Would Wii get more respect if it was indeed HD?

We all know about the people who hated on the the little white blocksince day one, and we still see it now. It's been around for almost 3 years now, and now Sony/M$ introduced their latest try at what Nintendo gambled on. I'm happy for those people, because deep down on the inside... they had to be at least curious. Soon, they will be brought into the world of gaming, that we've already become somewhat accustom to, and I welcome them.

All and all, Wii has gotten alot of negative publicity... from gamers galore, and even developers. Mostly due to the "weird concept" of the controls, but a good majority has been from Nintendo's choice to not include hardware capible of HD resolutions.

So what do you think? Would Nintendo as a company, or even the idea of the Wii as whole... had been looked at differently if Nintendo did originally decide to go HD in the first place?

I honestly think that for the most part, it still would've received thesame amount of critisism. I think even if it would've competed on a graphical level, people would've still shunned the idea.

Yes. If the Wii was as powerful as the PS3 and 360, it wouldn't be the bud of as many System War jokes.

Yes, it would. A lof of the disrespect about HD isn't even about the pixels.. its about the great multiplats that the Wii misses out on because it can't compete in hardware.

You add Nintendo's awesome line-up with all of the great multiplats from this gen? Best library hands down.

In my opinion, nope. The DS has been considered a fad, the GameCube was often sought as "kiddy," and just about everything Nintendo does these days is treated like a crime by a lot of people. Simply put, Nintendo has had its share of doubters and critics since the 16-bit days, so I don't think anyone should expect that to change now. If the Wii had more power and the ability to go full HD, there's still the matter of the system's lineup, which isn't dominated by action games and shooters and the fact that it is still being bought by everyone that weren't considered approachable in the past. It's Nintendo's method and business practice that many people will simply hate; even if they go one way as an attempt to appease its doubters, they will look and find something else to hate on.

Personally, I couldn't care less at this point. Just about every excuse has been made in regards to the mistakes Nintendo has made in the past and the reason their systems are treated so. Seeing this year's E3, among other things in the past, has proven to me that Nintendo will never be able to get everyone's respect, despite what it does. Seeing as how the company is still doing extremely well and making great products, I see no reason to worry about the perception of the company from a lot of unappreciative people.

Yes. If the Wii was as powerful as the PS3 and 360, it wouldn't be the bud of as many System War jokes.

JAB991

wow the poll is 50/50 right now, i would say YES it would

Of course it would, and by this I take it you mean the outside community. The only other problem is the Wii doesn't get certain titles exclusive to the other system and with HD = more power I take it, this would also be solved. But I'm sure somehow the Ninty haters would still be out there shouting.

No, they'd still find fault and make a big issue out of it.

Im saying yes, even though I dont care for it. It would get people flocking to it twice as much, but, I think some people just might lose their hope with Nintendo. For example, when the DSi went multimedia, not alot of people went for that, or only considered once "my DS finally breaks." So, if Nintendo goes for it, I'll probably buy it only for the games.

No, haters will be haters and fanboys will be fanboys with or without HD

it will get more respect only when oversizes geckosget the system and casuals leave it behind...

Personally, I couldn't care less at this point. Just about every excuse has been made in regards to the mistakes Nintendo has made in the past and the reason their systems are treated so. Seeing this year's E3, among other things in the past, has proven to me that Nintendo will never be able to get everyone's respect, despite what it does. Seeing as how the company is still doing extremely well and making great products, I see no reason to worry about the perception of the company from a lot of unappreciative people.Madmangamer364

Agreed. Nintendo showed some great games during this year's E3 but people still complained to the point of nit-picking how boring the presentation was.

everyone always has a bone to pick with Nintendo. If Wii had HD, it would certainly gain more respect BUT gamers would find something else to tease around about it...DiscoLightBulb

Yes I think you're right. If Wii were HD it might garner more respect from those who have a genuine grudge against it not being HD but it would still get called the kiddy console, the one with all the shovelware for the soccer moms and the elderly by most of the posters on these forums. Unless it also brought over the fps multi-plats, which is something that I'm not sure would happen on a Nintendo console.

Yes, it would. But Iwouldn't find that very important.

No because it's a Nintendo console. The GameCube had similar power than the PS2 and Xbox and still it didn't have respect. No, the HD would not bring anything new. The Wii would still be considered as a kiddy console.

Nice question. I would have to say both Yes and No for specific reasons:

I say yes because more people would've been willing to try it out if the Wii would've been demoing Wii-Sports without Mii's but more detailed character models. That's a MAJOR TURN OFF to a bunch of people. They think that the Mii's are the best graphics that Nintendo has to offer and for good reason. They should know that it does indeed have much better graphics but they aren't willing to delve that deep into it due to the fact that they've been turned off by Wii-Sports. If they were to give the Wii a chance though, in most cases that I've seen personally, they have soooo much fun and smile like I never thought I'd see them smile. Believe me that's saying alot for some of my friends because these guys are beyond hood and speak the language of only Madden and Playstation. Seeing them smile, is like seeing Nate Dogg smile, incredibly low possibility of that happening.

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I say no because there will always be people that hate on a system because of whatever reason they can find and believe me, there are some people that only get enjoyment out of looking and searching deeply for stuff to say is wrong with a system just to try to make their system look better but then when someone does the same thing to their system, they try to defend it with their lives as if the system gave birth to them.

Yes. It probably would have been the better of the systems had it been made on par with the other two. I mean nintendo's games still would have sucked or been great (depending on your current opinnon on them) but they would have murdered in 3rd party and multiplat. Wii's hardware limitations are the only thing holding it back from having the best versions of all multiplat games. The ps360 version of Spiderman 3 with the wii controls plus the option to use the classic control would have made people with multiple systems flock to get the wii version of a game everytime. The wii wouldnt have even needed to be as powerfull as a 360 it would need to be just powerful enough for devs to make a ps3 360 and wii verison all the same. The price of the console would have had to be more expensive than current wii but not more expensive than a 360 arcade. Wiiware and VC could have still been possible and Nintendo could have still done their attack the causals plus they could have mad that their main focus because the core gamers would be playing all the great multiplat realses and they would have completle over thake the other two...but now its too late

but if it was HD, would the price be too much to break into the casual market? say if the Wii HD MSRP's at 400$ like the 360 or PS3 when they released? the causals are what lead to the success of the Wii and WiiFit. would they have been willing to drop 400$ on a wii sports machine?

Of Course! But at the same time it isn't just HD that makes people hate it...it's also the online play is nothing compared to that of the 360 (never played the PS3 Online soI wouldn't know)!Also is the fact that a lot of Nintendo haters simply don't give Mario a chance! A lot of them probably no close to nothing about zelda! And all of them probably know nothing of Metroid! The things is, Nintendo has gained a rep that some people are too stubborn to test out for themselves! Or if they do give something like Mario a chance, a lot of times their head is so clouded that it is "childish"they don't even see the good gameplay when they try it! So even though HD would be a big thing...it's not the only thing!

there are just 2 main things the wii gets made fun of for

the crap graphics

and all the crap 3rd party games out there

No, it wouldnt. For two reasons - the first is hypocracy. People were happy enough that the PS2 appealed to a non-hardcore demographic, but not Nintendo's consoles. Perhaps the Wii is being more deliberate aboutit, but its not like games similar to Petz didnt already exist before the Wii.Both systems have their hardcore games but only one is universally derided by arrogant, self-important fanboys that think because their console is catered to a minority that they are special. The second reasonis that we would still be hearing about 'teh poor third party supportz', and nonsense excuses like 'third partayz cant suckseed on dis platformz'or 'teh sheepies only buy Nintendo'. These phrases have been heard since the Gamecube launched, and they arent going away in a hurry. Accusations of being 'kiddy' have merely been supplanted by the dreaded "c" word, casual.

but if it was HD, would the price be too much to break into the casual market? say if the Wii HD MSRP's at 400$ like the 360 or PS3 when they released? the causals are what lead to the success of the Wii and WiiFit. would they have been willing to drop 400$ on a wii sports machine?

primitive013

Not only would the price had been too high for many of those that have made the Wii successful, it would have been a much harder sell to those who criticize the Wii now, especially if the same lineup of exclusive titles existed or even became fewer (which would have been likely). Chances are that the Wii would have only sold to the most enthusiastic of Nintendo's fans and would be in a worse shape than the GameCube was.

Truth be told, I also don't get where all of this talk about the Wii having more multi-platform games equaling more respect. Multi-plats don't sell game systems, first of all. Why bother with one system when you can get the same games on a system you already have? Exclusives are what makes a system most appealing, and one can say that the Wii is in a better shape in that regard because developers can't simply port a game over to it and expect success. Secondly, it feels as if most people here didn't see what the GameCube went through, as that system had a history of missing out on a number of multi-platform games. Even back then, developers sometimes found that porting games over to a Nintendo system wasn't working out enough to be worth the effort. With a more expensive system and higher development costs, does anyone truly think that if the Wii had the capabilities of the other two systems, developers would be more comfortable porting over games, especially if the sales of those titles simply weren't enough to justify doing so?

Just one gamer's two cents, obviously, but I truly believe that the Wii is successful as it is right now in large part because Nintendo didn't feel the need to compete with the other systems in every area, especially when it comes to the power of the system.

wow, I'm surprised by all the "yes" responses.

I find it strange that people believe it would receive more respect when after all, it is Nintendo. I honestly think that if Nintendo would've even went with hardware capable of 720p, along with better AI, etc. it still would've sold rather well (if the price was around $300-$350), but still received down-talk from developers/hobbiests. I wouldn't it expect it to have sold like it has now, but still rather well just because of the idea.

We all know about the people who hated on the the little white blocksince day one, and we still see it now. It's been around for almost 3 years now, and now Sony/M$ introduced their latest try at what Nintendo gambled on. I'm happy for those people, because deep down on the inside... they had to be at least curious. Soon, they will be brought into the world of gaming, that we've already become somewhat accustom to, and I welcome them.

All and all, Wii has gotten alot of negative publicity... from gamers galore, and even developers. Mostly due to the "weird concept" of the controls, but a good majority has been from Nintendo's choice to not include hardware capible of HD resolutions.

So what do you think? Would Nintendo as a company, or even the idea of the Wii as whole... had been looked at differently if Nintendo did originally decide to go HD in the first place?

I honestly think that for the most part, it still would've received thesame amount of critisism. I think even if it would've competed on a graphical level, people would've still shunned the idea.

danger_ranger95

no, not at all. i mean, i couldn't care less about what others think about the wii's graphic abilities. what is important is that i enjoy it the way it is.

wow, I'm surprised by all the "yes" responses.

danger_ranger95

Nope, the haters would still be at it no matter how advanced the Wii got.

I think a few of you took what I meant, the wrong way. :P

I'm not personally saying I disrespect Nintendo's decision, nor am I saying HD is everything. It doesn't matter to me personally if people care for the Wii or not, and I'm happy with my purchase.

I'm just curious to see if you guys agree/disagree with that, I doubt certain developers/hobbiests (people who play games more than casually) would view Wii differently if it had HD capabilities. Sorry if my wording was incorrect.

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wow, I'm surprised by all the "yes" responses.

ZumaJones07

The GC was on par with last gen consoles, and it didn't get respect from nay-sayers, nor hobbiests. If the Wii competed on a graphical level (just like the GC did last gen), would people still bash it.... is what I'm saying.

People bash Nintendo consoles for no apparent reasons at all sometimes, like a few above have mentioned.I guess I should have worded it differently.

The GC was on par with last gen consoles, and it didn't get respect from nay-sayers, nor hobbiests. If the Wii competed on a graphical level (just like the GC did last gen), would people still bash it.... is what I'm saying.

People bash Nintendo consoles for no apparent reasons at all sometimes, like a few above have mentioned.I guess I should have worded it differently.

danger_ranger95

No.

It would get a lot of hate because of motion controls making it difficult for third parties to make better games.

Others would also find its library that isn't completely FPS's absurd.

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The GC was on par with last gen consoles, and it didn't get respect from nay-sayers, nor hobbiests. If the Wii competed on a graphical level (just like the GC did last gen), would people still bash it.... is what I'm saying.

People bash Nintendo consoles for no apparent reasons at all sometimes, like a few above have mentioned.I guess I should have worded it differently.

ZumaJones07

And the answer is yes. There would still be those who bash it for it's casual/kiddie/grandpa feel, but the ones who would normally bash it for visuals would respect it if it had HD. Those few people are the "more" people. No one ever complained about the GC's graphics because they were on par with the rest and in one case, better. It had respect in the visual department. People hated it because of other reasons.

lol I know that's what I'm saying.I brought theGC up because it was on the same level of the others last time around(a little better, or a little worse). Sales/support had nothing to do with it. When pushed, GC offered good looking visuals... but itstill received negative comments.

Along with what you said, you still think even if Wii was HD (whichwould becurrent tech graphics wise, just like the GC was last gen), people would give it respect? I still don't thinkit would. It would be considered a Nintendo (HD) console, with weird controls. (at least when it was first announced)

No. I think is Nintendo's focus what makes the Wii to lose respect. Wii Sports in HD would still be considered a casual title, as well as every other game, labeling the Wii as so.

No. I think is Nintendo's focus what makes the Wii to lose respect. Wii Sports in HD would still be considered a casual title, as well as every other game, labeling the Wii as so.

Thiago26792