Will there be a charge for online with the Wii U?

I am getting worried about charges coming with these new systems....

The 3DS is going to charge for extra DLC. I hope not a bunch of games are ran by DLC and online charges.

I see Dragon Quest X is a mmorpg and has a charge.

Any other charges? Was Monster Hunter Tri G free to play online?

A charge for the service no, but an MMO might have seperate fees

I hope they don't. I refuse to pay for online if I'm already paying to use the internet.

Btw, Monster Hunter Tri G (3DS) does not have online. Monster Hunter Tri (Wii) does have online. Monster Hunter Tri has an online fee, but the fee is exclusive to Japan.

I am getting worried about charges coming with these new systems....

The 3DS is going to charge for extra DLC. I hope not a bunch of games are ran by DLC and online charges.

I see Dragon Quest X is a mmorpg and has a charge.

Any other charges? Was Monster Hunter Tri G free to play online?

pacific90

The 3DS also provides free DLC. What you are thinking about is called Paid DLC, which every console has, some more than others.

And yes Monster Hunter Tri (no g involved since that is for the 3DS, also known as Monster Hunter 3G, and from what we know, it has no online at all, but then again none of the portable monster hunters have online. Though it will have local) is free to play online (with the exception of Japan).

And as for charging online just like you have to pay for gold membership on xbox live, it has yet to be revealed, but I doubt it.

A digital system is a constant source of revenue, look at MS and the dashboard which is one big ad, things like that covers cost. Not to mention charging in no way obligates them to have a superior system; all that creates is a situation where you decide if its worth paying for or not. Sepewrath

That's on MS and their myriad of other problems. But a digital system is a source of revenue, whether it can be maximized it or not is up to the company. And you know a good way to make a profit? Appeal to the consumers whims and desires. Customer service is such a basic concept lost on so many companies these days. Think about it like this, if every online system next gen is at cost, in this multiplat dominated market, then you are pressured to have hands down, the best online system. That constant competition will cost you more in the long run i.e. 360 at a loss. MS is forced to be ahead the curve with XBL, because their the only one charging for it.

Now if your system is free, you cant just make it crap, because people did have to buy the hardware and have to buy software as well, but you don't have to be the best. Because making it free, is good customer service, so people would be willing to put with it just being good. i.e. PSN. People always say PSN isn't as good as Live, but no one cares, because its free(well outside that hacking thing lol) You have to spend money to make money, because in a system your charging for, people will have even more whims and demands and you MUST answer those. Like Sony hasn't broken their neck to add cross game chat to the PS3 because no one is paying for PSN. They don't have to do anything.

I don't think Nintendo will charge for online next gen (3DS/Wii U). I think they have already said no.

What does DLC have to do with anything? It's optional stuff, you are never required to purchase DLC.

I would have said things were looking good at one point about this subject, until I saw what Nintendo plans to do with Fire Emblem for the 3DS...

Somewhere along the way, Nintendo's going to have to evaluate just how important its online services will be for its future, and I think that depending on just how committed Nintendo is to this cause, the likelyhood of seeing charges will change accordingly. Up until now, even in the midst of critisism of their attitude towards online services in the past, Nintendo hasn't really needed online gaming to remain a force. Heck, Mario Kart aside (which would have likely been successful even without online play), you really can't pinpoint any games or areas where online services for the DS and Wii have even been significant. However, if Nintendo's really intent on making its online services from here on out serious components to its systems, there's probably some wishful thinking to expect that things aren't going to come without some cost. Based on what we're already started to see on 3DS and with Dragon Quest X, it's looking more and more like Nintendo's becoming content with such an idea as charging for online access and content.

I would have said things were looking good at one point about this subject, until I saw what Nintendo plans to do with Fire Emblem for the 3DS...

Somewhere along the way, Nintendo's going to have to evaluate just how important its online services will be for its future, and I think that depending on just how committed Nintendo is to this cause, the likelyhood of seeing charges will change accordingly. Up until now, even in the midst of critisism of their attitude towards online services in the past, Nintendo hasn't really needed online gaming to remain a force. Heck, Mario Kart aside (which would have likely been successful even without online play), you really can't pinpoint any games or areas where online services for the DS and Wii have even been significant. However, if Nintendo's really intent on making its online services from here on out serious components to its systems, there's probably some wishful thinking to expect that things aren't going to come without some cost. Based on what we're already started to see on 3DS and with Dragon Quest X, it's looking more and more like Nintendo's becoming content with such an idea as charging for online access and content.

Madmangamer364

Whats happening with the Fire Emblem 3DS?

Dragon Quest X is a mmorpg, so you really can't say that applies to the whole. The PS3 and Xbox 360 both had mmorpg games you had to pay for.

PSN doesn't charge, but Xbox live does have a charge. But then again Xbox has alot more premiums like lots of demos, good customer service, and other nice things.

I think Nintendo will continue to remain in the affordable world. However, I am expecting to see these new systems cost more than usual. I think Wii was $200 when it came, so Wii U will probably be at $300. The 3DS is like $50 more I think than the original DS.

I hope not. As much as I love the organization and ease of using Xbox Live, I hate paying for it. I really hope the Wii U is like PSN and is free because I dont think I can pay for another online service. If they are going to charge it is going to be a big "either-or" situation between XBL or the Wii U's online and I do not think I can handle that.

Yeah I just talked to a Nintendo Rep and they said yes there will be a charge. Everytime you go online, you have to use the Vitality Sensor to Prick your finger and pay in BLOOD *Bowser Laugh* BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! nini200

Yeah I just talked to a Nintendo Rep and they said yes there will be a charge. Everytime you go online, you have to use the Vitality Sensor to Prick your finger and pay in BLOOD *Bowser Laugh* BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! nini200

Are you being sarcastic?

Dang. Read this:

http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_forums/showthread.php?184661-RUMOR-EA-to-supply-Wii-U-online-service

Supposely an EA intern leaked that EA, who also manages MS's online service, will also do it for the Wii U's online.

Shoot forget the Wii U because I am not going to pay for online service. 3DS is free.

i never play any Wii games online, so i doubt i'll pay to use Wii U online.

Dang. Read this:

http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_forums/showthread.php?184661-RUMOR-EA-to-supply-Wii-U-online-service

Supposely an EA intern leaked that EA, who also manages MS's online service, will also do it for the Wii U's online.

Shoot forget the Wii U because I am not going to pay for online service. 3DS is free.

pacific90

Also read this:

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-15-nintendo-not-interested-in-free-to-play

I also read that Nintendo pledged to not charge for DLC. Some one on here was saying Fire Emblem will charge for DLC, but I don't think that's true.

Third party developers ike Heroes of Ruin can charge though.

Also read this:

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-15-nintendo-not-interested-in-free-to-play

I also read that Nintendo pledged to not charge for DLC. Some one on here was saying Fire Emblem will charge for DLC, but I don't think that's true.

Third party developers ike Heroes of Ruin can charge though.

pacific90

Read the article again,

CEO Satoru Iwata told Wall Street Journal that he believed the microtransaction model devalues software in the eyes of the consumer and is unsustainable in the long run.

"We have no intention to provide a property to any other platform, or making them available in a mode that does not require consumers to pay at all," he said. "Nintendo is a company which is trying to maintain the overall value of video games.

"Of course, if Nintendo asks consumers to pay more money than the other platforms, then it's Nintendo's mission to provide the added value for which the people are willing to pay. In order to do that, we must remain unique and cannot be reproduced somewhere else. Something new, something fun and some surprise.

"If we were simply going to say okay, the only the way we could sell more products is by decreasing the price, then there wouldn't be a bright future and the entire industry will fold.

"I'm not interested in offering software for free of charge," he added. "That's because I myself am one of the game developers, who in the future wants to make efforts so the value of the software will be appreciated by the consumers."

Read the article again,

CEO Satoru Iwata told Wall Street Journal that he believed the microtransaction model devalues software in the eyes of the consumer and is unsustainable in the long run.

"We have no intention to provide a property to any other platform, or making them available in a mode that does not require consumers to pay at all," he said. "Nintendo is a company which is trying to maintain the overall value of video games.

"Of course, if Nintendo asks consumers to pay more money than the other platforms, then it's Nintendo's mission to provide the added value for which the people are willing to pay. In order to do that, we must remain unique and cannot be reproduced somewhere else. Something new, something fun and some surprise.

"If we were simply going to say okay, the only the way we could sell more products is by decreasing the price, then there wouldn't be a bright future and the entire industry will fold.

"I'm not interested in offering software for free of charge," he added. "That's because I myself am one of the game developers, who in the future wants to make efforts so the value of the software will be appreciated by the consumers."

pacific90

Fire Emblem will have DLC, which really doesn't mean much in regards to their stance to online. And yeah, charging for an online game, particularly in Japan also doesn't reflect anything. There has been no word on how DQ X will be handled abroad as there hasn't even been word if it will leave Japan. Its not the only game to charge an online fee solely in Japan, so that tells us nothing. Also like its been said, online is a huge part of the PSN package and its free, while I wouldn't be surprise to see something along the lines of PS+ down the line, I don't see Nintendo ever going the route of MS and putting essentially everything, including basic online play, behind a pay barrier. Sepewrath

It's just my opinion, but I think there is some significance to games like Fire Emblem and Dragon Quest, two games that have over the years been known as single player titles, having either online DLC that has to be purchased and/or requiring online access to be played (and possibly charging for it). I think that by itself, even without knowing the overseas effect on the matter is a big enough of a turnaround to pay attention to. Keep in mind that we are also talking about Nintendo here, a company that up until the 3DS, has been looking at online functionality as an afterthought, and perhaps rightfully so when considering the state of the Wii and DS for most of the gen without a widely popular online service. Unless they have found something truly revolutionary in regards to online gaming, which doesn't seem to be the case at the moment, it's likely that the company will be adapting the principles of everyone else in order to ensure that its online strategy becomes comparatively relevant.

Right now, it's the fact that Nintendo has been so much of a contrast in the online gaming department that makes even the few things we do know about their approach to this point a little bit shocking, as what's taking place isn't very different from what we're used to seeing out of this sort of thing at all. Granted, I also don't expect to see Nintendo go the way of Xbox live and charge for everything, including basic online access, but given what Nintendo's want to achieve with the Wii U at this point, it also wouldn't surprise me too much if they did. If Nintendo manages to see something positive out of charging for FE DLC and/or Dragon Quest X being a successful online game, I don't think that's going to discourage them from trying to the bar a bit further. As I said earlier, Nintendo's likely going to evaluate just how important online is for its future success and adjust accordingly. I don't think this much is that difficult to figure out.

Proof of paid DLC in FE:

http://segmentnext.com/2011/12/28/3ds-getting-paid-dlc-fire-emblem-first-in-the-lineup/

Also more proof:

"During a Q&A session at Nintendo's Tokyo earnings briefing on Friday, CEO Satoru Iwata shared some details on Nintendo's plans for digital downloads.

One investor asked Iwata about his thoughts on paid download content. Nintendo is currently preparing a paid item transaction system for both 3DS and Wii U, Iwata revealed. For 3DS, this will be available to developers by the end of the year.

Nintendo may be selective in its use of this system for itself, though. Iwata and Shigeru Miyamoto are interested in the possibility of extending the life of games through added stages and other features that players want. However, Iwata believes that pursuing certain types of low quality paid download content opportunities -- things like unlocking keys or stat increases -- would, while likely increasing short term profits, not allow them to build a long term relationship with customers. Therefor, Nintendo feels that it should not have this type of low quality content for itself.

Iwata also questioned the concept of free-to-play games, where you start playing the game for free and are charged for item purchases. He feels that this type of system would damage the premium value of Nintendo's content. --

Iwata's comments about Nintendo not doing paid download content was in reference to certain types of low quality content. He did not rule out Nintendo releasing paid download content in general, and even expressed interest in this area."

www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/.../3ds_wiiu_paid_downloads/