Worst Wii Game of the Year?

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#51 the_wet_mop
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Past the unplayable broken shovelware options?

For me it's a three way tie between Super Smash Bros, No More Heroes, and Okami

I'll think about it and narrow the list

Jaysonguy

you've got to be kidding me.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/adventure/lostinblueworkingtitle/index.html?tag=result;title;0

try this. it took me about 30 seconds to find, isnt shovelware (its the 3rd in its series) and is undeniably worse than the 3 aformentioned games. i dont think you're crazy though, i think you enjoy hating on popular games, its the "in" thing to do now.

if thats not enough, i pulled up the latest wii reviews.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/castlevaniajudgment/review.html

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/puzzle/ultimateband/review.html

heres just a couple of the latest wii games. i avoided the shovelware (kung fu panda) as apparently they're exempt from being horrible. next time think before you post.

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#52 the_wet_mop
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What's with all the hate for SSBB? It's a great game, has awesome control, loads of replay, great music, great graphics (any game that can look that good with so much going on at once and stay locked at 60fps is incredible). I hate it when people get ignorant about a good game..... kinda like what happened with Zelda TP. There's a reason this is one of the best selling Wii games out there!

Jaysonguy

It's not a great game, it's an average game.

The gameplay itself is dumbed down. Now that was going to combat the spammers but as I pointed out many times, button mashers ALWAYS have a character you can spam with. So the gameplay is weaker compared to other versions AND there's still spammers.

Nintendo went out of their way to make a lose/lose scenario there.

The story mode is one of the worst story modes we've seen this generation. Horribly disjointed and truly a chore to play through.

Online is improved by leaps and bounds from how it was at lunch but it's still broken and most users still feel the bite of broken in every single session they play.

The character list has been watered down with the additions of characters that serve no purpose. The idea of the game is that it caters to the core Nintendo player. Sonic and Snake just look like a desperate plea to buy the game even if it's not as good as previous versions. Too much of a cheap tactic rather then a solid addition.

The game's saving grace is the jukebox. That is the best part of the game having all of the Nintendo music on one disk.

For what the game promised it didn't even come close to fulfilling.

heres another fun one to disect!

1) you just deemed it worst game of the year, how could it be adverage?

2) button mashers have no chance in this game. trust me. if you were any good at it you wouldnt come close to losing to them.

3) one of the worst stories of this generation? do i need to make another list for you? just search ninjabread men, i guarantee you'll find a story with much less essence.

4) the online really isnt that great. you're pretty spot on here. but worst online play OF THE YEAR? i would make another list for this one, but im short on time.

5) while sonic is one of the worst charachters in the game, i still find snake a solid (no pun intended) addition. his mines, gernades, and rocketlauncher make for a different style of gameplay. snake is a draw for people to play the game, but that doesnt make him any less interesting to play.

6) first positive comment for you? yes, the music is pretty great.

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#53 garrett_duffman
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="umcommon"]

What's with all the hate for SSBB? It's a great game, has awesome control, loads of replay, great music, great graphics (any game that can look that good with so much going on at once and stay locked at 60fps is incredible). I hate it when people get ignorant about a good game..... kinda like what happened with Zelda TP. There's a reason this is one of the best selling Wii games out there!

the_wet_mop

It's not a great game, it's an average game.

The gameplay itself is dumbed down. Now that was going to combat the spammers but as I pointed out many times, button mashers ALWAYS have a character you can spam with. So the gameplay is weaker compared to other versions AND there's still spammers.

Nintendo went out of their way to make a lose/lose scenario there.

The story mode is one of the worst story modes we've seen this generation. Horribly disjointed and truly a chore to play through.

Online is improved by leaps and bounds from how it was at lunch but it's still broken and most users still feel the bite of broken in every single session they play.

The character list has been watered down with the additions of characters that serve no purpose. The idea of the game is that it caters to the core Nintendo player. Sonic and Snake just look like a desperate plea to buy the game even if it's not as good as previous versions. Too much of a cheap tactic rather then a solid addition.

The game's saving grace is the jukebox. That is the best part of the game having all of the Nintendo music on one disk.

For what the game promised it didn't even come close to fulfilling.

heres another fun one to disect!

1) you just deemed it worst game of the year, how could it be adverage?

2) button mashers have no chance in this game. trust me. if you were any good at it you wouldnt come close to losing to them.

3) one of the worst stories of this generation? do i need to make another list for you? just search ninjabread men, i guarantee you'll find a story with much less essence.

4) the online really isnt that great. you're pretty spot on here. but worst online play OF THE YEAR? i would make another list for this one, but im short on time.

5) while sonic is one of the worst charachters in the game, i still find snake a solid (no pun intended) addition. his mines, gernades, and rocketlauncher make for a different style of gameplay. snake is a draw for people to play the game, but that doesnt make him any less interesting to play.

6) first positive comment for you? yes, the music is pretty great.

1.its worst game of the year, and bad, in the sense that it was so hyped, and turned out to be very average. although there is no convincing the core nintendo fans, because they are too busy forcing themselves to believe they like it whether they do or not. 2.you shouldnt HAVE to be great to be able to play online. everyone there is either good or a spammer. assuming you dont chalk in 3 hours of gameplay a day you wont have much of a chance. 3. yea... worst story. i agree with jasonguy. no words, no real plot, just some bad guys sucking up good guys and such then ROB comes in and thats that... i really had to force myself to go on too. the fact that you unlock all of the characters after beating it doesnt add to the story either, it takes away from the game. 4. we all agree the online sucks. 5.that doesnt make him a gimmick? the whole point of a gimmick it to attract people who wouldnt normally be attracted to something.
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1.its worst game of the year, and bad, in the sense that it was so hyped, and turned out to be very average. although there is no convincing the core nintendo fans, because they are too busy forcing themselves to believe they like it whether they do or not.

2.you shouldnt HAVE to be great to be able to play online. everyone there is either good or a spammer. assuming you dont chalk in 3 hours of gameplay a day you wont have much of a chance.

3. yea... worst story. i agree with jasonguy. no words, no real plot, just some bad guys sucking up good guys and such then ROB comes in and thats that... i really had to force myself to go on too. the fact that you unlock all of the characters after beating it doesnt add to the story either, it takes away from the game.

4. we all agree the online sucks.

5.that doesnt make him a gimmick? the whole point of a gimmick it to attract people who wouldnt normally be attracted to something.garrett_duffman

your totally missing the point.

1. there is nothing adverage about the WORST game of the year. worst means worse than EVERYTHING else. everything. worst doesnt mean dissapointing. spore disspointed me as much as any game ever has. but it still isnt the worst game of the year.

2. unfortunately for casual players, you do need to be good to win online. although i dont think that should suprise you. when you play against other people you need to be good to win. i dont chalk in 3 hours a day. heck, i play once every couple weeks with friends now days and i dont succumb to stupid spammers.

3. once again. you dont seem to understand the word worst. i know you dont think there was nothing worse released for the wii all year. do you?

4. yea, ill skip this

5. who said anything about a gimmick? he said it was watered down by unneeded charachters. my argument was that while sonic is lacking, snake ADDS to the gameplay. ie, adds more gatorade to the mix, not more water.

ill leave you with one more note.

look it up. come back and tell me that not only brawl has a worse story, but is a worse game. im not arguing as a brawl fanboy here, but as someone tired of hearing people hate on games solely because other people like them.

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#55 Zweihand
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I was most disappointed with Smash Bros Brawl. I was told numerous times by my friends (who are Smash Bros fanboys) that Brawl was going to be much more hardcore and "more like a real fighting game" than its two faulty predecessors, then when I played Brawl I was saddened when it was just more of the same.

Dear Nintendo,

Health bars.

No knockouts.

Quarter-circle moves.

EX guages.

That's all I ask.

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#56 the_wet_mop
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I was most disappointed with Smash Bros Brawl. I was told numerous times by my friends (who are Smash Bros fanboys) that Brawl was going to be much more hardcore and "more like a real fighting game" than its two faulty predecessors, then when I played Brawl I was saddened when it was just more of the same.

Dear Nintendo,

Health bars.

No knockouts.

Quarter-circle moves.

EX guages.

That's all I ask.

Zweihand

dear nintendo. the same thing we're already playing. more of it. thanks.

sorry to say it, but brawl isnt exactly like the standard firghter.

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#57 Zweihand
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dear nintendo. the same thing we're already playing. more of it. thanks.

sorry to say it, but brawl isnt exactly like the standard firghter.

the_wet_mop
Sorry, but I'm all for a series evolving past its flaws. The original Guilty Gear for Playstation was actually rather mediocre, but Guilty Gear X was a huge step up, then GGXX brought in a lot of new gameplay additions, and it all just went uphill from there. Similar with the transition from Street Fighter 1 (horrible) to SF2 (god tier) and the Alpha series (godlier than god tier). Meanwhile, Smash just remains the same. I'd like to see it play like a real fighter game for once.
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#58 the_wet_mop
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[QUOTE="the_wet_mop"]

dear nintendo. the same thing we're already playing. more of it. thanks.

sorry to say it, but brawl isnt exactly like the standard firghter.

Zweihand

Sorry, but I'm all for a series evolving past its flaws. The original Guilty Gear for Playstation was actually rather mediocre, but Guilty Gear X was a huge step up, then GGXX brought in a lot of new gameplay additions, and it all just went uphill from there. Similar with the transition from Street Fighter 1 (horrible) to SF2 (god tier) and the Alpha series (godlier than god tier). Meanwhile, Smash just remains the same. I'd like to see it play like a real fighter game for once.

i can certainly see alot of room for brawl to improve. its not like im hailing it as GOTY. i just think brawl should improve in its own playstyle instead of coping out and going the traditional route. we already have plenty of games to play like those you described. they're a ton of fun, but why have them all that way?

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#59 Zweihand
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[QUOTE="Zweihand"][QUOTE="the_wet_mop"]

dear nintendo. the same thing we're already playing. more of it. thanks.

sorry to say it, but brawl isnt exactly like the standard firghter.

the_wet_mop

Sorry, but I'm all for a series evolving past its flaws. The original Guilty Gear for Playstation was actually rather mediocre, but Guilty Gear X was a huge step up, then GGXX brought in a lot of new gameplay additions, and it all just went uphill from there. Similar with the transition from Street Fighter 1 (horrible) to SF2 (god tier) and the Alpha series (godlier than god tier). Meanwhile, Smash just remains the same. I'd like to see it play like a real fighter game for once.

i can certainly see alot of room for brawl to improve. its not like im hailing it as GOTY. i just think brawl should improve in its own playstyle instead of coping out and going the traditional route. we already have plenty of games to play like those you described. they're a ton of fun, but why have them all that way?

I personally won't be able to enjoy Smash until it includes special moves like QCF/DPF/half-circle combinations, and implements an EX guage for Supers. I honestly can't take a fighting game seriously if "A" or "forward+A" is the button input for a fireball or other projectile. Smash's simplicity makes it the fighting game for people afraid of real fighting games, and by that, I mean "too slow on their thumbs to play a real fighter." ALL of the Smash Bros fans I know complain about conventional fighter games' special move inputs; "I can't remember them!" or "I can't put the commands in fast enough!" are among the most popular cries I've personally heard. It's sad.

I'm all for fighting games being different; there's A LOT of difference between conventional fighters alone. You can't play SF2 the way you play KoF, and you can't play GGXX the way you play SF2, and vice-versa. They share tried-and-true elements, that's all they have in common. Drastically different pacing sets them apart. I enjoyed Bushido Blade, because it tried something different and-- aside from some fun glitches-- it worked rather well.

Smash primarily doesn't grab me because, personally, I LIKE pressing down-forward-fierce to shoot a hadoken fireball, and I enjoy being forced to press forward-away-down-forward-fierce+kickto perform a Super Move which-- if it hits-- is devastating, while I've just wasted half of my EX guage if it happens to miss or is blocked. I guess some people don't like complexities, and prefer their most powerful attacks to be performed by simply pressing "A+A+A" or "up+B".

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#60 Jaysonguy
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I honestly can't take a fighting game seriously......

Zweihand

Found your problem, you're thinking that Smash Bros is a fighting game.

It's not, it's creator even said it's not a fighting game.

So see? You didn't know what the game was so you had problems with it. Now that you understand what kind of game it is you no longer have those problems.

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#61 Zweihand
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Found your problem, you're thinking that Smash Bros is a fighting game.

It's not, it's creator even said it's not a fighting game.

So see? You didn't know what the game was so you had problems with it. Now that you understand what kind of game it is you no longer have those problems.

Jaysonguy
What genre is it, then? That's like saying Halo isn't an FPS all because its gameplay elements are much weaker than other FPS's.
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

People think I'm crazy because I have geo political discussion with peanut butter sandwiches, it has nothing to do with games:P

Smash Bros was a very poor title considering it's lineage

Okami's art style and controls were compromised to make it play on next gen hardware, something that should have never been allowed.

No More Heroes is just....a mess. As Jordan said earlier this week "I like my games to be fun". I agree with Jordan

garrett_duffman

How was Brawl poor considerign it's lineage? It only added two less characters than melee and a ton more game modes. It was an increadible game. I think the reason a lot of people didn't like brawl is because of the unbelievable hype it recieved. It could never have lived up to the expectations most people had. Okamis contros where actualy improved because of the IR pointer, and the dodge move isn't a major thing. I admit the lessened paper filter is disapointing, but it's by no means a deal braker. Both of these games are awesome and should't even be considered for worst game of the year IMO. No more heroes, like i said, is questionable. But i wouldn't call it aweful.

brawl met 0 expectations. no skill required to unlock everything. is there a goal thats too hard for you to complete on your own? oh, use a hammer! wanna unlock all the characters easily? oh just beat the "story" mode! that game was a wrecking ball of de-evolution. melee reigns supreme.

brawl has problems considering its terrible gameplay and playing by yourself is a test of inner fortetude..WHATEVER!

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It's not, it's creator even said it's not a fighting game. So see? You didn't know what the game was so you had problems with it. Now that you understand what kind of game it is you no longer have those problems. Jaysonguy

I made a sandwich,but I don't want it to be called a sandwich.I officially name it a "stereo." I'm it's creator,so it can no longer be called a "sandwich." Same logic seems to work here quite nicely.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Found your problem, you're thinking that Smash Bros is a fighting game.

It's not, it's creator even said it's not a fighting game.

So see? You didn't know what the game was so you had problems with it. Now that you understand what kind of game it is you no longer have those problems.

Zweihand

What genre is it, then? That's like saying Halo isn't an FPS all because its gameplay elements are much weaker than other FPS's.

That's a bad analogy, Smash Bros has always played completely different to traditional fighters. It is a fighting game, just a unique one. Since when do all games in a certain genre have to have the exact same gameplay?

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#66 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Zweihand"]

I honestly can't take a fighting game seriously......

Found your problem, you're thinking that Smash Bros is a fighting game.

It's not, it's creator even said it's not a fighting game.

So see? You didn't know what the game was so you had problems with it. Now that you understand what kind of game it is you no longer have those problems.

That's just genre hallucinations. At times for me, SSB dosen't feel like a fighting game like say Soul Calibur or Street Fighter, but then I realized that if you're in an arena and you can't get out of bounds unless it's a ring out. It's a fighter. And there are multiple tyes of fighters such as sports fighters (wrestling and boxing for example), party fighters (Super Smash Bros.), etc.
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#67 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Zweihand"]

I honestly can't take a fighting game seriously......

nintendoboy16

Found your problem, you're thinking that Smash Bros is a fighting game.

It's not, it's creator even said it's not a fighting game.

So see? You didn't know what the game was so you had problems with it. Now that you understand what kind of game it is you no longer have those problems.

That's just genre hallucinations. At times for me, SSB dosen't feel like a fighting game like say Soul Calibur or Street Fighter, but then I realized that if you're in an arena and you can't get out of bounds unless it's a ring out. It's a fighter. And there are multiple tyes of fighters such as sports fighters (wrestling and boxing for example), party fighters (Super Smash Bros.), etc.

So you'd say marbles is a fighting game too? Since there's a ring, contestants of all kinds in that ring, and your main objective is to knock them out?

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#68 nintendoboy16
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So you'd say marbles is a fighting game too? Since there's a ring, contestants of all kinds in that ring, and your main objective is to knock them out?

Jaysonguy
It can be depending on the fighting game. In Brawl when you have it at Super Sudden Death mode, you're basically playing marbles with one hit K.O's. So in a way, it can be.
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#69 manziny
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i hope i dont offend anyone but to my gaming taste i think out of the big franchise Sonic Unleashed was a disappointment. The 2D SONIC ON MEGA DRIVE WAS AWESOME.
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#70 Junior_AIN
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Either Super Smash Bros. Brawl or Wii Music, both sucked.
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#71 Alkorz
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*SIGH* I dont get it...Super Smash Bros. I remember when I used to stay up all night and play it on my N64. I would invite friends over just to play that game. When they where coming I would practice so hard just to beat them. Where have all of the good memories gone? Super Smash Bros. is hands down the most dissapointing game for the Wii.I just dont understand why people love it so much.The N64 version was 20X better.