WOW!!! Conduit 2 looks freaking amazing

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

So?

I don't care about how a game has improved; I care about whether or not it's actually good. This is the real world here, not some school assignment; people do not get points for effort. I can play tons of great FPS games elsewhere; why would I be interested in this one? I mean this is exactly what happened with the first one - people were all like, "Oh, well, they're trying so hard," and back then I also was saying, "So what?" Unless someone has a family member or a friend working at their development studio, I don't see why people care whether or not they're trying hard.

Tri-Enforcer

I can play tons of great Platformer games elsewhere; why would I be interested in Super Meat Boy?

The First Conduit Game I was pumped for because it looked like something I didn't see on the Wii before and I wanted an FPS for the Wii.

I got it, Campaign was ok but Online was a blast, not only that but The Conduit also had Voice Chat Support, a feature that is rare on the Wii. If only it wasn't restricted to friend codes which btw in Conduit 2 Voice Chat is not restricted.

Conduit 2 has some major improvements from the 1st game, am I the only one that sees that?

I see it and aware of it!

Nobody's really reading previews...their just watching small video snippets that someone posts and judge from their. No one's really researching. There's even a nice preview right on GS, but u can't tell judging from these comments.

People don't usually base opinions on game content they can't see or play. That would be ridiculous.

On topic, the only thing that looks good is the graphics, but it's hardly amazing.

[QUOTE="nini200"]

After watching those 4 videos, I have questions.

1. I hope that blur effect when reloading can be disabled like in the first. I mean really, you don't get blurry when you reload. I wonder who thought that up.

2. The framerate in multiplayer, is it really that slow or was it just my computer?

3. It seems like Mr. Ford is darn near unkillable in this one. My guess is that it had to be on easy because anyone that played the first one would know for one, the submachinegun is useless even though they may have tweaked it on this one and 2,if you get hit by that many Strikerifle Shots you are beyond dead. I played on the hardest difficulty on the first one so I guess I'm used to getting slayed in around 3 shots if by the right gun. And there is NO WAY I would've traded the Shotgun or Strike Rifle for that Submachine gun.

Other than that, the game looks good. I will be getting it either way.

psychobrew

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="nini200"]

After watching those 4 videos, I have questions.

1. I hope that blur effect when reloading can be disabled like in the first. I mean really, you don't get blurry when you reload. I wonder who thought that up.

2. The framerate in multiplayer, is it really that slow or was it just my computer?

3. It seems like Mr. Ford is darn near unkillable in this one. My guess is that it had to be on easy because anyone that played the first one would know for one, the submachinegun is useless even though they may have tweaked it on this one and 2,if you get hit by that many Strikerifle Shots you are beyond dead. I played on the hardest difficulty on the first one so I guess I'm used to getting slayed in around 3 shots if by the right gun. And there is NO WAY I would've traded the Shotgun or Strike Rifle for that Submachine gun.

Other than that, the game looks good. I will be getting it either way.

nini200

Well I think the idea is that in real life, if you're reloading your gun, you're not going to be watching what's going on in front of you at the same time, since normally you're actually actively mentally engaged in, you know, reloading your gun. :P

*watches one video*

"Okay it doesn't look like an N64 game anymore, it's looking aight."

*watches the split screen video*

"Oh my god what the **** is this?"

In summary it still doesn't impress me.

[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] The blur effect -- nobody can reload and look around the room at the same time. It's a great effect. The frame rate -- I didn't notice anything odd, but it could be a number of things (the video itself could have been recorded at a slow frame rate). Still, don't expect anything over 30 FPS. It was likely a presentation build with low enemy AI and invincibility.GabuEx

Well I think the idea is that in real life, if you're reloading your gun, you're not going to be watching what's going on in front of you at the same time, since normally you're actually actively mentally engaged in, you know, reloading your gun. :P

Damn the game for trying to be too real :P

Looks like the visuals and controls have been improved.

But why is it that enemies seem to run into the open and stand still while shooting? Why is it that the Level Design looks lackluster, or dated?

I don't expect this game to exceed the Almost Perfect Wii FPS known as Goldeneye 007, which is for the Wii what I thought the Conduit was suppost to be. I still think there is a chance that it will be more than good, but not all that great. I hope the Co-op mode is as fun as Nazi Zombies, if it is, then this game is a buy for me.

After watching those 4 videos, I have questions.

1. I hope that blur effect when reloading can be disabled like in the first. I mean really, you don't get blurry when you reload. I wonder who thought that up.

2. The framerate in multiplayer, is it really that slow or was it just my computer?

3. It seems like Mr. Ford is darn near unkillable in this one. My guess is that it had to be on easy because anyone that played the first one would know for one, the submachinegun is useless even though they may have tweaked it on this one and 2,if you get hit by that many Strikerifle Shots you are beyond dead. I played on the hardest difficulty on the first one so I guess I'm used to getting slayed in around 3 shots if by the right gun. And there is NO WAY I would've traded the Shotgun or Strike Rifle for that Submachine gun.

Other than that, the game looks good. I will be getting it either way.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

So?

I don't care about how a game has improved; I care about whether or not it's actually good. This is the real world here, not some school assignment; people do not get points for effort. I can play tons of great FPS games elsewhere; why would I be interested in this one? I mean this is exactly what happened with the first one - people were all like, "Oh, well, they're trying so hard," and back then I also was saying, "So what?" Unless someone has a family member or a friend working at their development studio, I don't see why people care whether or not they're trying hard.

GabuEx

I can play tons of great Platformer games elsewhere; why would I be interested in Super Meat Boy?

The First Conduit Game I was pumped for because it looked like something I didn't see on the Wii before and I wanted an FPS for the Wii.

I got it, Campaign was ok but Online was a blast, not only that but The Conduit also had Voice Chat Support, a feature that is rare on the Wii. If only it wasn't restricted to friend codes which btw in Conduit 2 Voice Chat is not restricted.

Conduit 2 has some major improvements from the 1st game, am I the only one that sees that?

Keyword "great". You yourself just admitted that this game looks average. Why would I be interested in an average FPS when I can play great FPSes elsewhere?

I mean every single point listed thus far for the Conduit has been in FPSes for a long time. As I said before, I'm getting the sense that people are looking forward to the Conduit purely because they aren't able to play better FPSes elsewhere, which is kinda sad, really.

Sad? What is this? Titanic? As for the unimpressed people, you guys wouldn't get impressed anyways.

LastRambo341

Wouldn't get impressed if... what?

I've been impressed by tons of games before. Heck, I'm usually a pushover who likes games that other people don't.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

Sad? What is this? Titanic? As for the unimpressed people, you guys wouldn't get impressed anyways.

Wouldn't get impressed if... what?

I've been impressed by tons of games before. Heck, I'm usually a pushover who likes games that other people don't.

*sees positive post from haz* :shock: ok now i'm curious. *opens links* the guy not only is the one that voices the duke, but he uses the same voice :P and alien baby cry when you switch to the alien weapon and sodomize (is this word moddable?) it... creepy >.> graphics are good, as expected. multiplayer loses quite a bit in graphics and framerate, but nothing unbearable. turning tables to create cover sounds like something nice... once the AI is improved. the guy was basically standing still in open fire and wouldn't get shot. i have to agree with haz, i'm surprised. if this turns out any good, it might be the Wii FPS i've been wanting to own.BrunoBRS

I think more or less I see it as being more polished then the first, which is why I'm surprised.

I still think it shares some of the same faults as the original -- such as it still having an identity crisis.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

Sad? What is this? Titanic? As for the unimpressed people, you guys wouldn't get impressed anyways.

LastRambo341

Wouldn't get impressed if... what?

I've been impressed by tons of games before. Heck, I'm usually a pushover who likes games that other people don't.

And I have a feeling, those hyping this so much, are treating HVS like their own child and praising their work, no matter how crap or average it looks.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Wouldn't get impressed if... what?

I've been impressed by tons of games before. Heck, I'm usually a pushover who likes games that other people don't.

And I have a feeling, those hyping this so much, are treating HVS like their own child and praising their work, no matter how crap or average it looks.

I think the The Conduit franchise missed it's mark.

It was OK to release a game like this 2 years ago as the Wii barely had any games lke this and it seemed OK on paper. Right now though I can't really find a reasons why you should choose this game above Goldeneye, Metroid Prime Trilogy or any of the major CoD releases that the Wii has gotten. The only reason would be if FPS is your favourite franchise but if that's the case I think you bought the wrong console.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] I have a feeling yo, Jasonguy, Wiifan and that other guy have some sort of feud with HVSLastRambo341

And I have a feeling, those hyping this so much, are treating HVS like their own child and praising their work, no matter how crap or average it looks.

Yeah give credit where credit is due, but that havent done anything to earn any credit, all they have done is make empty promises and havent shown anything to back up how they hype this game. So they say they are really trying and putting what is to be believed to be effort, bid deal. Nothing about this game screams effort has been put in, it looks just like the first game but only a bit nicer to look at. When they start showing gameplay that looks like effort has been put in, then I may join this hype bandwagon but as it looks its another mediocre FPS.

I give credit where its due and admire their effort. Theres nothing wrong with that.LastRambo341

I can do that as well.

When it comes to actually putting my money on a game though it's a whole other business. There are a lot more and better devs that has done much better jobs on the Wii that deserves my money more.

I think the The Conduit franchise missed it's mark.

It was OK to release a game like this 2 years ago as the Wii barely had any games lke this and it seemed OK on paper. Right now though I can't really find a reasons why you should choose this game above Goldeneye, Metroid Prime Trilogy or any of the major CoD releases that the Wii has gotten. The only reason would be if FPS is your favourite franchise but if that's the case I think you bought the wrong console.

JLF1

Conduit 2 isn't even out yet and we haven't seen all that it has to offer. It's waaaay to early to draw a conclusion about it. We've read in previews that it's additions are substantial over the original and we've read about improvements. I think everyone is getting bent out of shape over a few small snippets of early Conduit 2 video.

Yes we see graphical improvement, but many of you want to see more of the improvements that are stated to be in the game (less corridor, less linear, bigger environments, smarter AI) but these early videos don't show that. I don't know what the previewers or the developers are trying to showcase when they released the videos in discussion, but indeed I agree the videos don't do the game justice in addressing the problems with the first game. However, I'm assuming that the purpose of these videos is to just show off the improved tech and not what the game is about overall. Like I said, we haven't seen everything or played the game for that matter--so we really can't say how the Conduit 2 stacks up against GoldenEye, MP3, etc. It's too premature to start making such assessments.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Were those videos supposed to show off the good parts? It looks like the same old uninspired action of the first one to me...

psychobrew

How so?

It looks very much like a linear run and gun FPS. If the MP mode is really good I will get it, but at this point Goldeneye reigns supreme in my eyes. I mean its obvious that the production values in this game are sorta low.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

I think the The Conduit franchise missed it's mark.

It was OK to release a game like this 2 years ago as the Wii barely had any games lke this and it seemed OK on paper. Right now though I can't really find a reasons why you should choose this game above Goldeneye, Metroid Prime Trilogy or any of the major CoD releases that the Wii has gotten. The only reason would be if FPS is your favourite franchise but if that's the case I think you bought the wrong console.

Tri-Enforcer

Conduit 2 isn't even out yet and we haven't seen all that it has to offer. It's waaaay to early to draw a conclusion about it. We've read in previews that it's additions are substantial over the original and we've read about improvements. I think everyone is getting bent out of shape over a few small snippets of early Conduit 2 video.

Yes we see graphical improvement, but many of you want to see more of the improvements that are stated to be in the game (less corridor, less linear, bigger environments, smarter AI) but these early videos don't show that. I don't know what the previewers or the developers are trying to showcase when they released the videos in discussion, but indeed I agree the videos don't do the game justice in addressing the problems with the first game. However, I'm assuming that the purpose of these videos is to just show off the improved tech and not what the game is about overall. Like I said, we haven't seen everything or played the game for that matter--so we really can't say how the Conduit 2 stacks up against GoldenEye, MP3, etc. It's too premature to start making such assessments.

But we can make a judgement on what they have shown us and their track record. What they have shown is pretty much the same as the first game but just nicer to look at, their track record is not impressive at all and they have done the whole hype, this is going to be an awesome game, the game the core gamers want and they give a mediocre game instead. You can say previews have said this and that but its not like we have never seen read previews for a game and it sounded so amazing but really the end product was just bad.

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

I think the The Conduit franchise missed it's mark.

It was OK to release a game like this 2 years ago as the Wii barely had any games lke this and it seemed OK on paper. Right now though I can't really find a reasons why you should choose this game above Goldeneye, Metroid Prime Trilogy or any of the major CoD releases that the Wii has gotten. The only reason would be if FPS is your favourite franchise but if that's the case I think you bought the wrong console.

Mitazaki

Conduit 2 isn't even out yet and we haven't seen all that it has to offer. It's waaaay to early to draw a conclusion about it. We've read in previews that it's additions are substantial over the original and we've read about improvements. I think everyone is getting bent out of shape over a few small snippets of early Conduit 2 video.

Yes we see graphical improvement, but many of you want to see more of the improvements that are stated to be in the game (less corridor, less linear, bigger environments, smarter AI) but these early videos don't show that. I don't know what the previewers or the developers are trying to showcase when they released the videos in discussion, but indeed I agree the videos don't do the game justice in addressing the problems with the first game. However, I'm assuming that the purpose of these videos is to just show off the improved tech and not what the game is about overall. Like I said, we haven't seen everything or played the game for that matter--so we really can't say how the Conduit 2 stacks up against GoldenEye, MP3, etc. It's too premature to start making such assessments.

But we can make a judgement on what they have shown us and their track record. What they have shown is pretty much the same as the first game but just nicer to look at, their track record is not impressive at all and they have done the whole hype, this is going to be an awesome game, the game the core gamers want and they give a mediocre game instead. You can say previews have said this and that but its not like we have never seen read previews for a game and it sounded so amazing but really the end product was just bad.

I don't care about their track record, I just care about Conduit. Most game consumers don't even know who the developer is, they just know the title or franchise. I have friends and family who play CoD or Madden, but couldn't tell you who the developer or publisher is. Why? Cuz they know the brand name and that it's fun. If I told them those developers made other crappy games, they could care less. Only on game sites do people get overly picky about a developers track record...that is just nit picky in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, then that's your thing, but I don't make a big deal about that.

Also, HVS is not hyping Conduit 2 the way they hyped the original game. I think they've been bit quieter and conservative in regards to Conduit 2 and much of that could have something to do with having a publisher from the get go. With the original game, before they landed with Sega, HVS was vibrant with their talk and we knew everything about the game long before it came out. This this time they have Sega so they're not at liberty to be so forthcoming about Conduit 2 hype and details so early on. Also, they're probably eating some humble pie this time around.

Anyway. All I will say is this: many are bashing this game now, but wait until it comes out. I'm certain many of the skeptics will be singing a different tune. I won't be here to say 'I told you so', since I'll be too busy playing Conduit 2. I'm sure I'll catch many of you on there!

I don't care about their track record, I just care about Conduit. Most game consumers don't even know who the developer is, they just know the title or franchise. I have friends and family who play CoD or Madden, but couldn't tell you who the developer or publisher is. Why? Cuz they know the brand name and that it's fun. If I told them those developers made other crappy games, they could care less. Only on game sites do people get overly picky about a developers track record...that is just nit picky in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, then that's your thing, but I don't make a big deal about that.

Also, HVS is not hyping Conduit 2 the way they hyped the original game. I think they've been bit quieter and conservative in regards to Conduit 2 and much of that could have something to do with having a publisher from the get go. With the original game, before they landed with Sega, HVS was vibrant with their talk and we knew everything about the game long before it came out. This this time they have Sega so they're not at liberty to be so forthcoming about Conduit 2 hype and details so early on. Also, they're probably eating some humble pie this time around.

Anyway. All I will say is this: many are bashing this game now, but wait until it comes out. I'm certain many of the skeptics will be singing a different tune. I won't be here to say 'I told you so', since I'll be too busy playing Conduit 2. I'm sure I'll catch many of you on there!

Tri-Enforcer

Well this just happens to be a game site, so been picky and talking about a developers track record is kinda what goes on in a gaming forum. I dont think I am been nit picky at all, what cause I am not getting over hyped over a game that looks mediocre at best. How I also find it hard to think during the time left remaining in development that it is not going to get all that better. Its rare that a game developer that has produced so many mediocre game for quite some time to suddenly start hitting us with something amazing.

Sure I hope I am wrong and that the game does turn out to be good but sadly what has been shown is nothing to hype about.

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

I don't care about their track record, I just care about Conduit. Most game consumers don't even know who the developer is, they just know the title or franchise. I have friends and family who play CoD or Madden, but couldn't tell you who the developer or publisher is. Why? Cuz they know the brand name and that it's fun. If I told them those developers made other crappy games, they could care less. Only on game sites do people get overly picky about a developers track record...that is just nit picky in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, then that's your thing, but I don't make a big deal about that.

Also, HVS is not hyping Conduit 2 the way they hyped the original game. I think they've been bit quieter and conservative in regards to Conduit 2 and much of that could have something to do with having a publisher from the get go. With the original game, before they landed with Sega, HVS was vibrant with their talk and we knew everything about the game long before it came out. This this time they have Sega so they're not at liberty to be so forthcoming about Conduit 2 hype and details so early on. Also, they're probably eating some humble pie this time around.

Anyway. All I will say is this: many are bashing this game now, but wait until it comes out. I'm certain many of the skeptics will be singing a different tune. I won't be here to say 'I told you so', since I'll be too busy playing Conduit 2. I'm sure I'll catch many of you on there!

Mitazaki

Well this just happens to be a game site, so been picky and talking about a developers track record is kinda what goes on in a gaming forum. I dont think I am been nit picky at all, what cause I am not getting over hyped over a game that looks mediocre at best. How I also find it hard to think during the time left remaining in development that it is not going to get all that better. Its rare that a game developer that has produced so many mediocre game for quite some time to suddenly start hitting us with something amazing.

Sure I hope I am wrong and that the game does turn out to be good but sadly what has been shown is nothing to hype about.

I don't care if you're hyped up or not I'm not on HVS payroll. However, you're acting as if everything about this game was showcased in short snippet videos of a demo set to easy and invincibility mode. We haven't even seen an entire level only small segments of levels. I could probably find the entire first level on youtube, but don't know if that should be shown since it takes place on an oil rig with tight closed spaces and then people around here will criticize the oil rig for not being wide open with more space--disregarding that it accurately depicts an oil rig. I could just see it.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

I don't care about their track record, I just care about Conduit. Most game consumers don't even know who the developer is, they just know the title or franchise. I have friends and family who play CoD or Madden, but couldn't tell you who the developer or publisher is. Why? Cuz they know the brand name and that it's fun. If I told them those developers made other crappy games, they could care less. Only on game sites do people get overly picky about a developers track record...that is just nit picky in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, then that's your thing, but I don't make a big deal about that.

Also, HVS is not hyping Conduit 2 the way they hyped the original game. I think they've been bit quieter and conservative in regards to Conduit 2 and much of that could have something to do with having a publisher from the get go. With the original game, before they landed with Sega, HVS was vibrant with their talk and we knew everything about the game long before it came out. This this time they have Sega so they're not at liberty to be so forthcoming about Conduit 2 hype and details so early on. Also, they're probably eating some humble pie this time around.

Anyway. All I will say is this: many are bashing this game now, but wait until it comes out. I'm certain many of the skeptics will be singing a different tune. I won't be here to say 'I told you so', since I'll be too busy playing Conduit 2. I'm sure I'll catch many of you on there!

Tri-Enforcer

Well this just happens to be a game site, so been picky and talking about a developers track record is kinda what goes on in a gaming forum. I dont think I am been nit picky at all, what cause I am not getting over hyped over a game that looks mediocre at best. How I also find it hard to think during the time left remaining in development that it is not going to get all that better. Its rare that a game developer that has produced so many mediocre game for quite some time to suddenly start hitting us with something amazing.

Sure I hope I am wrong and that the game does turn out to be good but sadly what has been shown is nothing to hype about.

I don't care if you're hyped up or not I'm not on HVS payroll. However, you're acting as if everything about this game was showcased in short snippet videos of a demo set to easy and invincibility mode. We haven't even seen an entire level only small segments of levels. I could probably find the entire first level on youtube, but don't know if that should be shown since it takes place on an oil rig with tight closed spaces and then people around here will criticize the oil rig for not being wide open with more space--disregarding that it accurately depicts an oil rig. I could just see it.

If you dont care, then why do you keep replying? I have already seen the oil rig a few times. If this is how they want to sell their game, then count me unhooked.

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

Well this just happens to be a game site, so been picky and talking about a developers track record is kinda what goes on in a gaming forum. I dont think I am been nit picky at all, what cause I am not getting over hyped over a game that looks mediocre at best. How I also find it hard to think during the time left remaining in development that it is not going to get all that better. Its rare that a game developer that has produced so many mediocre game for quite some time to suddenly start hitting us with something amazing.

Sure I hope I am wrong and that the game does turn out to be good but sadly what has been shown is nothing to hype about.

Mitazaki

I don't care if you're hyped up or not I'm not on HVS payroll. However, you're acting as if everything about this game was showcased in short snippet videos of a demo set to easy and invincibility mode. We haven't even seen an entire level only small segments of levels. I could probably find the entire first level on youtube, but don't know if that should be shown since it takes place on an oil rig with tight closed spaces and then people around here will criticize the oil rig for not being wide open with more space--disregarding that it accurately depicts an oil rig. I could just see it.

If you dont care, then why do you keep replying? I have already seen the oil rig a few times. If this is how they want to sell their game, then count me unhooked.

I'm happy for ya ;)

I'm happy for ya ;)

Tri-Enforcer

Thanks for been happy for me.............. I guess :P

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]*sees positive post from haz* :shock: ok now i'm curious. *opens links* the guy not only is the one that voices the duke, but he uses the same voice :P and alien baby cry when you switch to the alien weapon and sodomize (is this word moddable?) it... creepy >.> graphics are good, as expected. multiplayer loses quite a bit in graphics and framerate, but nothing unbearable. turning tables to create cover sounds like something nice... once the AI is improved. the guy was basically standing still in open fire and wouldn't get shot. i have to agree with haz, i'm surprised. if this turns out any good, it might be the Wii FPS i've been wanting to own.Haziqonfire

I think more or less I see it as being more polished then the first, which is why I'm surprised.

I still think it shares some of the same faults as the original -- such as it still having an identity crisis.

I have a feeling yo, Jasonguy, Wiifan and that other guy have some sort of feud with HVSLastRambo341

I think the The Conduit franchise missed it's mark.

It was OK to release a game like this 2 years ago as the Wii barely had any games lke this and it seemed OK on paper. Right now though I can't really find a reasons why you should choose this game above Goldeneye, Metroid Prime Trilogy or any of the major CoD releases that the Wii has gotten. The only reason would be if FPS is your favourite franchise but if that's the case I think you bought the wrong console.

JLF1

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

I think more or less I see it as being more polished then the first, which is why I'm surprised.

I still think it shares some of the same faults as the original -- such as it still having an identity crisis.

BrunoBRS

I have a feeling yo, Jasonguy, Wiifan and that other guy have some sort of feud with HVSLastRambo341

I forgot his name, he has a blue avatar of some guy flying XD

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

Sad? What is this? Titanic? As for the unimpressed people, you guys wouldn't get impressed anyways.

LastRambo341

Wouldn't get impressed if... what?

I've been impressed by tons of games before. Heck, I'm usually a pushover who likes games that other people don't.

OK, OK, I'll come clean: when I was eight years old, three employees from HVS beat me up and stole my lunch money, and I've been bitter and hate-filled towards HVS ever since.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Wouldn't get impressed if... what?

I've been impressed by tons of games before. Heck, I'm usually a pushover who likes games that other people don't.

OK, OK, I'll come clean: when I was eight years old, three employees from HVS beat me up and stole my lunch money, and I've been bitter and hate-filled towards HVS ever since.

I can't wait for this game to come out but the video didn't really look all that great there. The A.I. looked kinda dumb and it looked a little rough. Not as smooth as the other videos but thats probably more the video then anything else. Why they have to push the game back why why why!

I don't care about their track record, I just care about Conduit. Most game consumers don't even know who the developer is, they just know the title or franchise. I have friends and family who play CoD or Madden, but couldn't tell you who the developer or publisher is. Why? Cuz they know the brand name and that it's fun. If I told them those developers made other crappy games, they could care less. Only on game sites do people get overly picky about a developers track record...that is just nit picky in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, then that's your thing, but I don't make a big deal about that.Tri-Enforcer

Also, HVS is not hyping Conduit 2 the way they hyped the original game. I think they've been bit quieter and conservative in regards to Conduit 2 and much of that could have something to do with having a publisher from the get go. With the original game, before they landed with Sega, HVS was vibrant with their talk and we knew everything about the game long before it came out. This this time they have Sega so they're not at liberty to be so forthcoming about Conduit 2 hype and details so early on. Also, they're probably eating some humble pie this time around.Tri-Enforcer

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]I don't care about their track record, I just care about Conduit. Most game consumers don't even know who the developer is, they just know the title or franchise. I have friends and family who play CoD or Madden, but couldn't tell you who the developer or publisher is. Why? Cuz they know the brand name and that it's fun. If I told them those developers made other crappy games, they could care less. Only on game sites do people get overly picky about a developers track record...that is just nit picky in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, then that's your thing, but I don't make a big deal about that.JordanElek

Also, HVS is not hyping Conduit 2 the way they hyped the original game. I think they've been bit quieter and conservative in regards to Conduit 2 and much of that could have something to do with having a publisher from the get go. With the original game, before they landed with Sega, HVS was vibrant with their talk and we knew everything about the game long before it came out. This this time they have Sega so they're not at liberty to be so forthcoming about Conduit 2 hype and details so early on. Also, they're probably eating some humble pie this time around.Tri-Enforcer

That's cool. But I do feel that as this game gets closer to release, many people will change their minds. Especially once they see video of the final build and read more positive previews from those who spent extensive time with the game.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

I think the The Conduit franchise missed it's mark.

It was OK to release a game like this 2 years ago as the Wii barely had any games lke this and it seemed OK on paper. Right now though I can't really find a reasons why you should choose this game above Goldeneye, Metroid Prime Trilogy or any of the major CoD releases that the Wii has gotten. The only reason would be if FPS is your favourite franchise but if that's the case I think you bought the wrong console.

BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="JLF1"]

I think the The Conduit franchise missed it's mark.

It was OK to release a game like this 2 years ago as the Wii barely had any games lke this and it seemed OK on paper. Right now though I can't really find a reasons why you should choose this game above Goldeneye, Metroid Prime Trilogy or any of the major CoD releases that the Wii has gotten. The only reason would be if FPS is your favourite franchise but if that's the case I think you bought the wrong console.

JLF1

Graphically I think it looks quite good. As far as the shooting is concerned, it just seems like updated Conduit 1. Conduit 1 wasn't a great game but I borrowed it from a friend and I thought the shooting mechanics made for some fun online matches. Thus I am interested to see how the second title does since the feature set and the online maps look much improved. If it turns out to be better than the first I'll probably buy at reduced price. Its not a matter of the game being amazing, when you buy a game YOU have to understand what YOU want. That's the way to succed and not get disappointed.

Oh, and the best part of the first game was when it had more open parts like the end of the third level and the streets part of the 7th level. The Conduit 2 seems like a mix of that once again with the corridors being mediocore but the outside set pieces looking like a bit of fun, with the seemingly better designed levels and better graphics, I could handle a trek though the SP. It looks to be improved, atleast imo.

Graphically I think it looks quite good. As far as the shooting is concerned, it just seems like updated Conduit 1. Conduit 1 wasn't a great game but I borrowed it from a friend and I thought the shooting mechanics made for some fun online matches. Thus I am interested to see how the second title does since the feature set and the online maps look much improved. If it turns out to be better than the first I'll probably buy at reduced price. Its not a matter of the game being amazing, when you buy a game YOU have to understand what YOU want. That's the way to succed and not get disappointed.

Oh, and the best part of the first game was when it had more open parts like the end of the third level and the streets part of the 7th level. The Conduit 2 seems like a mix of that once again with the corridors being mediocore but the outside set pieces looking like a bit of fun, with the seemingly better designed levels and better graphics, I could handle a trek though the SP. It looks to be improved, atleast imo.

ActicEdge

It's very improved. Even the online will have patches for the hackers who ruined the first game. I liked Conduit, but the online was a let down due to its performance and hackers. Conduit 2 is easily one of my most anticipated games of 2011.

Well as a fan of the original game I've had faith in this since its announcement. But even I agree that what we've seen so far has surpassed even my expectations. Seriously excited! Srsly.

Well as a fan of the original game I've had faith in this since its announcement. But even I agree that what we've seen so far has surpassed even my expectations. Seriously excited! Srsly.

Darth-Samus

Conduit 2 will be the definitive Wii FPS! GoldenEye and Black Ops will just be filler for now.

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

Well as a fan of the original game I've had faith in this since its announcement. But even I agree that what we've seen so far has surpassed even my expectations. Seriously excited! Srsly.

Tri-Enforcer

Black Opswill be the definitive Wii FPS! GoldenEye and Black Ops will just be filler for now.

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

Well as a fan of the original game I've had faith in this since its announcement. But even I agree that what we've seen so far has surpassed even my expectations. Seriously excited! Srsly.

Tri-Enforcer

Black Opswill be the definitive Wii FPS! GoldenEye and Black Ops will just be filler for now.

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

Well as a fan of the original game I've had faith in this since its announcement. But even I agree that what we've seen so far has surpassed even my expectations. Seriously excited! Srsly.

OreoMilkshake

Black Opswill be the definitive Wii FPS! GoldenEye and Black Ops will just be filler for now.

Ooops! Did I do that? Yeah I meant Conduit 2 will be the definitive Wii FPS!

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

I do think that skeptics would be less vocal if the Conduit 2 looked a little more on par with say...Halo 2. Is that too much to ask? I don't think so. I am not saying it needs that much of a grand scale, but if they could have made textures, physics, animations, ect that did as much as Halo 2 did for similar hardware then people would be much more satisfied.

I do not think it is too much to ask for because:

1. The Wii's hardware is in many ways more powerful than what Halo 2 was running off of.

2. This is a sequel so the engine should be much better now.

3. Conduit is on a much smaller scale so emulating some of the quality should be much easier

I think as HVS have made it very clear that the Conduit is a series that is not creative but rather derivative, it is ok to aim for something like Halo 2. Conduit does not need to be CoD or Rage or any of the next gen monsters, but if it can be more of an arcade experience that can emulate good games last gen like Halo 2, Doom 3, Unreal Championship 2, etc. then we have a franchise that actually stands up. We do not get to see many arcade FPS.

Tri-Enforcer

Both Conduits look better than Halo 2! What are you drinking? I had to go back a watch videos of Halo 2 and then of both Conduits. I'm sorry...I really can't take any of your criticism serious...lol.

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

I do think that skeptics would be less vocal if the Conduit 2 looked a little more on par with say...Halo 2. Is that too much to ask? I don't think so. I am not saying it needs that much of a grand scale, but if they could have made textures, physics, animations, ect that did as much as Halo 2 did for similar hardware then people would be much more satisfied.

I do not think it is too much to ask for because:

1. The Wii's hardware is in many ways more powerful than what Halo 2 was running off of.

2. This is a sequel so the engine should be much better now.

3. Conduit is on a much smaller scale so emulating some of the quality should be much easier

I think as HVS have made it very clear that the Conduit is a series that is not creative but rather derivative, it is ok to aim for something like Halo 2. Conduit does not need to be CoD or Rage or any of the next gen monsters, but if it can be more of an arcade experience that can emulate good games last gen like Halo 2, Doom 3, Unreal Championship 2, etc. then we have a franchise that actually stands up. We do not get to see many arcade FPS.

thedude-

Both Conduits look better than Halo 2! What are you drinking? I had to go back a watch videos of Halo 2 and then of both Conduits. I'm sorry...I really can't take any of your criticism serious...lol.

multiple different AI behaving? One charges straight in/suicide and all the others stand back and shoot and sometimes find cover. TCon 2 doesn't have the room for vehicles (although scripted events would be nice.) I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "organic world taking place around the campaign."

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

I do think that skeptics would be less vocal if the Conduit 2 looked a little more on par with say...Halo 2. Is that too much to ask? I don't think so. I am not saying it needs that much of a grand scale, but if they could have made textures, physics, animations, ect that did as much as Halo 2 did for similar hardware then people would be much more satisfied.

I do not think it is too much to ask for because:

1. The Wii's hardware is in many ways more powerful than what Halo 2 was running off of.

2. This is a sequel so the engine should be much better now.

3. Conduit is on a much smaller scale so emulating some of the quality should be much easier

I think as HVS have made it very clear that the Conduit is a series that is not creative but rather derivative, it is ok to aim for something like Halo 2. Conduit does not need to be CoD or Rage or any of the next gen monsters, but if it can be more of an arcade experience that can emulate good games last gen like Halo 2, Doom 3, Unreal Championship 2, etc. then we have a franchise that actually stands up. We do not get to see many arcade FPS.

thedude-

Both Conduits look better than Halo 2! What are you drinking? I had to go back a watch videos of Halo 2 and then of both Conduits. I'm sorry...I really can't take any of your criticism serious...lol.

I'm glad you were able to hop in a time machine and play Conduit 2 to find out that it lacks all that you listed.

Awesome looking wii game

[QUOTE="thedude-"][QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

Both Conduits look better than Halo 2! What are you drinking? I had to go back a watch videos of Halo 2 and then of both Conduits. I'm sorry...I really can't take any of your criticism serious...lol.

Tri-Enforcer

I'm glad you were able to hop in a time machine and play Conduit 2 to find out that it lacks all that you listed.