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#51 -Halftime-
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Lol, Kanye worth listening to, Lol
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#52 a_ratchet_fan
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Lol, Kanye worth listening to, Lol-Halftime-
I was thinking the same about J. Cole.
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#53 Black-Demon
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Soon as I saw "Tyler" and "dope" in the same sentence I stopped right there and continued laughing.
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#54 elpooz
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]Earl is dope but it really suffers from bad beats.... It could have done well with some of the later OF production like on Goblin and the stuff from the Mellowhype albums...AL_GREEN

I haven't listened to Goblin yet, but i heard the production on it BLOW CHUNKS.

oh and this thread owns.

production on every odd future album sucks

Wow the ignorance in this thread has just crossed the line and needs to be stopped. You must not have a very good ear for hip hop because OF production is phenomenal. Some of the best right now actually. Left Brain might literally be a beast and Tyler and Syd have made their fair share of dope beats also.

Even using fruit loops or garage band or w/e they've managed to produce some dope mixtapes/albums. Music way better than almost anything out right now. Might even go as far as using the word genius in some instances (Earlmatic, Yonkers video, the beat on Cashmere, etc.)

Other than J.Cole and Kanye West who actually has talent and is worth listening to in the rap game? Nobody. Would you rather listen to Lupe Fiasco rap the bottom line of CNN? Kid Cudi cry more? Eminem sing about holding hands? Whatever ratchet is posting in that other thread?Mainstream sucks and underground is no better. Rap is talentless garbage right now and OF is one of the few groups still putting out DOPE music. They just need Earl back because he's the 3rd best rapper of all time.

Im done.

Blu, Charles Hamilton, Jay Electron, Elzhi, Black Milk, Guilty Simpson, Jazz Liberatorz, Fashawn, Curren$y, Big KRIT, and Lil B are all talentless :|? That's just off the top of my head, and I could give you a list of dozens of current artists that have talent and are worth listening to... Some of those guys haven't released an album/mixtape in a year or two, but still... Eminem, Lupe, and Kid Cudi don't represent Hip-Hop... not at all.

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#55 Apocalypse33
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^^ hate to break it to you, but Em is the biggest hip hop artist of all time, he does represent hip-hop.  And Lupe and Kid Cudi (ugh) are some of the bigger mainstream acts in hip hop today.  So those artists do have a major impact on the public perception.

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#56 Omzzz
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 ^^ hate to break it to you, but Em is the biggest hip hop artist of all time, he does represent hip-hop.  

Apocalypse33

yeah, to ****ers who dont know anything about rap at all 

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#57 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]

 ^^ hate to break it to you, but Em is the biggest hip hop artist of all time, he does represent hip-hop.  

Omzzz

yeah, to ****ers who dont know anything about rap at all 

well, if you're a hip hop head, it doesn't matter who's big or not, you'll find what you like.  If you're a member of the majority of the world, however....

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#58 elpooz
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Eminem is not the face of Hip-Hop. When you think of the genre, Eminem isn't what comes to mind, but rather different groups, collectives, solo artists, etc. No one artist represents any genre or speaks for the quality of it either. Is Eminem really popular? Yeah... he doesn't solely represent Hip-Hop though, not by a longshot.
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#59 Toriko42
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You ask some random person at my university or on the street to name a hip hop artist and it's gonna be Em or Wayne maybe Jay-Z. That's just the way it is. Why we arguing over this though? Who represents hip hop has no bearing on who makes good music.
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#60 andyboiii
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you guys all though Al_Green was trolling when he's been serious about these OF posts :lol:
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#61 elpooz
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You ask some random person at my university or on the street to name a hip hop artist and it's gonna be Em or Wayne maybe Jay-Z. That's just the way it is. Why we arguing over this though? Who represents hip hop has no bearing on who makes good music. Toriko42

Canadians don't count :P

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#62 Toriko42
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I really doubt I ask some dude from LA to name the first rapper that comes to their head they gonna say Sean Price or something lol
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]Earl is dope but it really suffers from bad beats.... It could have done well with some of the later OF production like on Goblin and the stuff from the Mellowhype albums...AL_GREEN

I haven't listened to Goblin yet, but i heard the production on it BLOW CHUNKS.

oh and this thread owns. 

production on every odd future album sucks

Wow the ignorance in this thread has just crossed the line and needs to be stopped. You must not have a very good ear for hip hop because OF production is phenomenal. Some of the best right now actually. Left Brain might literally be a beast and Tyler and Syd have made their fair share of dope beats also.

Even using fruit loops or garage band or w/e they've managed to produce some dope mixtapes/albums. Music way better than almost anything out right now. Might even go as far as using the word genius in some instances (Earlmatic, Yonkers video, the beat on Cashmere, etc.)  

Other than J.Cole and Kanye West who actually has talent and is worth listening to in the rap game? Nobody. Would you rather listen to Lupe Fiasco rap the bottom line of CNN? Kid Cudi cry more? Eminem sing about holding hands? Whatever ratchet is posting in that other thread?Mainstream sucks and underground is no better. Rap is talentless garbage right now and OF is one of the few groups still putting out DOPE music. They just need Earl back because he's the 3rd best rapper of all time.

 Im done.

Ah, I see you added more. Let me add another one to your "would you rather" list... would you rather listen to a bunch of teenagers give their hipster take on horrorcore? Nope.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]Earl is dope but it really suffers from bad beats.... It could have done well with some of the later OF production like on Goblin and the stuff from the Mellowhype albums...AL_GREEN

I haven't listened to Goblin yet, but i heard the production on it BLOW CHUNKS.

oh and this thread owns. 

production on every odd future album sucks

Wow the ignorance in this thread has just crossed the line and needs to be stopped. You must not have a very good ear for hip hop because OF production is phenomenal. Some of the best right now actually. Left Brain might literally be a beast and Tyler and Syd have made their fair share of dope beats also.

Even using fruit loops or garage band or w/e they've managed to produce some dope mixtapes/albums. Music way better than almost anything out right now. Might even go as far as using the word genius in some instances (Earlmatic, Yonkers video, the beat on Cashmere, etc.)  

Other than J.Cole and Kanye West who actually has talent and is worth listening to in the rap game? Nobody. Would you rather listen to Lupe Fiasco rap the bottom line of CNN? Kid Cudi cry more? Eminem sing about holding hands? Whatever ratchet is posting in that other thread?Mainstream sucks and underground is no better. Rap is talentless garbage right now and OF is one of the few groups still putting out DOPE music. They just need Earl back because he's the 3rd best rapper of all time.

 Im done.

i haven't heard too many albums i liked the last 2 years or so honestly. im kinda bored with rap tbh
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[QUOTE="AL_GREEN"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]Earl is dope but it really suffers from bad beats.... It could have done well with some of the later OF production like on Goblin and the stuff from the Mellowhype albums...elpooz

I haven't listened to Goblin yet, but i heard the production on it BLOW CHUNKS.

oh and this thread owns.

production on every odd future album sucks

Wow the ignorance in this thread has just crossed the line and needs to be stopped. You must not have a very good ear for hip hop because OF production is phenomenal. Some of the best right now actually. Left Brain might literally be a beast and Tyler and Syd have made their fair share of dope beats also.

Even using fruit loops or garage band or w/e they've managed to produce some dope mixtapes/albums. Music way better than almost anything out right now. Might even go as far as using the word genius in some instances (Earlmatic, Yonkers video, the beat on Cashmere, etc.)

Other than J.Cole and Kanye West who actually has talent and is worth listening to in the rap game? Nobody. Would you rather listen to Lupe Fiasco rap the bottom line of CNN? Kid Cudi cry more? Eminem sing about holding hands? Whatever ratchet is posting in that other thread?Mainstream sucks and underground is no better. Rap is talentless garbage right now and OF is one of the few groups still putting out DOPE music. They just need Earl back because he's the 3rd best rapper of all time.

Im done.

Blu, Charles Hamilton, Jay Electron, Elzhi, Black Milk, Guilty Simpson, Jazz Liberatorz, Fashawn, Curren$y, Big KRIT, and Lil B are all talentless :|? That's just off the top of my head, and I could give you a list of dozens of current artists that have talent and are worth listening to... Some of those guys haven't released an album/mixtape in a year or two, but still... Eminem, Lupe, and Kid Cudi don't represent Hip-Hop... not at all.

Pooz, even when someone else is wrong, you somehow find a way to be MORE WRONG than them. I just don't get it :lol:
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#66 Colt45fool
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[QUOTE="AL_GREEN"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]Earl is dope but it really suffers from bad beats.... It could have done well with some of the later OF production like on Goblin and the stuff from the Mellowhype albums...mems_1224

I haven't listened to Goblin yet, but i heard the production on it BLOW CHUNKS.

oh and this thread owns. 

production on every odd future album sucks

Wow the ignorance in this thread has just crossed the line and needs to be stopped. You must not have a very good ear for hip hop because OF production is phenomenal. Some of the best right now actually. Left Brain might literally be a beast and Tyler and Syd have made their fair share of dope beats also.

Even using fruit loops or garage band or w/e they've managed to produce some dope mixtapes/albums. Music way better than almost anything out right now. Might even go as far as using the word genius in some instances (Earlmatic, Yonkers video, the beat on Cashmere, etc.)  

Other than J.Cole and Kanye West who actually has talent and is worth listening to in the rap game? Nobody. Would you rather listen to Lupe Fiasco rap the bottom line of CNN? Kid Cudi cry more? Eminem sing about holding hands? Whatever ratchet is posting in that other thread?Mainstream sucks and underground is no better. Rap is talentless garbage right now and OF is one of the few groups still putting out DOPE music. They just need Earl back because he's the 3rd best rapper of all time.

 Im done.

i haven't heard too many albums i liked the last 2 years or so honestly. im kinda bored with rap tbh

I need to get you some indie music to listen to :)

Rap's had some dope music the past few years...better than the crap I was bumping in '05 or so. South and West coast have it on lock if you ask me...especially the south. 

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#67 elpooz
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Yep, Eminem represents Hip-Hop and everything that makes it up... Kid Cudi and Lupe Fiasco too :roll:... That's all you need, listen to them and you'll have an idea of exactly what every other artist in this genre is like and how much talent they have. Makes sense. 

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#68 AL_GREEN
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Yep, Eminem represents Hip-Hop and everything that makes it up... Kid Cudi and Lupe Fiasco too :roll:... That's all you need, listen to them and you'll have an idea of exactly what every other artist in this genre is like and how much talent they have. Makes sense. 

elpooz

Don't forget Charles Hamilton 

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#69 TheHimura
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

Yep, Eminem represents Hip-Hop and everything that makes it up... Kid Cudi and Lupe Fiasco too :roll:... That's all you need, listen to them and you'll have an idea of exactly what every other artist in this genre is like and how much talent they have. Makes sense. 

AL_GREEN

Don't forget Charles Hamilton 

c-h-a-r spittin like an AR.

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#70 Apocalypse33
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Yep, Eminem represents Hip-Hop and everything that makes it up... Kid Cudi and Lupe Fiasco too :roll:... That's all you need, listen to them and you'll have an idea of exactly what every other artist in this genre is like and how much talent they have. Makes sense. 

elpooz

you really have no grasp of what represent means, do you?  Let me give you an example: Barack Obama represents America.  Does that mean every single person in America shares his ideals?  Does that even mean the majority of America shares his ideals (which may be so but is not a given with any president).  

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I find dope music here and there,but I've concluded that I'm just not a big fan of modern rap overall. I feel it lost its touch by being so bland,generic,and rehashed over the past few years. Its so formulaic to me now:?
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#72 Apocalypse33
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I find dope music here and there,but I've concluded that I'm just not a big fan of modern rap overall. I feel it lost its touch by being so bland,generic,and rehashed over the past few years. Its so formulaic to me now:?Black-Demon

damn, I feel like the last couple years have actually been better than the few that preceded it

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#73 AL_GREEN
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I find dope music here and there,but I've concluded that I'm just not a big fan of modern rap overall. I feel it lost its touch by being so bland,generic,and rehashed over the past few years. Its so formulaic to me now:?Black-Demon

It's lost it's character/charisma. Which is exactly what OF brings back. Little ninjas really are just having a good time and making music. Only good thing in rap right now don't understand how anybody can hate.

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damn, I feel like the last couple years have actually been better than the few that preceded it

Apocalypse33
haha
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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]I find dope music here and there,but I've concluded that I'm just not a big fan of modern rap overall. I feel it lost its touch by being so bland,generic,and rehashed over the past few years. Its so formulaic to me now:?AL_GREEN

It's lost it's character/charisma. Which is exactly what OF brings back. Little ninjas really are just having a good time and making music. Only good thing in rap right now don't understand how anybody can hate.

I don't understand how you can hate on a region you don't know **** about but that ain't stopping you from doing it... How you can like this: "Earl Sweatshirt - Earl" And hate on this: "Roach Gigz - The Moment ft. Marlo & Young Gully" In the same sentence boggles the mind. If you can't find character/charisma in Bay Area rap then you're either not listening or have no idea what they're talking about. The struggle is what birthed Hip Hop and is the undercurrent of all Bay rap... if you hate the music of the struggle then you hate Hip Hop period.
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#76 Toriko42
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Earl is infinitely better than this Roch Gigz dude...Just makes more enjoyable music...

That said Illmatic is obviously the better album but Earl and OFWGKTA are some of the best making music right now. 

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#77 a_ratchet_fan
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Earl is infinitely better than this Roch Gigz dude...Just makes more enjoyable music...

That said Illmatic is obviously the better album but Earl and OFWGKTA are some of the best making music right now. 

Toriko42
That wasn't the point... preference is preference but hating is another thing. The kind of dude who has the brass balls to get on a pedestal about rap taste while making a thread like this is exactly the reason why hip hop fans are seen as the wackest fans... you don't hear soul, jazz or rock fans saying half of the stupid **** that rap fans do.
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I find dope music here and there,but I've concluded that I'm just not a big fan of modern rap overall. I feel it lost its touch by being so bland,generic,and rehashed over the past few years. Its so formulaic to me now:?Black-Demon

Agreed for the most part.
 

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#79 elpooz
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

Yep, Eminem represents Hip-Hop and everything that makes it up... Kid Cudi and Lupe Fiasco too :roll:... That's all you need, listen to them and you'll have an idea of exactly what every other artist in this genre is like and how much talent they have. Makes sense. 

Apocalypse33

you really have no grasp of what represent means, do you?  Let me give you an example: Barack Obama represents America.  Does that mean every single person in America shares his ideals?  Does that even mean the majority of America shares his ideals (which may be so but is not a given with any president).  

 

The way AL was talking about Eminem/Kid Cudi/Lupe made it sound like he was using them to define how much talent is in the genre and what kind of variety there is in it. That's very different from what you're getting at... If he were to just have said that Eminem represents Hip-Hop, well duh that would be true, because just like Rakim, Nas, Jay-Z or whoever else, Eminem does represent it to an extent because he's a part of it. But him acting like Eminem's/Cudi's/Lupe's level of talent right now is indicative of the level of talent in the rest of the genre's artists or that the variety in Hip-Hop is limited to what those three artists do is very, very different...

To go along with your Obama analogy, what he was saying would have been the equivalent of him saying that every American was limited to believing what Obama believes, supporting the policies Obama supports, etc... 

I was simply saying that those three artists don't offer an accurate image of everything Hip-Hop has to offer, because that's what he was implying. If he had gone on to say "Blu, making nyquil music?" and "Lil Wayne rapping about cough syrup" or similar things for like every Hip-Hop artist (lol), then that would be different because he wouldn't be ignorantly acting like a handful of artists represent EVERYTHING that this genre is, but he'd just be stating that he thinks EVERY rapper out right now (besides OF ones) are wack... and that would be his opinon, so whatever. Chances are though, he hasn't heard a good amount of music from every active rapper, so him saying "Oh, bay area music sucks, Lupe sucks, Em sucks, and Cudi sucks, so all of Hip-Hop sucks right now, besides OF" isn't justifiable...

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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]I find dope music here and there,but I've concluded that I'm just not a big fan of modern rap overall. I feel it lost its touch by being so bland,generic,and rehashed over the past few years. Its so formulaic to me now:?AL_GREEN

It's lost it's character/charisma. Which is exactly what OF brings back. Little ninjas really are just having a good time and making music. Only good thing in rap right now don't understand how anybody can hate.

Completely agree with that sentence. I feel that nowadays you have to search real hard or hear from word of mouth about good listenable albums/mixtapes coming out rather than checking it on the television screen. And from the way they carry themselves,they do look like they're just out to have fun and put out some musack so I can't hate. Still can't stand their work though

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#81 fat_rob
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No, just no. I like Earl, it's an impressive debut for a 16yrold kid, but the album lacks the depth and complexity of Illmatic.
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Just thought I would throw it out that Nas is doing a track with 3 members of oddfuture. Not Earl of course :P
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#83 AL_GREEN
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Just thought I would throw it out that Nas is doing a track with 3 members of oddfuture. Not Earl of course :PSwanogt19

Gross. If I was Odd Future I would decline. Nas is just gonna ruin it with his bore raps and manage to find the worst beat possible. Any group that has Earl Sweatshirt caliber levels of talent in it shouldn't have to lower themselves to rapping with Nas.

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#84 fat_rob
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Just thought I would throw it out that Nas is doing a track with 3 members of oddfuture. Not Earl of course :PSwanogt19
link?
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#85 Omzzz
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link?fat_rob

dis da link hurr 

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#86 LTomlinson21
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I gave some of these songs at the beginning of the thread a try and I would have to say I was bored listening to them. Earl sounds decent and is better than a lot of the terrible rappers today, but yeah...
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#87 SuperSaiyanLink
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worst thread I've ever seen.
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worst thread I've ever seen.SuperSaiyanLink
Thank you...
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#91 Toriko42
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This threads discussion is dead. Can we get a lock in here before anyone gets moderated?
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lol nobody mods here anymore
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#95 AL_GREEN
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Earls back bout to tear up rap game suckas.

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#96 jg4xchamp
Member since 2006 • 64054 Posts
Illmatic by a long shot.

****, my bad this thread is old.