You Know What Nintendo Should Do?

Nintendo should stop making games on their own. Just about every game they've made in collaboration with someone has been amazing. F-Zero GX is one of the best racing games, and definately the best F-Zero game ever. Everyone recognizes this as nintendo's doing, but it was SEGA that actually pushed it to its greatness. Also, The Legend of Zelda has been touched by another Dev, Capcom, and we were bestowed two of the best (IMO) top-view LoZ games, being only suceeded by A Link To the Past. Oracle of Ages had some of the hardest puzzles in a zelda game EVER, and i found it really fun, yet frustrating beyond belief. Retro Studios gave us the metroid prime trilogy, and soon the ninja gaiden guys will be giving us another metroid game! just about the only nintendo character who has been with nintendo all the time is mario, and let's face it, he's starting to show his age. nintendo should just lay off developing for a bit and let other devs fufil their fantasies with the characters, we've done nothing but benefit so far, so why not?

They shouldn't stop making every game on their own. Sometimes Nintendo does great things that others would refuse to do. But they should do more collaberations. On that, I agree with you.

they done well on their own for years, i dont expect them to stop now,

sure every once in a while they collaberate its good to , but their great over all , super mario galaxy and zelda is 2 of the most enjoyable wii games ive played,

not to mention mariokart marioparty and ssbb

The reason why Nintendo characters are still around, have a high reputation, and consistently sell and perform well is because they are NINTENDO games. I see where you are coming from, but as they say:

"Don't fix what ain't broken."

Also, I wouldn't trust any Nintendo franchises in the hands of anyone except Rare or Retro Studios (we all know what happened to the first).

I am however excited about team ninja's colaboration with metroid. Their work with Ninja Gaiden is top notch.

How could you not mention the Rare/Nintendo partnership on the DKC trilogy? It's always the first one I remember.

And as long as they don't let anyone touch the danger zone (aka. Mario and Zelda franchises), I'm cool with that. :P

More importantly, they should stop letting third parties make Wii games unsupervised. I mean, there are some great third-party Wii games out there, but most of them are crap. Ninty should at least watch over the process. Collaborations = win

More importantly, they should stop letting third parties make Wii games unsupervised. I mean, there are some great third-party Wii games out there, but most of them are crap. Ninty should at least watch over the process. Collaborations = win

wii_gamerz

I have an idea. If you see crap don't eat it.

I think colaboration is key here. Not to just say "hey take thereins and lets see how you do" more like "what ideas do you have about this....well I was thinking this". We still want that Nintendo element (you all know what Im talking about) but keep the game fresh and filled with new ideas.

How could you not mention the Rare/Nintendo partnership on the DKC trilogy? It's always the first one I remember.

And as long as they don't let anyone touch the danger zone (aka. Mario and Zelda franchises), I'm cool with that. :P

dan_the_menace

I agree, best example I can think of was the great Nintendo + Rare duo. :(

I don't mind Nintendo collaborating with certain developers on certain projects, but there is one thing I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree with you on.

just about the only character who has been with Nintendo all this time is mario, and let's face it, he's starting to show his agegarret_duffman

This, this, and this say hi. :P While I'm not against a great developer working on a Nintendo game or two here or there, I'm very much against Nintendo not working on games themselves. Even when other developers have been working on certain games, they've done so with at least a little oversight by Nintendo, which I think plays a significant part with the outcome of a lot of these games. Even with that, it hasn't been perfect. Look at the last two StarFox console games, as both of them was handled by someone not named Nintendo and it can be said that neither title was able to capture the StarFox experience many fans know and love. In fact, many fans say that's a franchise that should be developed only by Nintendo for the sake of getting it back on track. Also, if Nintendo goes on this major collab spree with other developers, what room does that leave these developers for major projects of their own? :P

how can u forget the great Square/Nintendo Collabo of Super Mario RPGfunsohng

I don't mind Nintendo collaborating with certain developers on certain projects, but there is one thing I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree with you on.

[quote="garret_duffman"]just about the only character who has been with Nintendo all this time is mario, and let's face it, he's starting to show his ageMadmangamer364

This, this, and this say hi. :P While I'm not against a great developer working on a Nintendo game or two here or there, I'm very much against Nintendo not working on games themselves. Even when other developers have been working on certain games, they've done so with at least a little oversight by Nintendo, which I think plays a significant part with the outcome of a lot of these games. Even with that, it hasn't been perfect. Look at the last two StarFox console games, as both of them was handled by someone not named Nintendo and it can be said that neither title was able to capture the StarFox experience many fans know and love. In fact, many fans say that's a franchise that should be developed only by Nintendo for the sake of getting it back on track. Also, if Nintendo goes on this major collab spree with other developers, what room does that leave these developers for major projects of their own? :P

Are you crazy?

ninty games are good cause... their made by nintendo :roll:

Nintendo had prove that is the best developer so far

Are you crazy?

ninty games are good cause... their made by nintendo :roll:

Nintendo had prove that is the best developer so far

Are you crazy?

ninty games are good cause... their made by nintendo :roll:

Nintendo had prove that is the best developer so far

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How could you not mention the Rare/Nintendo partnership on the DKC trilogy? It's always the first one I remember.

And as long as they don't let anyone touch the danger zone (aka. Mario and Zelda franchises), I'm cool with that. :P

garrett_duffman

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[QUOTE="dan_the_menace"]

How could you not mention the Rare/Nintendo partnership on the DKC trilogy? It's always the first one I remember.

And as long as they don't let anyone touch the danger zone (aka. Mario and Zelda franchises), I'm cool with that. :P

dan_the_menace

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[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"] capcom did a really good job, i mean a REALLY good job with oracle of ages and seasons

garrett_duffman

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Yeah, I think Capcom also developed The Minish Cap, and that turned out to be an awesome game. What I wanted to say is to leave the Mario and Zelda console games on Nintendo's hands. I mean... they are the best developer in the world for a reason, aren't they?

dan_the_menace

nintendo is one of the most consistant and high quality publishers in the history of the business if not the best. i think colabs can be great, but nobody understands nintendo or the wii/ds the way that nintendo does. i would like to see some of there lesser franchises colabed to see what could be done with say, starfox or f zero. im interested to see how the new metroid pans out the ninja gaiden series in infamous for terrible camera angles, i know i played both of them and being very difficult and fast paced , while metroids challenge seems to come from a slow methotical pace and using your brain to find the objective.

im sorry, i should have specified when i said mario is showing his age. while ctritic-wise, mario is as young and fresh as ever, when it comes down to the games, they are just starting to feel uninspired. the freshest thing mario is doing right now is teaming up with luigi in RPG's, his platformers are starting to feel repetetive. I just think that insight from an outside company could help boost the whole mario thing, like SEGA did with F-zero and Capcom did with zelda, and Square did with mario previously by putting him in an RPG (which APPARENTLY, nintendo really liked, as now mario is in HOW many RPGs? that all play similarly to the original SMRPG) Im not trying to insult or anything, im just saying that collaborations have always turned out pretty positive for us, and we should ask for them more. i could use another super-hard-puzzle-filled Legend of zelda that will make me tear my hair out. isnt that what we all really want? or another F-zero that allows for us to create our own racing machines and play through a fun and pretty unique story? garrett_duffman

I'm more in tune to your point now. Still, if it's not broken, why fix it? If Mario's still getting high marks, why risk losing momentum with the series by letting someone else handle the game? As far as the games feeling uninspired, that's a matter of opinion, really. Personally, I enjoyed the gravity aspect of Super Mario Galaxy and the Wii-specific challenges that the game created, and I think what Super Paper Mario brings to the table, with its 2D/3D morphing gamplay, is something more developers should look into. At the end of the day, while F-Zero GX was a great racing game with some cool additions, it was still a racer in the end. The same goes for Zelda, as well. It's not like the games are likely to undergo drastic changes in the hands of a different developer, and if they do, it's very possible we could get an incident where fans are upset, much like what happened with StarFox. And poor DK still doesn't know what he wants to do these days... :P

I'm not saying that a different developer couldn't hurt any of these games, including Mario, but I've come to like the offerings Nintendo has given as well. Once again, I'm not in total disagreement with your point, as I think seeing more collabs could create promising results. Still, at the end of the day, I want a polished product, and Nintendo has as good of a rep for that as anyone. :P

nintendo is one of the most consistant and high quality publishers in the history of the business if not the best. i think colabs can be great, but nobody understands nintendo or the wii/ds the way that nintendo does. i would like to see some of there lesser franchises colabed to see what could be done with say, starfox or f zero. im interested to see how the new metroid pans out the ninja gaiden series in infamous for terrible camera angles, i know i played both of them and being very difficult and fast paced , while metroids challenge seems to come from a slow methotical pace and using your brain to find the objective.

skhellitor

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Yeah... Maybe this is just me being afraid people other than Nintendo mess around with franchises I love so much. Kinda like having a dusty ming vase - because you're afraid to touch it and break it - at your house and a friend says "Hey, I could clean that without breaking it" and you say "HELL DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH THAT OR I'LL BITE YOUR HEAD OFF"

garrett_duffman

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[QUOTE="dan_the_menace"]

Yeah... Maybe this is just me being afraid people other than Nintendo mess around with franchises I love so much. Kinda like having a dusty ming vase - because you're afraid to touch it and break it - at your house and a friend says "Hey, I could clean that without breaking it" and you say "HELL DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH THAT OR I'LL BITE YOUR HEAD OFF"

dan_the_menace

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[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"] but at the same time, if capcom made a console zelda game and it tanked, it would probably still sell like hotcakes just because of the name, and nintendo could make another

garrett_duffman

Wow, you really got me thinking. Most of Nintendo's best games are actually games made in collaboration of another company:?

Terrible idea

I think every franchise except Mario needs some third-party flaire.. BioWare would be a nice touch to Zelda ;)

Wow, you really got me thinking. Most of Nintendo's best games are actually games made in collaboration of another company:?

Thiago26792

No.

All of the main series Zelda games made by Nintendo. All of the main series Mario games made by Nintendo. All of the Fire Emblem games made by Nintendo. The worst Star Fox games were collaborations. I don't wanna keep on going with every series so I will close with this; The most critically/player acclaimed Nintendo games are made in-house with few exceptions.

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Wow, you really got me thinking. Most of Nintendo's best games are actually games made in collaboration of another company:?

Captain-Pants

No.

All of the main series Zelda games made by Nintendo. All of the main series Mario games made by Nintendo. All of the Fire Emblem games made by Nintendo. The worst Star Fox games were collaborations. I don't wanna keep on going with every series so I will close with this; The most critically/player acclaimed Nintendo games are made in-house with few exceptions.

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[QUOTE="Thiago26792"]

Wow, you really got me thinking. Most of Nintendo's best games are actually games made in collaboration of another company:?

garrett_duffman

No.

All of the main series Zelda games made by Nintendo. All of the main series Mario games made by Nintendo. All of the Fire Emblem games made by Nintendo. The worst Star Fox games were collaborations. I don't wanna keep on going with every series so I will close with this; The most critically/player acclaimed Nintendo games are made in-house with few exceptions.

There is no false information in my response. I like the idea of Nintendo collaborating with other talented developers, but all of their biggest title were made in-house. So, I don't see the point in turning everything they do into a collaborative effort. It's silly.

And run a risk of Nintendo's skills to get rusty, HECK NO.

although Nintendo has produced some great games with the help of other developers, I don't think they should always collaborate. Every now and again is okay, but all the time wouldn't be so cool.

they allready r having a bunch of third-party games comming out for wii, the producers are just not trying hard enough to make somthing as truely epic as the past

they allready r having a bunch of third-party games comming out for wii, the producers are just not trying hard enough to make somthing as truely epic as the past

fatbed

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Captain-Pants"]

No.

All of the main series Zelda games made by Nintendo. All of the main series Mario games made by Nintendo. All of the Fire Emblem games made by Nintendo. The worst Star Fox games were collaborations. I don't wanna keep on going with every series so I will close with this; The most critically/player acclaimed Nintendo games are made in-house with few exceptions.

Captain-Pants

There is no false information in my response. I like the idea of Nintendo collaborating with other talented developers, but all of their biggest title were made in-house. So, I don't see the point in turning everything they do into a collaborative effort. It's silly.