. It virtually has no flaws.

perhaps...but by the same logic GTA didn't either. they have the same things wrong with them, imo. i also agree with the other posters that SMG had the best chance as any. the new Zelda will have a shot, but does any other title?

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#16 BaraChat
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It could. In my book the Wii already has a 10, even though it's a port (RE4). A ten, according to me, is quite possible but shouldn't be given to any game. I haven't played MGS4 or GTA4 (I will maybe one day, I'm thinking of buying a PS3) and I don't doubt their quality at all, even though I was surprised. According to me, Nintendo consoles already have a handful of 10s (Zelda OoT, Metroid Prime, RE4, GoldenEye, Super Mario 64 and first Zelda on NES(9.9 and 9.8 for some, rounded up to 10)) so it is a definite possibility that they can yet again repeat the feat.
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#17 Bobo4Cheese
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Hmm... Spore may, the Zelda probably has the best shot. I can already see Tales of Symphonia II getting a 9, so probably not that. Sadness may, I doubt the Conduit will. I think the third Pikmin might have a chance.
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#18 YearoftheSnake5
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Gamespot seems to like giving 10s lately. Maybe it's possible.
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#19 dragonball3900
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Mario Galaxy out ranks MGS4 by a huge margin on Gamerankings. That should speak for itself.

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#20 Dr_Corndog
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At the rate Gamespot's giving out 10s now, I'd say the Wii is due a perfect 10 in about two weeks.
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#21 da2730da
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No.

Now thats that.

Who want some icecream?

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#22 Bobo4Cheese
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No.

Now thats that.

Who want some icecream?

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And sprinkles!?!

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#23 nakasa5
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no thanks. i'd rather talk about the wii.
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#24 Erebyssial
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As long as Nintendo exists the chances of a 10 are always possible. I want the next one to be Kid Icarus, but the next Zelda will be built specifically for Wii so I'm guessing it'll be that if anything.
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#25 SethStrummer
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Galaxy has alot more time out than MGS4 and is also on a cheaper, more popular system.

But they are completely different games.

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#26 link_1000
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GS, the same site that gave Zelda TP the infamous 8.8 (if you needed to be reminded), has now given its second 10 in the last month. MGS may deserve a 10, i haven't played that game. GTA4 was good, but it wasn't too original nor did it advance the series very much imo- which is the same thing they knocked Zelda TP for.

my question is this- will the Wii ever get such a favorable rating? If it hasn't gotten it yet, with titles like Zelda and SMG, will it ever? The only chance it has is maybe the new Zelda in development. Other than that they will always knock it for inferior graphics and probably something stupid like "tacked on motion controls."

nakasa5

Probably not, since the wii has exhausted all of its good games for a while.

And you know that infamous 8.8? I thought they were crazy at the time; I have found out they were spot and right. Maybe their reasoning was wrong, but there are so many problems with it, ESPECIALLY to the zelda fan. 8.8 is a justifiable rating, maybe even lower. And I am surprised Brawl didn't get a 10, best game for wii...if that doesn't get it I don't what will.

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#27 meinink2y
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Gamespot is rough and often stupid, so maybe not. Obviously, there are Wii games that do deserve 10s (and get them from other sources), but really, scores don't matter.
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#28 Thiago26792
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Probably not.
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#29 ZumaJones07
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I bet the next zelda or mario will get it... seriously
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#30 piemanngamer
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I think so. The wii is a great system with a lot of potential and with all of the games coming up at E3 im sure a wii title will get a 10.
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#32 Djmaster214
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="nakasa5"]i don't get games soley based on reviews either, but they are a factor though. its just a travesty that a game like Galaxy or Zelda TP didn't get a 10.hyrueprince11


TP doesnt deserve a 10. The only Wii game that comes close is Super Mario Galaxy. It virtually has no flaws.

gta IV didn't deserve a 10 and look what it got, I can't say the same thing about mgs4 because I haven't pl;ayed it but I really doubt it deserves a 10

MGS4 deserves the 10 ,its hilarious to doubt it. gta on the other hand i would of given a 8 i got bored 50% through.
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#33 DannyRice
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Not on gamespot it won't.

...Bunch of 360 fanboys.

Fatkiwi

Exactly. While Gerstmann was here (in '06 especially), note that Gears of War and Elder Scrolls both got insanely high scores. Enlighten me: does anyone here still play Gears of War? I didn't think so, because if you love multiplayer, you're probably playing COD4 or SSBB. And from even the most devout lovers of Gears of War, everyone says it has an insanely short campaign.

And while I don't think Twilight Princess deserved a 10, it certainly earned a 9.0-9.5. Amazing game, but not perfect by a long shot. Metroid Prime 3 is another one that was underrated way, way too much by Gamespot. 8.5? Are you kidding? Maybe 9.5... While they gave No More Heroes a 9.0. And it had tons of blood... Maybe they add .5 to a score for blood.

By the new standards for a 10, Galaxy earned a 10 though. I couldn't find a flaw, and I went searching. The controller complaint is funny. If they can do better, I'd like them to prove it. No, I'd REALLY like them to prove it. The gravity set up in Galaxy more than made up for the fact the controls invert when you go upside down, which makes sense anyway. I agree with their Brawl review though. Great graphics, great music, great multiplayer, but as much of an improvement as Subspace Emissary was, single player still needs a lot of work.

Hopefully they've lightened up, because a lot of people set store on the reviews on sites like this. They can be critical, but they can't be biased. That's not fair to anyone. And I'm not biased. I haven't played GTA IV or MGS 4, and they may well deserve there 10's. But then they give Galaxy, Prime 3 and Twilight Princess all scores lower than they earned? Those were seriously some of the best works I've ever seen from Nintendo. I've been with the big N since the N64 years, btw. Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Metroid Prime 1, Wind Waker, and RE4 are the others up there. Not that they all deserve 10's, but that's an example imo.

Maybe they have lightened up. After all, they gave Galaxy Game of the Year. I think they're starting to collaborate with IGN, those scores are starting to be very similar. Together, those two would probably have a balanced, fair, objective opinion, if they aren't doing that yet.

So in other words, I think Gamespot's figuring things out, as is IGN, and they will, at some point, give a 10 to a Nintendo game. If they make another Mario for Wii (they should, but there was only one for N64 and the Cube), or with the next Zelda, Nintendo could get a 10. Conduit would have to do a lot better than I'm predicting to get a 10, but at least they're being serious about it. Fatal Frame has that chance, as do Spore and Sadness, but who knows. And more importantly, who cares? I agree with the sig I saw somewhere: when Gamespot gives a review, a puppy dies. I don't listen to Gamespot a whole lot when I'm looking for games.

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#34 King-gamer
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maybe with this new rating system would've been used when twilight princess was released and jeff didn't make that review twilight princess could've gotten a 10 and I'm not saying jeff is bad, it's just that he was the most demanding reviewer

hyrueprince11

Jeff is not a demanding reviewer, in fact a lot of facts he stated about twilight princess for Wii is true. the graphics are old, the sound is dated and too much reading... also he said that twilight princess did nothing different from the previous games which is also true and the motion controls are irresponsive. I like TP, but I agree with Jeff that it shoudn't even get a 9. But TP is still a game originally designed for the GC and the Wii came so they decided to make a version for the Wii.

And speaking of Metroid Prime 3, I feel that 8.5 was too low. a 9-9.5 would have been better. true that nothing much has changed other than controls, but the controls make MP3 so much easier to play and it is a great game though it does have some bad voices (but at least they added voices right?).

SMG is a fun and addictive game that could and should've gotten a 10.

And as for Gamespot overall, with all of the great reviewers gone, Jeff, Alex, Ryan Davis, Brad gone, GS seems to be giving a lot of 10s. I did not expect MGS4 and GTA4 to both get a 10. 2 games getting 10 in a year is really suprising. There could be a Wii title that may get a 10, but 6 months has passed and no great games have been officially announced for 2008. even if Kid Icarus, Pikmin 3, or a new Star Fox is announced at E3, Wii won't get them this year. Conduit and Disaster are also for next year, so if a Wii title is getting a 10, it won't be this year.

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#35 black_ice23
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I doubt it will ever happen. Every Wii game is a simplistic and broken set of mini games or a Mario rehash.TheXboxgamer73

and your playing the wii why? go back to your xbox

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Probably not, who cares.

I play the game, not score.
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#36 Nerd_Man
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Wii doesn't need to have 10, is that what you think Wii needs to score up with GTA4 or MGS4 on the other systems? Wii is already been getting a strong lineup of games, and a perfect 10 isn't what's gonna put the icing on the cake for it to be driven to success or satisfaction to the consumer.
Not saying it's not possible. It definitely is possible for a game to score a 10 on any system - MGS4 and GTA4, perfect example for 360 and PS3. But just don't bet your life on it that Wii will get one in the future, or any other 10 scores for any of the systems, for that matter.
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#37 Dark-Muse
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SMG deserved a 10. TP, maybe 9.2 (It was a brilliant game). MP 3 + 8.5 = WTF!? When Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon come out, there will definitely be a ten. Although, maybe not giving that the whole Gamespot team are Shooting/360 Fanboys.
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I'm going to be honest, I thought the 8.5 for MP3 was generous. It was fun, but terribly uneventful, even with the boss battles. Also, it's the same exact thing as the past two games, but with nicer graphics and a Wiimote. The only game that's been released so far that I can truly see getting a 10 is SMG. Twilight Princess didn't really have a chance because it was released when GS had the older rating system, back when a 10 meant something. I don't really believe that GS is comprised of any particlar type of fanboys either. It's not full of 360 fanboys because SMG won GOTY last year and because MGS4 got a 10. It's not full of PS3 fanboys because neither Ratchet nor Uncharted got a AAA score. It's not full of Wii fanboys because, well, that's obvious. It just comes down to the particular reviewer for each game and though each review is meant to speak for the opinion of the site, it's not necessarily true.

What actually really bugs me is how a game can receive a score of 10 and GS will still notice some negatives for the game (as is the case with both GTAIV and MGS4). It just shows how dumbed down the new system is that a game doesn't need to be a tru;ly perfect have the word "perfect" under its score.

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#39 skingus
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Galaxy deserved a 10 if GTA did. I have played both, and love both, and if we are all going by the same rules and standards, Galaxy did(actually more) for it's genre, just as much, if not more for it's genre than GTA4 did. It certainly introduced more game elements to the industry than GTA did. Also, it was perfect. Absolutely no flaws to speak of.
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#40 ms-fable
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It already has one... OoT but if vc doesn't count then no but I could see some 9.5-9.9
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#41 chickenscratch
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I've never judged a game by some tacked on numerical value based on someone else's opinion. There are plenty of tens in my book.
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#42 _Devastator
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No, but I agree with several posts, "Who cares?"

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#43 Le_twilight
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I'd like to see a Wii title get a 10. Of course, the rating is just an opinion.
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#44 ineedmoney555
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meh i look at more sites than gamespot anyway. games like SSBB SMG and MP3 have got 100 % on other sites
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#45 maverick_41
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I'm sayin the next StarFox/Kid Icarus. Since GTA4 was pretty much the same formula as the others and it got a 10, then I think that Kid Icarus will, if they make it right. That game will be nothing but innovation since the last game came out like 16 years ago. And Star Fox on the Wii, that deserves a 10 any day of the week. But since Gamespot never gives Wii games the credit they deserve, it'll never happen. GTA 4 got a 10 because the guy reviewing it got caught up in all of the hype, IDK bout MGS4. SMG and TP should have been a 10, and if Brawls online would have been better it would have gotten a 10 as well.

The Wii still has the BEST games though.:)

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#46 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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Gamespot classify a 10 now, as being the best it can possibly be, meaning that if a game is good enough, then yes, gamespot will give it a 10, regardless of how that game compares to AAAA games on other platforms. So long as it is as good as the system allows it to be.
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[QUOTE="nakasa5"]i don't get games soley based on reviews either, but they are a factor though. its just a travesty that a game like Galaxy or Zelda TP didn't get a 10.Haziqonfire

TP doesnt deserve a 10. The only Wii game that comes close is Super Mario Galaxy. It virtually has no flaws.

It has plenty of flaws. Everygame does.

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#48 Blue-Soul
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No it wont.

The games that got 10s really shouldn't have IMO.

I've not played MGS, but GTA IV is a 9.0 at best.

As for the Wii, no...It's just not as powerful as the others and that's why GS will never give it a 10, it has no hope
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#49 UltimateXShadow
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If some "epic" title is developed for the Wii, then maybe it will receive a "10" from GameSpot. But, I don't care.
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#50 HyruleanLink
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No it wont.

The games that got 10s really shouldn't have IMO.

I've not played MGS, but GTA IV is a 9.0 at best.

As for the Wii, no...It's just not as powerful as the others and that's why GS will never give it a 10, it has no hope
Blue-Soul
I honestly believe that power has nothing to do with it. Nintendo produced an awesome game such as SMG with stunting music graphics and gameplay. The Wii HAS the power, buy it is not the ulitmate factor. I do think that the Wii will receive a 10 in the future. I could care less that if it didn't. I play for me on what I enjoy, not a number.