Hey all. Wii U is out next year and cant wait. Would you be happy with the prices above and would it be a wise move for Nintendo to do this.?
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Hey all. Wii U is out next year and cant wait. Would you be happy with the prices above and would it be a wise move for Nintendo to do this.?
Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
I thought the Wii U was 50% more powerful then the ps3 and current gen consoles. I would of thought the Wii U would be like a ps2. Being the weakest in terms of graphics and power but still producing the same games. So surely when the new xbox and playstation comes out the Wii U should have most of the same games??Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]I thought the Wii U was 50% more powerful then the ps3 and current gen consoles. I would of thought the Wii U would be like a ps2. Being the weakest in terms of graphics and power but still producing the same games. So surely when the new xbox and playstation comes out the Wii U should have most of the same games??Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
gary3dsfan
Unless they have a really strong ( I mean something that will make people go WOW!! - for me it was that Zelda tech demo graphics that made me gooey) line up at launch..since they will be competing against already well establish systems, & unless you can see the difference in graphics quality between the competing systems putting up a high price at launch will be a repeat of 3DS.
It's not going to happen. I think Nintendo has already learned from the 3DS. It will be $350 at the most but my guess is $299
I'm willing to pay anywhere from $300 to $380. Nintendo said during GameCube's generation that their systems wouldn't cost over $300, and with 3DS dropping by $80, I think Nintendo has learned that they need to price their systems smarter.
What made Wii sell like hotcakes was it's low price compared to the HD consoles at the time (PS3 cost $600 and Xbox360 cost $400 at their launches), but what also made Wii sales slow down is: lack of many multi-plat games (long droughts also a side effect of that) and lack of HD (which is now mandatory). Both an effect of going with such old tech just to keep price down.
Nintendo will need to be careful this/next generation when choosing the price and power of Wii U or they'll be left behind by many Gamers and Developers ... again.
Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
Jaysonguy
Extremely overpriced for tech we don't even know that's in it? Jason never ceases to amuse with absurd statements :lol:
They're gonna finish the next gen next year? Shortest generation ever confirmed?
I'd buy it at $400. As long as there's gonna be another dark-themed Zelda such as MM or TP, my body will be so ready.
If the Wii U is not at most $300 at launch, I will just wait for a price cut. I will no longer buy any home console that costs more than $300 for now on even if it is the most powerful of its generation.
Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
Jaysonguy
Power 7 is one year old, the 4800 series is about 2. Not 5, like you say.
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]I thought the Wii U was 50% more powerful then the ps3 and current gen consoles. I would of thought the Wii U would be like a ps2. Being the weakest in terms of graphics and power but still producing the same games. So surely when the new xbox and playstation comes out the Wii U should have most of the same games??Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
gary3dsfan
I've heard PC gamers talk as though it is four times as powerful... as in 400%. It has a shot at being a true next-gen console. If it doesn't, it'll flop after 2 years and just be a stop gap.
More on topic, I'd be pleased at around $300, but I vowed not to buy any new hardware until 2014.
I thought the Wii U was 50% more powerful then the ps3 and current gen consoles. I would of thought the Wii U would be like a ps2. Being the weakest in terms of graphics and power but still producing the same games. So surely when the new xbox and playstation comes out the Wii U should have most of the same games??[QUOTE="gary3dsfan"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
Nozizaki
I've heard PC gamers talk as though it is four times as powerful... as in 400%. It has a shot at being a true next-gen console. If it doesn't, it'll flop after 2 years and just be a stop gap.
More on topic, I'd be pleased at around $300, but I vowed not to buy any new hardware until 2014.
If the rumoured specs, a IBM power 7 (probably 4 core) and Radeon 700 are true, then it's in the range of 4-8 times as powerful (hard to say until you actually know what's in it) as the 360/PS3, which is basically a generational leap. However, the PS4 will probably be in the 10-15 times as powerful range when they come out.
If their willing to sell the 3DS at a lost, I would imagine they would do the same for the Wii U out the gate. Sepewrath
Half of me is an agreement of your comment. Nintendo has already felt the sting of selling hardware at a less-than-appealing pricepoint, so it's only logical that they be more careful this time around. On the other hand, the other half of me is thinking, "If Nintendo's already selling its portable system at a loss, can they really afford to do the same thing with its console?" First and foremost, we simply don't know how much it's costing to not only produce the Wii U itself, but the Wii U tablet and whatever else it may have going for it. If Iwata has already said that the system "is not going to be cheap," it isn't crazy to think that it's going be more than a $50 increase over what the "affordable" Wii sold for at launch.
All of this said, $400 for the Wii U would be suicide. I think Nintendo's very much aware of that much at the moment, so I'm not seeing it costing THAT much.
And as for the actual topic at hand, forget about it! Nintendo will have a challenging enough of a time selling me the Wii U at $300 at this point.
Well they can certainly afford to sell things at a lost, they simply choose not to, because they could get away with it. Lets not forget, no console maker, makes more money from software than Nintendo, they can better balance a hardware lose. They just don't do it. I don't think the console itself will be very expensive, what is the cheapest 360 selling for now, like $170? They system itself is probably not going to break the bank, they might have to take a lost on the controllers, their probably more expensive than the console. I could see them going in at 300, that's a good, competitive price point, they could probably get into the cheaper mass production before their competitors consoles come out too.Half of me is an agreement of your comment. Nintendo has already felt the sting of selling hardware at a less-than-appealing pricepoint, so it's only logical that they be more careful this time around. On the other hand, the other half of me is thinking, "If Nintendo's already selling its portable system at a loss, can they really afford to do the same thing with its console?" First and foremost, we simply don't know how much it's costing to not only produce the Wii U itself, but the Wii U tablet and whatever else it may have going for it. If Iwata has already said that the system "is not going to be cheap," it isn't crazy to think that it's going be more than a $50 increase over what the "affordable" Wii sold for at launch.
All of this said, $400 for the Wii U would be suicide. I think Nintendo's very much aware of that much at the moment, so I'm not seeing it costing THAT much.
And as for the actual topic at hand, forget about it! Nintendo will have a challenging enough of a time selling me the Wii U at $300 at this point.
Madmangamer364
Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
Jaysonguy
Look, its worth the money to people or it isn't. Simple as that. If a person can justify the cost of a launch product then that price is fine. I am totally cool with my $250 3DS
The Wii is looking likely to have at least 50% more powerful hardware than current gen consoles, and a great new controller with new gameplay innovations
Some might say Nintendo is pulling a Wii again, having the tech not be TOO mind blowing incase the controller doesn't catch on.
I'm fully expecting, and willing to pay $350.
Infact, wasn't the N64 $199, then the Cube $199, and the Wii $249? So I mean $299 really isn't that unreasonable.
I just hope maybe when you buy a Wii U, if you do Jaysonguy that you give the good old Super Mario Galaxy 2 a real try so you can see that green hills may be purple but they're still awesome.
I think it really also depends on the prices of current gen consoles and next gen consoles
If there is next gen consoles from the other companies in Late 2012 (Not likely) priced near $399, then Nintendo could get away with that.
If the current gen consoles are still on the market and are priced $199-$249 I think Nintendo will aim for $299, but if they're still at their current $299 price point then I really think they will go with $349
I think that's a completely fair price and would absolutely pay it. It could certainly be in the $300 to $350 range as well, but if it goes down as $400 I'm completely okay with it. Have you seen that controller?!?! Win.
not going to be that high if they dropped 3ds to 169 lol the wiiu will most likely be 269-300 , but not any higher then that
I was lurking gaf recently, and an insider stated that early Wii-U devkits were based on an off the shelf RV770LE. Thats not half a decade old tech. that chip debuted 2-3 years ago, and runs circles around the RSX and Xenos. The thread went on, and another insider stated that the final chips would be totally custom, and only share a few things in common with the RV770LE. The final silicon could be even more powerful. My point is, the Wii-U is not going to be another Wii. It is much more modern. it may not be bleeding edge, but in the interest of keeping the price of the console down and the the price of the games as well, I think nintendo is wise to keep the capabilities of the system reasonable. I think 300 is a good price.Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
Jaysonguy
Extremely overpriced for tech that's half a decade old, it will be another 3DS situation and Nintendo will be back on Japanese TV apologizing for releasing tech for that price
I expect 249.99 straight from the gate, that helps Nintendo finish this generation strong
Jaysonguy
In terms of price, I'd have to agree with you. $249.99. Tops $299.99. Anymore than that is bound to go wrong.
I wouldn't be happy with it. I'd wait for a price drop. I don't like paying more than $200 for a new console, and even then, I'm cautious about it. I would be OK with $250 if it had enough games I'd be interested in playing at launch. Otherwise, I'll stick to what I already have for now. No sense rushing things.
Well they can certainly afford to sell things at a lost, they simply choose not to, because they could get away with it. Lets not forget, no console maker, makes more money from software than Nintendo, they can better balance a hardware lose. They just don't do it. I don't think the console itself will be very expensive, what is the cheapest 360 selling for now, like $170? They system itself is probably not going to break the bank, they might have to take a lost on the controllers, their probably more expensive than the console. I could see them going in at 300, that's a good, competitive price point, they could probably get into the cheaper mass production before their competitors consoles come out too. Sepewrath
I'm not sure if it's a smart move for Nintendo to follow the direction of the other hardware makers, though. Out of the three at the time, Nintendo's the only one that has video games as its primary source of revenue. The other companies can afford years of revenue loss on hardware because it has other source of income to make up for it, but not so much Nintendo. The one thing Nintendo has going for it would be the success of its previous systems, but on top of R&D costs, game development, and whatever other business-related areas that have to be financially invested into, I just don't think Nintendo's in the same spot to be bleeding money from making gaming systems as everyone else.
When it comes to the pricing, the Wii U's lack of HDD and DVD/Blu-Ray playback should be of some help. That aside, we're still talking about a new console here, and it does takes time to get to the point where mass production becomes easier on the wallet. Keep in mind that Nintendo's following a model that took everyone else years to get out of the 'red' with, and while the costs of making such hardware may be easier to manage now than it was 5/6 years ago, that doesn't make it cheap, per se, especially once you start throwing additional hardware, consoles, and such to that mix. On top of that, the Wii U still has to become successful, and most likely out of the gate, in order for Nintendo to feel some relief. This is just one person's opinion, but I think Nintendo's going to have a more difficult time finding a balance between creating a system that's efficient to their model and consumer-friendly in price than most people want to believe.
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