Zelda: A Debatable Thought

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#51 l8bitz
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Like instead of green, Link could be brown. Or even better... A GIRL!!! Make the Link character a girl, and the Zelda character a guy!!! ITS BRILLIANT!!!Sushimaster

That'd be the weirdest thing ever... but I'd still play it.

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#52 Sushimaster
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What about a Zelda RPG??? :P
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#53 l8bitz
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What about a Zelda RPG??? :PSushimaster

Link was in Super Mario RPG eh?

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#54 Sushimaster
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Ever hear of this stuff? I hope Nintendo will remake all the original NES games some day.
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#55 nintendofreak_2
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Well I think that Nintendo should actually kill Ganon(dorf) off entirely. That would make it so he can't come back. Also, the game just needs to be harder. IN TP, there was that one enemy that showed up twice who had that big axe. He did 3 hearts for any hit, but he didn't attack a lot. If Nintendo made more enemies like that, but they were more aggressive, I think that would definitely fix the difficulty problem. Or they could just add in different difficulties which could determine damage.

The whole Ganon thing really does need to be fixed though. Also just enemies. Why aren't there hordes of enemies instead of just a few here and there? I want 20 goblins attacking instead of just one or two. Also why aren't there hunters or other people in the fields? This could make for some allies that could lead to some great things or rivalries. The only people are in towns. And what happened to the Deku? What abould guilds and things like that?

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#56 l8bitz
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Ever hear of this stuff? I hope Nintendo will remake all the original NES games some day.Sushimaster

Yeah some great stuff there. Nintendo should totally do this.

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#57 FloOFy2
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Well, you could say the same exact thing about Link and even Zelda. But I do agree. The Zelda seriesneed something new, something away from Hyrule and maybe the Triforce. Maybe Nintendo will make another game like Majora's Mask where Link goes somewhere else. Zelda games need more puzzles to, their getting old.
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#58 veni-vidi-vici
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A more interesting thought is why is the game always called Zelda even though you never get to play as her and she seems to often have a minor role in each game. Was she even in Majora's Mask? I don't even remember... I'm fairly certain she wasn't in the gameboy Zelda where you have to wake up the big egg, forget the name of that one too.DeadlyZodiac

yeah, i do find its strange that the franchise is named after her - totally stealing Link's thunder.

i agree the Zant battle felt more climactic he had a more interesting story - and he was a twilight person. But he really was anything but badass; he was crazy funny.

Ganon is adequately evil, but I would like to see a more sophisticated motivation for him rather than just gaining power. or maybe if we had to stop him getting something rather than just stabbing him.

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#59 wertyui5467
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At first it's just like the traditional formula but then half way through an evel force greater than ganon kills zelda...then link and ganon team up to kill the evil force and they do but at the end in a very gloomy seting link screams as a swift arrow strikess his head and he falls to the ground blood gushing from his scull... the perfect setting for a sequel and would definatley "change the setting"... rather than replacing ganon ...thoughts?

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#60 Gangans
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Half the zelda games have nothing to do with ganon. Have you guys played the oracle games, minish cap games or links awakening or even zelda 2?

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#61 ParkCarsHere
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I would like the Zelda series to gain a new "major" villain somehow connect to Ganon(dorf), but I don't mind always fighting Ganon. He's very strong and definately has some unique abilities. However I do agree that knowing that you'll fight the same guy at the end gets boring, but he is one of the most recognizable villains ever. Maybe the new Zelda will feature a new villain? Who knows. I'm not sure if they will change it though. The Hero of Time is always Link, so I guess the enemy always has to be Ganon?
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#62 blueydwlf
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Sure buddy and lets get rid of Link and Zelda for that matter.........Not! You cant get rid of Gannon any more than you could Zelda and Link. It just wiouldnt be the legend of zelda without him. In my opinion all the games without Ganon werent nearly as good as the games with him.
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#63 bofe1234
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Ganondorf is the equivelent to Bowser. If you completely take them out of the game then the series will be ruined. however both the zelda and mario series have taken chances and used different villains. like count bleck in SPM and smithy from SMRPG. or from zelda their is Vaati from LOZ MC and skull kid from Loz MM. Nintendo will always have the same characters but every once in a while they introduce some new ones.
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#64 flying_welshman
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While it is a fair point to say that Ganon seems to have lost some of his threat after having "killed" him so many times, you are missing one of the central themes of the entire series. Ganon has all-ways been completely bad-ass, he only seems less of a threat because you've watched Link beat him down time and again, Link being one of if not the most bad-ass character in all of Video Games. Anybody else in the game, even Zelda herself would get their behind given to them on a plate. The dark lord is only a push-over if you are the legendary hero.
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#65 nishamuffypuppy
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I know what you mean... to be honest, Ganon for me in TP was a tad disappointing. His style and the boss fights were okay... well the boss fights were too easy and redundant, and I wish he a had a bigger role in that game. But I know what you mean, I'd like to see another new villain. I really liked Vaati from the Minish Cap and Four Swords though, I'd like to see him back
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#66 Chameleon93
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What I think they should do is change the formula. No more ganon, no more Zelda, no more hyrule castle, no more Master sword, no more anything of the zelda series. They should reinvent Link. We've seen a lot of the same thing in Twilight Princess, too much of the same thing. Hopefully, Zelda will be reinvented for the next generation.
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#67 Chameleon93
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I would like to add some more stuff from my previous topic. They should make the game extremely difficult. I want to play a game that I would want to break my wii remote. Zelda became too noobish after Majora's Mask. Their to easy to beat. They should make a 100 Hour adventure with a lot of caves to explore, more enemies that would make you jump out of your chair. I want the dungeon puzzles make the mind blow up. They need to make them hard. And the bosses should be extremely hard. I want a boss like this. "Hey, you invaded my territory, unlocked all of my doors, stole all of my items and treasures, Now I'm gonna kick your a$$. Sorta like that. Also I want plenty of Side-quests to keep the player busy after he's done with the main quest. In short I want the game to be disgustingly hard.
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#68 TillyMan88
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meh, eitherway ill play it and love it till the end
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#69 KAL_MAN
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it seems as though Nintendo is testing the other villains, like majora and the other guys, then it doesn'tdo as well as the ones with ganon in them. So they just say: "well, I guess the only way we can make money is if ganon stays."
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#70 ArkansasBoy91
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i think ganondorf in TP was Bad a**..but i think they need to take a break with him for a bit
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#71 The_Great_Samu
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Don't worry, Phantom Hourglass won't have Ganon.GamerForca

Really? That sucks.

BTW Zant wasn't cool at all. That guy was just stupid.

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#72 cobrax80
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The problem is simple, the role of ganandorf is too big, we all know he has to be inthe main zelda games because he has one of the pieces of the tri-force. They should give him a minor role in the game, they could even mention him in the game without him actually being in the game. Also they could give him a completely new role, in that case that would freshen things up fine also.
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#73 veni-vidi-vici
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My opinion already previously stated, i forgot to add that vaarti is fabulous. And yeah i agree with everyone on vamping up the level of difficulty. But i love this franchise too much anyway.
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#74 SuperMario_46
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The problem is that when they take out ganondorf of a zelda game too many people complain about it, just remember zelda II: link's adventure or Majora's mask.

Zelda fan, Dragon ball z fan, resident evil fan

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#75 Funkyhamster
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You thought Zant was badass but Ganodorf wasn't? :|

Zant just seemed kind of weird to me...

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#76 yusefdoodi
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I dont mind ganondork...dorf* that much

but they should at least change the last boss fight...ever since OoT the makers are like "woah! they really liked that game, lets make the boss fights like that!"

my idea is that you have a hand-to-hand fight with him and then you like eventually see a rock and kill him by smashing his face in.

either that or you should al least use your items that you get from the dungeons to beat him, because every time i fight ganondorf all my old items seem obsolete.

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#77 WollyOT
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I agree that Ganon's diffculty should be brought up and such, but that's to be said about all new Zelda games in general. When you can play through the entire game without seeing the game over screen once you know that you weren't challenged.

Anyway... I think that Ganon should stay because of what everyone before me has already said: he's crucial to the storyline. He doesn't always have to be the villain (Majora was pretty good IMO) but so long as he remains a central figure then all will be well and good. All they need to do is make his fights more dynamic and challenging and it should revive his flare. Maybe even make his reign over the world seem more threatining. TP just didn't make me feel like he was all that dangerous; all he did was hide behind a magic wall... scary...

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#78 Shadow_Link50
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I understand what you mean. Overall, I think if the difficulty of all bosses were to increase, maybe ganon near invincible,it would solve the problem. The thing with leaving out ganon is that you leave out part of the triforce. Leave out the triforce and you break apart from the legend of a hero with courage facing the power of evil. Leave out the triforce then you might as well leave out zelda and the master sword. Yes, other zelda games have been good without ganon but none of them felt quite as epic as the ones where he was in.BrokenTriforce

Uh, Majora's Mask? Many people consider it to be better than OoT, I myself think its the best Zelda yet.

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#79 SmartOne5792
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i like fighting ganon because it wouldnt feel right having a villain every different game if you have all the normal characters...i mean in TP they kept the same mailman but to change the villain every time but keep link and zelda and mailman carrier just isnt rite
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#80 RPFcorvette
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Gannon should have a son with one of the Gerudo people, and when Link kills Gannon in the beginning of the game the triforce should be passed on to the son. He could be the most powerful boss we've ever faced. They could call the game Legend Of Zelda Gannon's Revenge. After Gannon dies Link and Zelda would expect everything to go back to normal, but disturbances would keep coming up because Gannon's son is alive. After you help everyone with there problems Link discovers the son who is now old enough to fight, and they have an epic battle to finish the game.

JUST A THEORY

There could also be a ton of side quest :D

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#81 darkmark91
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They should make a zelda series game where you actually get to play as gannon, that would put a fun twist to it.

RPFcorvette

Now that would be total BAD@$$