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Asher Roth has already dropped his debut album, Charles Hamilton, and Drake plan to drop theirs on major labels, and B.o.B, and Wale's are expected later this year.

So out of the five, who drops a classic disc their first album out? If none, then who puts out the best album?

I honestly think of the five mentioned, Drake, CH, and Wale all have the potential to drop classic albums. I'm really curious to see what Drake comes out with, especially after hearing So Far Gone [which could pass for a really great album] and Comeback Season [which was a huge letdown]. I personally believe if Drake just sticks to his roots, and puts out an album similar to So Far Gone, his first disc will be a classic, and probably the best of the five mentioned.

Charles Hamilton to me, is the most consistent of the five. With Charles, you know what you're getting, and that's great music [the CH haters can laugh now]. He's very consistent, and knows how to make good music, even if you're hardly ever blown away by what he does. With that said though, I'm not sure Charles is willing to put in the effort, and extra polish to make more than just an excellent mixtape. He's put out so much material in the last year and a half, that I question whether he even wants to make an album. Often times he sounds like he's just out there having fun, and that's great. However, if Charles thinks he can put the same effort into an album as he did with Sonic The Hamilton, or Well...Isn't This Awkward, he's kidding himself. 

As far as Wale, I'm absolutely in love with the dude. I think his flow, mixed with the go-go production he uses on Mixtape About Nothing has c|assic written all over it. He should put out a consistent album, I just hope he keeps the Best Kept Secret behind the boards, and has more material that isn't as gimmicky as some of the songs on Mixtape About Nothing. I realize he was trying to make a point about the gimmicks, and stereotypes of hip hop [Remake of a Remake, Feature Heavy Song, The Grown Up] but I'd rather he put out an album that's a little more personal. The last thing I need is a Wale album where he talks about the state of hip hop like everyone seems to be doing nowadays. 

In the end, I think none of the five drop c|assics, but I expect Charles [surprise] to have the best album when its all said and done. If the album is at least as good as his mixtapes, it should be about a B+/A-, and far outdo what I think the others will put out. I think Wale and Drake will be up there too, but I expect the Wale album to underwhelm [possibly to be of the same quality as the first Rhymefest album? consistent, but nothing spectacular] and the Drake album to have more rapping, and pop tracks than I'd like.

Asher Roth stinks as many of you know. I've yet to hear any B.o.B. but if any of you went to throw a recommendation this way I'll be happy to listen to it.

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I liked AITBA. It was an underrated album...

But none of those guys are gonna drop a classic. The one who has the best shot isn't even up there...

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Jay Electronica, if his album comes out...it'll stomp eveyone you listed...even CH
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I liked AITBA. It was an underrated album...

But none of those guys are gonna drop a classic. The one who has the best shot isn't even up there...

-PuLse

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@ Rob: I have the Stylewars EP, but it never really did anything for me.

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Get "What the **** is a Jay Electronica"
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I'm really looking forward to Charles Hamilton's (whose album was supposed to drop last week but pushed it back to August cuz of tha whole Dilla thing), Wale's, and Drake's albums this year.. I'm not expecting 3 c|assic discs but I think they will all be great judging from thier mixtapes.. I'm expecting CH to have tha best, followed by Wale (I agree, he def. needs to keep BKS on production, they sound great together), and then Drake.. I kinda lost interest in Drake's album, I mean I know So far Gone was ill x1000, but Im kinda expecting to see Wayne, Mack Maine, etc Young Money dudes all over his album ever since hearing Every Girl.. Im cool with Wayne but Im not feelin those other dudes too much no homo..

I'm not too excited for B.o.B's release, but Ill check it out anyway, since I liked "Who The **** Is B.o.B?" (there's your reccomendation colt)....And I have no desire to bump ANY Asher Roth...

BTW I'm really lookin forward to Jay Electronica's album, I loved Style Wars and WTF is a Jay Electronica..,..and you Forgot about Kid Cudi. I kinda wrote Cudi off cuz I hated that Day 'N' Night track, but then I finally copped A Kid Named Cudi and Dat Kid From Cleveland (which I liked better) and now Im lookin forward to his album

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Jay Electronica, if his album comes out...it'll stomp eveyone you listed...even CHfat_rob
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Kid Cudi has an album coming out soon too and I think it has the potential to do some nice numbers. Say what you will about him,  I like him most of the time. Day N Nite proved he has hit potential in him as well. He's not a lyricist by any means, but I do enjoy listening to songs like Man on the Moon, Heaven At Night, and Sky Might Fall...

Man on the Moon trailer

 

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I dont think either of them will drop a Classic.. Maybe a great album but not a classic.. The Kid Daytona's album is dropping this Tuesday.. Look for him on the cover of XXL this year..
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Kid Cudi has an album coming out soon too and I think it has the potential to do some nice numbers. Say what you will about him,  I like him most of the time. Day N Nite proved he has hit potential in him as well. He's not a lyricist by any means, but I do enjoy listening to songs like Man on the Moon, Heaven At Night, and Sky Might Fall...

Man on the Moon trailer

 

Orlando_Magic

man and i thought i was gonna have to mention kid cudi, thanks for saving me the time.

co sign.

solo dolo is dope too.

im trying to hold off on his leaked material cause im really pumped for his album.

and as crazy as this is going to sound...i dont like the rapper drake, i like him singing more.

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#11 -PuLse
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Mickey Factz gonna own 2009.
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Mickey Factz gonna own 2009.-PuLse
Oh yea Mickey's been doing his thing.. Was gonna mention some other artist but they arent dropping albums anytime soon..
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Kid Cudi has an album coming out soon too and I think it has the potential to do some nice numbers. Say what you will about him,  I like him most of the time. Day N Nite proved he has hit potential in him as well. He's not a lyricist by any means, but I do enjoy listening to songs like Man on the Moon, Heaven At Night, and Sky Might Fall...

Man on the Moon trailer

 

Orlando_Magic

Yeah, Cudi completely slipped my mind. I liked that Day N' Nite song though....it's like, the perfect song to trip off of. Imagine being on acid, or smoking a blunt and then watching that music video :lol: I'd bug out for real :?

 

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I'm really looking forward to Charles Hamilton's (whose album was supposed to drop last week but pushed it back to August cuz of tha whole Dilla thing), Wale's, and Drake's albums this year.. I'm not expecting 3 c|assic discs but I think they will all be great judging from thier mixtapes.. I'm expecting CH to have tha best, followed by Wale (I agree, he def. needs to keep BKS on production, they sound great together), and then Drake.. I kinda lost interest in Drake's album, I mean I know So far Gone was ill x1000, but Im kinda expecting to see Wayne, Mack Maine, etc Young Money dudes all over his album ever since hearing Every Girl.. Im cool with Wayne but Im not feelin those other dudes too much no homo..

I'm not too excited for B.o.B's release, but Ill check it out anyway, since I liked "Who The **** Is B.o.B?" (there's your reccomendation colt)....And I have no desire to bump ANY Asher Roth...

BTW I'm really lookin forward to Jay Electronica's album, I loved Style Wars and WTF is a Jay Electronica..,..and you Forgot about Kid Cudi. I kinda wrote Cudi off cuz I hated that Day 'N' Night track, but then I finally copped A Kid Named Cudi and Dat Kid From Cleveland (which I liked better) and now Im lookin forward to his album

 

tmac200913

I think if Drake raps too much on his album, or feels he has something to prove with the album [like he seemed to feel on Comeback Season] his album will be lame. Drake is always best at the happy medium of Rap, and Pop...where we see songs like "Say What's Real" and "Little Bit." When he gets too poppy [Best I Ever Had] or tries to go too hard [75% of the stuff on Comeback Season] he's really lame. As far as the Young Money affialiates go, I doubt the album will be drowned out by them--Wayne's album wasn't torched with Young Money labelmates.

 

 

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On a side note, how many of you guys think some of these up and coming artists will never drop their albums. A few years back everyone was hyping Saigon, and Papoose as the next big thing. Two years later, and neither has seen their first album come to fruitation.

I could see Wale's debut never coming out, at least not on a major label. I'm not sure how marketable he actually is, compared to Drake, or Asher Roth. I could see Charles album just being dropped as an online LP, and never come out in stores. The album already got pushed back this year, and it wouldn't surprise me to see it pushed back again.

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I think all these guys learned from Saigon and Asspoose. Their albums should drop in some form. I could see cats like Nino Bless and Nipsy Hustle being stuck in mixtape mode though...
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

Kid Cudi has an album coming out soon too and I think it has the potential to do some nice numbers. Say what you will about him, I like him most of the time. Day N Nite proved he has hit potential in him as well. He's not a lyricist by any means, but I do enjoy listening to songs like Man on the Moon, Heaven At Night, and Sky Might Fall...

Man on the Moon trailer

Colt45fool

Yeah, Cudi completely slipped my mind. I liked that Day N' Nite song though....it's like, the perfect song to trip off of. Imagine being on acid, or smoking a blunt and then watching that music video :lol: I'd bug out for real :?

ummmmmm no. :/
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B.o.B will drop a dope album.

Drake will go platinum and he is the only one that will probably sell plat. and his album will be ight.

Kid Cudi will put out a dope album to.

Stack Bundles solo album might come out this year, or next who knows? Maybe never, maybe Clue working on it as we speak.

They always talk about it, so where is it at!?

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I still think the crazy thing about all these dudes is most of them (if not all) are doing this with out any major label help. Sure Drake just annouced he signed to Young Money and will be distributed through Universal but he has had "Best I Ever Had" owning the airwaves, #2 song on iTunes and BET went nuts over him last night all from a mixtape. Crazy stuff. I'm exicited for Drake - I just hope he doesn't get over hyped...:lol: though many might think he already is. Should be intersting to see how things pan out for him.

Gotta say I'm most excited about Wale - I LOVED the Back To The Feature mixtape. Cudi should be dope if he doesn't get to weird - he seems very Lupe to me as far as who he will be down the road, I think they might have similar careers.

I'm pretty OD'ed on Charles Hamilton material and probably wont check much of his stuff out until an album finally drops, if it drops, when it drops...

You guys like that homie Big Sean? I kind of like a lot of his stuff.

Also gotta mention Mike Posner - I think he will have a big rest of the year. Watch out. 

 

 

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If any new artist is going to drop a classic, it's going to be Jay Electronica.
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Wale will drop the best album no doubt
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So far, I'm hyped for Jay Electronica, B.o.B, Mickey Factz, and Wale the most.
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whoever can use auto tune the most will sell the most
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Mickey Factz gonna own 2009.-PuLse

Yeah, just like Asher Roth, right?

So far, I'm hyped for Jay Electronica, B.o.B, Mickey Factz, and Wale the most.bc1391
Well, idc who you're hyped about. Anybody can tell me who they're hyped about. There are like 6 threads on who everyone's hyped about as far as new up and coming artists.  But who has the most c|assic potential? Who's going to drop the best debut album?

And for the people who are saying none of them will drop a c|assic debut, do you think they have the potential to in the future? I mean, why are you hyping up these guys, if you don't think they can drop a c|assic disc down the road?

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I still think the crazy thing about all these dudes is most of them (if not all) are doing this with out any major label help. Sure Drake just annouced he signed to Young Money and will be distributed through Universal but he has had "Best I Ever Had" owning the airwaves, #2 song on iTunes and BET went nuts over him last night all from a mixtape. Crazy stuff. I'm exicited for Drake - I just hope he doesn't get over hyped...:lol: though many might think he already is. Should be intersting to see how things pan out for him.

Gotta say I'm most excited about Wale - I LOVED the Back To The Feature mixtape. Cudi should be dope if he doesn't get to weird - he seems very Lupe to me as far as who he will be down the road, I think they might have similar careers.

I'm pretty OD'ed on Charles Hamilton material and probably wont check much of his stuff out until an album finally drops, if it drops, when it drops...

You guys like that homie Big Sean? I kind of like a lot of his stuff.

Also gotta mention Mike Posner - I think he will have a big rest of the year. Watch out. 

 

 

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OD'ed on Charles Hamilton? There's no such thing.
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[QUOTE="-PuLse"]Mickey Factz gonna own 2009.Colt45fool

Yeah, just like Asher Roth, right?

What does Asher have to do with Mickey Factz?

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#28 Colt45fool
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]Mickey Factz gonna own 2009.-PuLse

Yeah, just like Asher Roth, right?

What does Asher have to do with Mickey Factz?

Nothing, besides the fact that you're hyping him up :P
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#29 -PuLse
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[QUOTE="-PuLse"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]Mickey Factz gonna own 2009.Colt45fool

Yeah, just like Asher Roth, right?

What does Asher have to do with Mickey Factz?

Nothing, besides the fact that you're hyping him up :P

Yeah well...Mickey Factz is better than Asher in every way.

Don't ignore him because I'm hyping him up, a bunch of other people are too. :P

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Yup, definitely Jay Electronica. And Crooked I. :P

Though I'm guessing group albums don't count.

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#31 gamr92
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Jay Electronica and Charles Hamilton are the only dudes i keep up with. Jay Electronica takes a dookie on all the 'up and coming' rappers though.
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Wale That's his name don't forget
It's not a game
Hold ya dame
Cause his thang sumthin vicious
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Jay Electronica, IMO. I feel his music the most. I do think that Drake, Wale, & B.O.B. are gonna make dope albums, but nothing that could be a classic. I think that Jay has the rhymes and the production to drop a classic.
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I'm sorry but does anyone else besides myself and streetballer listen to Wiz Khalifa? He's better than or equal to most of those artists up there. Prince of the City 1/2 and Flight School >>>>>> There mixtapes.
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Oh but Jay Electronica is dope haha.
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#36 elpooz
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Saigon da don... duh.

Naw really though, Drake and CH can drop classics imo. CH has more of a chance than Drake though.

Wale... I dunno. I doubt I will skip a single track on that album, just because I love dude so much, but I'm only calling it classic if he does something innovative. HINT HINT MAKE A GOGO RAP ALBUM WALE HINT HINT INTEGRATE GO GO WITH THE HIP HOP AND YOUR ILLY RHYMES/FLOW HINT HINT.

Mickey Factz is dope.... but he isn't dropping a classic.

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#37 elpooz
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And Jay Electronica could drop a classic easy. I'm assured of that every time I listen to Eternal Sunshine. It's not even a question to me... that dude can drop a classic album. If he produces it all himself and spits like he normally does, dopeness will be created. If people don't see that... I don't know what's up. That track has to be easily one of the best songs of the 2000s...
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How yall feel about Skyzoo? He may drop a classic with his debut coming in August
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#39 Toriko42
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How come no talk about Bishop Lamont's The Reformation. I can't wait for this album
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#40 djwestwood
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Recommend me some CH please (songs only)
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#41 elpooz
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Recommend me some CH please (songs only)djwestwood

Don't have any of my music with me right now...

Off of the top of my head, Windows Media Player , Tears of Fire, November 10th, and Starchasers (this isn't the real name I think, but youtube has it as this...). These are probably some of his more popular ones...

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Recommend me some CH please (songs only)djwestwood

I would but theres none that are really any good

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Jay Electronica, if his album comes out...it'll stomp eveyone you listed...even CHfat_rob

you can't predict hip hop

cmon rob you know that

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Kid Cudi has an album coming out soon too and I think it has the potential to do some nice numbers. Say what you will about him,  I like him most of the time. Day N Nite proved he has hit potential in him as well. He's not a lyricist by any means, but I do enjoy listening to songs like Man on the Moon, Heaven At Night, and Sky Might Fall...

Man on the Moon trailer

 

Orlando_Magic

Man on the Moon is by far my favorite Cudi track

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I'm sorry but does anyone else besides myself and streetballer listen to Wiz Khalifa? He's better than or equal to most of those artists up there. Prince of the City 1/2 and Flight School >>>>>> There mixtapes.Magna_Man109
He got a lot of fans.
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[QUOTE="Magna_Man109"]I'm sorry but does anyone else besides myself and streetballer listen to Wiz Khalifa? He's better than or equal to most of those artists up there. Prince of the City 1/2 and Flight School >>>>>> There mixtapes.BLBxLakers24
He got a lot of fans.

Not too many on here I guess... Hes on par with all the guys listed in this thread so far.

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#47 BLBxLakers24
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[QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"][QUOTE="Magna_Man109"]I'm sorry but does anyone else besides myself and streetballer listen to Wiz Khalifa? He's better than or equal to most of those artists up there. Prince of the City 1/2 and Flight School >>>>>> There mixtapes.Magna_Man109

He got a lot of fans.

Not too many on here I guess... Hes on par with all the guys listed in this thread so far.

Indeed. A lot of people on here only D ride certain artist thats why.
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#48 Magna_Man109
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[QUOTE="Magna_Man109"]

[QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"][QUOTE="Magna_Man109"]I'm sorry but does anyone else besides myself and streetballer listen to Wiz Khalifa? He's better than or equal to most of those artists up there. Prince of the City 1/2 and Flight School >>>>>> There mixtapes.BLBxLakers24

He got a lot of fans.

Not too many on here I guess... Hes on par with all the guys listed in this thread so far.

Indeed. A lot of people on here only D ride certain artist thats why.

Haha very true but to each his own. I like listening to a variety of music, and then the D riding occurs.

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#49 andyboiii
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I was actually listening to Flight School earlier today, I need to listen to Prince of the City first before I make my final judgement on him. I like him from my first listen though
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#50 Magna_Man109
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I was actually listening to Flight School earlier today, I need to listen to Prince of the City first before I make my final judgement on him. I like him from my first listen thoughandyboiii

Nice. Flight School was a very dope mixtape, just wait until you hear Prince of the City.Â