MTV's Hottest MCs In The Game (Updated: Honorable Mentions; Future of Hip Hop )

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After "The Greatest Hip-Hop Albums of All Time,""The Greatest MCs ofAll Time" and "The Greatest Hip-Hop Groups Of All Time," the MTV News hip-hop brain trust - hate 'em or love 'em - went back to the infamous round table and decided upon another list. Yes, the same type of list that our pick for the #1 MC of all time, Jay-Z, told you not to get mad at him about in Beyoncé's "Deja Vu"! This time is way different from the previous adventures: Rather than analyzing the "Greatest of All Time," we decided to break down what's going on today - as in not now, but right now! We looked at the work of the most prominent MCs of the past year or so and factored in the following: straight-up skills, success (both musical and entrepreneurial), impact on the game and - new to our decision-making - swagger: an MC's cool factor and how they carry themselves on and off recordings.

Just like every other time, prior to convening, all nine brain trustees came up with their own lists, choosing who they felt were the MCs keeping things steamy these days. Once all nine lists were in, we mathematically tallied a master list. Each rapper got 10 points for every time they were ranked #1, nine points for #2 and so forth. Once that was accomplished, we sat down at the table and fought it out. Some people who were originally on the master list were taken off and replaced with MCs from outside the mathematical top 10; others rose or fell within the top 10. It was crazy!

Well, here we go again. Starting with #10, you'll get an MC a day Monday through Friday this week - and then we'll roll out 1 through 5 when "Hottest MCs in the Game" airs on MTV2 on Sunday.

The Dipset capo may not have raw skills like some of the other MCs on this list, but what he lacks in a traditional category like lyrical ability, he more than compensates with his overall passion and swagger for the game. Jimmy has come a long way from being Cam'ron's hypeman back in the day. Single-handedly, he launched the whole rock-star-in-the-'hood movement: From his skull-and-bones look down to his chained wallet, Jones has more clones on the block than an old zombie flick.

But it ain't just Jones' True Religion jeans that helped him make the cut. Check last year's Hustler's P.O.M.E. (Product of My Environment) and you'll find more than enough proof that Jimmy has fully come into his own as one of the top voices of the streets. From a vulnerable joint like "Emotionless" to the full-on rumble of "Reppin' Time," he's expanding his subject matter and developing more than ever as an artist.

But the main reason why he's hot shouldn't be much of a surprise, and it comes down to one word: "Baaaaallin'!" Jones' "We Fly High" ad-lib and the hoop-shot dance from the video became an unlikely pop-culture phenomenon. Just about anywhere you went - from Cali to Coney Island - you heard the song and saw someone doing the dance. Even the New York Giants adopted the move as a ritual after a big play, solidifying Jones' status as a true rap star.

Jimmy returned the love, putting together a Giants remix of the song, which became the first of a ton of remixes he's done in the past year. His phone blew up with calls from DJ Unk, Rich Boy and Game, making him one of the most-requested MCs. The calls kept coming as Jimmy went on tour with Jeezy in the spring, but soon setbacks and tragedy popped up when he went public with his feud with Cam'ron, and his close friend and Byrd Gang member Stack Bundles was murdered in June. With another close friend home from prison in Max B. and a Byrd Gang album on the way, hopefully things will improve for Jones.

Co-Signer: T.I.
"Jim got his swag together this year. He really popped himself off. He's [a hustler] like Jeezy - when people first started hearing about Jeezy, it wasn't for rapping. I think Jim gets the same ... that goes with street cred. Street cred and swagger. That's why I feel he should be high up on the list. I mean, he had a hit record: A no-brainer, an unadulterated hit record, not just something that some people liked and it got drilled into your head so much you got forced to like it. You gotta give credit when credit is due."

Blistering Ballistics
"The young and the restless live life reckless (Harlem!)/ House money on the necklace, the pigs want him arrested/ 'Cause I'm obsessed with the guns and the vests (I love them)/ 'Cause when you getting cake, the candles come with a death wish/ The rock star living (What else?), the hot cars and women (Lavish life)/ Let God forgive him, hope the cop cars don't get 'em (Squalie!)/ This is for them n---as that, at the club throwing stacks (Baalllin'!)/ It's 'Star Wars,' they threw two, I threw four back/ And I'm back, it's Mr. New York City/ My hat to the back, I stay flyer than a Frisbee" ("Reppin' Time")

Hot Streak
Album: Hustler's P.O.M.E. (Product of My Environment) (2006)

Selected Mixtapes
Jim Jones Presents: M.O.B. (Members of Byrdgang), DJ Drama & Jim Jones: The Seven Day Theory

Singles
"We Fly High," "Emotionless"

Street Bangers
"We Fly High" remix (featuring Diddy, T.I., Juelz Santana, Birdman and Young Dro); "We Fly High" beef mix with Jay-Z verse (featuring Juelz Santana); "Reppin' Time"; "Weatherman" (featuring Lil Wayne and Stack Bundles)

Key Guest Appearances
DJ Unk's "Walk It Out" and "2 Step" remixes, Rich Boy's "Throw Some D's" remix, Shop Boyz's "Party Like a Rockstar" remix, Game's "It's Okay (One Blood)" remix, Lil' Flip's "I Get Money," Pitbull's "Sticky Icky"

Business Ventures
Launching Nostic Apparel clothing line, CEO of Byrdgang record label, co-CEO of Diplomats Records, co-CEO of Sizzurp liquor, director of A&R for Warner Music Group.

Tours
Young Jeezy's I Am the Street Dream tour (spring 2007)

#10-- Jim Jones

#9-- Common

#8-- 50 Cent



#7-- Jay-Z



#6-- Young Jeezy

#5-- Kanye West

#4-- Andre 3000



#3-- The Game



#2-- T.I.



#1-- Lil Wayne

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Honorable Mentions:

Nas
First off, we'll say that lyrically, Nas still has the strength and forethought of a king, the insight of a scholar and the respect of a veteran. He set off one of the most provocative debates in the past few years by declaring hip-hop dead. Whether you are like some, such as Young Jeezy and T.I. (just listen to T.I. vs T.I.P.), who strongly disagreed, or others like the Game who stood by him and his declaration, Esco got the hip-hop community talking and reflecting. Hip Hop Is Dead showed that age and a label change have not rusted him at all: His mic is deadly. What might have prevented Nas from making the top 10 in the minds of some brain trust members was that his overall presence has died down considerably in the past few months. Records that the fans were screaming for, like "Black Republican" and "Hustlers," were never pushed with a single or a video. After only two singles, the album's promotion basically ceased. Nas has been keeping busy recording his next opus, as well as selling out shows on a one-man tour of clubs and theater-size venues. He's on the Rock the Bells summer tour too.

Ludacris
What kept 'Cris from two-stepping onto the top 10 list is that he's too damn talented! He makes it look easy, and some of the brain trust members might've taken him for granted. He's been one of the most consistently dope artists since he debuted five albums ago - inventing flows, levying one-liners and, more importantly, building a deep catalog and selling albums. His most recent effort, 2006's Release Therapy, was no different. The album went platinum and had a #1 single with "Money Maker," and Ludacris won his first two Grammys for his efforts. But he has slowed down since performing the smash "Runaway Love" with Mary J. Blige at the Grammy Awards in February. The single and video for "Slap" were seemingly pulled back after getting spins, and other potentially big singles, like "Girls Gone Wild," were never released.

Fabolous
"Make Me Better" is definitely one of the biggest hip-hop records of the year - a few more of those and Fab could have been among the top 10. He's just starting to get his guest-appearance game up with cameos alongside people like Mario, and his "Baby Don't Go" is a sure shot once his current single dies out. Fab does have to lose his cool a little more often during his live performances though - he's too swagger-heavy sometimes.

Yung Joc
Joc is heating up! Guest spots on T-Pain's "Buy You a Drank (Shawty Snappin')" and Lloyd's "Get It Shawty" had his name buzzing last spring. A new single, "Play Your Cards," has just been released, and "Coffee Shop" is doing well - although it's no "It's Goin' Down." But look for Joc - who has slimmed down by at least 50 pounds - to start igniting more interest with his stint on the Screamfest tour, as well as singles from Hustlenomics. He has them hooks!

Chamillionaire
The melodic flow isn't original, but ohhhh, is it on point. Cham is one of the hardest workers in the game right now: His fanbase has grown from his Houston hometown to the world. "Ridin' " rode right out of 2006 and made its way onto an episode of "The Sopranos." How trill is that? Koopa is about to drop his next album, Ultimate Victory, in the next few months, and the video for the first single, "Hip-Hop Police," is a definite winner.

Pusha T
Absolutely no disrespect to his older brother and Clipse-mate Malice the Patty Cake Man, but we could only choose one artist per slot! Clipse are one of our favorite groups for sure, but we leaned in favorof the Pushaman. He's more visible, jumps on more guest spots and, let's face it, he keeps a mean 16 handy, like on "Jokes on You": "My brother my partner for real like Wayans ... Diamonds the size of Robin Harris' eyes/ I BeBe Kids my neck." The lethally raw Hell Hath No Fury still gets played in our MP3 players (though never getting a video for "Trill" was heartbreaking). Stop sleeping!

Rick Ross
Unfortunately for Ross, he simply got caught in between albums: It's been too long since he dropped Port of Miami but way too soon to factor in his upcoming Trilla. (Only one or two of the brain trust members have heard material from the new album.) Anyway, let's not digress. Rawwwwse is still sick with the wordplay - just listen to his recent appearances on Rick Ross' "Feds Takin' Pictures," and DJ Khaled's "We Takin' Over" and "Brown Paper Bag."

Fat Joe
Appearances on "We Takin' Over," "Brown Paper Bag" and the unofficial remix to Musiq Soulchild's "B.U.D.D.Y." have helped maintain Joe's hip-hop VIP card over the past few months, but he hasn't erupted with his own smash since his "Make It Rain" and its remix clapped fans at the top of the year. But hey, even "Crillzmania" can take a chill pill every once in a while.

Snoop Dogg
Snoop is eternally hot, one of the biggest legends that's still doing hard work these days. "That's That Sh--" and Akon's "I Wanna F---You," on which Snoop was featured, crushed the game months ago, and as soon as R. Kelly stops messing with the "Same Girl" as T-Pain and Usher, the Pied Piper might as well release the Doggfather-featured "Double Up" as a single. It's a smash. But that's Snoop's MO, isn't it? A Dogg hit record is always right around the corner.

Bun B
Bun is always going to be a sentimental favorite among the brain trust members. He's a legend, a pillar of pride and respect, and half of UGK, the 10th Greatest Hip-Hop Group of All Time. Still, you know you can't front - he wrecked the show on UGK's "Int'l Players Anthem," and his assortment of guest appearances on the underground circuit over the past year has shown he can still stomp out a beat.

Rich Boy
"Good Things" is instant summer-heat rock, and "Throw Some D's" was definitely one of the biggest records of 2007. The Alabama native officially put his state on the hip-hop map while vying for rookie of the year. He's still coming into his own as an artist, but you know that as long as he has one of the hottest producers in the game right now - Polow Da Don - championing him and hitting him off with tracks, we haven't heard the last of him.

Swizz Beatz
Swizzy! The legendary producer - who earned the nickname "The Monster" by scoring Godzilla-size hits for everyone from Eve to Busta Rhymes to Jay-Z to Beyoncé - has stepped up to the mic. OK, before you accuse us of blasphemy for labeling Swizz an MC, we're not - even he doesn't consider himself to be an MC. But you can't deny that he entertains like an MC, and with a solo LP on the way, we didn't want to let him slide. This year alone, he's had three of the biggest records in the clubs with "It's Me B---hes," its remix and "Money in the Bank." We all knew his tracks were going to be superb - you can't sleep on his ability to pen hit records. He's also been one of the MCs most requested for guest hooks.

Ghostface Killah
Ironman stood tall with two albums in 2006. He's still struggling with sales unfortunately, but as far as the ingenuity and swagger he brings to the mic go, the Wu-Tang Clansman makes his core audience proud. He's currently on tour with the Wu as part of Rock the Bells.

Juelz Santana
Everywhere is Santana's town. Juelz is the most charismatic member of the Diplomats and, despite the tension in his crew between Cam'ron and Jim Jones, he's been able to stay clear of all beefs while continuing his grind. His swagger has made him iconic with the kids, the ladies love him and even the older fellas are starting to come around. Ayyyyye!

Cassidy
Cass has been heralded as one of the most ferocious new-school MCs, but his rise has been hindered by jail, label friction and a serious car accident. But eventually the elite rise to the top, and Cassidy is heating up crazy right now with a myriad of free**** andthe club banger "Drink N My 2 Step."

Future Shock Four

The future of hip-hop is looking real good. We have a diverse array of potential superstars who are trying to carve out their own special path in the rap world. We feel that someday these guys and lady will make it to the top - it's just a matter of when. They feel that "when" is now and are out to prove it!

1. Papoose - Finally, he's got one! Pap's fans all across the world - yes, he's playing shows in foreign lands quite frequently - are glad that after a few years, he finally has an official single out, and it looks like his debut, The Nacirema Dream, is coming soon. Lyrically, he's as agile as the Flying Graysons on the tightrope. Conceptually, he's so abstract, the fans will have to press "rewind" a few times before they get it all.

2. Plies - "Shawty" is a hit record, but this Florida rapper can do so much more than that. Just research his mixtapes and you'll see that although his name is still growing, his credentials in the streets are A-status. He has a huge presence.

3. Saigon - He's better known by the masses for his appearance on HBO's "Entourage" than for his rhyme skills, but that's OK. Soon everyone will learn. His new single, "Come on Baby," is a no-brainer banger, and by the time the remix with Jay-Z comes out in a few months, he'll already be huge. Sai's main focus is not making you dance, but setting an example for youth and dropping jewels. He's one of the most insightful MCs to come up in a long time.

4. Lil Mama - You could read "superstar" all over her adorable face as soon as it popped up in her video for "Lip Gloss." Not a bad first song - she won hearts, got a lot of accolades in the press and is about to release one of the most anticipated LPs from any newcomer. Mama has an ace up her sleeve too: Besides the commanding personality, swift dance skills and ear catching hooks, she can sing. Look out!

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i can already tell this is gonna be a great list :roll:
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The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?
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The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?Orlando_Magic

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?kobegill

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

The fact that Jim Jones is even on a list of best rappers at the moment shows how much rap has went down hill.....

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[QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?_MURS_

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

The fact that Jim Jones is even on a list of best rappers at the moment shows how much rap has went down hill.....

This is mainstream rap.....

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the pooz is happy as long as weezy is 1st, or as long as he beats T.I. :evil:
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[QUOTE="_MURS_"][QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?kobegill

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

The fact that Jim Jones is even on a list of best rappers at the moment shows how much rap has went down hill.....

This is mainstream rap.....

Well yeah...but I think that MTV should cover all areas of Rap regardless of popularity (which is doubtful beyond belief)....
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damn...this list already flopped...Jim Jones is only top 10 in rappers that look like homeless people...
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[QUOTE="_MURS_"]

The fact that Jim Jones is even on a list of best rappers at the moment shows how much rap has went down hill.....

kobegill

This is mainstream rap.....

The fact that Jim Jones is even on a list of best rappers at the moment shows how much rap has went down hill.....
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?kobegill
Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

Well then what does it take to be an MC if Jim Jones is supposedly one? You don't need to care about lyrics anymore?

I know originally Hip-Hop MC's were about moving the crowd, keeping the party going, but come on. Hip-Hop grew into something better and MC's had to come hard with the lyrics. I know there are other factors but WTF is an MC without the lyrics? It's like rock without the guitars.

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[QUOTE="kobegill"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?bradleybhoy

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

Well then what does it take to be an MC if Jim Jones is supposedly one? You don't need to care about lyrics anymore?

I know originally Hip-Hop MC's were about moving the crowd, keeping the party going, but come on. Hip-Hop grew into something better and MC's had to come hard with the lyrics. I know there are other factors but WTF is an MC without the lyrics? It's like rock without the guitars.

word up son
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[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

[QUOTE="kobegill"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?HaSheeSh_basic

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

Well then what does it take to be an MC if Jim Jones is supposedly one? You don't need to care about lyrics anymore?

I know originally Hip-Hop MC's were about moving the crowd, keeping the party going, but come on. Hip-Hop grew into something better and MC's had to come hard with the lyrics. I know there are other factors but WTF is an MC without the lyrics? It's like rock without the guitars.

word up son

more like rock with crappy singers, and there are many popular bands with crappy singers, basically the majority of hard rock and metal
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Two videos from MTV about this:

Why 'Greatest' Doesn't Mean 'Hottest'

And The 10th Hottest MC is...

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I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....
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I assume by 'hottest', they mean most popular right now...and Jim Jones certainly is that, despite his lack of talent in rapping.

Plus, this is MTV, so what do you expect?

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nice videos
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[QUOTE="_MURS_"][QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?kobegill

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?

The fact that Jim Jones is even on a list of best rappers at the moment shows how much rap has went down hill.....

This is mainstream rap.....

and???

Mainstream wasnt always awful...

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I assume by 'hottest', they mean most popular right now...and Jim Jones certainly is that, despite his lack of talent in rapping.

Plus, this is MTV, so what do you expect?

Rage11

Basically what I was trying to say.

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?kobegill

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?



Yeah I know, but I don't think Jim Jones is top 10...... T.I., Weezy, Jeezy, Kanye West, the Game, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Chamillionaire, Ludacris, Rick Ross would probably the 10 I would choose. And then people like Fabolous, Juelz. Banks, Mike Jones, Young Buck, Jim Jones, Cam, Common, Nas etc. after that...
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[QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?Orlando_Magic

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?



Yeah I know, but I don't think Jim Jones is top 10...... T.I., Weezy, Jeezy, Kanye West, the Game, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Chamillionaire, Ludacris, Rick Ross would probably the 10 I would choose. And then people like Fabolous, Juelz. Banks, Mike Jones, Young Buck, Jim Jones, Cam, Common, Nas etc. after that...

Id say, weezy, T.I., cham, game, Jeezy, Fat joe, jigga, 50, Juelz, and luda.

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?elpooz

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?



Yeah I know, but I don't think Jim Jones is top 10...... T.I., Weezy, Jeezy, Kanye West, the Game, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Chamillionaire, Ludacris, Rick Ross would probably the 10 I would choose. And then people like Fabolous, Juelz. Banks, Mike Jones, Young Buck, Jim Jones, Cam, Common, Nas etc. after that...

Id say, weezy, T.I., cham, game, Jeezy, Fat joe, jigga, 50, Juelz, and luda.

I'd put Jim Jones over Game when it comes to popularity. I barely hear anything about him when it comes to the mainstream after Doctor's Advocate while everybody around me yells out "BAAALIN!" when they shoot a three pointer:lol:

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]The greatest MC's and greatest albums lists MTV did were respectable... but Jim Jones at #10 = :?elpooz

Y'all know they are not talking about lyrically, right?



Yeah I know, but I don't think Jim Jones is top 10...... T.I., Weezy, Jeezy, Kanye West, the Game, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Chamillionaire, Ludacris, Rick Ross would probably the 10 I would choose. And then people like Fabolous, Juelz. Banks, Mike Jones, Young Buck, Jim Jones, Cam, Common, Nas etc. after that...

Id say, weezy, T.I., cham, game, Jeezy, Fat joe, jigga, 50, Juelz, and luda.

No, not Juelz.

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I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....HighPowered94
yo Rahman is that dude...Nas last album sold twice as much as Jimmy's last album...how is Nas not hot if Jones is...**** that Ballin garbage. What defines hot? honestly, is it sales? cause Jimmy's last sold 300,000...imo that ain't hot, that's called bricking.
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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"]I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....fat_rob
yo Rahman is that dude...Nas last album sold twice as much as Jimmy's last album...how is Nas not hot if Jones is...**** that Ballin garbage. What defines hot? honestly, is it sales? cause Jimmy's last sold 300,000...imo that ain't hot, that's called bricking.

Hey Rob, you counting sales now?

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#26 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....kobegill

yo Rahman is that dude...Nas last album sold twice as much as Jimmy's last album...how is Nas not hot if Jones is...**** that Ballin garbage. What defines hot? honestly, is it sales? cause Jimmy's last sold 300,000...imo that ain't hot, that's called bricking.

Hey Rob, you counting sales now?

I just think it's stupid to say Nas isn't hot right now when Nas is pushing more numbers then Jones. Jones had all the hype of Ballin and could only push 300,000 units. That's not hot...that's a flop. Nas had no top ten single and still sold twice what Jones did. How is that not make Nas hot right now? Lil' Wayne, Cham, Luda, Kanye, 50, Jeezy, T.I., and Jay are easily the hottest rappers out if hot means numbers of albums sold. Hot doesn't equal greatest, so they must be talking about album sales...and the truth is, Jim Jones doesn't push ish.
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[QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....fat_rob

yo Rahman is that dude...Nas last album sold twice as much as Jimmy's last album...how is Nas not hot if Jones is...**** that Ballin garbage. What defines hot? honestly, is it sales? cause Jimmy's last sold 300,000...imo that ain't hot, that's called bricking.

Hey Rob, you counting sales now?

I just think it's stupid to say Nas isn't hot right now when Nas is pushing more numbers then Jones. Jones had all the hype of Ballin and could only push 300,000 units. That's not hot...that's a flop. Nas had no top ten single and still sold twice what Jones did. How is that not make Nas hot right now? Lil' Wayne, Cham, Luda, Kanye, 50, Jeezy, T.I., and Jay are easily the hottest rappers out if hot means numbers of albums sold. Hot doesn't equal greatest, so they must be talking about album sales...and the truth is, Jim Jones doesn't push ish.



I want to see if they put Mike Jones on the list. The phrase "Who? Mike Jones" is similiar to "BALLLLIN" and Mikes Jones has WAY bigger sales....
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Well,to my knowledge,I think when they bring up being "hot" it is about who has had songs played on the radio continuosly and who has been pretty popular in the mainstream right now. Jim Jones' album didn't sell much,but it has had HELLA playing time on radio stations. Nas has sold more,but knowing how most rap fans are nowadays following and praising whatever is on the tubes or on the radio,they go by the typical ignorant statement:If it isn't on the radio,it isn't relevant.
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[QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....fat_rob

yo Rahman is that dude...Nas last album sold twice as much as Jimmy's last album...how is Nas not hot if Jones is...**** that Ballin garbage. What defines hot? honestly, is it sales? cause Jimmy's last sold 300,000...imo that ain't hot, that's called bricking.

Hey Rob, you counting sales now?

I just think it's stupid to say Nas isn't hot right now when Nas is pushing more numbers then Jones. Jones had all the hype of Ballin and could only push 300,000 units. That's not hot...that's a flop. Nas had no top ten single and still sold twice what Jones did. How is that not make Nas hot right now? Lil' Wayne, Cham, Luda, Kanye, 50, Jeezy, T.I., and Jay are easily the hottest rappers out if hot means numbers of albums sold. Hot doesn't equal greatest, so they must be talking about album sales...and the truth is, Jim Jones doesn't push ish.

what about dem ringtone sales, aye?!?! where are nas' platnium ringtone plaques, b?!?!

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....Colt45fool

yo Rahman is that dude...Nas last album sold twice as much as Jimmy's last album...how is Nas not hot if Jones is...**** that Ballin garbage. What defines hot? honestly, is it sales? cause Jimmy's last sold 300,000...imo that ain't hot, that's called bricking.

Hey Rob, you counting sales now?

I just think it's stupid to say Nas isn't hot right now when Nas is pushing more numbers then Jones. Jones had all the hype of Ballin and could only push 300,000 units. That's not hot...that's a flop. Nas had no top ten single and still sold twice what Jones did. How is that not make Nas hot right now? Lil' Wayne, Cham, Luda, Kanye, 50, Jeezy, T.I., and Jay are easily the hottest rappers out if hot means numbers of albums sold. Hot doesn't equal greatest, so they must be talking about album sales...and the truth is, Jim Jones doesn't push ish.

what about dem ringtone sales, aye?!?! where are nas' platnium ringtone plaques, b?!?!

:lol:

I agree with rob on the jones subject...

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="kobegill"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]I see Rahman is holding his own ground on that debate. Dude reminds me of fat rob & Hash....Colt45fool

yo Rahman is that dude...Nas last album sold twice as much as Jimmy's last album...how is Nas not hot if Jones is...**** that Ballin garbage. What defines hot? honestly, is it sales? cause Jimmy's last sold 300,000...imo that ain't hot, that's called bricking.

Hey Rob, you counting sales now?

I just think it's stupid to say Nas isn't hot right now when Nas is pushing more numbers then Jones. Jones had all the hype of Ballin and could only push 300,000 units. That's not hot...that's a flop. Nas had no top ten single and still sold twice what Jones did. How is that not make Nas hot right now? Lil' Wayne, Cham, Luda, Kanye, 50, Jeezy, T.I., and Jay are easily the hottest rappers out if hot means numbers of albums sold. Hot doesn't equal greatest, so they must be talking about album sales...and the truth is, Jim Jones doesn't push ish.

what about dem ringtone sales, aye?!?! where are nas' platnium ringtone plaques, b?!?!

:lol: lmfao
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Why He's Hot
Battle-tested. A regional pioneer. And time-weathered. Common's r-sum- already reads like one of the most accomplished rappers of the past 10 years. But in 2005, the Windy City MC resurrected his career following the underwhelming Electric Circus by joining forces with Kanye West for Be, his sixth studio album, which not only featured Com's usual razor-sharp wit but also brought a much-welcomed return to the rapper's street-hardened sound, which had been missing since his earlier records.

Tracks like "Chi-City" and "The Food" brought out the best in the gifted lyricist, as he proved to be both boastful and sincere - satisfying his expanding fanbase, whether it's block huggers or those coffee-shop chicks - over West's neck-snapping drums and kicks. Be earned plenty of accolades, from ****c ratings in rap mags to four Grammy nods, including Best Rap Album. Com even snagged his second gold record in the process, along with a Gap campaign and a few movie roles. His follow-up, the Kanye-helmed Finding Forever, drops July 31, and the first two tracks, "The Game" and "The People," are a good sign for any fans of the Nag Champa champ. Over Preemo's scratched chorus on "The Game," Com sounds hungrier than a young MJ gunning for his first Larry O'Brien trophy: "Punch lines are like jab pits to rappers/ Whose careers are now ashes/ It's too many slashes in his name/ Came in the game as gun clappers/ From weak rhymes to clothing lines to an actress."

The rest of the year should see Com guesting on other artists' records, and Finding Forever should bolster his credentials even further as tracks like the monster "Southside" become available to the masses. He's not as frivolous with material as other MCs, so there aren't many mixtapes to choose from. In fact, his albums rarely have many tracks - but what Common lacks in quantity he more than makes up for with a quality that only a few of his peers in the game - now and ever - could match.

Co-Signer: Ja Rule
"Common is like wine - he's getting better with time. He's getting better at what he does with the records, and he's starting to sell more records as well. His whole last album was crazy! I don't know if it's those beats, but he just keeps improving. He's a hot MC."

Blistering Ballistics
"The broads, the cards, the half moons, the stars/ I'm like Jeff Fort, the way I get behind bars/ Burn CDs with no regards for the stars/ Come to the crib with conflict diamonds and they ours/ Back in '94 they called me Chi-town's Nas/ Now them n---as know I'm one of Chi-town's gods/ We eating Joe, you still talking no carbs/ A conscious n---a with mack like Steve Jobs." ("Southside")

Hot Streak

  • AlbumsFinding Forever (due July 31)
  • Selected Mixtapes Tracks from Kanye West's Can't Tell Me Nothing
  • Singles "The People"
  • Street Bangers "The Game"
  • Key Guest Appearances Pitbull's "Sticky Icky," Joss Stone's "Tell Me What We're Gonna Do Now"
  • Business Ventures Launching Soji hat line
  • Tours TBD, but expect him to pop up with Kanye this fall.
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"I Demand a Recount!"

hmmm

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http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=news&id=1565321&vid=164213" title="http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=news&id=1565321&vid=164213">"I Demand a Recount!"

hmmm

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I agree with the guy that said "If you guys are gonna put Jim Jones on this list over Nas than you guys dont know nothing about rap"

I agree....they dont know anything about rap....

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"I Demand a Recount!"

hmmm

Orlando_Magic

What the hell. Sway was all "if u went to cities asking kidswho they liked more: jones or nas, they would say jones"

Since when are kids the only hip-hop listeners, and since when do they decide whos hottest :|?

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=news&id=1565321&vid=164213" title="http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=news&id=1565321&vid=164213">"I Demand a Recount!"

hmmm

elpooz

What the hell. Sway was all "if u went to cities asking kidswho they liked more: jones or nas, they would say jones"

Since when are kids the only hip-hop listeners, and since when do they decide whos hottest :|?

well hes right....and by kids i think hes talking about people under 21 years old.....not like 12 year old children....

And i changed my entire mind on this.....I actaully think its insulting to Common to have him on that list....no way in hell he should be on a list that has Jim Jones on it....NVM only one spot better...

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:lol: Common is on some Mrs. Cleo **** in that pic.
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[QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=news&id=1565321&vid=164213" title="http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=news&id=1565321&vid=164213">"I Demand a Recount!"

hmmm

_MURS_

What the hell. Sway was all "if u went to cities asking kidswho they liked more: jones or nas, they would say jones"

Since when are kids the only hip-hop listeners, and since when do they decide whos hottest :|?

well hes right....and by kids i think hes talking about people under 21 years old.....not like 12 year old children....

And i changed my entire mind on this.....I actaully think its insulting to Common to have him on that list....no way in hell he should be on a list that has Jim Jones on it....NVM only one spot better...

Exactly. 98.9% of kids listening to rap today would put Jim Jones over Nas,so I don't think its going too far calling him a hot artist. Like Sway said,it doesn't mean he's better, just more relevant in to most listeners.

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Exactly. 98.9% of kids listening to rap today would put Jim Jones over Nas,so I don't think its going too far calling him a hot artist. Like Sway said,it doesn't mean he's better, just more relevant in to most listeners.

Black-Demon
but more listeners bought Nas' last album then Jim Jones' last album...If a Nas album dropped on the same day as a Jim Jones album, Nas would easily outsell Jones. Rappers like Jim Jones get one hot single and won't have another hit like that ever again. D4L was hot when Laffy Taffy dropped, but nobody is checking for them now. DFB too, look at Mims too. Dude sold 1 million ringtones, and like 200,000 albums. ONE hot single isn't enough to be ****fied as a "hot" rapper imo.
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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

Exactly. 98.9% of kids listening to rap today would put Jim Jones over Nas,so I don't think its going too far calling him a hot artist. Like Sway said,it doesn't mean he's better, just more relevant in to most listeners.

fat_rob

but more listeners bought Nas' last album then Jim Jones' last album...If a Nas album dropped on the same day as a Jim Jones album, Nas would easily outsell Jones. Rappers like Jim Jones get one hot single and won't have another hit like that ever again. D4L was hot when Laffy Taffy dropped, but nobody is checking for them now. DFB too, look at Mims too. Dude sold 1 million ringtones, and like 200,000 albums. ONE hot single isn't enough to be ****fied as a "hot" rapper imo.

I see where you are coming from,but sales isn't the only requirement of being a "hot" rapper nowadays. Nas struggled to get any of his singles from HHID to even get in the top 5 of BET/MTV countdowns while it was no problem for Jones to have his song take the #1 position. Plus it was all over the radio,something you can't say the same for Nas's jams.

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

Exactly. 98.9% of kids listening to rap today would put Jim Jones over Nas,so I don't think its going too far calling him a hot artist. Like Sway said,it doesn't mean he's better, just more relevant in to most listeners.

Black-Demon

but more listeners bought Nas' last album then Jim Jones' last album...If a Nas album dropped on the same day as a Jim Jones album, Nas would easily outsell Jones. Rappers like Jim Jones get one hot single and won't have another hit like that ever again. D4L was hot when Laffy Taffy dropped, but nobody is checking for them now. DFB too, look at Mims too. Dude sold 1 million ringtones, and like 200,000 albums. ONE hot single isn't enough to be ****fied as a "hot" rapper imo.

I see where you are coming from,but sales isn't the only requirement of being a "hot" rapper nowadays. Nas struggled to get any of his singles from HHID to even get in the top 5 of BET/MTV countdowns while it was no problem for Jones to have his song take the #1 position. Plus it was all over the radio,something you can't say the same for Nas's jams.

But how much of that was a "hot" factor or the fact that Nas picked a horrible single...if Nas chose "Black Republicans" over his other two, I'd put money down on that track being HUGE...Jay and Nas together...everyone was hyped about that, hip-hop heads and mainstream fans. Jones got a good single, but he's not hot. Wayne is hot, T.I. is hot, Cham, 50, Kanye, Jeezy, and Jay, these guys are hot atm. Jim Jones is a bum who got a nice single. People don't check for Jim Jones albums, he only had one song that people even checked, he's in the same boat as The Shop Boys, Mims, D4L, ect. It's the song, not the rapper that people are checking for. With Nas, people are not checking for the song, but for the rapper. That imo is the definition of hot, that people check for your ish, not the "hot" single you have. Nahmean?
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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

Exactly. 98.9% of kids listening to rap today would put Jim Jones over Nas,so I don't think its going too far calling him a hot artist. Like Sway said,it doesn't mean he's better, just more relevant in to most listeners.

fat_rob

but more listeners bought Nas' last album then Jim Jones' last album...If a Nas album dropped on the same day as a Jim Jones album, Nas would easily outsell Jones. Rappers like Jim Jones get one hot single and won't have another hit like that ever again. D4L was hot when Laffy Taffy dropped, but nobody is checking for them now. DFB too, look at Mims too. Dude sold 1 million ringtones, and like 200,000 albums. ONE hot single isn't enough to be ****fied as a "hot" rapper imo.

I see where you are coming from,but sales isn't the only requirement of being a "hot" rapper nowadays. Nas struggled to get any of his singles from HHID to even get in the top 5 of BET/MTV countdowns while it was no problem for Jones to have his song take the #1 position. Plus it was all over the radio,something you can't say the same for Nas's jams.

But how much of that was a "hot" factor or the fact that Nas picked a horrible single...if Nas chose "Black Republicans" over his other two, I'd put money down on that track being HUGE...Jay and Nas together...everyone was hyped about that, hip-hop heads and mainstream fans. Jones got a good single, but he's not hot. Wayne is hot, T.I. is hot, Cham, 50, Kanye, Jeezy, and Jay, these guys are hot atm. Jim Jones is a bum who got a nice single. People don't check for Jim Jones albums, he only had one song that people even checked, he's in the same boat as The Shop Boys, Mims, D4L, ect. It's the song, not the rapper that people are checking for. With Nas, people are not checking for the song, but for the rapper. That imo is the definition of hot, that people check for your ish, not the "hot" single you have. Nahmean?

LMAO:lol:

Yeah,I see what you're talking about. One hit wonders=/=hot

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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

Exactly. 98.9% of kids listening to rap today would put Jim Jones over Nas,so I don't think its going too far calling him a hot artist. Like Sway said,it doesn't mean he's better, just more relevant in to most listeners.

fat_rob

but more listeners bought Nas' last album then Jim Jones' last album...If a Nas album dropped on the same day as a Jim Jones album, Nas would easily outsell Jones. Rappers like Jim Jones get one hot single and won't have another hit like that ever again. D4L was hot when Laffy Taffy dropped, but nobody is checking for them now. DFB too, look at Mims too. Dude sold 1 million ringtones, and like 200,000 albums. ONE hot single isn't enough to be ****fied as a "hot" rapper imo.

I see where you are coming from,but sales isn't the only requirement of being a "hot" rapper nowadays. Nas struggled to get any of his singles from HHID to even get in the top 5 of BET/MTV countdowns while it was no problem for Jones to have his song take the #1 position. Plus it was all over the radio,something you can't say the same for Nas's jams.

But how much of that was a "hot" factor or the fact that Nas picked a horrible single...if Nas chose "Black Republicans" over his other two, I'd put money down on that track being HUGE...Jay and Nas together...everyone was hyped about that, hip-hop heads and mainstream fans. Jones got a good single, but he's not hot. Wayne is hot, T.I. is hot, Cham, 50, Kanye, Jeezy, and Jay, these guys are hot atm. Jim Jones is a bum who got a nice single. People don't check for Jim Jones albums, he only had one song that people even checked, he's in the same boat as The Shop Boys, Mims, D4L, ect. It's the song, not the rapper that people are checking for. With Nas, people are not checking for the song, but for the rapper. That imo is the definition of hot, that people check for your ish, not the "hot" single you have. Nahmean?

rob = that dude.

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rob = that dude.elpooz

It's about time you realize that....

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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

rob = that dude.HighPowered94

It's about time you realize that....

Ok this is OT...but are u seriously a rainbow man? im curious...your always saying some gay ish :|

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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

rob = that dude.elpooz

It's about time you realize that....

Ok this is OT...but are u seriously a rainbow man? im curious...your always saying some gay ish :|

nah, he just likes men....
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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

rob = that dude.elpooz

It's about time you realize that....

Ok this is OT...but are u seriously a rainbow man? im curious...your always saying some gay ish :|

Yes.
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[QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

rob = that dude.HighPowered94

It's about time you realize that....

Ok this is OT...but are u seriously a rainbow man? im curious...your always saying some gay ish :|

Yes.

I see.

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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

rob = that dude.elpooz

It's about time you realize that....

Ok this is OT...but are u seriously a rainbow man? im curious...your always saying some gay ish :|

Yes.

I see.

It seems that you want me to post Pac's magical picture again....
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[QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

rob = that dude.HighPowered94

It's about time you realize that....

Ok this is OT...but are u seriously a rainbow man? im curious...your always saying some gay ish :|

Yes.

I see.

It seems that you want me to post Pac's magical picture again....

:cry::o