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#1 kontejner44
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I'm calling it, Zelda Wii is becoming GOTY 2010.

First of all, they have accomplished this once back in 2007 when the competition was really high. They have had a long time to develop this game aswell, probably fully aware of WM+.

Think about it, SMG is the best game this gen accoording to critics (This is relevant in that the motion and pointer controls works great). TP was a GC port so the motion / IR pointing elements where just a teaser of what's to come, don't forget they are implementing WM+. Also recently they commented indirectly that they are focusing in graphics. They are quiet about this one just to give some space for SMG2 and M:OM + to become the biggest thing of E3.

The picture; Based on the picture we've seen where Link is standing in front of an oval-shaped opening, I'd say the 'thing' in Zelda Wii is going to be Mirror world. I'm not sure if the whole game will become mirrored or just parts of it. The mirror world is not just going to be mirrored, but also bizzare, much like ALttP (which is not mirrored). The blue fairy is clearly some kind of spirit form of the Master sword. It will probably just be the Navi of Zelda Wii.

What can you interpret from these statements?

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Twilight Princess will be "without a doubt, the last Zelda game as you know it in its present form."

"He also said that he would like to make the game to appeal both to the casual and the hardcore gamer."

In Nintendo Power's August 2009 issue, Miyamoto claimed that the game "[is not] going to be that radically different" than past games in the series.

Aonuma stated that he does not "necessarily think it will change that drastically" but that the Zelda franchise needs "some big new unique ideas"

"Well, the story setting for this Zelda is, of course, in a completely different era and Link is older than he was previously. More approaching adulthood. There is one hint. Maybe from the art work you can see that he's not holding a sword."

"We're taking advantage of MotionPlus. It's become very natural – the movement of your arms is precisely reflected in the gameplay. Thanks to the technological advancements, we hope the gameplay can be more accessible to people."

"it just feels so natural. Link's sword and the controller that you're holding become one."

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It's pretty clear that he is going to use a sword, and that the picture just relates to the story, aka sword is Navi.

The only outs left to discuss about the quality imo is Sound, Level design (Mirror world opens up huge potential in this area) and the biggest one would be the "big new unique idea", as in the structure of the game. Much like M64 -> SMG = Sandbox levels -> Linear, 2D-ish levels but in 3D. How could you apply this to the Zelda franchise one may ask?! I don't know, but I sure am excited.

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#2 starwarsjunky
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im gonna laugh when it doesnt come out til 2011 :P
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#3 neildneil
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I'm saying nothing until E3

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#4 kontejner44
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I'm saying nothing until E3

neildneil

It's not a bad thing to talk in terms of probables, it's fun to step out of the comfort zone and speculate, worst case scenario; you are wrong. In order to accomplish things you have to dare to be wrong.

The first time I saw the trailer for SMG, I knew it was going to be GOTY, and it turned out to be my fav game of all time, talk about exceeding expectations.

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#5 wes008
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im gonna laugh when it doesnt come out til 2011 :Pstarwarsjunky

I'm gonna explode when it doesn't come out til 2011 :evil:

It is, however, important that they make this one perfect. Then maybe it will become GOTY!

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#6 HawkEye1997
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Its zelda so of course it will be GOTY
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#7 elbert_b_23
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as far as we know nintendo has officially said 2010 release is in japan and not america i love zelda fanboys
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#8 killB_O_T
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A bit too soon, waiting until E3 to get excited about the next Zelda.

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#9 Cruse34
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im gonna laugh when it doesnt come out til 2011 :Pstarwarsjunky

I'm just going to be sad

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#10 roboccs
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im gonna laugh when it doesnt come out til 2011 :Pstarwarsjunky
That's the first thing I thought! Zelda is NOT coming out in 2010... Just my prediction.
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#11 locopatho
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The game that may not come out in 2010 is GOTY2010? :P Haha nah but seriously I hope you are right, I need a new Zelda on par with Ocarina and Windwaker :D
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#12 metalisticpain
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if they really shake things up then yes possible. if it just follows the same formula, then no chance
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#13 neildneil
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[QUOTE="neildneil"]

I'm saying nothing until E3

kontejner44

It's not a bad thing to talk in terms of probables, it's fun to step out of the comfort zone and speculate, worst case scenario; you are wrong. In order to accomplish things you have to dare to be wrong.

The first time I saw the trailer for SMG, I knew it was going to be GOTY, and it turned out to be my fav game of all time, talk about exceeding expectations.

I know but I really don't know anything about this... apart from that it's Zelda. We haven't seen any trailers or anything... But I do agree that it is fun to speculate etc. I guess what I meant was that I'm not going to make any judgements or anything until I know more about the game.

I think it will, without doubt, be a fantastic game. Nintendo are one of the best developers around, and their talents are often on full display in Zelda and Mario games, and whatever the new twist they're bringing to the series, I'm sure that they know what they're doing, and while it may either be predictable or something totally unexpected and out of blue, it will no doubt still be fun, and be more thanworth playing.

As for 2010 GOTY, mine looks certain to go to SMG2. Zelda may take it, but it has to come out in 2010 first.

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#14 kontejner44
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if they really shake things up then yes possible. if it just follows the same formula, then no chancemetalisticpain

See that's the thing, if you read the statements from Miyamoto / Aonuma in the OP, it's going to be mainstreamed in the same way SM64 --> SMG, the question is how, I can't figure it out, but that's just a plus because that means I will be surprised and hopefully/probably in a good way xD

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#15 AfterBurnerZ
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Hopefully it releases this year but it has some stiff competition for Game of the Year. It's gonna be fantastic regardless.
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I'm going to wait for gameplay footage before jumping to conclusions about the game's quality..
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#17 Darth-Samus
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im gonna laugh when it doesnt come out til 2011 :Pstarwarsjunky

I still kinda believe in this myslef. I really hope I'm wrong though.

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#18 umcommon
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Zelda will be a AAA game but GOTY is very subjective. Should be a major contender for sure though.
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I'm going to wait for gameplay footage before jumping to conclusions about the game's quality..GamerForca
Its Zelda... quality is its first, last, and middle name.
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#20 dovberg
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We've seen more of Gears of War 3 than we have Zelda, in other words Zelda might come out after Gears of War 3.

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#21 Arc2012
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Where did you get that there is going to be a "mirror world"?
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Where did you get that there is going to be a "mirror world"?Arc2012

oh that's a prediction based on the artwork picture

You could argue that the opening is some sort of gateway, which is ovaly shaped. Also I was thinking in the lines of what could the next thing be? They've used alot of concepts like time travel, dark/light world etc but no real mirror world yet. It's a concept that would work as the theme of a Zelda game. Also a temple is based on this concept of flipping the area has been used in MM's Stone Tower, so it's something that isn't too far fetched, they have been thinking along these lines before.

What else could the gateway be? and why use it in the only teaser out there? For example the other hint is the master sword spirit - Link holds no sword that's a wtf moment, it's huge. I bet the gateway is also a huge hint, why a perfect oval? why not circle / random hole?

Also I count 4 persons on the other side of the gateway if you look closely, the one easy to spot being right next to Link's shield. You could see his masked face and he is wearing some kind of black plate armor. What's that about!!

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[QUOTE="GamerForca"]I'm going to wait for gameplay footage before jumping to conclusions about the game's quality..garrett_duffman
Its Zelda... quality is its first, last, and middle name.

And he's talking about GOTY-quality.. of which the last few Zeldas were not.
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#24 Arc2012
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[QUOTE="Arc2012"]Where did you get that there is going to be a "mirror world"?kontejner44

oh that's a prediction based on the artwork picture

You could argue that the opening is some sort of gateway, which is ovaly shaped. Also I was thinking in the lines of what could the next thing be? They've used alot of concepts like time travel, dark/light world etc but no real mirror world yet. It's a concept that would work as the theme of a Zelda game. Also a temple is based on this concept of flipping the area has been used in MM's Stone Tower, so it's something that isn't too far fetched, they have been thinking along these lines before.

What else could the gateway be? and why use it in the only teaser out there? For example the other hint is the master sword spirit - Link holds no sword that's a wtf moment, it's huge. I bet the gateway is also a huge hint, why a perfect oval? why not circle / random hole?

Also I count 4 persons on the other side of the gateway if you look closely, the one easy to spot being right next to Link's shield. You could see his masked face and he is wearing some kind of black plate armor. What's that about!!

I see. I never really gave much thought to what they were standing in front of. Just thought of it as something neat looking for the picture. I gotta tell you though. I don't see anyone on the other side of it. Just brush strokes. The human mind is especially good at picking out human figures and faces which is why we often see them where none exist at all. Its the same reason so many people say they've seen or have pictures of ghosts.
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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="Arc2012"]Where did you get that there is going to be a "mirror world"?Arc2012

oh that's a prediction based on the artwork picture

You could argue that the opening is some sort of gateway, which is ovaly shaped. Also I was thinking in the lines of what could the next thing be? They've used alot of concepts like time travel, dark/light world etc but no real mirror world yet. It's a concept that would work as the theme of a Zelda game. Also a temple is based on this concept of flipping the area has been used in MM's Stone Tower, so it's something that isn't too far fetched, they have been thinking along these lines before.

What else could the gateway be? and why use it in the only teaser out there? For example the other hint is the master sword spirit - Link holds no sword that's a wtf moment, it's huge. I bet the gateway is also a huge hint, why a perfect oval? why not circle / random hole?

Also I count 4 persons on the other side of the gateway if you look closely, the one easy to spot being right next to Link's shield. You could see his masked face and he is wearing some kind of black plate armor. What's that about!!

I see. I never really gave much thought to what they were standing in front of. Just thought of it as something neat looking for the picture. I gotta tell you though. I don't see anyone on the other side of it. Just brush strokes. The human mind is especially good at picking out human figures and faces which is why we often see them where none exist at all. Its the same reason so many people say they've seen or have pictures of ghosts.

haha, look closer

1. right of his shield 2. you can see a leg, between link's left leg and the legs of the spirit. 3. between links right leg and the right part of the spirit's cloack. 4. under links right arm you can see a black body armor with a blank, round face

they are all detailed bodies, with arms, legs, heads..

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#26 GabuEx
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We have like one single piece of concept art to go off of and we're calling the game GOTY?

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#27 kontejner44
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We have like one single piece of concept art to go off of and we're calling the game GOTY?

GabuEx

it's mostly based on their statements about the game

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#28 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

We have like one single piece of concept art to go off of and we're calling the game GOTY?

kontejner44

it's mostly based on their statements about the game

aka the way that companies hype up EVERY GAME
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#29 kontejner44
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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

We have like one single piece of concept art to go off of and we're calling the game GOTY?

starwarsjunky

it's mostly based on their statements about the game

aka the way that companies hype up EVERY GAME

nah this is a franchise defining title, it's not another SMG2, Prime 3, NSMBW,there are new hardware concepts at hand. Much the same way Ocarina went 3D on N64, and the same way SMG redefined the 3D mario franchise. TP was just a GC port with a teaser of what's to be expected, and I am excited.

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#30 bob_newman
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worst case scenario; you are wrong.

kontejner44

No, you lose any credibility you had.

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#31 GabuEx
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nah this is a franchise defining title, it's not another SMG2, Prime 3, NSMBW,there are new hardware concepts at hand. Much the same way Ocarina went 3D on N64, and the same way SMG redefined the 3D mario franchise. TP was just a GC port with a teaser of what's to be expected, and I am excited.

kontejner44

Or, at least, that's what has been claimed. :P

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#32 kontejner44
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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

nah this is a franchise defining title, it's not another SMG2, Prime 3, NSMBW,there are new hardware concepts at hand. Much the same way Ocarina went 3D on N64, and the same way SMG redefined the 3D mario franchise. TP was just a GC port with a teaser of what's to be expected, and I am excited.

GabuEx

Or, at least, that's what has been claimed. :P

Haha yeah ^^

I believe in Nintendo :P

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your clairvoyance powers impress me, young padawan!
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

nah this is a franchise defining title, it's not another SMG2, Prime 3, NSMBW,there are new hardware concepts at hand. Much the same way Ocarina went 3D on N64, and the same way SMG redefined the 3D mario franchise. TP was just a GC port with a teaser of what's to be expected, and I am excited.

kontejner44

Or, at least, that's what has been claimed. :P

Haha yeah ^^

I believe in Nintendo :P

im gonna laugh when it flops :D
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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

worst case scenario; you are wrong.

bob_newman

No, you lose any credibility you had.

Well at least I have a record of being 100% correct

I called SMG GOTY based on the first trailer

I called MGS4 GOTY based on the review (didn't own a PS3 back then)

I called UC2 GOTY based on my playthrough, at least I think the general consensus is that UC2 = GOTY 2009, didn't do much research apart from some handpicked sites and the huge river of people screaming UC2 all over the boards

This time, for fun, I made a stretcher, I might be wrong, but that's unlikely, in my mind!

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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Or, at least, that's what has been claimed. :P

starwarsjunky

Haha yeah ^^

I believe in Nintendo :P

im gonna laugh when it flops :D

it will only flop in your mind, the same way SMG was a flop for some, and TP for others (basically the same people -_-)

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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Or, at least, that's what has been claimed. :P

starwarsjunky

Haha yeah ^^

I believe in Nintendo :P

im gonna laugh when it flops :D

whoa whoa, what do you mean "when"?
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[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

Haha yeah ^^

I believe in Nintendo :P

garrett_duffman

im gonna laugh when it flops :D

whoa whoa, what do you mean "when"?

i mean 2011 :P

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We have like one single piece of concept art to go off of and we're calling the game GOTY?

GabuEx
WRONG GABU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: Motion plus also confirmed! :P
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#40 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

We have like one single piece of concept art to go off of and we're calling the game GOTY?

wiifan001

WRONG GABU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: Motion plus also confirmed! :P

Oh, right, my mistake. :P

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#41 JAB991
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I think there are three main reasons Zelda will not win GOTY 2010:

  1. We've played this game before. Regardless of how much Nintendo is saying there will be to do or how revolutionary it will be to the series, odds are they're lying until they prove otherwise. Remember the giant cities that were scattered all over the world in Twilight Princess? I don't either. I just remember the hollow shell of lies from Nintendo. Until they prove otherwise, this is going to just be another Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess. At this point, that means the game will be good, but there won't be anything special about it to make it GOTY.
  2. 2010 is the year of the gamer. Legitimately, at the start of the year, I was able to list 25 or so titles that stood a decent shot of getting AAA scores. Some have fallen short, but we're also 1/3 of the way through the year. E3 will bring some juggernauts with it.
  3. It's not coming out in 2010.
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#42 penpusher
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bit soon to be declaring it game of the year just yet ... specially since there are NO details on it at all ....it will be one of the best games to come out, I mean there hasnt beena bad zelda since zelda 2 on the NES BUT the twilight princess demonstrated that the formula that nintendo is using for its home console zeldas is starting to show signs of its age, Now if they can introduce new gameplay mechanics (and I mean more than the increasingly weird gimmicks that they keep finding,,,like train tracks,,,) a freash story and maybe actually put in some voice acting and REAL music instead of the purely synth stuff that made up twilight princess' tracks then the game will rock ... if not then I might not even touch it...nintendo are risking doing what they 're doing with pokemon, just releasing the same old game they've been releasing already with just a lick of paint here and there to claim its new...
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#43 Sepewrath
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as far as we know nintendo has officially said 2010 release is in japan and not america i love zelda fanboyselbert_b_23
I'll say it before and I'll say it again, look at the sales of TP and guess which region gets preference. If it comes out this year in one place, that place will be NA and then Europe and then Japan. Right now they are likely at the bottom of the totem pole.

We've seen more of Gears of War 3 than we have Zelda, in other words Zelda might come out after Gears of War 3.

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We saw Alan Wake five years ago and it still hasn't come out. Info does not gauge when a game is coming out. Anyway this is one hell of a conclusion to jump to.
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#44 mariokart64fan
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if it isnt zelda it will be galaxy 2 or metroid other m to get goty 2010 , or a late holiday title-fzero what ever is anounced e3

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#45 JAB991
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if it isnt zelda it will be galaxy 2 or metroid other m to get goty 2010 , or a late holiday title-fzero what ever is anounced e3

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Definitely not Galaxy 2 either. Sorry. The game may be great, but it's not going to have the freshness of the first game. It's no longer the first of its kind.

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#46 AmayaPapaya
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Usually the game that fans scream will be GOTY does not get it.

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#47 dovberg
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you know what? I think it could be GOTY for 2010, even if it is released in 2011. Because if MGS4 was game of the year 2008 and still hasn't been released in game format then for sure Zelda can be GOTY 2010.

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#48 ekalbtwin
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you know what? I think it could be GOTY for 2010, even if it is released in 2011. Because if MGS4 was game of the year 2008 and still hasn't been released in game format then for sure Zelda can be GOTY 2010.

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What?
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#49 kontejner44
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I think there are three main reasons Zelda will not win GOTY 2010:

  1. We've played this game before. Regardless of how much Nintendo is saying there will be to do or how revolutionary it will be to the series, odds are they're lying until they prove otherwise. Remember the giant cities that were scattered all over the world in Twilight Princess? I don't either. I just remember the hollow shell of lies from Nintendo. Until they prove otherwise, this is going to just be another Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess. At this point, that means the game will be good, but there won't be anything special about it to make it GOTY.
  2. 2010 is the year of the gamer. Legitimately, at the start of the year, I was able to list 25 or so titles that stood a decent shot of getting AAA scores. Some have fallen short, but we're also 1/3 of the way through the year. E3 will bring some juggernauts with it.
  3. It's not coming out in 2010.

JAB991

1. Did you read my OP post and fully understood it? They did it with SMG. Nintendo has a history of releasing the redefining titles along with new hardware; N64 could do games in 3D and thus spawning titles like SM64 and OoT, GC had just graphics so they came up with Sunshine which "flopped" but on the other hand they actually did good with WW and used graphics in their advantage and if you think about it the only reason we have cel shaded Link is because there was no hardware update on GC ^^, Wii has Motion / IR that has lead us to SMG. For this new title, we have WM+ aswell. There are new hardware stuff at work here, they have succeeded with Galaxy and I'm sure they will do it again this or the next year with Zelda Wii.

2. Now that's true, if the game does not delive in terms of OoT, which I think it will do because I believe in them, then it just might not hold up vs the competition this year.

3. Well yeah, the official word is that it will hit by the end of this year but why does it matter. In January Iwata said that we are now less than 365 days away from Zelda Wii release so I'll just go with that, sure he corrected it later by saying this is not a definitive release date, it just might be later.

Thanks for some serious feedback though.

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#50 locopatho
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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

if it isnt zelda it will be galaxy 2 or metroid other m to get goty 2010 , or a late holiday title-fzero what ever is anounced e3

Hahaha. No.