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#51 IamHush
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You know how Nas is a better artist lyrically then Kanye, but College Dropout destroys most of Nas' discog...same thing with Charles and Lu...
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You know how Nas is a better artist lyrically then Kanye, but College Dropout destroys most of Nas' discog...same thing with Charles and Lu...IamHush
Ahh I feel you.. I dont agree but I understand where you're coming from
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#53 KamMoye
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Damn, Colt took an L in this thread...

Some things are better left unsaid, but if you're gonna say some ridiculous, out-of-left-field ish, you better have a lot of proof and examples to back up your point, cause otherwise you just sound like a raving lunatic rather than someone who put a lot of methodical thought and research into his POV.

Plus, the title of the thread is rappers you don't understand why people like. Are you seriously saying you can't understand why people like Lupe, Mobb Deep, Dr. Dre, etc? Nah son

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#54 Toriko42
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You know how Nas is a better artist lyrically then Kanye, but College Dropout destroys most of Nas' discog...same thing with Charles and Lu...IamHush
If any album qualifies as a modern classic, it's College Dropout
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#55 elpooz
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You know how Nas is a better artist lyrically then Kanye, but College Dropout destroys most of Nas' discog...same thing with Charles and Lu...IamHush

That isn't saying much though, seeing as Nas has dropped twice as many albums than Kanye... When Kanye drops as many as Nas, I can ensure you that Nas will have a much stronger collection...

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#56 Toriko42
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That isn't saying much though, seeing as Nas has dropped twice as many albums than Kanye... When Kanye drops as many as Nas, I can ensure you that Nas will have a much stronger collection...

elpooz

If you're down for direct comparisons

Nas and Kanye's first album: Illmatic vs. College Dropout             

Illmatic wins


Second albums: It Was Written vs. Late Registration            

Sue me, but I like Late Registration a tad bit better


Third Albums: I am... vs. Graduation         

I Am... wins


Fourth Albums: Nastradamnus vs. 808's and Heartbreak     

Both made lame albums the fourth time around but 808's was better

I give it a tie thus far as far as chronology goes but it's going to be hard for Kanye to match Nas on albums like Stillmatic, Street's Disciple, and Hip Hop Is Dead...

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Even if you take Kanye's first 4 albums and pit them against Nas' first four...CD is still better than all of them except Illmatic...and Kanye's discog is not completely destroyed by Nas'...
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#58 Colt45fool
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Damn, Colt took an L in this thread...

Some things are better left unsaid, but if you're gonna say some ridiculous, out-of-left-field ish, you better have a lot of proof and examples to back up your point, cause otherwise you just sound like a raving lunatic rather than someone who put a lot of methodical thought and research into his POV.

Plus, the title of the thread is rappers you don't understand why people like. Are you seriously saying you can't understand why people like Lupe, Mobb Deep, Dr. Dre, etc? Nah son

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I think they're all insanely overrated. I don't dislike any of them.
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#60 BLBxLakers24
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How are you gonna say Lupe is corny than turn around and have a Charles Hamilton avatar and sig? :|-PuLse
WORD! CH most corny award. Dude is a square, and no one in NY likes him.
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#61 KamMoye
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But do you like them? Even a little?

Or better yet, can you see why other people like them?

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#62 BLBxLakers24
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Nas and Kanye should not be in the same discussion. Kanye has one classic album or something close to it.
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#63 Colt45fool
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But do you like them? Even a little?

Or better yet, can you see why other people like them?

KamMoye

Lupe's average imo...Mobb is okay, but it's not my cup of tea....Dre's dope, but not as dope as people say.

I can see why people like them....just not so much Lupe. Calling him anything more than average/above average is puzzling to me.

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#64 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="KamMoye"]

But do you like them? Even a little?

Or better yet, can you see why other people like them?

Colt45fool

Lupe's average imo...Mobb is okay, but it's not my cup of tea....Dre's dope, but not as dope as people say.

I can see why people like them....just not so much Lupe. Calling him anything more than average/above average is puzzling to me.

Would you not agree that Dr. Dre is an amazing producer? His beats are instantly recognizable and he was instrumental in creating the west coast sound.

Not to mention he has skills on the mic and has been behind some of the greatest artists in Hip Hop.
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#65 Colt45fool
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="KamMoye"]

But do you like them? Even a little?

Or better yet, can you see why other people like them?

Toriko42

Lupe's average imo...Mobb is okay, but it's not my cup of tea....Dre's dope, but not as dope as people say.

I can see why people like them....just not so much Lupe. Calling him anything more than average/above average is puzzling to me.

Would you not agree that Dr. Dre is an amazing producer? His beats are instantly recognizable and he was instrumental in creating the west coast sound.

Not to mention he has skills on the mic and has been behind some of the greatest artists in Hip Hop.

Did I not just say Dre is dope?
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#67 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="KamMoye"]

But do you like them? Even a little?

Or better yet, can you see why other people like them?

Colt45fool

Lupe's average imo...Mobb is okay, but it's not my cup of tea....Dre's dope, but not as dope as people say.

I can see why people like them....just not so much Lupe. Calling him anything more than average/above average is puzzling to me.

Would you not agree that Dr. Dre is an amazing producer? His beats are instantly recognizable and he was instrumental in creating the west coast sound.

Not to mention he has skills on the mic and has been behind some of the greatest artists in Hip Hop.

Did I not just say Dre is dope?

YEAH BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY HE WAS LEGENDARY AND AMAZING

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#68 KamMoye
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I fully agree with you on Dre. Like, vehemently. I went back and listened to The Chronic after people kept hyping up the production. It's good, but I just don't feel it like that. Obviously dope, but you know what I mean? Not transcendent dope.

Lupe, nah, don't really agree. For one, it's unequivocal that dude puts a lot of time in his rhymes, so if you don't put a lot of time in listening to him, you can't really comment on him. I'm not going to lie -- I never really got into him like that. I like him, but I never loved him. But I am willing to admit that there is still a large part of the artist of Lupe Fiasco that I have yet to explore, and for that, I give him and his fans credit, because his rhymes are definitely witty and they definitely have a lot of different meanings that I've just been too lazy to explore as of now. But even on a surface level he's decidedly above-average.

Mobb Deep? Man, I hated Mobb for a while. Orlando probably remembers when I used to hate on them. But now? The Infamous is dope. And Hell on Earth is good. That's all I really feel, though. They're just good. Nothing spectacular; can easily get lost in the shuffle. 

Overrated? Sure. "Can't junderstand why people like"? Absolutely not.

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Is that a picture of you? And did you just take it for that response? Pretty creative. Looks like your about to turn super saiyan.
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Is that a picture of you? And did you just take it for that response? Pretty creative. Looks like your about to turn super saiyan.BLBxLakers24
Hah no, I'm not asian. I'm from India
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I fully agree with you on Dre. Like, vehemently. I went back and listened to The Chronic after people kept hyping up the production. It's good, but I just don't feel it like that. Obviously dope, but you know what I mean? Not transcendent dope.

KamMoye
I'm a Dr. Dre fan minority, I think that 2001 is a better album. More heartfelt, less 'Eazy-E eat my anus' stuff.

Both are classics but I like 2001 a bit more. The production is unrivalled there.
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[QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"]Is that a picture of you? And did you just take it for that response? Pretty creative. Looks like your about to turn super saiyan.Toriko42
Hah no, I'm not asian. I'm from India

Lmao I know dude it was a joke.
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I fully agree with you on Dre. Like, vehemently. I went back and listened to The Chronic after people kept hyping up the production. It's good, but I just don't feel it like that. Obviously dope, but you know what I mean? Not transcendent dope.

Lupe, nah, don't really agree. For one, it's unequivocal that dude puts a lot of time in his rhymes, so if you don't put a lot of time in listening to him, you can't really comment on him. I'm not going to lie -- I never really got into him like that. I like him, but I never loved him. But I am willing to admit that there is still a large part of the artist of Lupe Fiasco that I have yet to explore, and for that, I give him and his fans credit, because his rhymes are definitely witty and they definitely have a lot of different meanings that I've just been too lazy to explore as of now. But even on a surface level he's decidedly above-average.

Mobb Deep? Man, I hated Mobb for a while. Orlando probably remembers when I used to hate on them. But now? The Infamous is dope. And Hell on Earth is good. That's all I really feel, though. They're just good. Nothing spectacular; can easily get lost in the shuffle. 

Overrated? Sure. "Can't junderstand why people like"? Absolutely not.

KamMoye

Maybe I need to listen to the Mobb Deep albums more, but I really wasn't feeling it...kind of bored me honestly.

I still cop Lupe albums...there's always something good on them, and Lupe knows how to put out a listenable record [I'd much rather listen to Lupe than someone corny like Blu] I just don't know why everyone thinks he's SO GOOD...with the way he's hyped up youd think he was a top 10 emcee, with 2 classics.

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#75 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"]Is that a picture of you? And did you just take it for that response? Pretty creative. Looks like your about to turn super saiyan.BLBxLakers24
Hah no, I'm not asian. I'm from India

Lmao I know dude it was a joke.



Hella
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#76 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="KamMoye"]

I fully agree with you on Dre. Like, vehemently. I went back and listened to The Chronic after people kept hyping up the production. It's good, but I just don't feel it like that. Obviously dope, but you know what I mean? Not transcendent dope.

Lupe, nah, don't really agree. For one, it's unequivocal that dude puts a lot of time in his rhymes, so if you don't put a lot of time in listening to him, you can't really comment on him. I'm not going to lie -- I never really got into him like that. I like him, but I never loved him. But I am willing to admit that there is still a large part of the artist of Lupe Fiasco that I have yet to explore, and for that, I give him and his fans credit, because his rhymes are definitely witty and they definitely have a lot of different meanings that I've just been too lazy to explore as of now. But even on a surface level he's decidedly above-average.

Mobb Deep? Man, I hated Mobb for a while. Orlando probably remembers when I used to hate on them. But now? The Infamous is dope. And Hell on Earth is good. That's all I really feel, though. They're just good. Nothing spectacular; can easily get lost in the shuffle. 

Overrated? Sure. "Can't junderstand why people like"? Absolutely not.

Colt45fool

Maybe I need to listen to the Mobb Deep albums more, but I really wasn't feeling it...kind of bored me honestly.

You're not alone, Infamous is boring to me and I don't think they are that great. They just don't stand out.
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Hes a top 10 lyricist.. Emphasis on "LYRICIST".. Theres many songs that prove this..
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Hes a top 10 lyricist.. Emphasis on "LYRICIST".. Theres many songs that prove this..damelokidd124
According to who? a few ppl on this board. There is no one in NY who likes him, no one in the streets who respect him.

Nas, Jay, Jada, Royca, Wayne, Em, Papoose, Fabolous, Common, Mos Def, Talib

Thats 11 quickest ppl I could think of. All better lyricist then him.

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[QUOTE="damelokidd124"]Hes a top 10 lyricist.. Emphasis on "LYRICIST".. Theres many songs that prove this..BLBxLakers24

According to who? a few ppl on this board. There is no one in NY who likes him, no one in the streets who respect him.

Nas, Jay, Jada, Royca, Wayne, Em, Papoose, Fabolous, Common, Mos Def, Talib

Thats 11 quickest ppl I could think of. All better lyricist then him.

We talking about Lupe or CH?
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#85 BLBxLakers24
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[QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"]

[QUOTE="damelokidd124"]Hes a top 10 lyricist.. Emphasis on "LYRICIST".. Theres many songs that prove this..damelokidd124

According to who? a few ppl on this board. There is no one in NY who likes him, no one in the streets who respect him.

Nas, Jay, Jada, Royca, Wayne, Em, Papoose, Fabolous, Common, Mos Def, Talib

Thats 11 quickest ppl I could think of. All better lyricist then him.

We talking about Lupe or CH?

Im talking about CH. Lupe is better then CH to.
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#86 damelokidd124
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[QUOTE="damelokidd124"][QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"]

[QUOTE="damelokidd124"]Hes a top 10 lyricist.. Emphasis on "LYRICIST".. Theres many songs that prove this..BLBxLakers24

According to who? a few ppl on this board. There is no one in NY who likes him, no one in the streets who respect him.

Nas, Jay, Jada, Royca, Wayne, Em, Papoose, Fabolous, Common, Mos Def, Talib

Thats 11 quickest ppl I could think of. All better lyricist then him.

We talking about Lupe or CH?

Im talking about CH. Lupe is better then CH to.

I wasnt talking about CH but since we speakin on CH, hes a good lyricist. The only person on ya list who I think hes better than is Papoose. You cant say NY doesnt love him because I know some CH stans who get ECSTATIC when I speak on him.. "Whats he like? Did he really play piano in the auditorium? How many people in the Brooklyn Girls video do you know?".. It gets crazy.. Hes a weirdo, no doubt but he can rap tho..
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The Infamous and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx are two albums that I can remember not really liking on the first listen... and then down the line falling in love with. But this was waaaaay back in the day when I was just getting into hardcore rap albums like that, and the whole styIe was pretty new to me. For someone like Colt who is already a fan of OB4CL, I do think it's kind of odd how you can't get into the Infamous. I dunno what you guys mean by its boring because the storytelling on the Infamous is amazing...

Temperature's Rising (prod. Q-Tip & Havoc)

come on...

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The Infamous and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx are two albums that I can remember not really liking on the first listen... and then down the line falling in love with. But this was waaaaay back in the way when I was just getting into hardcore rap albums like that, and the whole styIe was pretty new to me. For someone like Colt who is already a fan of OB4CL, I do think it's kind of odd how you can't get into the Infamous. I dunno what you guys mean by its boring because the storytelling on the Infamous is amazing...

Temperature's Rising (prod. Q-Tip & Havoc)

come on...

Orlando_Magic
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx is one of my favorite albums, I just can't get into Infamous no matter how hard I try
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[QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"][QUOTE="damelokidd124"][QUOTE="BLBxLakers24"]

[QUOTE="damelokidd124"]Hes a top 10 lyricist.. Emphasis on "LYRICIST".. Theres many songs that prove this..damelokidd124

According to who? a few ppl on this board. There is no one in NY who likes him, no one in the streets who respect him.

Nas, Jay, Jada, Royca, Wayne, Em, Papoose, Fabolous, Common, Mos Def, Talib

Thats 11 quickest ppl I could think of. All better lyricist then him.

We talking about Lupe or CH?

Im talking about CH. Lupe is better then CH to.

I wasnt talking about CH but since we speakin on CH, hes a good lyricist. The only person on ya list who I think hes better than is Papoose. You cant say NY doesnt love him because I know some CH stans who get ECSTATIC when I speak on him.. "Whats he like? Did he really play piano in the auditorium? How many people in the Brooklyn Girls video do you know?".. It gets crazy.. Hes a weirdo, no doubt but he can rap tho..

To me Papoose is one of the most lyrical.
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#91 damelokidd124
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To me Papoose is one of the most lyrical.BLBxLakers24

Papoose punchlines are so weak.. "I put a dot on ya ass like W W W.".. Yo Rob, whats some of the other ones?

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#92 elpooz
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:lol: Papoose sucks. I used to like him... but damn, over time you realize how crappy his lyrics/punchlines are and his premature, soft ass voice just gets wack. The only track I actually like him from now is this , which I will admit is still one of my favorite songs of the 2005-2006 period. Besides that though, his music is just boring and wack as hell to me now.

Even THAT can showcase how wack his bars are... "Practice makes perfect, so when working I don't relax. I practice, so i'm perfect and that's a fact".. "you lost like a person without a mac". :lol: for real? Lyrical top ten? Yeah right :lol:... 

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The Infamous and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx are two albums that I can remember not really liking on the first listen... and then down the line falling in love with. But this was waaaaay back in the day when I was just getting into hardcore rap albums like that, and the whole styIe was pretty new to me. For someone like Colt who is already a fan of OB4CL, I do think it's kind of odd how you can't get into the Infamous. I dunno what you guys mean by its boring because the storytelling on the Infamous is amazing...

Temperature's Rising (prod. Q-Tip & Havoc)

come on...

Orlando_Magic
word up, I remember The Infamous was the first album nominated in the classic album days several years ago by C5. He really emphasised on the storytelling and Havoc's insane beats.
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:lol: Papoose sucks. I used to like him... but damn, over time you realize how crappy his lyrics/punchlines are and his premature, soft ass voice just gets wack. The only track I actually like him from now is this , which I will admit is still one of my favorite songs of the 2005-2006 period. Besides that though, his music is just boring and wack as hell to me now.

Even THAT can showcase how wack his bars are... "Practice makes perfect, so when working I don't relax. I practice, so i'm perfect and that's a fact".. "you lost like a person without a mac". :lol: for real? Lyrical top ten? Yeah right :lol:... 

elpooz

Pap's worst>>>>>>>>>>Weezy's worst

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Go download a Beast From The East then comeback. Papoose is not weak.
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"who want beef? act loud and bleed/
I stop **** from wantin beef like the mad cow disease/

I'll put ya baby daddy in a body bag, when i squeeze and let the wop clap/
I'll bag dad(Baghdad) like Iraq/

I dont know what u actin like u heartless for/
when u know u a "target" like the department store/

dude has alright concepts for his punchlines...but his execution is just...awful...

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#98 elpooz
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:lol: ^.. That was BAD.
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#99 fat_rob
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Best Papoose lyrics:

I GOT STATEN ISLAND ON MY PINKY QUEENS ON MY THUMB DUDE
THE BRONX ON MY MIDDLE FINGER SCREAMIN **** YOU
ROCK ICE IN MANHATTAN SO THERE'S THE RING FINGER
YOU KNOW I HAD TO KEEP BROOKLYN ON THE TRIGGER FINGER
 Five boroughs of death, you don't understand
I got New York City in the palm of my hand
Now I could make a tight fist and let it crumble ridiculous
Or I could smack the world with a New York Lyricist

Easily his best bars...when I first heard that I had to rewind it like 5 times

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#100 elpooz
Member since 2005 • 5883 Posts

Best Papoose lyrics:

I GOT STATEN ISLAND ON MY PINKY QUEENS ON MY THUMB DUDE
THE BRONX ON MY MIDDLE FINGER SCREAMIN **** YOU
ROCK ICE IN MANHATTAN SO THERE'S THE RING FINGER
YOU KNOW I HAD TO KEEP BROOKLYN ON THE TRIGGER FINGER
Five boroughs of death, you don't understand
I got New York City in the palm of my hand
Now I could make a tight fist and let it crumble ridiculous
Or I could smack the world with a New York Lyricist

Easily his best bars...when I first heard that I had to rewind it like 5 times

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Ok, that was dope. Completely forgot that was him. He was the only reason I listened to that Touch It remix so many times back in the day...